10 Unanswered Questions - the Shining : Unanswered Questions Episode 4

[@Deadpool_64]

I think the hotel "absorbed" Jack, which is why he's in the original picture.

[@ZakRios333]

He was frozen in time🥶

[@UnusedxName]

Kubrick did fake the moon landing, but he's such a perfectionist that he shot it on site.

[@dillonyoung5502]

This comment is amazing.

[@tenimeartstudios]

My favorite response.

[@winstonsmiththx1138]

Not likely he didn't fly and I'm not sure how he would have driven

[@-Siculus-Hort-]

YES. perfect.

[@-Siculus-Hort-]

@@winstonsmiththx1138 dimensional skip...

[@anubusx]

I have a theory: The reason why one of Grady's daughter tried to burn the overlook down was because she had the shining and saw the evil of it.

[@sc2999]

Maybe the reincarnation is meant for the soul of the guests to have shining children and bringing them to it

[@nrqed]

The Jazz King I thought this was very clear.

[@thumperkc]

Nice! I didn’t think of that.

[@robertrodriguez787]

That's what I was thinking too

[@alexknox1596]

Yeah the hotel is a character as well! But I don't think that's the main underlying theme, not shure what exactly is but,

[@simonphelon7221]

I just read the blood as being a visualisation of a flood of evil influence. Danny saw it early as he was most sensitive and could see everything but only as the evil starts feeding off Jack and gets stronger then Wendy can start to see it. The more Jack becomes a victim of the hotel, the more the evil can start to bleed into reality. Jack can't get out of the maze because the hotel has claimed him, the others got away but its time for jack to become part of the hotel, forever and also always in the past.

[@phantom_troubadour]

2 Grady’s: The story Ullman tells took place in 1970, the person named Delbert that Jack meets is Charles Grady. It’s just that Grady’s soul has been swallowed up by the hotel and now he is playing a part in a party that never ends. This is confirmed in Doctor Sleep when we meet Jack calling himself Lloyd.

[@thejokerl1ves]

I had never heard of the other theories on the photograph. I always assumed that now that he was dead, he was part of the hotel, and that's why his face is on the photo, front and center because he's the newest ghost.

[@brothadarrell8315]

Stanley Kubrick was so ahead of his time that people had to let years go by to see that he was the best

[@JohnwayneNOgacy]

I’ve watched the shining and conspiracies about it over a hundred times but I never knew about an alternate ending until I seen this video. Wow

[@greyedgamer]

I'm sure I've seen the pulled ending online somewhere...

[@matthewcoger6274]

I always thought that the Hotel wanted Jack and Danny because Danny got his shine from his father Jack.

[@BennyLlama39]

Strange... usually, the blood gets off at the *fifth* floor. 🤔 EDIT: Crazy theory about the Jack-in-the-maze bit. What if-- like someone shoveling snow-- he was exhausted to the point of a heart attack and just dropped dead?

[@raptorbadger3131]

I feel like all the metaphors and symbolism are too far reaching. The hotel is a conduit for psychic energy and it draws malevolence towards it. That's pretty straightforward and still offers mystery.

[@anubusx]

Agreed the hotel was built on a cursed indian burial ground. Ghosts!!!!!!

[@Scolecite]

@@anubusx no ghosts are in this film. There are visions though.

[@thelakeshorestrangler2323]

The Stanley Kubrick archive has thousands of publicly available documents that would beg to differ.

[@montewhaley1865]

Did Jack hurt Danny five months ago (as Wendy confided to lady Dr.), or "three goddam years ago!" as Jack tells Lloyd...?

[@phantom_troubadour]

The 5 months are referring to Jack’s abstinence from alcohol. But pay attention, bec when Jack says he hasn’t drank in 5 months, we are already a month in after Wendy tells the story. So, Jack has been sober for 6 months, not 5. As if time slipped by him before he even noticed.

[@thenazirite3828]

@@phantom_troubadour I caught that too! But Wendy told the Doctor that he hasn’t had a drop since he hurt Danny, which was 3 years ago.

[@phantom_troubadour]

@@thenazirite3828 Jack also says 3 years ago during his chat with Lloyd, but he says 5 months on the wagon and clearly time has gone by. Or has it? 😱

[@twelveandfat]

Although the specificity of the "three years" is a bit weird, I figured it was an exaggeration. Like "you're still hung up on that? It happened years ago!"

[@JamiJR]

I don't know how anyone could possibly think the ghosts aren't real. Even though King hated this adaptation, it's still based on a King novel where the ghosts are real. So the ghosts are real. The only real mystery is why Kubrick went with the trope of killing off the one black character when in the novel Halloran lives.

[@JamiJR]

@Jax Teller Because in the book he lived. So yes, it's a mystery.

[@CrucialParodies]

@@JamiJR In the book, Jack uses a croquet mallet on his possessed rampage. In the movie, Jack uses an axe after he’s fully insane. This was obviously done to make Jack much more menacing. So how on earth would Hallorann survive an axe wound? It makes total sense that he died, also his death wasn’t in vain as his snowcat was the only way for Danny and Wendy to escape. Is that enough for you?

[@kmaru80]

It sounds like @jaxteller checks under bed at night for SJWs

[@kmaru80]

One of the early symptoms of hypothermia is exhaustion. It's not hard to imagine that as the adrenaline (and possible spiritual help) begins to pass, that Jack would sit down "for a quick rest" that turns into a permanent sleep

[@tenimeartstudios]

I'm with you. Everything I read into it is what is on screen. Danny is psychic, the hotel is haunted. End of story (except where Doctor Sleep totally continues the story, haha). So many people use the excuse "well, Kubrick didn't believe in ghosts, so he would never make a movie about them!" Do you think Steven Spielberg believes in dinosaur clones (that one may come back to bite me, haha)? Do you think Ridley Scott believes in aliens? Do you think Michael Bay believes in alien robots who can turn into cars? Do you think Wes Craven believed in a boogeyman who can kill you in your nightmares? I could probably keep going for hundreds or thousands of examples. Good lord, I hate that stupid reasoning...

[@martinsorenson1055]

Your stripping everything down to the basics is spot on. End of story? Sort of. The thing is, Kubrick might not have believed in ghosts, but he believed in storytelling. He did state that there were ghosts in the hotel. However, he has been known to be kind of a trickster. He has deliberately made things vague or confusing in order to create a sense of unease in the audience. If I am not mistaken, early on in the editing, things were much clearer, but he slowly took out details and dropped others in so as to confuse the audience, such as the ages of the girls, whether or not they were twins and the Delbert and Charles Grady issue.

[@devonstart2758]

Kubrick was an artist and most of his movies should be viewed that way.

[@bruffx9736]

I've watched several of your videos now. Whereas I don't agree with all of your answers I am happy that somebody's trying to answer some of the questions I've always had. You have earned my subscribe. I just hit the button. 👍

[@peterdanior4538]

I also watch Shining as a straight ghost movie. A malevolent entity is in Room 237 that is trapping souls that died there & is focusing on Jack turning him into a psycho. And Jack in the picture at the end is Jack's soul getting trapped in the hotel as well.

[@movietimelines]

that’s how i tend to watch it. although, i love reading the alternate theories and stuff. i think they’re fascinating, even though some are reaching.

[@peterdanior4538]

Movie Timelines Just for fun I like to think what if different movies were being “Cabin in the Woods”ed. For example, the Organization is drugging Jack to see how long it takes him to go psycho, not as a “prevent the end of the world” scenario, but as an experiment performed by the Chem Dept.

[@tennozeorymer]

Great video! I actually studied this movie for a whole semester in college (Film Analysis class). Learned a heck of a lot about the flick. It's worth noting that the number 237 was also the code for launching the nuclear strike in "Dr. Strangelove." In class we discussed the room number change, and it was theorized that the change wasn't just because of the hotel management's request. If I remember right, the path from 2 to 3 to 7 is the path to madness. According to what? I wish I could remember!!! Or could find my notes from that class. It was decades ago...

[@jazcc]

I’m really loving this part of your series experiment. I’m such a horror nerd that I only wish I had some artistic talent. I would be creating creatures instead of sitting on a damm desk. In regards to this movie. My husband thinks horror movies are comedic but this movie is one of his few favorites horror movies that he can watch over and over again and I can happily sit next to him and watch.

[@PajamasandMore]

Another fantastic video. You made my Friday!! I love this movie so much, and I agree-I subscribe to the theory that the ghosts were real.

[@DeesNerds]

I love this movie even without all the imagery and symbolic interpretations. That’s all icing on the cake. 👍

[@dynamicvoltage9765]

Shining fans be like "that's not blood coming out of the elevator, now let me make a 3 hour youtube video telling you what it is"

[@deadseamonster]

It's also possible that Grady's full name may have been Charles Delbert Grady. Maybe after his father, so he always went by Delbert. But Ullman called him Charles because he didn't know Grady, he had just been told his name.

[@st11ches]

I love watching reviews and interpretations on this film. I like to add many of the layers together.

[@Insane-Howl-Cowl]

I like the ghost angle, as it's easier to say "that's not real because of ghosts" and I can enjoy it more. If it's all in their head, then it's definitely darker, but it makes it just depressing and potentially real.

[@kiss4jam]

I love this series, you explain everything so well and it's interesting hearing all the possible theories.

[@CanItAlready]

My unanswered question: Am I the only one who was kinda "meh" about Doctor Sleep?

[@AmyStackAmyEmily]

As far as the photograph, it shows that Jack was always the caretaker as Grady said.

[@NebelmondRecords]

The question of Room 237 and Dick Hallorann is actually answered in the novel. After that old Mrs Masseys body was brought away, one of the hotel's maiden was cleaning the said room and saw Masseys corpse in the bath tub. After she told Hallorann, he looked for it and was confronted by that spirit too. To be honest: i think NO one would enter such a room after such an event, if its avoidable. ;)

[@rayb1091]

Y'all need to buy them likes. This man have the best theories.

[@carolhowley7158]

Thank you for your work in putting this together. Kubrick's comments around the issue of how Jack got out of the food storage are in the context of the novel, not the film.

[@Skunz]

I’ve always looked at it this way. We don’t get to see Danny, Wendy and Jack together before Jack’s interview. So meaning that when Jack walked into the Overlook he immediately was taken over by the caretaker in the pic at the end of the movie. As the movie goes on you can see Jack even looking at himself strange in the mirrors. See Danny and Wendy see Jack how he looks to them. The spirits in the hotel and we as the viewer see Jack as he looks as the guy in the photo at the end. The spirit slowly takes over his mind to try and make Jack kill Danny so that Danny’s shine can stay within the Overlook Hotel.

[@sepultura7771]

That’s the theory I like the best also, that the picture was there all along just as it is, and it’s shown at the end, because it is the exact picture that really got his mind rolling in the beginning Kind of like capping it off perfectly full circle

[@LordBitememan]

Ghosts and symbolism are concomitant in the film. They are both literal ghosts and meant to represent the temptations into vice and madness that the characters experience. The final portrait in the end is a culmination of this. It is the hotel's triumph over Jack. He has fallen to the vice the hotel represents and is reborn as one of its denizens, a ghost of temptation into vice and self-destruction. It is, indeed, deterministic. Jack was always there because he was always fated to be there. It didn't matter when he cam because he was always a part of the hotel's plan.

[@AnonyMoose2012]

I like to watch this movie with an open mind and I get a different experience each time. I want to look at it as a ghost story tonight? I have that option. I want a metaphor for the blood that was shed for this land? I have that option. A different mindset makes this movie a completely different story. That being said, it’s one of, if not, my favorite movie.

[@jameswhitman7127]

Love these videos, especially for films like "The Shining" as they go so much deeper psychologically, philosophically, and spiritually. There are more questions to ask such as, "Did Jack hurt Danny five months ago or three years ago" or "were Grady's daughters are 8 and 10 or twins" as dialogue and visuals contradict. Not to mention, did Tony or Indian burial ground have a bigger part to play? There's even a scene mentioned in "Room 237" documentary that shows a chair missing in one shot of a scene and how Kubrick was so meticulous and seemingly intentional with everything. Did he do it on purpose, or was it just a coincidence? It's fun to speculate...as long as you don't go mad!

[@eattitt7732]

You should have more subs and views bro, out of all the reviewers/question-answerers, your vids are composed very nice, you have some nice answers to nice questions, I'm pretty confused, your channel should definitely have more subs, love your work, keep it coming, now if you excuse me, there's a lotta videos here I need to hit "like" on! :D

[@movietimelines]

thanks so much! i know it's been a long, slow, gradual process, but i'm pretty proud of the subscriber base here, and i'm glad you're a part of it!

[@eattitt7732]

@@movietimelines no probs, keep up the good work, and keep them beards as funky as possible! :D

[@deanyunghans1358]

Good channel. You earned a subscriber.

[@bryanalexander7571]

On the Grady question, have people considered that a guy named Delbert just prefers to go by his middle name when he isn't working?

[@fitzpatrickderek30]

Delbert backwards trebled. He was a musician.

[@movietimelines]

not a bad theory.

[@randomlibra]

This was my first thought. Delbert sounds like a good middle name.

[@barracudav.4483]

"Fun" fact since childhood I've attended family funerals only to learn, at the funeral, that the name of the departed was their middle name. My own mother went by her middle name since she was a little girl and in fact preferred it.

[@bryanalexander7571]

@@barracudav.4483 Yeah, I'm the son of "Kay", who's name is actually Ila Kay.

[@seryoea1800]

omg. ok listen carefully (and patiently cause my mother language is spanish) The shining's etimology points to the Beryllium, a peculiar mineral in many shapes, chemically talking, hexagonal shapes. Also acquamarine stones, watch the color of titles at the begining, (or should i say, actual very end, look again the animation, look its direction, and if you have the oficial cut, pay attention in your timeline when the title's the shining shot begins and ends) if you aren't familiarize with that color, this mineral is mostly useful to create mirrors, hyper fragil, and in some cases, indestructible. In the shining, the mirror is an absolute, everything adopts, literally, simbolicaly or psicologicllly the shape, laws or meanings of mirrors, indeed, there`s a particular one, the methaphor of the optics that Freud and jacqe lacan studies to create a lot of his concepts of the structure of the psique. Geometry and math also love's mirror forms , sync phenomena, or the sphere theory of the mirrors will xplain everything in methapors, allegorys, myths, as mirrorforms of one only big, cuestion. Who is the actual protagonist of the shining. i will answer, maybe wrong, its not about any those characters, remember that cinema is the mirror of the culture, and in some screens, the mirror of owrselves, or maybe, only the reflection of the very writter. but imposible to stablish who is the writter of this huge text of humanity. god? haha pointless to stay with one answer, the very point is to ask the right cuestion. PLUS: if you feel afraid of investigate or understand the phisics of mirrors, maybe shalley duvall can be helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4rOpYN7r5KSnZI

[@Argeaux2]

It's "taking a different tack" not tact. It's a nautical term for when you change where your sailing boat is heading.

[@patrickperalta59]

I love the Shinning and I live about 40 minutes from the Stanley Hotel that Stephin King stayed at and got the idea to write the book The Shinning.

[@autisticwriter5763]

1. I don't really think that Ullman is evil. Yeah, he hires Jack for the job and the alternate ending does leave for speculation, but i don't think he was influenced by the hotel. 2. I believe that much like Danny, Halloran sense the evil in the room. They both have the Shining, but with Halloran, he probably could have seen that lady, but maybe it also showed him something else as well. 3. Past: Charles Grady Present: Delbert Grady. I think in the present, Delbert Grady was hired as the previous winter caretaker. Obliviously, Charles wasn't present to influence Delbert to kill his family. Maybe it was Jack's past self that convinced him. It could have been Jack mixing up the names and everything, but i think that it also could be past ghosts at work here. 4. This is an example of something better explained in the book. I think they added some mentions of the book to appeal to King, but they left out the explaination in the movie to add to the madness of the hotel. Kind of like the woman in 237. I kind of like how it is left to mystery instead of explaining it to where it ruins the mystery. 5. This one has always been a mystery to me. One could take it as the river of blood of the native americans. Others can say it was innocent people or families that were murdered. Your guess is as good as mine. 6. I think this was a funny little nod to it. I never took that part of the film that seriously. Maybe they did consider faking the moon landing, but maybe in alternate history if they couldn't fly to the moon. I don't know, i didn't go that deep into the film. 7. I like this film and Blair Witch Project because you can make one argument or another with that. Some people think yes others think no. For me, i think that maybe something supernatural was at work. But, maybe Wendy didn't lock it tight as she thought she did. 8. Maybe Danny did let Jack out without knowing it. We don't know the full extent of the Shining's abilities. Maybe it the hotel that willed Jack out as well. 9. As for this one, i think that Jack just tired himself out trying to find Danny Also, the cold could have added to his tired state. Should have went on that walk with Wendy and Danny when you had the chance. 10. I think they did overlook...see what i did there. Anyways, i think they did overlook that picture since it was a big place. Sure, they probably would have had more than enough time to explore, but Jack was more focused on keeping up the matience of the Hotel and his writing than to notice the picture on the walls.

[@moreaboutmovies]

I love the it's all Danny theory.

[@sandraweilbrenner67]

Read the book , there was a costume party in the past

[@franktaylor7617]

Seen this movie several times and always enjoyed it but couldn't around the unanswered questions or missing information. Now watching these investigational videos. It's become more interesting just from a "I'm running out of things to be interested in on KZbin" stand point. So far the best theory is the Wendy theory. It explains much of this. There's also a consistent string of very subtle clues. Leading in that direction. Personally I find it the most plausible explanation. Check it out.

[@firerainchild]

I think Jack showed up in the picture after he died as to show us he is now a part of the hotel.

[@Applepoisoneer]

I always just assumed the river of blood and the photo were more symbolic than a literal event. The river of blood was, in my opinion, meant to be sort of a prophetic vision, or an omen. Whereas jack appearing in the photo was meant to represent him being assimilated into the Overlook.

[@astraeaellsworth5308]

I was glad to see your interpretation of the photo at the end. I never really believed that Jack was in that photo the whole time, and it never even occurred to me that Jack was a reincarnation of some guest. I assumed that the reason you see the photo in that moment is because it has just changed, when Jack died on the property. I had never seen the quote from Kubrick about reincarnation, But it was already kind of my assumption that Jack is a sort of reincarnation of Grady himself. Grady is the previous caretaker, and sort of the inspiration for Jack losing his mind. However, I don't really think that all of the ghosts in the hotel are ghosts in the sense that we traditionally think of. I think this might be what Halloran meant when he said that they're like pictures in a book. That was not the consciousness of Delbert Grady or whatever his name is talking to Jack, it was the hotel talking to Jack. The twins aren't asking Danny to stay with them forever, the hotel is. I think that's why when Jack asks if Grady was the caretaker, he doesn't say yes. The hotel is convincing Jack in that moment to take his rightful place. However, I don't think this is necessarily true every time that we see a ghost. I think that the reason that we're shown Jack in this photo is to show to us that he is being rewarded in his afterlife there. Many of the ghosts that we see are the guests of the hotel, and their deaths and backstories were very tragic. The party goers are the hotels' elite and staff. Jack is with them because he is the caretaker. If that distinction exists, there must be some level on which the consciousness of the ghost that we see is there, But I think that the hotel also creates phantasms of those that have died there in order to suit its purposes. Mind you, this only applies to the movie, and I haven't seen Dr sleep yet. But, having this interpretation does give me some answers to things like how the ghost in 237 was able to hurt Danny. That's not what Halloran was talking about.

[@WitWP359]

The only problem I have with Jack letting him self out of the store room is that there is a great big dirty bolt on the outside of the door. And Wendy would more than likely slid it on to keep him inside.

[@rbailey1240]

The final photograph is simple: Jack has ALWAYS been the caretaker.

[@CMinorOp67]

Question #9: I always thought that once Danny’s footsteps stopped, Jack should have turned around at that point to follow the footsteps out. But since he was being guided by confusion and rage, he continued forward. The maze paths don’t always stop at a dead end, when the wrong path is chosen. They can also go in circles and other looping patterns that are designed to confuse someone. So, the paths became overwhelming, due to the looping…and Jack truly got lost.

[@dirtydeeds8173]

You can't trust a Kubrick interview lol He would change answers to the same questions just to mess with people, I even think the Apollo 11 shirt was put in there to mess with people

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Maybe he put it there because he was asked to fake the moon landing?

[@CMinorOp67]

Question #3: what about the possibility that his name was Charles Delbert Grady? (Don’t think the girls were twins. Ulmann stated they were 8 and 10.)

[@williammansfield1973]

Amazing film!!! Love it.

[@LaktostheIntolerant]

I always wondered if that party wasn't the inciting incident for the hauntings, kind of like one debauched incident too many.

[@AnAverageGoblin]

don't let this distract you from the fact that the Shining didn't need a sequel.

[@movietimelines]

even if it didn’t need it, I’ll admit that i really enjoyed Dr. Sleep.

[@AnAverageGoblin]

@@movietimelines I liked it too but I felt like it could have been its own thing.

[@chokelaugher]

I always thought the photograph was not a photograph but just a sort of catalog of the victoms of the overlook.

[@thequestion4818]

I hope we can get Donnie Darko in this series someday. What the hell was that.

[@movietimelines]

that’ll probably get covered at some point, although the director pretty much explains everything in the commentary on the dvd, and the explanation suuuuuuccccckkkkkkssssss.

[@Sweetestsadist]

That documentary really sticks with you, doesn't it? I look for minotaurs whenever I see people skiing.

[@movietimelines]

so clearly a Minotaur in the labyrinth. how can it not be??? that documentary was wild. it was like 20% interesting stuff, and 80% people just making things up.

[@flibber123]

My opinion is that some people are reading way, way too much into everything in the movie. Example: why is Hallorann so afraid of room 237? First off, by Hallorann's own words people with the shining can see things in the hotel. He has the shining, therefore he's seen things in the hotel. Has he seen EVERYTHING in the hotel? No, he never says that. We can infer then that he has seen the woman in room 237 and maybe that's the worst experience he has had in the hotel. That would be why he's afraid of that room. Maybe he's never seen the two girls. Danny has a more powerful shining ability than Hallorann so we can guess that more of the hotel manifests in front of Danny than Hallorann. Remember that Hallorann walked into that hotel like he wasn't the least bit scared and he saw no ghosts even though the hotel was very active at that point.

[@Wickedblackjuggalo19]

Love The Shining proudly owns it on blu-ray and 4K I own Doctor Sleep as well

[@gabrieldiaz7329]

Please, please, please grace us with a “The Reanimator” timeline! The best mad scientist storyline ever!

[@The90sGamingGuy]

Good theory on the photo at the end of the movie. I assumed Jack was dead and now a part of the hotel. All the other explanations you had seem plausible. Great movie that i am going to watch again since its been a few years since I've seen the movie from start to finish. Great job on this video and the Halloween videos. I will be viewing your other videos.

[@Cat-47]

I love the "Unanswered Questions" Series

[@movietimelines]

it’s now monthly!

[@ikmor]

This!

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

@@movietimelines Monthly, Why? You should do two, one at the beginning and one at the end.

[@movietimelines]

my current schedule concept is 4 monthly series : Timelines, Unanswered Questions, Dead Last, and Horror Lists, with some How Bad Can it Be? thrown in there occasionally, so you’ll always be getting a variety of concepts.

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

@@movietimelines Oh, Gotcha. 😎👌

[@boogerandfriends]

The movie Doctor Sleep is indeed a sequel to the movie The Shining. This is why there are so many changes even in that movie, to accommodate Kubrick’s changes to The Shining.

[@ChuckyBoi88]

Yeah

[@LaktostheIntolerant]

I always figured it was the caretaker, but all of the ghosts are trapped in a shared universe where it's the night of the end photo and he genuinely thinks he's Delbert Grady, divorced from his horrible act. Most of what happens is the main entity screwing with the Torrences.

[@gustavefrankfurter6462]

You left out one of the Apollo 11 clues. When Jack is locked in the pantry, many cans of Tang are on the shelf. Tang was what the astronauts brought with them on their trip! On the shelf under, there is a product named Comet! 🤔

[@ristomattikolsi5711]

Actually, in the scene 2:32 Wendy and Danny are in hospital, where mr. Ullman comes to visit.

[@CAMPBLOODMEDIA]

Really wish we could see the scene that they removed from the ending

[@Mariani831]

It exists. Just hard to find...

[@charlottecomito7582]

I think the blood is the blood of the hotel, basically referring to the fact that it's a sick and dead hotel.

[@Weird_VHS]

How much research have you done into the moon landing?

[@josephmassaro]

I remembered seeing the trailer in theaters and distinctly remember the elevator of blood scene. I didn't see the movie until about 25 years later. It's ok. I don't think it's bad, but I don't get the amount of praise it gets.

[@catworrall457]

King wrote a book kubrick did a film

[@chrislooney9906]

What about the question of Jack's sanity? He seemed a bit nuts from the very start. So, was he already going crazy and the hotel tapped into that, or did the hotel make him crazy? I personally go with the former but I'm curious what you think.

[@adamgray1753]

I honestly think Jack's sanity was fairly strong initially. His self confidence to find stable work after quitting his alcoholic addiction seemed pretty low until he landed his Winter seasonal work at that hotel. So everything we see in The Shining could actually be Alcohol Withdrawal symptoms. However, due to the extreme isolation setting and Jack hitting one heck of a Writer's Block his sanity and patience started to take a serious beating. It sure as heck did not do Jack any favors having supposed Magickal/Supernatural happenings happened to him and his family over the course of their stay at that hotel.

[@movietimelines]

i think based on what we know about jack’s past, with the abuse and alcohol issues, and his demeanor early on, it looks like he was definitely on the edge before getting there. i think it’s less that he was starting to go crazy, but that he was closer to that edge to begin with, so was easier to push off of it.

[@chrislooney9906]

I could see that. I really respect how you actually take personal time after making your videos to respond to comments. Few channels do...

[@movietimelines]

Chris Looney thanks! I made a rule for myself ages ago that i would answer any comment that was a question, and it’s gotten harder as time goes on, but i think i keep on it pretty well.

[@chrislooney9906]

I definitely think you do! I am getting a few things in line, and then I intend to be a huge Patreon contributor. I would absolutely love the chance to debate movies with you at some point...

[@sonderstudios6675]

For those that don't realize, the hotel was polluted with so many spirits that it became alive, needing or wanting souls to capture for itself. Time flows differently in the hotel. That's why Jack "always was the caretaker". What has happened has always happened, and cannot be changed. It's a physics theory of looping. So since it came to be in the end, so it always was. Jack was not a reincarnation. That is the stupidest thing to even say. It's him.

[@mb2000]

18:51 Why is the toilet in the cubicle at the back of the shot right up against the side wall? Wouldn’t that make it very difficult to sit on?

[@saulpaul8422]

The picture at the films ending says "the Overlook Hotel" the family could have, "overlooked" the photo.

[@MiyuSawai]

What's up with the carpet in the Overlook Hotel's hallway?

[@anubusx]

Fun fact it was used in Sid's house in Toy Story.

[@liv1228]

I worked at a hospital with 12 floors on nightshift and multiple pipes burst above the elevators, so the dark rusty water gushing down and out of the elevator shift fora couple of hours was surreal. I was thinking....I've seen this movie....

[@sherry3035]

I’m not positive because I haven’t read it in a while but I believe Grady’s full name was quoted as Charles Delbert Grady in the SK novel.

[@justinalbin7272]

Regarding question #9, the video forgot to mention that Jack likely had a concussion from being whacked in the head with a baseball bat and tumbling down the stairs. All the more reason for him to be addled in the maze and succumb to the desire to sit down and rest.

[@doodle2223]

Very nice

[@mackermaldrill2656]

I question that I have asked on other channels, but haven't gotten any feed back on, is what happened between Charles (Delbert) Grady going mad and killing his family in 1970 and Jack attempting the same in 1980? Who was/were the caretakers between 1971-1979? I ask because Grady tells Jack, that he has always been the caretaker.

[@cliftonfatton251]

Ullman says that Grady's daughters are 8 and 10 but the apparition is of twins so they are the same age. So why did Ullman say they were different ages?

[@Mariani831]

Look again: they are wearing the same outfit -yet clearly a year or two apart.

[@phantom_troubadour]

The girls that were cast for the part are twins. In the novel, they are ages 6 and 8, and in the film they are 8 and 10. Very peculiar!

[@jessehammond9710]

This was the first time that mainstream audiences would see the degeneracy of furries. Kubrick was predicting the horrors of the future with that scene lol.

[@movietimelines]

Kubrick as brony confirmed.

[@henith7850]

Since doctor sleep recreated a bunch of shots from the first film and referenced things from the movie like halloran being dead, I think doctor sleep is canon even if I don’t like it. But in short with doctor sleep, all the evidence points to it being a sequel to the movie.

[@goliathsparrow1082]

King hated it and I get why Totally changes the nature/spirit and focus of the book: the book I couldnt put down: Kubric- meh seems a bit try hard to me

[@GlupiDecko]

I've always been wondering who was the winter caretaker of Overlook after Charles Grady committed suicide in 1970 but before Jack was employed in 1979/1980?

[@TreborPaulson]

Question #5 That’s twice now I’ve heard or read that something is in the blood. Where can I see more of this?

[@jackrobber2527]

Is it just me or does his beard have some strong Abradolf Lincler vibes to it?

[@barracudav.4483]

YES! The middle of his mustache was thicker and darker than the rest and I kept thinking "Hitler".

[@brothadarrell8315]

Since Jack had already been there in 1921 the generation passes on down to the next and his entire plan could have been to take them to that hotel and kill them because look at how his expression was while riding in the car with the family on their way there to the hotel it was pretty evil

[@minizole]

I saw a video where someone had the theory that a lot of scenes in the film don't actually happen and are actually all made up in Wendy's head. I loved the theory and if you played on that theory, you can argue that the mom was the original person with the shining and she was passing it on to her son, even going so far as Hallorann doesn't actually exist and is just a mental creation she came up with, that she used to 'teach' danny how to use the powers.

[@benrositas8068]

One question I've long had but no one has ever addressed, let alone answered: Why is Wendy running UP the stairs, calling out for Danny, when she clearly knows that he slid _down_ the snow drift, to the ground level? Granted, time has passed and she could've thought he ran back inside and to the upper level, but... why would she have thought that?

[@adambourkeproduction]

Here's a idea... try looking at dream interpretation (Sigmund Freud) for answers... you have a nutcase (Jack) Abused wife (Wendy) and abused child (Danny).... 1. the primary colors used in prominent scenes. 2. whats being looked at. 3. items that stand out in scenes. 4. patterns of evidence.

[@pearsemcgovern986]

Did anyone notice when jack and wendy are getting a tour of the hotel , when they head down the hallway to the ball room does anyone notice when jack is looking into the glass window to the ball room billl watson behind jack sorta gasps almost saying ahhh directing towards jack then jack turns around to bill....I only noticed this in the 4k release Also if u look closely at the end photo of jack with the crowd the way jack is positioned is exactly like the devil on a tarot card , this in my eyes was a way Stanley Kubrick wanted us to know that jack is the devil

[@achim7774]

Just finished watching the „Wendy theory“ and ... weirdly enough it would answer all the questions (without no.6). Basically the idea is that Wendy has mental issues and is hallucinating parts of the movie we see. The „continuity-errors“ give clues what is real and what is in her head. Interesting to rewatch this video with this theory in mind.

[@eZTarg8mk2]

are the ghosts real: every time Danny experience's a supernatural event there's a noticeable timeskip before his vision or experience, the doctor even says what is happening to him, a self hypnotic state, whatever we see happen after, Danny is now hallucinating. When Halloran appears to Shine, There was a time skip as they tour the freezer and kitchen...Halloran starts to open the freezer door next to his office, and they then enter and exit a different freezer at the end of the hall, you even hear Halloran say Storyroom, sounding like Danny's difficulty forming words (i'm not asposed to, he's the lillboi tha livsn my mouf...etc) that whole scene there's a gradual build up of noise like a pressure cooker going off, a very real sensory overload. When he see's the twins on a tricycle he starts in the kitchen and appears on the topfloor, when he goes into room 237 the carpet has changed direction, possibly implying he had unconsciously rotated or moved to a different corridor. Also, Jacks ghosts are all benevolent towards him until he goes into room 237, implying it's his fantasy. In room 237 he see's his fantasy, an idea partially put there by Wendy, which becomes rotten and corrupted after he sees images of his son looking...well...yeah. He's feeling guilt over something, and Danny was lured to 237 by Jacks tennis ball. You include the bear motif's that follow Danny through the movie..the ending 's ghost bear is meant to imply Wendy realising symbolically what's been happening between her son and husband (she's also completely gone insane at that point), even if you remove that very dark subtext, it allows Jack to be a credible perpetrator of the strangling of danny. His conversation with Delbert Grady in the red bathroom, physically takes place in the same space as the bar stool Jack first sat at. That's one of the very deliberate internal geometry "errors" that crops up in the film, and also why it had to cut when they entered that room as the set had to be built elsewhere or it would overlap the bar. Even Jack being let out of the storyroom, kubrick hints that it could be Danny/Tony with an infocus shot of Tony the tiger visible behind Wendy as she tries to calm herself and talk to Jack, there's even a second unsecured door to that room visible from outside, and also partially visible, in shadow, through the shelves while Jack is trying to get out 😅. I think Kubrick was very deliberate in leaving the interpretations open, and in providing logical clues for a variety of those interpretations to plausibly work (fake moon landing confession excluded). Are the ghosts real? maybe, maybe not...the more you watch the film the more you'll see to support both answers. If you analyse the main characters behaviours and what they actually say...it does imply Jack has physically hurt Danny more than once, at least, Wendy has been in an abusive relationship for a loooong time and covering for it, and Jack didn't stop drinking for at least a month after he told wendy he had. He's always been this unpleasant to them behind closed doors, and it's only when Wendy threatens to expose him by taking Danny to a doctor that he goes truly berserk. Kubrick was very deliberate when referring to the film, when he referenced the book Grady unlocking the storeroom he agreed that that story was supernatural, not necessarily his own version. He also said it's about a family going collectively insane. Each time i've watched the film i've either seen little snippets that enrich the lore of the ghosts, reinterpreting different conversations and what they might imply given a facial expression or a weird error of continuity...or more evidence it's all in their heads. Not many films have that level of depth these days. Anyhow, cheers for the vid dude, you brought up some interesting points

[@ninjapirate47]

Dr sleep the movie is clearly a sequel to the shining movie. The hotel still exists, whereas in the books the hotel is not present in dr sleep.

[@deliverfrance6450]

You have one of the most controversial moustaches of all time