100,000 miles of regret | My RAM Promaster camper van

[@netac7667]

Over the years I lost interest in riding and slowly unsubscribed from the many MTB channels I followed.. except yours. I stayed more for the personality rather than the content (which is great too). I'm thankful for this kind of 'extra' content, other than the riding videos. It is truly inspiring to watch the path you took and still on. Looking forward to see what is coming next. Thanks.

[@bkxc]

I appreciate that very much. I enjoy telling all kinds of stories and having everyone come along for the ride!

[@Adam6224x]

Yeah, similar. (I still ride a lot, I even met Brian on the trails few months ago, but just like this kind of content more)

[@kenhoward3512]

I have forever wanted to see a review like this. When asking owners how they feel about their Promaster Van (or most any new vehicle), they always want to mention positives and steer clear of negatives. A $17k engine replacement - after meticulous and expensive regular maintenance - at 75,000 miles? Whether it's Promaster/Fiat, Ford, or Mercedes/Sprinter, I truly just wish Toyota sold their cargo or camper vans in the U.S.

[@roundsm18]

75,000 is kind of a fluke. As much as I know how much the Asian vehicle fans want to hate on them, you should get 1/2 to 3/4 million out of one of these. Solidly. Thats running 12 hour days, 7 days a week. I say this outright hating this platform even. Toyota has its fair share of inexcusable failures too - Hino 268 is one. Tundra trying to masquerade as a half ton and function in fleets is another.

[@ryanpipkin]

get a Toyota SUV (Sequoia, Land Cruiser, even a 4Runner) or a Tundra, to tow a Travel Trailer.

[@herecomesforego1787]

Will my 2011 Sienna be enough???

[@justinuriahphoto]

Vehicle prices are crazy. I remember being a teenager in the 90's and Lamborghini's were around $125,000. A fully furnished van costing something similar in 2023 is mind blowing.

[@bkxc]

Hahaha yes!!

[@Scroll_Lock]

Calculate inflation, from 1993 that would now be $263,583.04. The thing that irritates me more is that you can't even get a house for that now. The Covid van life boom caused the price hike mostly. The Winnebago Revel used be be sold for around $130,000 and then suddenly it went to $212,000 almost a year later.

[@DMB-pe8hk]

Plenty of houses in decent neighborhoods under 230k. Just not every town.

[@wantsanewvehicle]

I don't ever really plan on buying a ram promaster, but I watched this video just to see what issues you've had and whatnot. Glad I stuck around, the last minute made it worth it ;)

[@PuffinPass]

Engine replacement on your dime at 75k miles is a pretty big negative IMO. I was considering a van for a while but I have decided instead to go with a truck and add an overlanding style camper on it which will allow sleeping space as well as internal bike storage. The real issue with vans for me is the overinflated value they have at this point on the used market. I am seeing 200k E250 vans with the 5.4 Triton (yuck) going for 10k+ with utility racks still in them. I think vanlife in general killed vanlife as a reality for most people.

[@bkxc]

Pretty big negative is an understatement 😫. I am very intrigued by the overlanding setups!

[@PuffinPass]

@@bkxc Worth looking at as I think it allows more flexibility of both vehicle options as well as where you can actually travel to. I am in the process of getting the money together for a Radica Moonlander but GoFastCampers is a good option if you have the coin to spare and a truck they build for.

[@davisjl1979]

Im looking at midsize truck and the Tune M1 topper. The lightweight camper market has lots of options now!

[@Doodooheadguy-fishing]

@@bkxc project M pop up topper and many like it let's your truck be a truck while keeping all your gear safe

[@nateums]

Oof… it’s nice to have the van for sure, but I’m gonna try a camper suv setup first with a bike rack

[@MichaelSmalleyMPA]

Update: Credit where credit is due - those who followed my Wayfarer Vans saga. Happy to say, they stood behind their work and made things right. Thank you Wayfarer Vans and Mitch, for ultimately doing the right thing. Kudos to small companies like this, who take responsibility for their products.

[@bkxc]

Glad it worked out for ya

[@johnhaug8317]

I too have a 2019 Promaster with 65K miles, which I fully built out myself (my COVID project). I am soooo happy to have made the decision to get the van. My wife and I (and our dog until he passed) have traveled all over the west mountain biking, skiing, hiking, and enjoying the great outdoors. The DIY buildout was challenging at times, but nothing I think most people with some construction/renovation skills can't handle. And the beauty of building it yourself is that you know about every system and component in the van - no mysteries. Thanks for all the MTB stoke as well as the Promaster stoke (when you're not getting towed) Brian. I have thoroughly enjoyed your channel and perhaps we'll swing over to your little paradise and say hello sometime!

[@bkxc]

That’s just too cool! Glad that thing has brought you so much joy over the past few years!!

[@justinuriahphoto]

Cool to know you met your wife through this adventure! Great story!

[@bkxc]

Thanks so much!

[@stevecoscia]

This is a terrific video. 2019 was the year I got the OVRLND pop-up camper for my Nissan Frontier. I also benefitted during COVID and enjoyed hundreds of days, camping through the lower 48 states. I am 70 years old and enjoying every minute. I can relate to just about everything in this video. Nice job, conveying your thoughts and ideas.

[@micah-hooka7275]

@14:20……One tip for keeping those water jugs fresh for a MUCH LONGER PERIOD…..My large Reservoir Dog Watering dispenser is made of clear plastic and with his little tongue adding to the germ multiplying, the green algae would bloom within a week. So to battle this nastiness, I remember going on a school field trip to Baltimore Inner Harbor, we boarded the PRIDE of BALTIMORE Clipper Schooner Ship. As a 3rd grade boy, I asked the tour guide historian how did the sailors aboard “get to drink the ocean water all around the ship”……well, I didn’t know at that time as a boy that drinking sea water was a death sentence. So the guide took our class to the bow and showed us all the wooden barrels that stored fresh drinking water for the voyage. My teacher asked how would the drinking water barrels stay fresh and not spoil and get the sailors sick from drinking it. The guide explained that the crew would place silver coins or silver bars at the bottom of the barrel. The silver is anti microbial, keeping the water fresh for drinking during the entire voyage. So I tested the old method in my dog’s watering reservoir. I put my collection of pure silver coins in the watering reservoir of his dish and now he drinks every last bit of his water! Now I change his watering dish only when it’s gone and needing refilled!!! It works PERFECTLY!!! TRY IT IN ALL YOUR FRESH WATER TANKS…..The worse that could happen is that you have $30 per ounce stashed away in your rig for when you’re broke.

[@rascal1234]

I hear you on the cost issue. I used to rent hotels alot and just drive. The problem I had was bed bugs. So, I have a truck camper. For me, it is totally worth it. I don't like tents and sleeping bags either. The best thing about my rig is the bathroom.

[@bkxc]

Ahh, bed bugs are a nightmare!

[@ScottBalkum]

Promasters regularly get 400-500K miles on original transmissions and engines. There are things that fail all the time and there are things you shouldn’t do with a Promaster. I’d recommend watching Promaster’s Only channel. He shows you how to fix everything on Promasters. He has one with over 700K on it. I have 140K on mine with original everything and no issues at all. It can be done.

[@LCLand]

Interesting.

[@stephenmcconnell4302]

Yeah I was thinking how the hell did you blow that motor??

[@blipblop92]

I really think the dealership he went to didnt do what they were charging him for

[@macemace5196]

It can be done but that's not the norm

[@johnmerkel756]

I would not trade my Promaster for any other van. Reliability and longevity are my hot buttons, I get both with my PM

[@bmwlane8834]

The fact you met your wife....that's worth it all. So awesome....sucks about the engine!

[@bkxc]

Most definitely!

[@andrewnorris5415]

Nice to hear your uncle Dennis still inspires you! Mine (who passed away a year or so ago) still inspires me too. It's as much the attitude you pick up when you remember them! And indeed, just do something, it will lead to many positives. Don't delay over all the choices we have, just make one and get going. Will learn a lot and have adventures.

[@bkxc]

Most definitely!! Get out there and live.

[@beamerb8152]

Thank you for really putting those wants and needs into perspective. I got turned on to “camping” when I was a trucker. Now that I’m in corporate, I wanna go back without having to break the bank. Love the minimalism.

[@connorbruson473]

Driving a Promaster like a grandma is key! The transmission just can't take a lot of hard shifting. Our 2017 Promaster has ZERO problems in 85k miles. It's a game changer for mountain biking in so many new, beautiful places!!

[@bkxc]

That’s great to hear!

[@reidcrosby6241]

Some can be 100k and be on second engine and third tranny.

[@MDounBally-pt8gz]

Agreed with you, I don’t think these cars are made for mountain climbing with heavy loads on them, they are a work van for inner cities, dust you have to drive nice with it.

[@LCLand]

@@reidcrosby6241im so glad I saw comments like this. I almost bought a travato. How is ford transit?

[@reidcrosby6241]

@@LCLand my local ambo guys have begun replacing the promasters w/ Transits (and E series cutaways). They had a "sprinkling" of Transits in the fleet. They are WAY better than Promasters, but not as good as old E-Series (2014 and below). They literally scrapped 4 ..2019 Promasters last week. CRAZY. They sold a few that were still usable. The track record is just abysmal. They can have 100-120k and be on second tranny and already a new engine. Can't even getca tranny. There is some sort of issue with the plastic oil filter housing cracking. There are prob STILL 5-8 sitting in lot waiting for parts , or being canibailized. ALL new vans are harder to work on and take much longer to work on.

[@David_Arteman]

I loved my 2016 Dodge 1500 Promaster work van. The six cylinder FWD was really nice. Although the van had ISSUES and was quirky. My company tried to deliver TWO new vans and I refused. But accepted a brand new Chevrolet van in 2021 and retired Jan 2, 2022.

[@evnthrzon]

Mine has 520k miles . Engine was replaced at 420k. Original transmission is still good knock on wood. It runs perfect. Drives like new No lie. Headlights do suck. I replaced the clearance lights because the originals will leak after awhile . Upgraded the factory Brembo brakes too drilled and slotted, Its a 2500 with the factory big brakes Which are awesome.

[@bkxc]

That’s some pretty good mileage!! Hope this one goes another 500,000!

[@franco-g4610]

What year is it?

[@pdadv77]

Glad I watched to the end! The Ram annoying chime now remedied with your solution! After building a van years ago I agree with many of your observations. Never needed a bathroom or shower, a power station is now so much simpler (on my new build) and I never installed a sink. Just a jug and a bin. Worked great!

[@bkxc]

You’re doing it right!!

[@collin_fpv]

You can bring your van to the dealer and have them remove the chime for the seatbelt. The owners manuals says so and the dealership tried to tell me they couldn't do it until I showed them the page in the Promasters manual!

[@keving4081]

I found very affordable, easy-to-install (plug & play) led bulbs(high and low) a few years ago for my 2017 Promaster 1500 134" wheelbase. I also installed a 19" light bar mounted above the front license plate. Night driving is no longer painful for this 69-year-old geezer who always had poor eyesight. Sorry, I don't remember the brand. Vermont has very few street lights and the painted road lines are usually worn out. I only use the light bar on the back roads. Excellent video less is more. And never listen to dealer regarding repairs.

[@bkxc]

Yes! I didn't realize the plug and play bulbs exist now. Back when I first got the van they hadn't caught up yet.

[@jenniferrice7877]

we've recently inherited a '14 Ram Promaster 2500, and plan to do just what you've done. hubs dad started a DIY conversion, that we're going to remove and reinstall properly, and go on from there. Thank you for addressing a lot of our concerns, and the pitfalls of promasters (rodent damage suuuuuuuuuuuucks), and giving us a lot to consider as we plan our build. refreshingly honest, and i appreciate that greatly.

[@bkxc]

Very cool!! Glad I gave you some good info

[@OverTheHillMTB]

7yrs into following BKXC, have done numerous mtb trips inspired by your wanderings (and musings), dont really follow any other mtb channels anymore other than STS and Seth occasionally…loved this video, love what you do and why you do it, love that you found love and you keep on aspiring and inspiring….keep the wheels turning (and the water droplets off the GoPro ha! )

[@bkxc]

Hahaha, doing my best to keep the water off the GoPro! Thanks so much for those kind words, dude!

[@rekamniar]

I bet a lot more guys only follow the The MTB Trinity: Seth, BKXC and STS

[@BryceRehder]

Ex Chrysler mechanic here. The company spends all their money on marketing, not quality parts or engineering. If you want to be busy work for Chrysler, if you want to be bored work for Toyota and Honda like I later on did. Out of all the options I bought a Ford Transit ecoboost. Now with two 220k+ mile ecoboost engines I would recommend a standard 3.7L v6 Transit for 90% of van owners. Thanks for the review after all these years! You helped inspire me to build a van and make YT channel with my wife.

[@bkxc]

Haha, that’s great about being “bored” as a mechanic. Awesome that you picked the right van to go on adventures!!

[@DMB-pe8hk]

Can you explain why you wouldn't go with EcoBoost for "most" drivers (and which ones)? I've only heard great things about it, for both mileage and get up and go.

[@patshmear10101]

​@@DMB-pe8hkAll gen 1 (2021 and older in the transits) ecoboosts develop an exhaust leak at the exhaust headers where the turbos hang off due to the studs degrading and breaking over time. Depending on how bad the studs are stuck in there (transits also have a front drainage issue causing water to drip all over, corroding stuff) you're looking at $3-5k to fix. Other than that issue the ecoboosts are worth it imo, unless you're intending on super high mileage

[@DMB-pe8hk]

@patshmear10101 Thank you so much. We'll stick to 2022 or later, then, if we can find an affordable one. We're not sure how much mileage we'll put on it at this point. We've also toyed with the idea of starting with a transit passenger wagon XLT AWD (but pricey!) so that we can keep enough seats to transport our many grandchildren (8 in the area!) and loan to our kids for family trips. Any thoughts on those? Are the mechanics mostly the same, or are they a different bird entirely?

[@patshmear10101]

@@DMB-pe8hk No worries. The drainage issue is easy to fix/avoid (front left and right drains below windshield gets debris in it and blocks draining), google some solutions or ask a dealership for any fix they do with foam to redirect water etc. Regarding a passenger van, they are exactly the same as a cargo but they have more trim and a rear AC compressor (it's small and easily removable if you want). There is however a BIG caveat to converting those. They all come with passenger side airbags (both sides of the vehicle) which go all the way from the front windshield to the back of the van. Each side is all one unit, ie: you cannot just leave the front passenger and driver seat side airbags in and remove the rear passengers. This means when you do your conversion and want to install upper cabinets/do really anything with that space, you have to remove the airbags for safety. Depending on the country/state you live in and your insurance company, they will highly frown upon on the removal of safety equipment. Might cause you trouble in the event of an accident injury claim. To get around this you typically have to go full RV conversion and get your title officially changed to an RV type, then insure as appropriate. Also, you need special plugs (cheap) where your airbags used to plug in to trick the system into thinking the airbags are still connected, else you'll end up with a permanent light on your dash. Also keep in mind, all those windows make a pretty intolerable greenhouse effect in hot climates. You can get insulated window covers but they won't perform as well as insulation + an actual wall. Rather than going with a full on passenger van, Transit also offers a "crew van" variant which is basically a cargo van with a 2-3 seater behind the driver/passenger. This is what I would do if I didn't want to deal with installing seat rails etc. myself. This of course depends on what seating layout you want, you might end up having to do it yourself anyways.

[@donaldlahoda8693]

Find a reputable independent repair shop and stop going to the dealer. You'll save lots of money and get better quality work.

[@bkxc]

Amen to that. The stupid thing is I bought the damn “platinum” oil change package when I bought the vehicle. But that doesn’t mean I can’t just get the free oil change and then go to a shop for service. Sarah recently went to a new place and they gave a really cool detailed report with photos and she was so impressed with every part of the experience.

[@danielmiller1302]

promasters have European nuts, bolts, etc...many mechanics won't work on them, some that do, you wished they hadn't, few, very few can. mechanical shops also if not dealer, take forever to get parts, so down time sucks

[@eighty6gt]

​@@danielmiller1302what

[@daniellipscomb4309]

Yep dealer should only be used for warranty work. There is a reason they are called the stealership!

[@nickcoulter973]

​@@danielmiller1302What?! If your mechanic can't work on something with "European nuts/bolts", you need a new mechanic. Every vehicle I can think of uses internationally sourced components and metric nuts/bolts. Sae went out with the Clinton administration.

[@lindanelson3092]

I just discovered you thru a a Wayfayer link. Shocked at the cost increases on vans since 2020. Very informative video! I’m going to continue to car camp for a while. Looking forward to your future videos to remind me to live intentionally!!

[@bkxc]

Glad to hear that, thanks!

[@The_Wandering_Couple]

I’ve seen so many promaster vanlifers love those things but they are all 2022 or newer . I think they fixed a lot of the issues by 2022 . I’m looking to get a 2024 promaster 3500 159” .

[@bkxc]

That makes sense, newer is always better!

[@grisz1144]

The worse thing that can happen is end up on parent's couch for a couple years. Thank you Brian for that motivational talk :D

[@bkxc]

Hahaha

[@laurenm8561]

This is probably one of my favorite reviews ever! Thanks for taking the time to be transparent and super informative. Sorry about your uncle and congrats on your marriage. You’re right about every moment counts. 🌻🐝🧡

[@bkxc]

Awesome, glad you enjoyed it!

[@narsus73]

I still remember the episode when you met Sarah! I've watched your channel for years, and hope to for many more.

[@bkxc]

Love to hear that!!

[@luism644]

Awesome to see how far you’ve come and where your van has taken you. I’ve been watching your channel since you were riding that Santa Cruz waaaay back, before you bought your first van, before you collaborated with Seth and STS, before you went to Japan, and rode around the world. You were just another guy posting mountain biking videos on youtube. It inspired me and motivated me to get into cycling myself. Cheers man! Another great vid.

[@bkxc]

Love to hear that so much!! Thanks for the kind words

[@johnrichards3666]

I had a bug for years about having an Airstream. After watching a ton of Airstream videos, l lost the bug. Thank God.

[@bkxc]

Haha, nice

[@jetv1471]

😂😂😂😂

[@freerangemtb]

I remember when you first bought the van. I was envious. I don't know if I still have the desire, but back then I wanted to be able to do the vanlife thing. It's just that, I have seven kids, and a van just wouldn't cut it. Also, I had a job that required me to work on-site in my home town. It's getting easier to find remote jobs, now, and many of my kids have grown up and I could now get away with a van. So maybe it's time? My problem is, I'd have to trick it out to the max. I'd also have to get one that I could make sleep at least four people. I don't know if that's possible. If I can say, of all the things that made me smile, seeing that you included your wedding photo at the beginning of this video just brought the biggest smile to me. I'm really happy for you, Brian. I hope you and Sarah continue to have a long and happy life together.

[@bkxc]

Thanks for being along for the ride for so long Brian! I appreciate it so much!

[@themtchannel2110]

my sister's family was too big, too many kids for hotel trips to be practical. kids misbehaving in separate rooms, the cost,... but for them, a smallish RV gave them some years of travel vacations, adventure and lifelong memories. all was good until a transmission failure far from home, followed by crap garage etc basically ended that era.

[@freerangemtb]

@@themtchannel2110the only thing stopping me from getting a small RV is the job aspect. I'm looking for more remote opportunities, so that could be a thing of the past soon. A small RV, that maybe sleeps 6, could work.

[@stephenschuit7880]

We bought a used 2019, 2500 Promaster that had already been built-out at Wayfarer. The build was similar to yours. My wife and I drove cross-country and back from Maine over 7-months. We covered 14,000 miles and 40-states-all during Covid. Some of the best adventure-time we've ever shared together. I agree completely with your idea to add a rear window over the bed area. Also, getting a good lithium battery for your accessories. I'm thinking of doing it again. I might go with the 1500, and size-down a tiny bit, and go with the newer Wayfarer builds which look even better than before. There's nothing quite as great as having your independence out on the highway.

[@bkxc]

That is awesome, love hearing you got some great adventure out of your van!!

[@ericivy8888]

Fellow promaster owner here (4 years, 55K) and occasional MTB'r and have watched some of your videos over the years and took some of your advice (for van stuff & Bentonville trails) Thanks for doing what ya do!

[@bkxc]

Love to hear that! thanks

[@thomasboard7350]

brian is a huge inspiration to me. i was still new to MTB when i started to watching his videos in early covid, since then ive ridden tons of cool spots including sedona, santa cruz, whistler, big bear, and the sierras. im 10/50 into my 50 state shred!

[@bkxc]

That is just too cool!!

[@matta2109]

It’s been quite a journey watching all your van videos and all the places it has taken you. I can’t believe that the 50 state shred happened a few years ago. Time just keeps doing it’s thing. I love watching your videos Bryan, keep up the good work!

[@bkxc]

Time absolutely flies!!

[@18cjosh]

I replaced the headlights on my 2019 with and LED conversion kit. Worked great!

[@bkxc]

Fantastic! I honestly hadn’t looked into it for a couple years, I should have done better research on that point.

[@18cjosh]

That’s the one I used! I upgraded the fogs as well and it’s a different vehicle at night. We lived in ours for a year with my wife and now 7 year old traveling North America and mountain biking. I hated and refused night driving until we made the changes.

[@intensecycleboy]

Came here for a van build and Brian's character explanations of his gear. Got some well worded philosophy on life. Well done.

[@bkxc]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jonmarshall1502]

I’m going overseas next year, taking a year out from the daily drag of work. But I’m already thinking about what I’ll do when I return home, and something like a van was something I was considering. So this is a handy eye opener and I’m rethinking. Keep up the good work Brian.

[@bkxc]

Very cool Jon!! Hope it all works out.

[@danielheller6430]

Had a promaster. Could not get rid of it soon enough. Ran fine for 45,000 or so miles. Then one thing after another started going wrong. Would list all that went wrong with it but that would take to much to do. Ended up trading it in (could not in good conscience sell it to any person) (at a huge loss I might add) for a new ford transit van. 73,000 mile on it now. Only maintenance costs have been routine maintenance. The one bright spot I was able to take the wayfarer installation in the promaster and altered it to fit in my ford.

[@jjcastleberry3662]

Damn Son, 75K miles and the engine gives out? I'm still driving my Ford 2001, E-150 (V8 330 CID) conversion van with 199,032 miles. I've spent $$$ maintaining her over the years. Same engine and auto transmission. All these years and still no oil spots on the driveway.

[@solovantravel]

Yeah... E-150 is a creep van... It is funny how and who makes the comparison though

[@Nicholas-qd4lw]

I haven't rode in years, college got in the way and I've outgrown my bike, but I remember watching every single one of your videos after school back in 2019-2020. I must say watching you and seeing how the van has held up was very nostalgic

[@bkxc]

That's too cool! Glad I could bring back some great memories!

[@KellsSmith1244]

I’m going to inherit just enough money to buy a new van to live in and I this is the one I want. I like the small nose. I’ll be an old lady traveling alone following a dream from 1977, way before van life was a trend. I want new because half the country has flooded.

[@bkxc]

Sounds awesome!

[@Drmikekuna]

Thanks you so much for this video. You are singing my song! In 2018 I bought a Promaster strictly because I heard about Wayfarer. My van was bought new, but on a special for around 27K. Then, the Wayfarer conversion was a bit over 8K. I was reluctant to spend that much (who knew how much both would cost in the future). I also drove to Colorado and had the kit installed in the morning as I toured Garden of the Gods using Ian's minivan (mini truck) to get there. I have really liked the conversion, which is solid, but had the same complaint about the sink. I never used it as I had campers before and never wanted to deal with grey water. I also use a spray bottle (vinegar) for dishes, and use wipes, and sponge baths for me when I can't access a shower. No one has complained. You can't keep pretty clean using non-traditional methods. Every year I manage to find something to upgrade. Two years ago I upgraded the sound system with a Kenwood head unit and speakers. Like you, I'm not blown away with the sound, but I like the higher quality camera view (I had to replace the rear camera with a better one), Airplay, and the unit also gave me onboard GPS when I'm out of cellular range. This last summer my friend and I took out the kitchen (I gave it away to another Wayfarer) and built a new one that completely removed the sink and added a drawer for an induction burner and a cabinet for a small microwave. I agree completely with the idea of going with a power station (solar generator). I started with a Yeti 1250-which worked for the basics. I now have a Pecron E3000 which gives me 3KW (naturally, I have a lot of solar, etc). It is powerful enough for me to use the induction hotplate, the microwave, and even a small electric pressure cooker. Naturally, one at a time with careful monitoring of the sun (for the panels) and the time used on the appliance. For instance, I use the microwave for 4-6 minutes at a time. I sort of have a window regret. I put one on the side slide, which is a must when backing out. Sometimes I wish I put one on the driver's side too. Not a huge deal. I do have rain guards and can open my front windows. That seems to work OK for ventilation. Everything you said about the positives of owning the van are so true. There is nothing like being exhausted and having the option of pulling into a rest stop and sleep (for hours or overnight). When I drive somewhere I always have what I need with me. The weather changed and getting cold? No problem, I have a coat in the van. I'm starving and the only restaurant that I can find looks like it is in need of a health inspection? I have a whole kitchen right in the back! Etc. Would I spend 50K for a new van and 20K for a build-out? Hmm, that would be tough for me, but that is just me. Again, thank you for your very nice video.

[@bkxc]

Great to hear about your journey and how you changed things up along the way!

[@paultruesdale7680]

Thanks Man, you're going to be my new uncle Dennis. Superb video by the way.

[@philc.9280]

Just happened to randomly catch this video come across my screen. It was of interest to me as we just recently purchased a 2023 Travato on a 3500 Ram Promaster chassis. They fixed most of the issues you mentioned plus I do all of my own maintenance. This is my fourth RV in 30 years and I plan to keep this for a long time. I was curious to see how others feel about the van after 100 K miles. So far so good.

[@bkxc]

Awesome, that’s great to hear you’re so dedicated to the RV life! Hope it all works out for you.

[@travis5481]

I dont know if you have room, but we have the Dometic CFX fridge/freezer thing - it's amazing. We weren't sure we would want a freezer compartment, but it has been so useful. There are so many wonderful frozen options for quick meals on longer trips, and we can prep frozen meals ahead.

[@bkxc]

I believe it! Having a big ole fridge would be really nice.

[@Roaming50]

I've been taking a year (or so) off from mountain biking for various reasons but aim to get back into again this year. My Winnebago Revel that I bought to take to me all 48 states, a bit like you, has been languishing for the last year. I felt bad for it; almost considered selling it, but it is all paid off and there are many years of adventure to go. Always planned to have the van for 10 years (that was my goal - travel all 50 states in my 50s - I'll be 54 this year so still technically got 6 years to cover the remaining 33 states) so I can't actually imagine living without it. The freedom the van gives is hard to deny. What you stated about taking a rest anywhere, having everything with you and just being able to park up and cook some food can't be beat. When I think about going back to a car and renting a place to stay - that probably would've been cheaper - but its not as empowering, So I keep it.

[@bkxc]

Love hearing the story and love even more that you're getting out there!

[@Reddingadventurehub]

The van was a smart call. Always love having a home base in my travels. I run a truck and camper setup which works well for hauling my kayak trailer.

[@bkxc]

Yeah, I’m really, really glad! I didn’t even talk about how it totally enabled me to do the entire Everstoke project. I’d be camping in a damn tent week after week and that would not have been fun.

[@WhiteBirdMustFly2]

9,000 to 20,000? I’m paying off my same 2020 Van, at 15,000 left. To owe more for a conversion, as old as this is? I think I just need a bed across the back. In Arizona, I saw 2 kinds of mice, and one got inside, it had drowned in a bucket of water half full, where it drowned. I learned from a neighbor, to use a small dollar tree black handled bucket, to set a small foam food tray with any mouse food on it, they slip in to get the food, then can’t get back out. They said don’t put poisons in that they carry back, and die in your walls.

[@stuartkorte1642]

Great update. Confirmed this is the van and setup for my needs. Material $2000, CNC time $200, labor $2000, overhead $1000=$5200. Sad they changed from basic kit for $9k to a basic kit for $20k. I guess two sells a month are better than 15 a month.

[@robadair]

I live in a 2016 Sprinter about half the year. No regrets on my choice of vehicle or my self-build. While I have different opinions on some of your points (such as van electrical systems), the beauty of custom builds is you can tailor your van to fit your specific needs.

[@bkxc]

Most definitely!

[@kevinmartin6679]

all I could think of during this video was Ricky Bobby. " I don't know what to do with my hands". lol. loved the video. Great job. going to watch more now.

[@DMB-pe8hk]

True, whoever told him to keep them up and flapping incessantly when filming, steered him wrong!

[@netposerx]

Been loving my Promaster. Started my build towards the end of 2017. And yeah, nobody knows exactly what they want in campervan. We all learn and grow each road trip. I wish my bed was higher so I could put bikes inside but my rack works great. I wish my Kuat swing arm swung out to the driver's side. I've upgraded my solar/electric system a few times and continue to swap components as they get cheaper and better. But the best part is I have a rolling apartment. I can throw a few things in the van, put my bikes on the rack and take of to go ride for a few days or a few weeks. Next up is Starlink so working on the road will be much better.

[@bkxc]

Yes, I absolutely love having EVERYTHING with me. Just doesn't matter where I am when I'm on the road, I've got it all!

[@netposerx]

@@bkxc Yup, takes so much stress out of getting to the trail head. You know you just drive to the trail head and everything you need is with you.

[@jg2wheels]

When shopping for my van, I excluded Promasters and Transits from my search. Chevy Express or Ford E-Series for solid reliability.

[@ajbook6802]

17,000 dollars is almost the same as a new mountain bike? I serious hope no one is spending that much on a mountain bike

[@h82fail]

The price of two new mountain bikes.

[@twiki1963]

Very niece video. Thanks for the honesty. You’ve reminded me of things I already know about life… but we can all use a reminder. 17:07 - Why are you twisting it that way? That’s not how the RAM works. Loosen the screw and find a good position. Suction cup lets you position it anywhere (even high up) that one of those dash-mounted units can’t do.

[@virgiljones7277]

Love this video! 6 1/2 years ago I sold everything, business-home-etc. I built out a van and hit the road with my bicycle. I’ve ridden my bike all over North America. No regrets!

[@bkxc]

Wow, that is really great to hear!! Right on

[@Raykenn1]

I had a engine melt down at about 68,000 miles. Though out of warranty, Chrysler has a crisis claim program to address premature faults. They covered all repairs except the labor. Enjoyed your video thanks for posting 👍

[@bkxc]

Wow, I didn't know that one!

[@Adam6224x]

Hey Brian, honestly I don't like your biking videos so much. But this kind of content I really love. Especially when you become philosophical. And man, the time flyes! I remember you purchasing the van just a "few months ago"...

[@bonnierodger7719]

That was awesome, thank you. Unfortunately, we found black mold in our used 2014 Sprinter. I had no choice but to gut it and start over. The bank still wants it’s monthly payment on a $80K loan. Even though our van is always under construction (a hot mess), we take trips everywhere. Yes! I love it! Happy New Year and God bless.

[@bkxc]

Wow!! That’s brutal. Makes you realize how much you have to make sure the van gets aired out and can dry out.

[@jetv1471]

Hugs to you guys

[@wanderfully4724]

This was the review of the PM I needed to see.. out of frustration of lack of transits available I was thinking “how bad can a ram be?” And you got my head right again. Not because the vehicle is a train wreck.. but tbh all the nitpicky ram BS would have me regretting quickly. I am not used to them and I think I would be disappointed by a lot of it. As for the WF build, (the whole reason I found your channel even tho we bike) I think the wear and tear is reasonable. And the 20k price increase also comes with quite a few advancements than the old model. Admittedly not 11k worth, but still.. it’s not just a same for same with $11k increase. Great video, much appreciated!

[@bkxc]

Glad I was able to help you out!!

[@phthisics]

You don't need a toilet. But with luck you'll get older and wind up having to pee at three am. Every. Single. Night. Then you'll get a toilet. Helps with boondocking too of course. We also have a shower and almost never use it but if you have a bathroom with a toilet and a flip down sink--0as we do in our 136" Promaster just like yours, adding the shower capability to that doesn't take up any more space. Ours is a Carado Axion. It's what you'll want when you're an old coot and still getting out there. One more thing. Especially since you flog your Promaster, I highly recommend a KZbin channel run by a repair show owner in Ohio who only works on Promasters, so his channel is called Promasters Only. Lots of good advice for the Promaster part of your rig. You might also consider getting Sumo Shocks. Not expensive, improve the ride/dealing with how semis push you around, and add about an inch to your ground clearance.

[@bkxc]

I've got a jug for the late night urination! Great info, thanks!

[@jetv1471]

Good info ty !

[@crjmoto]

Thanks for the update BK. Every time I talk myself out of buying a fancy new van I'm so grateful for my old Ford Econoline. I've got to give it a bit of a refresh and hang on to it for a while - no payment and so functional. But someday I'll get that upgrade...

[@bkxc]

That is fantastic, glad you're SQUEEZING every mile out of your van!

[@ShakespeareCafe]

Don’t ever let your battery go bad. Your key will get stuck in the ignition. Mice can squeeze into the smallest space. Totally depends on how you drive it. I drive my 118” up to Truckee and the Lost Sierra and the transmission handles the steep downgrades with absolute precision. I rarely have to tap the brakes. The V6 charges up steep grades when you need the power the most. You have total command of the road with great visibility and oversized side mirrors. Don’t discount the 118” wb model. It’s capacious inside and much easier to park. Install a sunroof in back over a fan, then you can remove the glass and stand up with infinite headroom. I couldn’t imagine driving a tall roof version which has got to feel like a Uhaul. Also, the best rack you can get is the Alurack which installs easily on the 6 factory roof pegs, no drilling required. I haul my canoe and kayak and can access cargo on it from inside the van with a step stool through the sunroof. If you want an exhaust fan install it in the rear. I use a Dewalt fan to blow air out. The 118 is like driving the Scooby Van or some retro 70s Dodge, get it!

[@barkerapts6550]

The absolute best video I've seen about Van life. Honest and well presented. Great job!

[@bkxc]

Wow, thanks so much!

[@Glomly]

Sink stink can be helped with some plumbing. Some pipes and a plumbing vent(P trap and air admittance valve). It's like a $50-100 to DIY and a $500-$1000 to hire someone else to do it. It won't help with cleaning stinky tanks, but it will keep the stinky air inside the tank.

[@LanceEJones]

Wise words in your conclusion…live to the point of tears!

[@JoeCincotta307]

Such a huge fan of yours. Feels like you’re a long lost friend. Wishing you all the best in 2024. Much love from Long Island NY.

[@bkxc]

Thanks so much for that Joe!!

[@srameypr]

Great video! Very thoughtful comments at the end. I have another 18 month before I can retire and get out there. Can't wait!

[@alexballew]

I CANNOT believe this engine required a rebuilt at only 75K miles. That is wild to me. RAM is the worst for that. So sorry you had to deal with that. If and when I get a large cargo van, I'll probably go with the Ford Transit. But you know, I really wish Toyota would break into this market. Then we'd have a cargo van we could trust would last. Some people import 25 year old Toyota Hiace Vans into the states, but they come with their own pros and cons too. Anyway, best of luck!

[@bkxc]

Yep, I’d love for a bulletproof Toyota van!!

[@AdventureOtaku]

Yeah, unless it is under warranty there is no reason to go to a dealer. And this isnt the first time I have heard about an engine rebuild on a way too young pro master.

[@robvanduren761]

Does having a Toyota badge on the front of your van make it more reliable ? . I brought a Chinese LDV [Maxxus] Deliver 9 van and its been fault free for 3 years. Legacy auto makers are for people who live in the past centuries

[@alexballew]

@@robvanduren761 Yes, having a Toyota badge in general gives me more faith that it will be more reliable. Not just because of an emblem, but because of my car ownership history and experience with Toyota compared to other makers. Prime example: a RAM engine failing after 75K miles. That would never happen with Toyota unless you did zero upkeep.

[@niq872]

@@robvanduren7613 years? that's the bare minimum

[@srdamman]

The philosophical aspect, yes! Enjoyed hearing about the van experience intertwined with the MTB / lifestyle piece.

[@Neuromanager]

You have been a positive and very different inspiration since I first started to watch "vanlife" (2019??) to learn and immerse into panel vans. This video follows the same positive, enriching pattern. So much to learn about so many of all those little big things. All very positive. Thank you.

[@bkxc]

Awesome, love hearing that!!

[@microgreensgrower3946]

When my husband was in the market for a van to build it was easy to cross of the list of potential vans; the Ram Promaster. People have had nothing but trouble with them. He ended up with a Ford Transit used with 15,000 miles on it. He's really happy with it.

[@phthisics]

Fleet owners say the Transit and Promaster cost of ownership over hundreds of thousands of miles is comparable. "Nothing but trouble" is a wild exaggeration. The trick is not to thrash them, because then you get a thrashed van. Keep your cruising speed to 65mph max and dont floor the throttle and hammer the tranny and it'll last,

[@k.pacificnw02134]

Ive been living in a 2023 ProMaster for 7 months now. Insulated only with copious fabric and tapestries. Had a bunk/parking heater installed in it.

[@bkxc]

Nice!

[@MamaBearTravel]

I LOVE this video! I've been wanting to hit the road and explore now that my kids are grown, but I've struggled with feeling like I shouldn't....that I'm being a little crazy. Well, I bought a shorty bus, had it built out and then sold it an never went anywhere with it. I've now bought a Ford Transit Medium roof 130 wheel base and I'm doing a "minor" buildout in it. I'm definitely going to try this one out and if I like it, I'll go full time and see the U.S.! Thank you for commenting on the "plug n play" with the self contained power packs. I actually got a Jackery 1500 and that's what I'm going to use with solar panels that I'll have to set out for now to recharge. Eventually I'll get a couple panels for the roof. Thanks for the "push" to just try it! I'm IN!! 🙂

[@bkxc]

That's awesome!! Enjoy it!

[@meadmaker4525]

You never really think about the drive train warranty (5yrs/60K miles) on a van like this...until it fails and they tell you the entire engine needs to be replaced...at your cost, because it's 15K out of warranty. There's just no excuse for that. Nowadays, given how far modern engines have come, you should see 200-300K out of a gas engine before you start to have major issues. I really like the look and setup of the Promaster compared to the Ford Transit or GMC Savanna, but hearing about complete engine failure at 75K is one of those things that would make me think twice before buying one. That and the front seat adjustment paddles have to be the weirdest thing I've ever seen in a car or truck. I'd definitely pay for electric adjustment if they offered it (which they don't).

[@bkxc]

Haha, yeah the seat adjustment stuff is silly. I suppose they can't warranty an engine forever, but it is brutal when it fails so close to the warranty.

[@beyond-x]

My Chevy Express that I got with 90k miles and built into a camper is going strong except it eats front wheel bearings for breakfast. Would love a new van but you could stay 800+ nights in really nice hotels for the cost!

[@bkxc]

Exactly!! You've done really well with your van!

[@tonyellis6383]

Just did my first test ride on my new Ibis RIpley XT, it was awesome. Decided on an Ibis years ago after watching your channel, much appreciated, thanks.

[@bkxc]

Love to hear it!

[@abstraddic0442]

Great video B !!! Lol .. I still remeber when you weren't even sure about quiting your day job to do Yourube Damn, You came a long way dude in a pretty short time. Thanks for letting us all come along. This shit has been incredible !!! 💯👍

[@bkxc]

Thanks for being along for the ride the whole time!

[@jmdrstv]

I also got a van in October of 19 but I wanted a 4x4 so went with a Sprinter. Having just had a problematic Dodge truck I was over Chrysler at the moment. It’s insane how much more they are now….mine was 53k…now more like 90k. My largely diy build is also very basic and has been good for all of the same reasons as yours. I did add a $30 Reliance folding toilet for those emergencies and it has been an invaluable bail out, takes up very little space and worth having on board. I thought 4x4 would come in handy, and it has been much more useful than expected. From snow, mud, distant trailheads, and boat launching I use it all of the time. I’m just shy of 80k miles and no major issues so far but about 2million minor recalls. Dealer service is ridiculously expensive but I have stuck with it for perceived benefits of resale. I did however switch dealers and the service is better and almost half the cost. For me no regrets at all except for the rattles…so many RATTLES! Recently spent some time chasing them down and it’s so much quieter. Should have done it sooner.

[@bkxc]

Sarah did add the fold up toilet recently and it has already saved me twice! Not super easy to set up in full panic mode, but it does the job. Love hearing that you did so well with your van! Amen about the rattles. I could spend quite a while tracking them all down.

[@jmdrstv]

@bkxc my roof fan was a LOT of the noise, but once it got quiet I could hear a bunch of lesser rattles!

[@nicolaihilckmann4677]

I built my camper van on a Ford E-450 frame and a 7.3L diesel engine. The van was salvage and cost me the price of the vehicle transfer. The engine doesn't have any electronics, so it's easy to work on and less prone to failures. Parts are plentiful, easily aquired, and are reasonably priced, even in the smallest of towns.

[@bkxc]

That’s awesome! Bulletproof!

[@dswaggins2464]

Man the dealer will bend you over every single time. I don’t know what engine you have but the 5.7 and 3.6 are everywhere used

[@roberttemme6162]

Inspiring Brian. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'm retiring in about 3 years so I'm thinking about doing this. All the best to you, Sarah and your family in 2024!

[@bkxc]

Thanks so much!

[@stevenwrieth9399]

So I basically work on strictly promasters at my dodge dealer and I will say the trans flush is something that would be very believable and worth it because the transmission in the promaster is the same that’s in a Pacifica or caravan and they are designed for the smaller vehicles. Not for heavy load and that’s the downfall other than that they’re decently solid.

[@bl4509]

you have to live the dash! the begining and end are singular times in your life, but the dash is what makes a life well lived!

[@bkxc]

Amen brother!

[@carlosvasques5776]

Same here, mine blow at 74k miles and the casing of the transmission broke some mounting bolts ; now I’m waiting for the electric van pro master , which is a collaboration with Toyota so probably good stuff.

[@bkxc]

Ugh!!! Brutal

[@caeciliusmetellus3038]

Very nice to see that the Fiat Ducato is now running in US. Greetings from Germany. And you have really a fair price on the camper van. In Germany you would pay more than 90.000 EUR for Car and installation

[@danielkemmet2594]

Dude your story and your van are really cool and It was a happy little suprise to learn about Wayfarer vans. I'm plotting a year or two to travel the country and seeing something like this is starting to make a van a more appealing option.

[@bkxc]

Very cool!

[@willcruz7457]

I have a 2017 159 2500, with 187,xxx miles on it. I do most of my own maintenance on it and haven't had anything that wasn't self inflicted. I hit a deer and had to replace some stuff on the front. I also damaged my brakes by hitting a deep snowbank in Wyoming. One thing I've noticed recently is that I just started getting that engine tick sound. So I'm hoping to get that fixed before it becomes an issue. The headlights are ass. I have had them both go out on me in the middle of the night during a blizzard. Swapping them out during that is awful. I'm not sure if it makes a difference but I drive with tow/haul engaged at all times. I also drive like a grandma. Slow to brake, slow to accelerate

[@BourbonEnthusiast]

Alex, The Singletrack "Grandma Drivin'" Sampler who "Lives Free, Rides Hard, and Gets Stoked!" Love it.

[@bkxc]

Hahahaha yep!

[@lucky.origins]

Been here since the Pots and Pans days. Still running my 4 qt boiler you recommended.

[@bkxc]

Hahaha, LOVE IT!!

[@BlacqueJacqueShellacque_]

It's a Fiat. That part is terrifying. Probably would go with the Ford if I went new today. A camper van is almost never a good financial decision, but not every decision has to be a "good" one (YOLO). Happy you have enjoyed this. Also you're uncle sounds like mine (who also passed recently). That guy was put on this earth to have as much fun as possible. After he retired he would travel all over the place to fly fish. Hoping to follow in his footsteps once I retire.

[@claverhouse1]

It was a Fiat, then it was turned into shit by being "Americanised"

[@bkxc]

You’re so right about having fun! Responsible folks gotta remind themselves to get irresponsible sometimes!

[@MTBD80]

Pick your posion. My friend has a Ford Transit and his transmission has been slipping. Dealer quoted 10k for a new transmission and many weeks for a leadtime.

[@MarkoPetejan]

It's a Fiat, yes, except the engine, because the European engine is too weak for Americans. On the other hand, on this side of the pond, no one wants Ford, the main reason being.... the engine. Go figure...

[@maxmxl]

Are you sure the engine is fiat? Usually the best part of a fiat is the engine! And it's beacause it's well built.

[@jrldude8719]

Thanks for the review. Those price increases are criminal. No excuses- simply criminal.

[@bkxc]

They must have people willing to pay, so more power to them!

[@joeblow1942]

It’s inflation. Thank the government for “printing” trillions.

[@DMB-pe8hk]

It's that van life has caught on. Cars have gone up but not nearly as much. Since RVs are made so badly, vans are the new RV. If the RV industry had to answer to the same standards as cars, trucks, and vans, the price of vans would go down.

[@tommyoptions4421]

What a great video this was. Thanks for the inspiration, I am going to get a van!

[@bkxc]

Love to hear it!

[@reallytho99]

1:36 How am I supposed to watch the video now with tears in my eyes

[@diamondly6250]

I'm finally out of collage and I can finally can start saving up that last bit for a van. My goal is to have it by the end of the year and slowly work on it next year, ill likely take it on a some week long camping trips here and there until its good enough. just like you said with your loss, I lost my dad and he had a lot of regrets because he everyone was telling him how to live. i do not want to make that mistake and i know if i dont do this ill regret it for the rest of my life.

[@jbrizzysf]

Needed this video. Was at so many dealers looking at vans but was starting to get cold feet. Thanks for the nudge!

[@bkxc]

Nice! Glad to hear it.

[@Bubba24-ne4zp]

Don't buy a Dodge/Chrysler

[@RWmoose]

That's the main reason why I decided to go with a truck camper... If your truck dies you can just change the truck and not lose your investment in the camper... But there's also no ideal setup you have to choose the one that works best for your lifestyle!

[@bkxc]

Most definitely! I just love the idea of being able to stand up to change! But I guess some of the big truck campers have that as well.

[@Mike-vd2qt]

Great video, full of thoughts and incites for on the road. Q: If you don't have shower, toilet, large frig, and stove, why not use a Toyota Tundra with a slide-in camper? The Toyota V-8 engines are dependable. Loved your thoughts at the end of video, since retirement I've bicycle toured across the U.S. twice, the EU once, rode half of the GDMBR at 68. Another Divide attempt this summer 2024 at 70. Get out there folks, even if stuff hurts and you're slow. Happy trails!

[@bkxc]

The slide in camper is a pretty cool idea! I don't think I would be able to fit my bikes inside, though.