10 Ways Marvel Can Dominate Again

The TJCS crew discuss how Marvel Studios can re-establish dominance in 2025 after recent stumbles.
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[@MCUHQ]

“The one thing they love more than a hero, is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you’ve done for them, eventually they will hate you”

[@thebulldogshowgaming]

Why bother? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@aaron827]

If you are implying that MCU is a hero then no you are wrong, MCU should've died a hero but it lived long enough yo be a villain amd destroy the legacy of the characters we loved. Black Widow, Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor.

[@jarg8]

No offense but bad quote to pull when all superhero blockbuster filmmaking has done is erode box office expectations, budgets studios think they need to spend, the VFX industry pipeline, shooting most of a movie in camera with supplemental VFX, and the idea of low budget + small profit dramas, comedies, etc. The quote doesn't fit because all they've "done" for us is make studios think this is the only thing that sells and that its ok to assemble most of your movie in post which results in rubbery, composited diarrhea sludge-looking movies

[@BM-sg1sl]

I’m glad John addressed those “losers” at the end of the video. You know who you are..

[@OhitsGeo]

Yall ask for too much. The MCU should move on from the Avengers and just focus on X-Men and the Fantastic 4 stories. I honestly don’t care about the Avengers anymore 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@EdenfieldBandJax]

33 fucking minutes? The answer is 3 words. Make good movies.

[@miz4535]

"just buy a house bro"

[@aaron827]

​@@miz4535Not the same thing.

[@cedfarmer898]

Kate Bishop bro 😅

[@Pelicanzzz]

The problem with the new characters is it is just a stream of new characters. Before a new character would get introduced *and then get used again*. This relates to how they used to sign people to multiple film deals, not one n done.

[@christophercoe598]

Everything John mentioned was (and is) ALREADY in play. He failed to mention the #1 thing that seems to be sabotaging ALL of it: writing! He loves Shogun, and even though not much happens in it, its so well written, it works, and has become a fantastic and gripping show to watch! Secret Invasion could have been good, if not for the inability to write proper character motivations. Let's be honest... Monarch was boring! 3-Body Problem was boring! Rings of Power was boring! All of which could have been saved in the writing. Without a properly written script, it's difficult for an audience member to root for the unlikeable or un-flawed characters. If we had quality along with the quantity we've had the past few years, we wouldn't be complaining. How did they go from making Samuel L. Jackson a badass in all of the movies to a lying and selfish jerk in his own TV show? Poor writing did it. Love the show you guys do, just thinking out loud.

[@MatiZ815]

He did not forget to mention it. It's literally one of his main points.

[@alex_reyes_6]

That was the Super Bowl spot that came out that had 365 million views

[@rhetro777]

And they counted all the people watching the super bowl in that view count lol

[@GMmoneyshorts]

@@rhetro777 No those are the views for the teaser online. not the teaser in the Super Bowl

[@KingDavid00]

I would love to see Moon Knight Season 2 and hopefully Werewolf by night could continue his story in that as well

[@timothywatters4774]

Yes! They weren't perfect but I liked them.

[@luisd7636]

you forgot: "cut down on the silly comedies"

[@j04370859]

John never agreed with that, other than Thor Love And Thunder. Also, people have been saying that even in the MCU's great days. 😂

[@luisd7636]

@@j04370859 i like to a certain degree. but a movie can't turn into a comedy.

[@AintNoWaye]

-Focus the new phase on X-Men, FF4 and Spiderman. -Make D+ shows just for street characters with netflix quality (and stop having big changes in shows for the whole MCU) -Stop pushing agendas (cringe i know but its true) and alienating audiences. -CHANGE NAME OF “THE BLIP” -More stakes stop bringing everyone back or reversing stuff. -FIND TRUE FILM MAKERS WITH CHARM LIKE GUNN -Give eternals world another chance😢 for my GOT boys and the amazing visuals

[@amariadams9408]

Gonna have to agree with this one! And yes Eternals 2 plzzzzz

[@Cam-px6fy]

I think you missed a big one. Somewhat related to #8, they NEED to pick a small group of characters, and make us care about them. Iron Man was in 9 of the 21 Infinity Saga projects including 3 standalone movies. There has been nearly the same amount of projects since then and no stand out characters. They’re attempting to make us care about dozens of characters without fleshing out any of them. Shang-Chi was great. We should have seen him in at least another standalone movie and an Avengers movie by now.

[@fastestfrank8346]

id also like to add maybe they should go back to some street level stories and work there way up to the big galactic stuff. my favorite part of shang chi was when he was in san Francisco fighting guys on the bus.

[@danielbrown6742]

I honestly thought I was the only thinking that. You’re right, cause to your point Shang Chi was a grounded street level story about family being distant or absent and what that does to people, but the movie was also connected to the larger marvel cinematic multiverse with the 10 rings which I think is supposed to have a connection to Kang

[@CoLdBl0oD93]

I'm fine with street level stories but abandoning galactic stuff for street is like dumb. We waiting decades for superheros to explore more of the comic lore such as space, cosmic gods and etc and don't want them to regress do only street level like we saw in the 90s and 2000s no thanks

[@LittleMan27]

“More mediocre to bad stuff” I’ll check that: 1: X-Men ‘97 (Phenomenal) 2: Loki (Phenomenal) 3: Guardians 3 (Phenomenal) 4: No Way Home (Amazing) 5: WandaVision (Amazing) 6: Wakanda Forever (Awesome) 7: Shang-Chi (Awesome) 8: Hawkeye (Awesome) 9: Black Widow (Great) 10: What If…? (Great) 11: Werewolf By Night (Great) 12: Moon Knight (Rlly Good) 13: Ms. Marvel (Rlly Good) 14: MoM (Good) 15: The Marvels (Good) 16: FATWS (Good) 17: Thor 4 (Okay) 18: GotG Holiday Special (Okay) 19: Eternals (Okay) 20: Quantumania (Meh) 21: Echo (Meh) 22: She-Hulk (Meh) 23: I Am Groot (Why?) 24: Secret Invasion (Why?)

[@DarMar106]

The amount of people that forget about WandaVision and the event that was that show is wild to me

[@user-et9mj5sx4b]

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha there is still some crazy people... That list, bwahahahahaha... Disney cry baby I see...

[@rhetro777]

You're really overrating a lot of that stuff. I wish Black Widow had been great. Hawkeye and What If(aside from the Dr Strange epsiode) were cringe. Thor 4 rating as okay is very, very generous of you 💀

[@DoomOverRichards]

The top 5 are the only good ones, the rest are garbage.

[@NoName-pl7zm]

Marvel Studios made possibly their biggest ever mistake by doing the multiverse saga now. They should have done a cosmic saga, then the mutant saga, THEN the multiverse saga. It’s too soon. For the cosmic saga Galactus should have been the main villain and fantastic 4 should have been brought in very early to be the main characters like iron man was and they should have had AT LEAST 2 movies before the next avengers movie so we get to know them just like Tony. Then they could have had all the stuff going on on earth during this saga aswell with Spider-Man, Black Panther, Sam Wilson etc. Wasted potential

[@blake8357]

If they dial back the tv series they can be interconnected like that, but having so many shows makes it impossible. The average person isn’t gonna watch 5 different shows in order to understand a movie.

[@blake8357]

Meaning re introduce the characters in the movies there in, but those that have seen the show will be rewarded while watching the movie

[@jamesrrbaker9564]

I also think Covid played a big role bc how are you gonna make the mcu keep going when people weren’t going to the movies post Covid

[@rhetro777]

Well, the movies they released during covid were crap until No way home.

[@jamesrrbaker9564]

@@rhetro777 i mean I like shang-chi and black widow gave us Florence Pugh but I wouldnt say black widow where worse than say Thor the dark world or iron man 3 but the enterals I would say was as bad as Thor the dark world

[@CoLdBl0oD93]

This right here. People are inconsiderate over the fact we had a pandemic that literally effected the way everything was run not just with marvel but every business. Not to mention writers strike, majors firing and boseman passing away. All these are out of marvels control.

[@bingForbes]

I trust Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman and Shawn Levy

[@geoffrobinson]

in other word people who had nothing to do with Feige and were brought over from a $70 billion price tag from Fox

[@justinchan6043]

Well, "make better movies" is a no-brainer. All studios should take that advice. I'm a writer, so I absolutely think that the screenplay itself is the backbone of the movie. It all starts with the story. You can't make a good movie with a crappy story. Just compare Rebel Moon parts 1 and 2 to Dune parts 1 and 2. 'Nuff said. (as Stan Lee used to say)

[@rhetro777]

Someday somebody needs to explain what was so great about Shang Chi. It seemed mid AF to me as a Marvel movie and especially as a martial arts film.

[@isaacblake5114]

💯

[@Zoeila]

This has the same energy as people that say black panther is mid

[@supakingkupa1523]

I thought it was just me. Honestly they haven’t dropped anything rewatch worthy since end game

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

Tony Leung is great in it. But that's about it.

[@BushmasterH]

The story was good but wish they got a better actor and fighter to play shang chi

[@JCIce007]

We had a long enough period of Marvel domination. I hope Deadpool 3 is good. But beyond that, there's I feel no need to see things go back to the way they were 2019. Instead, we coudl be entering an era of auteur-driven blockbusters thanks to Nolan, Villenueve, Gerwig, Peele, and of course Cameron. I'd rather see more studd like theirs dominate in the coming years than have another decade of Superhero Shared Universe Everywhere.

[@johncampea]

You talk like it has to be one or the other.

[@jarg8]

Well said. Hollywood made it their whole thing to the point where everything but low budget indie filmmaking was put on ice. What happened to the $20-50 million dollar movie? It's completely gone. Superhero movies made every studio think they need to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on everything AND that everything that doesn't make a billion dollars is a failure. It's so unhealthy for a creative industry to have so many inept suits because no one can just let filmmakers make their own kind of superhero movies. So little room for identity

[@JCIce007]

@@johncampea bu definition, you can't have two truly *dominant* forces in the same place at the same time. One of them has to give way (but can still he successful in its own right). Marvel-style movies dominated an era, and now the era may be nearing the end. It would be/wull nice to see something else on top of Hollywood for a while. Every era has to end at some point.

[@mahoner2]

This movie - in particular, OPENING NIGHT - will be fantastic. It will bring back that feeling of Infinity War and Endgame.

[@TheVarietyVendor]

1-Play ball with Sony to help produce the best product(loan out some of the characters). 2-More stand alone movies and shows. 3-Elseworld movies for the characters that are no longer part of the canon(e.g. grittier R rated Ironman, animated Captain America movie, Black Widow/Hawkeye video game). 4-Keep The Defenders serperate from The Avengers. Keep the same team that brought us the awesome shows from 10 years ago. With the same vision and feel. 5-Take a break from Multiverse stuff for atleast 8-10 years. 6-Introduce a Big Bad that would be the glue for the next phase. MEPHISTO and the accursed(Evil Doctor Strange, Hela, Dr Doom,Scarlett Witch and Agatha Harkness). Which would lead to the big bad of the next phase. Dr Doom, who claims The Heart of The Universe at the end of the next phase. Resulting all the heroes and villains banding together to try to stop Dr Doom from ending all of existence.

[@aaron827]

Yo you cooked

[@obsoleteill9706]

When John whipped out the Southern accent i died🤣🤣🤣 it reminded me of Foghorn Leghorn "I say I say I say i'm DUSTING"😂

[@shreyasvenkatraman6631]

One other point I feel they should do is establish core characters. Iron Man and Captain America were as John said the heart and soul of the MCU where even if you watched a movie not featuring them, you knew that they were the driving force. Now with so many characters, who is the driving force?

[@rhetro777]

Honestly, I think Kang was the closest they had to a driving force for Phase 4 & 5 and that's screwed now.

[@SHOUTxHIxHEYxHELLO]

Marvels been on top for 10+ years, honestly I hope 2025 is DC’s year

[@TerrellAustin19941]

Superman Is The Only Movie Coming Out Next year

[@D.J.R_Fit]

I completely agree with John, marvel hasn’t been the same. A movie hasn’t felt this hyped since end game. Knowing we are going to see Deadpool and Wolverine on screen makes heads turn on its own

[@loganboettcher8314]

Re: character deaths, in x-men: days of future past, it was poignant when Mystique saw the file of all the mutants' autopsies because it made clear the stakes that the government was doing everything to combat the "mutant threat."

[@MichaRoded]

One of the things that made Marvel work was the constant state of anticipation. Each movie built up toward the bigger story and the expansion of the MCU. Now Marvel has lost that. Even a good movie like Spider-Man 3 or Guardians 3 or Shang Chi didn't create a sense of anticipation for what's next. I fear the same thing will happen with Deadpool. Part if the problem with the MCU movies and shows is that their interconnected nature is a selling point while pushing away potential audiences. One way to solve the problem is to release 2 weeks before every movie or show a short "last time on Marvel" video narrated by a beloved supporting character. So people will be able to catch up in a fun way without following every output.

[@DrLoomisVisitsHaddonfield]

I love how Ray’s takes are conflicting with Campea’s today but are on point 😂

[@joecalahan4068]

I agree with all your points john campea

[@carlthomas5307]

Thanks John for this. I love these “Top 10” videos.

[@Incogneto1981]

Totally agree!

[@jean-alexandrethibault3892]

As an avid Marvel fan that has read thousands of their comics, the problem Marvel is facing now is that it has burned through 90% of good storylines. With the extreme rare exception, anytime a comic book movie has distanced itself from proven material, it failed.

[@joshbohrer2612]

They should do AvX.

[@JCIce007]

​@@joshbohrer2612problem is it would be ungodly expensive. For it to work, you need to bring back the actors associated with those roles. Iron Man alone would cost at least 50 million.

[@drewnes64]

It all comes down to: write good stories and make them look spectacular. I haven't lost faith and yeah I haven't been as excited but I try to remember they are movies and to have fun. Make them epic movies again and people will come back. Keep Disney+ shows for street level characters with less VFX as well.

[@JRiley187]

Also, for the love of god, stop with the multiverse stuff. Its everywhere, anywhere (all at once) at this point. Even Deadpool and Wolverine trailer, as soon as they mentioned multiverse I groaned.

[@toshtao1]

Multiverse makes a lot of money and most of them get good reviews. L take.

[@mun123keet]

At least for D&W, it makes sense for them to incorporate multiverse because they need to transition Deadpool from the Fox universe to the MCU.

[@charleslemon8777]

The whole point of the multiverse that people aren’t realizing is how they set up secret wars. That’s what secret wars was in the comics in the second version of the story was different worlds colliding and hero’s coming from different universes to fight and die and end up making one new universe. Makes sense with Kevin saying marvel is gonna have a reboot after secret wars

[@JRiley187]

@@charleslemon8777 The multiverse plot point has been overused in movies, tv shows, video games etc as of late. As for marvel, they haven’t done a good job connecting it to the inevitable secret wars. It’s difficult to care about any character once you open that pandora box of multiverses and various versions. It lessens the sense of stakes

[@toshtao1]

@@JRiley187 How about you be patient and wait for Secret Wars before making that baseless assumption about stakes? Kang/Doom are going to kill A LOT of characters you care about.

[@jackgreenway4679]

21:22 I agree John but the trick is to do that without a bunch of cameos in each movie. Cameos aren’t as fun anymore because there’s too many of them and not done well. Here’s an example you could connect movies maybe talk about the giant arm on the planet since The Eternals that it seems with every movie no one talks about.

[@samanthamaclean1430]

I do agree with John, and what the MCU should do to succeed in future film and series projects

[@nolinpowe]

But even Kevin Feige said his former boss forced him to push out as many Marvel movies as he could

[@toshtao1]

He should have threatened to quit.

[@jarg8]

They dont need any help. The movie industry shouldnt be dominated by one single sub-genre/style of filmmaking. Look where we are: most studios seem to think you need to spend $300-500 million to make a movie and everyone expects every movie to make ≈ 1 billion+. Meanwhile, companies like A24, Neon, and IFC are dominating because budgets are kept low so profits are easier to achieve with less return needed. As far as I'm concerned: less executives, more "products" that actually look and feel like they were made by a team of artists instead of a boardroom committee. It's like eating McDonald's instead of a mom and pop burger restaurant. Indescribably processed and micromanaged formula/template instead of a recipe someone wanted to make

[@carlthomas5307]

22:15 is when John gives his rant about Transformers: The Movie. Ohhhhhhh how I cherished the classics. Thanks John 🤣

[@MatiZ815]

All great points.

[@KianOwen-gp1xr]

For me I think they need to bring back mentions of the old characters like bucky telling yela about Steve and thor explaining hawkeye about the guardians, plus Carol talking to strange about the multiverse and hulk and spider man talking about the incursions, and that etc, they really explain the story with daredevil and moon Knight

[@aaron827]

How does that save the MCU?

[@retloclive9118]

A lot of the MCU's issues the last few years stemmed from Chapek's "quantity over quality" bs. Hopefully, the quality returns.

[@chrisdavidson6507]

Point 8. Black Widow, No Way Home, Multiverse of Madness, Love and Thunder, Wakanda Forever, WandaVision, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Loki, Hawkeye, Quantumania, GOTG3, The Marvels, Secret Invasion all contained OG characters. Shang Chi, Eternals, Ms Marvel, She-Hulk, Echo contain new characters. Quite clearly there is more OG and new.

[@joshhunt4146]

She Hulk, Ms Marvel and Shang Chi also had OG characters there aswell - maybe for only a few minutes but they were there.

[@aaron827]

​@@joshhunt4146If that's the case then Black Widow, Multive of Madness, FATWS, Loki all had new characters

[@joshhunt4146]

@@aaron827 yep but it’s impossible to have any film or show without at least one new character 😂😂 that’s not that big of a deal - it’s the same with any franchise

[@chrisdavidson6507]

I totally forgot to mention Moon Knight. The ratio of OG characters is still higher.

[@aaron827]

​@@joshhunt4146There's a difference, MCU has had new characters, side characters, female characters overshadow the main ones often

[@adamwhite4858]

The interesting thing about the MCU from my perspective, is they really have been producing good/great content at pretty much the same pace they have been since day one. The problem is that they doubled their output and far too many of those excess projects failed to hit the mark. I think it also really sticks in people’s minds when several of the more recent projects like Thor 4, She Hulk, Marvels and Secret Invasion are all in the conversation for the worst MCU project. I do think people are a bit too quick to forget that we’ve had some top tier MCU content like No Way Home, Guardians 3, and Wandavision, though. I also quite enjoyed Dr Strange 2, Shang Chi, Moon Knight, Loki, and Eternals, although I know opinions are more split on some of those. End of the day, I think the death of Marvel has been exaggerated to a certain degree, and they can definitely get back to their glory days if they just do a better job trimming the fat.

[@aaron827]

I can give you some point on No Way Home and Guardians although both of those movies are mid, Guardians more so. Wandavision had an interesting premise but it ended up making it awful, idk if you remember how many people hated the final episode. Shang Chi had some cool fights but none of characters that were worth caring about. A third act that just felt unearned for a story that should have been personal. Do I need to say anything about Eternals? Moon Knight started off well but it ruined it's own interesting premise by dealing with mythology in the dullest way possible. Not only that Moon Knight is bary in the show. Funny how Moon Knight is called the MCU Batman but barely felt like it. Loki has the worst writing in the MCU history and deserves to be hated. It literally broke the entire universe, TVA makes no sense, they disrespect Phase 1-3 a lot of times, disrespect Loki so many times, try to make Slyvie the star of the show when she barely does anything worth being one. Edit: Multiverse of Madness is one of the worst written movie ever, it makes no fucking sense at all. The fact that this writer will write Avengers 5 has me worried. There's more misses that you didn't mention, so allow me to FATWS, Black Widow, Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, Ms. Marvel, Hawkeye, What If, Echo. There's way more misses than hits. 2 okayish movies in 4 years is not a good thing for a franchise. DCEU did that and it failed

[@MrTeej6631]

I'm reminded of A.O. Scott's closing lines of his review for Revenge of the Sith, which I think applies to marvel as a well right now, "Movies end. Life goes on".

[@crimsonorc]

This gushing of Deadpool 3 is setting up expectations way too high.

[@boombasett6038]

I'm happy I'm one of the few who didn't jump on the bandwagon that Marvel was finished. They had a hiccup...big deal. I never had a doubt that both Marvel and DC will come back stronger with their movies. People forget that COVID did a number on everyone.

[@Derryweedsmoke]

Covid effected everything..except No Way Home

[@Jimmy074x4]

I think after endgame, we should’ve gotten a wind down of movies showing the aftermath and then dealing with Iron Man‘s death. And we should’ve in 2021 or 2022 gotten the first movie in the soft reboot featuring one of the X-Men as its main character followed by several other movies featuring X-Men sprinkled with other Marvel movies in between eventually leading to collaboration of X-Men by this point recasted or other world members of the avengers joined the 10 year plan ending with another endgame event. I feel like Marvel wants to re-create the success it had with endgame and infinity war, but they want to skip the build up. They forget it was pretty much a 10 year hype machine.

[@taihirglover8469]

John been saying no one dies in the MCU but all the damn villians are dead. Stop it 🤣

[@antariksh4894]

Not enough heroes stay dead in the MCU

[@taihirglover8469]

@@antariksh4894 That I get you can say that but even then Yondu died never came back, Quicksilver too, so for John to keep saying "Fake Death" universe is incorrect.

[@dablaccaiyan9152]

As a black man i think the MCU should make every character a 40 year old white man 😂😂😂

[@boombasett6038]

And as a black man living in Brooklyn....NO! Diversity ! earth is not just made up of white folks....although there are some who think so.

[@dablaccaiyan9152]

@@AdamSummers-tj2mm 🤣🤣🤣 that should be an SNL skit

[@crashbandi-cody6782]

@@boombasett6038 The problem is so many movie companies think us wanting more diversity means changing the race/gender of established characters

[@aidenj7985]

Either you die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

[@ChefRigo]

Please tel me you guys will post the show even though it wasn’t live

[@alexanderadonyae7937]

Marvel said they bringing Wesley Snipes back as Blade in the Multiverse💥 that's a huge step going into the right direction..make more R rated comic book movies✔️ make great PG-13 movies again too!

[@WhatamIdoinghere1]

Completely agree with all of this. Especially the first two more obvious points. If they really slow down their frequency of movie releases and make each one a high quality film, they’ll get their reputation back. Maybe not to the levels of pre-endgame but I think they can get close.

[@chevezjohnson2523]

Why do people act like Marvel is not still dominating? What movie studio right now is doing better than Marvel? Or even rivals it

[@mywifeleftme9110]

Universal out-grossed Disney in global box office in 2023 and thus far in 2024 Disney doesn’t have a single film in the box office top 10.

[@groot7844]

Antman and the Wasp Quantamania - 476 million dollars (lower than the first 2 Antman movies, which were the some of the lowest earning MCU movies at the time). The Marvels made 200 million dollars, by far the lowest MCU movie financially. And they're only having one movie this year. To focus more on quality, which is a good thing, but still. Also I guess just a general feeling of lack of excitment for the films (other than Deadpool 3, which the excitment comes mostly from previous X-Men characters).

[@jawathazagora]

Hulk vs wolverine movie / spider man 4 being good / replace avengers with good new characters mixed with already known good characters/ make movies on what fans want to see

[@Fourmath]

26:15 Pietro, Gamora, Loki, Black Widow, Maria Hill, Aunt May, Yondu, Phil Coulson, Heimdall, Ajak, Ikiris, and Iron Man

[@drizzyfreckles]

Queen Ramona died saving someone else

[@kompanjonac]

They way they killed of Maria Hill is just stupid. That whole show was stupid

[@parsman9914]

Right?

[@alexprinsrealestateagent1263]

Deadpool 3 looks like a lot of fun, but I’m not exactly shooting my lo*d over here. Marvel isn’t going to make a 180 anytime soon. They will be on decline for another 5-10 years.

[@DeRussellMasina]

John you inspire me to start my own channel

[@LARKXHIN]

The new home studio looks real nice

[@brucewilson3226]

John I disagree about your take on Disney +. You do shows that culminate into a movie. Depends on the stories and execution. And you could also do a movie and then add depth and tell side stories (spin off) on Disney + based on the story laid out from the movie. It could work either way.

[@LeonardoMenezes03]

Regarding deaths in MCU, I only considered a fake death when the movie finishes with a character dead and in the next they come up with an excuse to ressurect them. That being said apart from the Snap, only Loki and Coulson come to mind, but Coulson it's kinda not canon.

[@luvuyonobadula40]

World War Hulk! That movie would crack a billion.

[@isaacblake5114]

Enough said John campea I 💯agree with everything you have said in this video including diversity because I have grown up let’s hope Kevin figie and bob iger see this video of yours

[@freshparkfilms]

I think make movies about your main characters but in between movies use your TV shows to tell fans what's going on between movies, it would increase intreat in shows and get people I terested in Dusney Plus ...but carefully orcastrate it to make it interesting story wise & build on the characters + their adventures 😅idk if it would work but if Enid people were involved and there was clear communication, and we didn't tie the hands of creatives making them add things they don't want to just to inter-connect things by have an overarching theme/ story points that get sowed into the idea of the shows/ films so it doesn't feel like a quick add on

[@Sadzilla]

Idk what it is but this format feels much better than what you were doing

[@jiffypoo5029]

Lets be real, Kang has never been a cool villian and was a pathetic replacement for Thanos. Trying to build a franchise around a lame villian with boring powers that old man cap can beat with a single punch was a bad idea.

[@injusticejames]

Yesssss, thank you

[@KingArthur973]

"Once you are at the top, the haters come out and try to bring you down". See, this is what happens with a lot of things that are popular. When you're the best, everyone else will hate you for it. The MCU had been one of the most popular franchises for a long time and it’s got to the point where people desperately what to see this franchise crumble.

[@GefilteFish.]

It's not so much that people want it to crumble...it's just that, it isn't as good as it used to be. Simple as that People aren't hating just to hate. Like at gotg 3 Also, endgame felt like...well...the end. And now peole have moved on, hence the not so great box office numbers here and there

[@AliFrankTheTank]

2, 4 and 8 !

[@aprilnewell5434]

It shouldn't feel like homework if it is good. If all the content was amazing people will want to watch it.

[@JinxTheLooneyToon915]

22:55 | Get over yourself 25:38 | Spike Lee's next movie😂

[@MorbidGod391]

14:53 the fact you have to ask is not a good sign 😂

[@DeRussellMasina]

Black Lawyer 😂😂😂😂😂 NOYCE organic humor guys

[@samuelchampion9689]

Looooool dark justice!!

[@DeRussellMasina]

@@samuelchampion9689 only on Melanted Marvel

[@verneri1032]

Ant-Man should've died in Quantumania.

[@shravanav993]

Hank Pym at least

[@benm5970]

Here’s a couple things I think they should do Stop introducing so many new characters- I like that the MCU wants to give us some new characters but they’ve just been doing way too much of it lately, it feels ever since Endgame we’ve gotten like 14 new characters and it’s only been 5 years since that movie, like John said, I think the smarter approach is by having a mix of the newcomers and the veterans to slowly usher us into the new age, but they’ve just been throwing us headfirst into the new age lately, introduce the Fantastic Four but keep Spider-Man around for a while, give us Blade but let us be with Ant Man for a bit longer, because it helps make the transition easier, I’m excited to see some of these new characters but I don’t want it to feel like the ones I’m familiar with are just going to immediately disappear once they’re introduced Don’t make the Disney+ shows essential to understanding the MCU- While I’ve enjoyed some of the ones they’ve put out I ultimately think that Marvel making the Disney+ shows was a mistake, partly because it felt like with a few exceptions like Wandavision or She Hulk most of the Disney+ shows just felt like MCU movies that they cut up and disguised as tv shows because they wanted to make a bunch of exclusive content for Disney+ when it was first starting out, but also because they’ve chosen to make the shows essential watches for understanding the story of the MCU, even though other than us movie fans most average moviegoers don’t watch these shows and thus they don’t understand some of the things they see in later MCU movies like who Ms Marvel is and things like that, I feel like the approach they should be taking is having the Disney+ shows be like side missions in a video game, where you have the option to do them if you want to, you can get a little more lore out of them as a result but they aren’t *ESSENTIAL* to the main story and you can still understand the whole story without doing them, that way the hardcore fans have some extra content if they want and at the same time none of the causal audience will be lost by not seeing it

[@Jimmy074x4]

The difference is all the movies used to be made like a monster of the week TV show. They all had their own big bad and they all ended with a bow with a little bit of bigger avenger type stuff sprinkled in now every movie has to be this huge crossover event with multiple characters ,fan service And endgame like expectations . Endgame was a culmination of over 20 movies and dozens of individual stories.

[@JusticeShines]

Multiverse Saga should have been about a multiversal team called the illuminati led by Dr. Doom who is going around destroying universes in the background of the movies until we get the movie universe and have a showsown

[@simonkammeyer4334]

It all starts with good writing...oh and Kevin. I'm actually really worried for the MCU, If "Special K" departs.....I don't see things going well for marvel. I personally hope Kevin stays and oversees the MCU for the foreseeable future. And then trains is successor.

[@reelgirl26]

Actually 2 have stayed dead. Obadiah Stain/Iron Monger from IRON MAN has stayed dead and then yes, Quick Sliver for #2.

[@ZensanFGC]

Give the Avengers a break and go full X-Men.

[@Jimmy074x4]

One other thing I think should’ve happened is , two different worlds when it comes to movies and shows. I would’ve loved if None of the shows on Disney+ existed . And instead, the first show we got from marvel was The Avengers 813 or whatever number they please, and for the show to be about the avengers from another universe recast everybody for tv . And then an X-Men also casted separately from the MCU with its own stories , We are grown up to enough to understand that the TV shows and the movies would be different universes and are no way connected, except they could’ve eventually led to secret wars, where we get characters from the TV shows and characters from the movies to fight each other lol

[@jstn7936]

The number is skewed. It's taking the Superbowl commercial viewership number. I believe the movie will hit the Billion dollar club. Excited for the movie but remember the trailer viewership number is skewed

[@rhetro777]

I could be wrong, but I don't think Marvel movies are going to hit a billion again until they've been consistently releasing bangers for awhile. I don't even see any hype for Deadpool among average people, just the hardcore fans.

[@jstn7936]

@rhetro777 I see your point across but I have a feeling that this movie will be a rewatchable film that will generate buzz.

[@funkysam1345]

Well here's the thing with D+. U first ought to have a grand overarching story of plan fr the next couple of yrs. Then, every project u release whether it's a movie or show ( although i really wouldn't call them shows. They really are just 4 hr movies) shld either be part of that storyline or seperate from it. In the sense they will still be inside the MCU but won't really play a role in this overarching story. They'll have their seperate adventures in self contained series.

[@FaHus15]

What if you want to incorporate heroes from Disney + shows to movies? Let say Daredevil. What if you want him to be in the movies and interact with the other characters?

[@MorbidGod391]

They tried that with The Marvels and it failed. But Daredevil will be a little different because Matt already was in the movies.

[@rhetro777]

He got semi-introduced in No Way Home, so it wouldn't feel as out of nowhere.

[@joshprice5354]

Biggest problem is people are apparently to lazy to watch a d+ show before a. Movie 😂

[@BM-sg1sl]

😂😂 11:20 Ray dropping gems then surprised

[@beard_belichick4216]

🤔 since we’re doing a multiverse saga they should’ve thought ahead and actually made the Disney plus shows in other universes with different actors. They own the IP so they can use the names and same costumes and save money while introducing the fans to the multiverse. I think that would’ve been cool.

[@jloiben12]

(1) Make good movies and tv shows. [large gap] (2) Stop introducing 5381530 characters before you see one for a second time. It is an interconnected universe. It needs to feel that way. Stark and Rogers were in most pre-Endgame movies for a reason

[@jaybling6687]

We would have gotten official word of a Shang Chi sequel already under normal circumstances.

[@jloiben12]

@@jaybling6687 That doesn’t make the point you think it does

[@jaybling6687]

@@jloiben12 And what point did you think I was trying to make since you think I was disagreeing with you?

[@jloiben12]

@@jaybling6687 The only point that comment can have any relevance to. The one your comment necessarily was disagreeing with

[@jaybling6687]

@@jloiben12 Explain how I was disagreeing with anything.

[@rafaelcantero94]

You said you didn’t want stuff to connect then 5 minutes later you said you want them to connect 🤔😂 in my opinion, they need to be more picky about who gets D+ shows

[@brucewilson3226]

It’s not that difficult. When you have all those comic book series and you KNOW what comic series sold more than others. You have the data on the characters and story lines marvel comic fans would want to see in live action. The big problem is not the amount of content coming out it’s the choice of character and story. Who cares about ms marvel? Or those fake new characters you created from Disney +? Go back to the source material and you’ll find stories and characters comic fans loved and would want to see on the big screen OR Disney +.

[@damiandekker474]

Quicksilver's death doesn't even count, since they introduced him in that same movie and didn't really give us a chance to get attached.

[@josermaiz]

Now with avengers 5 and secret wars movies near the counter this the time to have incursions Deadpool and Wolverine will have a lot of incursions cause many heroes and villains are on the void and incursions will make people cry again like endgame or turning into spaghetti like Loki season 2 episode 6

[@philipcohen7192]

The transformers: the movie is a classic and the fans learned to love it.

[@spaceape9606]

Werewolf By Night was Cool, they should do Disney Plus shows like that.

[@toonytube2444]

Okay. They I say it: Dont make Disney+-shows!

[@MichaelWilinski]

Could Paradox be Doctor Doom?

[@joshhunt4146]

Tony, Steve, Quicksilver, Wanda, Natasha, T’Chala, Queen Romonda, Coulson (AoS is no longer canon), Yondu, Peggy and Vision have all died. That’s quite a lot of characters for a fake death universe. That’s not to mention Gamora who is dead because the version in Guardians 3 is completely different to the one we knew. I understand what you mean if we were in 2018 - but now you can’t say that characters don’t die because they definitely do

[@RoyConwell]

Steve is not dead. He is an old man living off the grid somewhere.

[@joshhunt4146]

@@RoyConwell wasn’t there a big ‘in memoriam’ in Spiderman: Far From Home and Steve was on it. I thought that was the confirmation that he died an old man

[@RoyConwell]

@@joshhunt4146 oh you might be right, Ill have to look that up

[@adamwhite4858]

Wanda almost certainly isn’t dead, given the flash of red you can see before she would’ve been crushed, and Vision was resurrected. Steve and Peggy died peacefully of old age, so not the kind of dramatic battle deaths relevant to this point. I generally agree with the sentiment of your comment, but it is a bit telling that part of your list doesn’t really count as “real” deaths.

[@joshhunt4146]

@@adamwhite4858 do you not think Wanda is dead? I mean she might not be fair enough but we have had no hint in the 2 years since multiverse of madness that she is, not to mention Marvel themselves actually classifying the character as dead in their ‘official timeline’ thing they released

[@ssseditz6613]

Deadpool 3s success doesn't mean anything They 3 good movies at best to get the momentum back... Gotg 3 made money but the marvels flopped same thing could happen to captain America 4 (without captain America)

[@toshtao1]

Sam Wilson is Captain America.

[@ssseditz6613]

@@toshtao1 not to the public eye imo...

[@timothywatters4774]

​@@ssseditz6613People liked Falcon & The Winter Soldier.

[@CoLdBl0oD93]

Wow 1 flop out of 33 films. What will they ever do

[@toshtao1]

@@CoLdBl0oD93 Yeah directly connecting TV shows to a movie was a mistake. Easily fixed.

[@jdovma1]

John Campea's recipe to making better product. Step 1 - Make better product. Enjoy..

[@aaron827]

Bit reductive don't you think?

[@jdovma1]

@@aaron827 That's the joke. Even John acknowledges that goes into the "no shit" category. I'm just having fun with it. You can, too, you know.

[@johnsalvi2273]

John....if I superchat $100 can ypu make a video just on the 1986 Transformers movie?