100% Consistent Keyes Flood Bump Tutorial for Halo CE / CEA / MCC

[@slatchey]

This is incredibly detailed and I really appreciate that you added every bit of info to make the trick foolproof. Time to try it myself

[@Wishengrad]

Good luck! I intentionally left my keyboard sound in there so you can hear the timing for skipping the cutscene. :)

[@gameragingstorytelling]

Took me maybe 4 tries then I got it! Thanks for being straight to the point

[@Wishengrad]

Of course! :)

[@Falcoriders]

It's working with controllers. Let the left stick up, stay on "yes", hit quickly 3 or 4 times A and then Y to cut the cutscene. Worked with an orange grunt.

[@burge117]

Holy crap it worked. Cheers dude. ❤

[@Wishengrad]

Glad to have helped! :D

[@spk814]

the first time I ran legendary sub 2 hours this trick took me hours, got it on my third try using your video, great tutorial.

[@Wishengrad]

Glad it helped! :)

[@setoinenrikkihappo5823]

You just saved me like an hour of raging and playing. Am i not supposed to praise you as a god?

[@Wishengrad]

I'm just a person! :P

[@foxmannor6969]

@@Wishengrada hero

[@Evelyn-96]

Very hard plasma pistol but assault rifle was easy for me, thanks for vid speedruner keyes level ^^

[@alexmay6707]

trying to do this at the moment but everytime the flood gets up i just stand on top of them

[@Wishengrad]

Somehow I missed this, sorry. It means that it was too close to the wall. Reposition where you are from the wall scratch.

[@Wishengrad]

0:00 Introduction + Tips/Settings 0:50 Goal/Process of Making it Consistent 1:16 Setting Up the RNG Manipulation 1:53 Luring the Flood Buddy for the Bump 2:10 Setting Up the Flood Bump 2:50 ***Where to Stand*** 3:03 You Did It! NOTES: 1. If you jump when restarting the mission, you were mashing space too slowly. If you just get the cutscene, you mashed it too quickly. 2. If you don't get pushed through the wall, it means you need to change your positioning on the dead body or maybe you knocked it down too far away from the wall. You can try closer to the splotch instead of the gray line, but don't go too far or the trick will not work. 3. Make sure you hit the checkpoints after the bump. The rest of the level you continue as normal. I would recommend killing all the A-pose enemies and taking the plasma grenades. Swap the AR for the Shotgun. 4. This works on all versions of the game though skipping the cutscene is very precise on all older versions of Halo CE. 5. The plasma pistol overcharge is amazing for running by all the elites. You can finish the level under 2 minutes this way. EDIT: Co-Op NOTES (copied from HaloRuns Discord): Player 2 (non-host) starts holding W and SPACE. Keep holding until the manip is completed. Player 1 (host) restarts the level. Player 2 continues holding W and SPACE. Player 1 opens the menu again to restart the level stopping at the Yes/No option. Hold ESC, W, and SPACE. CLICK Yes then a split second later release ESC and SPACE, still holding W. If you jump the manip is messed up and you need to start over. Player 1 holds W down the entire hallway without pressing any other keys or moving the mouse. Player 2 holds W and SPACE until jumping twice, then releases SPACE while still holding W. Once you see the grunt the manip is over and you can play normally. You MUST restart level twice to do the manip because Player 2 can carry over momentum from the previous restart that will mess up the manip.

[@craig909]

Question… do the graphics HAVE to be stuttery / laggy to know the manipulation worked? Every time I’ve tried the graphics have stayed smooth. Thanks for the video!

[@craig909]

Just answered my own question. I got it work, and had zero stuttering.

[@therealthirst8099]

Does this work while playing the CE Legendary playlist?

[@Wishengrad]

Yup! No skulls are enabled.

[@Devin7Eleven]

Doesn't matter how fast I press spacebar. I always end up jumping.

[@Wishengrad]

Are you in anniversary? Usually easier to not jump if you are.

[@XFerginatorX]

I think i might be doing something wrong. My select on controller is A but skip cutscene is Y. Does that matter? I hold left stick up and smash A 4 times but nothing happens. I assume i need to press A mash Y instead?

[@XFerginatorX]

Interestingly, it seems to have worked, not sure. But I got it not only to be a revivor but but somehow I manipulated a second checkpoint on the way to the bump spot the flood was too far behind and I think the door closed on it as the flood was chasing me and it triggered the checkpoint or that i got far enough away after door closed and then reopened when the flood tried to run away but the flood still chased me as I fired near it and then brought it to the spot. After 3 tried revive attempts and revert to last checkpoint I got the bump to work. Idk how I did that or if it even worked or if it was just a normal flood and different reverts swapped it out with the right one but it was awesome 👌 😅 😂

[@mediocregameplays6612]

Genuinely can’t get the damn flood to die with one plasma pistol charge. He just recoils and runs back into me.

[@Wishengrad]

That means you're messing up the reviver manipulation.

[@OriginalPuro]

I still don't know what a "flood bump" is and what it does.

[@Wishengrad]

The Flood enemy bumps you through the wall at the start when it revives. It skips the entire level. The trick makes it a guaranteed reviver (makes it stand back up to push you through the wall, otherwise it just stays dead and you have to restart the level). The rest of the video is about where you should be positioned for it to bump you through the wall since it's a little precise.

[@randomstuffforfunny]

Some reason my flood won't get up

[@Wishengrad]

@@randomstuffforfunny It means you aren't manipulating the reviver properly. There is another method I've posted in the comments to make it easier. Try that! Look at the responses of people having the same question as you.

[@rover4536]

I find it easier to use the AR and then a overcharge

[@Wishengrad]

Do whatever works best for you! This is the method I've always used. I use the plasma pistol all the way to the end too whereas most runners drop it for the shotgun

[@ItIsInFactMe]

I have tried 207 times, of those 207 times only 4 have been revivers. I have done everything to the exact pixel including restarting my damn game. Is my luck really just that shit?

[@Wishengrad]

The issue is likely you aren't skipping the cutscene on frame 1. I am not sure why, but MCC has been less consistent with that on anniversary graphics since a few updates from after I made this video. If you can skip the cutscene on classic graphics without jumping, it's completely consistent. Alternate method: Load into the level after you gain control of Chief. Hold escape and spacebar after pausing. Click on restart level and keep holding escape + spacebar. When you hit yes, the game will black screen and you will be paused. Hit restart level again while still holding escape and spacebar. This time, there is a revert checkpoint in the next pause menu. Just hold W and click on yes from revert and that should be frame 1.

[@ItIsInFactMe]

@@Wishengrad I have done this as well, I've tried every guide possible both old and new and it will not work. it is consistently a reviver when I'm testing killing it around where it spawns, but it never is once I'm at the bump spot. I got it to be a reviver 100% of the time when I kill it where it spawns, but never when it's at the bump spot despite not changing what im doing at all

[@Wishengrad]

@@ItIsInFactMe Few things: Are campaign customizations off? Skulls off? Try the methods with anniversary on and anniversary off. I find that anniversary on is an issue now.

[@ItIsInFactMe]

@@Wishengrad no skulls, customization is off and I'e tried half in anniversary and half in classic as well as shifting between the 2 to no avail.

[@JacobC1253]

Did this get broken with the latest update?

[@Wishengrad]

Supposedly the manipulation did. :( The cutscene lags longer or something is what the HaloRuns Discord has been saying. It is known though, so it should be fixed in a hotfix.

[@Wishengrad]

It's fixed now!

[@maximkeane4263]

I’m ding this on LASO would it work

[@Wishengrad]

Yeah, I did this on LASO co-op but the setup to guarantee the reviver won't work. You can still restart the level and try multiple times until it is a reviver though. :)

[@yes3330]

That’s crazy 😜

[@pheonix8167]

I fucking hate this my flood keep teleport not me

[@anotheraccount4776]

This make 0 sense

[@Wishengrad]

Sorry. Try asking a productive question.

[@PinkSpaceDinosaur]

GOATED GUIDE! This is the ONLY guide that was able to help me, just did Keyes Bump for my first time ever and even though it was a little sloppy I got a 3:22 which blows my old 16:07 out of the water! THANK YOU SO MUCH

[@Wishengrad]

Yay! Of course! Glad I could help!

[@sledge7106]

I've had better luck with the shield 💀

[@PinkSpaceDinosaur]

@@sledge7106 I'm sorry bro but I'm taking this over pixel perfect positioning any day of the week

[@inkayinkington]

You are so thorough and explained what is important and isn't (which is often missing in these guides). Thank you so much!

[@Wishengrad]

Of course! :)

[@axelnz_]

The restart timing trick was a little off on my pc, but i got it to work in the end, cheers!

[@SircooksAlott]

Works on series s MCC, the cutscene still plays but holding up on the left stick and pressing A 4 times quickly did force spawn a reviver and red grunt for me.

[@Wishengrad]

It works on original Xbox too! Just have to be fast!

[@keyransolo]

Sweet 😊

[@davidshields2794]

Unfortunately, I've tried 30 or so attempts. Even if I get the red grunt, it's not a reviver. Guessing it's been broken by a update.

[@Wishengrad]

I did it less than a week ago multiple times back to back. You're not getting the right frame. Try the pause buffer method. 1. Hold escape and start after loading in 2. Keep holding escape and start, and restart mission. 3. You'll instant pause again. Then there's a revert checkpoint button available. Let go of escape and do that option while holding forward. That guarantees the proper tick.

[@Cactusj4ck_]

Thanks bro i tried to do this on my own and it took me an hour to do it while after your video i did it first time ❤

[@Wishengrad]

I'm glad you got it first try! :D

[@gtnumble6715]

why does the body consistently fall to the right and the infection form on the body is always out of reach for me. Why?

[@Wishengrad]

Like when you shoot it, it bounces off to the right? Try aiming for the top of the head. You can also kill it by just tap firing with the AR which will also cause it to fall backwards. If it helps, the scratch I line up with at 2:12, try going to the right of it very slightly. I found that works a bit better as a lineup.

[@EdrianPelicano-h4z]

Is this works in the classic halo ce the 2003?

[@Wishengrad]

@@EdrianPelicano-h4z It does! The lineup might be a little different for the clip through the wall depending on the aspect ratio you are playing at. When playing 16:9, it stretches your cross hair unless you are using the Chimera mod.

[@stikyyt9117]

well i guess i glitched him on the other side

[@Wishengrad]

That means he is too close to the wall.

[@janoycresva919]

Got it in first attempt (Novemeber 2023 PC Halo MCC Steam) Guess i was lucky lol Thx for the help

[@slim1313]

I tried this method, and it is not working for me.

[@Wishengrad]

Takes practice. Which part isn't working? The manip?

[@slim1313]

@@Wishengrad yes. The manip will not work. Recently went to PC, and it is never a respawner.

[@Wishengrad]

@@slim1313 You're skipping frame 1 on anniversary graphics while holding W?

[@NorvagenNvG]

Worked, playing on X series. My issue is that after i kill every enemy and get close to Keyes, flood come to the room at the same time cutscene still running then after ends i have lots of enemys already waiting xD

[@Wishengrad]

You must grenade them. That will prevent them from reviving in the cutscene!

[@nevermore6963]

I'm trying to do it, but the flood form keeps falling too far under the wreckage for me to get on his head. Hes also not dying in one charged shot, am i missing something?

[@Wishengrad]

If it doesn't fall after 1 overcharge shot, then it is not a reviver and you must restart the mission. If it is too close to the wall, your lineup of where it chases you is the problem. Line up with the wall scratch or slightly to the right of it before strafing around the flood and overcharging it. At the beginning of the lure, make sure you are far enough away and are walking down the middle of the hallway and then go to the scratch. That makes the flood run close to the wall so you can strafe around it easily.

[@warreng675]

It's just getting the Flood to revive, that's what i struggle with

[@Wishengrad]

After the last update, I'm having trouble again too when I used to always get it.

[@gabeitch3351]

Horrid method

[@Wishengrad]

It's a good method (and the easiest), it's just broken in the latest update. Blame 343. Right now there are no manips that work because of 343. So you need to downpatch if you want consistency. Every cutscene manip in the game is broken right now so all runners are downpatching for the time being.

[@gabeitch3351]

@@Wishengrad bet

[@Wishengrad]

@@gabeitch3351 It's fixed now as of the recent patch :)