100 year old Torbay Palm trees chopped down. Cordyline australis

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Dozens of Torbay Palms, (Corylines) have been felled in Torquay as reported in the press today including the Telegraph and Daily Mail.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023...
I have called them palm trees in the video as that's how they reported in the press and quoted.
What do you think about the felling of these trees?
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[@catherinegrimes2308]

I went to Torquay when I was seven and was amazed with the "palm" trees and vowed to have palm trees in my garden. The trees in you videos looked magnificent and it is a shame to see what has happened to them.

[@MarksHouseandGardenUK]

Great video. The BBC asked to use footage from my Torquay Garden Tour video for their national news story.

[@lindseykaine-walley6339]

Wow! I go there every year for our hoildays. That's why I got into tropical gardening. What a shame. Most looked fine to me and we walked though the park too.

[@patnevin4478]

Only been once but really shocked by this, as they truly were a beautiful sight and it seems the very people who are constantly at us to be environmentally friendly, completely ignore the publics feelings at their meetings, so please have a meeting where you agree that we must get public approval for our plans

[@dean9235]

Who'd have thought, a council that decimates trees, without considering the views of the environment or the people it supposedly represents. This was done without public consultation. Shame on Torbay Council!

[@stevenwillis3044]

The heart of the English Riviera gone thanks to idiotic councillors

[@pburgess4727]

Shocking, shame on the council for not involving the locals

[@keithomelvena2354]

Don't know the situation in Torquay, but cabbage trees don't produce actual wood and do tend to rot out when damaged. They do resprout rapidly if cut down like this. On my farm in New Zealand I have these Cordylines that are hundreds of years old. Really knarly looking things growing in tough conditions. They have a real beauty to them that only age can bestow.

[@tedscott1478]

I used to live there and I think it's disgraceful!!! I just wonder how much public consultation went on before this happened...😮

[@dean9235]

No public consultation at all. There doesn't have to be when governments and councils have no accountability!

[@lindastevens6861]

It’s sad Even with an apology They wanted something they didn’t need to plant yearly But decided to take out the trees which , of course , they did not need to replace yearly. The council has apologise Maybe we need to take them to court and make a law saying that any tree cutting needs to be publicised in local news paper for 6 months before felling As well as clear signs posted on each tree saying it will be cut in 6 months and stating the felling date😮😢

[@tetrapanax1]

Unbelievable! Wonder what their plan is for the stumps as they will likely grow again from those if not removed. Seems drastic. I’m sure a bit of tidy up would have been a better option.

[@jaspermartini4830]

We call them cabbage trees in New Zealand. Weird that they are called palms in the U.K

[@helterskelter7422]

The 'Gardeners' who did this are NOT Gardeners!! Neither is the Council....

[@Blue24Osprey]

Criminals.

[@TrancetasticWilza]

They'll shoot from the base though... unless they are dug out. Shame though!

[@neilh4729]

An absolute disgrace. These councils do things like this to suit their own agendas. They know that if they do publicise them in advance there will be a huge backlash. So instead, they just go ahead, knowing that they can't be undone and there won't be any real repercussions. Heads need to roll for this.

[@okantichrist]

It’s a shame.I love my cordyline.I think in reality they want to reduce maintenance cost of constant clearing up of the falling leaves.

[@egan1878]

That's terrible 😢

[@markborder906]

I wonder how much of this just down to the council not wanting to pay to tidy up the fallen leaves.

[@seansmith445]

What a bunch of vandals 😡

[@G-ra-ha-m]

It's criminal damage.

[@Blue24Osprey]

Criminals.

[@suzannecrowe5701]

We should all money together to replace them properly!! I’d donate and I’m in Ireland 🙌 Guaranteed the council went with.. let’s ask forgiveness over permission from the locals! In a time when people could do with a little certainty in everyday life..just brutal!! Brutal

[@palmhugger]

Same council that planted 3 large Phoenix Dactylifera palms on the sea front which were doomed to die even in Torquay, lot of other proven palms could have been planted there but not their money wasted to worry about 😔

[@bloggalot4718]

A private individual would have been prosecuted for this!

[@uranusneptun5239]

Things like these should be illegal. At a certain age it should also be a decision of the inhabitants if old plants could be cut down. At least they should explain and inform the people beforehand and if it's really necessary then OK... but imagining living there for decades over generations and see all of those gorgeous Cordylines being chopped down is disrespectful to the people. We currently don't need any more distrust in politicians and authorities. Dumb way of handeling this imo...

[@G-ra-ha-m]

It's unlawful under common law.

[@GotoHere]

As usual government doing opposite what the public wants.

[@jimbailey3705]

Some ones in Cornwall declined around that age or even earlier. I can get that they might have been in decline or soon to be in decline due to their age. But... surely they knew they were getting old for decades. 80 years is extremely old! They could have started planting replacements...😮. Not that they take too long to grow, but now it will look bare for quite a few years.

[@milazzosteenoven]

Replacements have been put in many times over past years.

[@AnnSmith-gp7wd]

The way swisco said ' in our enthusiasm to get on with the scheme, we raced ahead and failed to let the public know.' Do they really think the people are that stupid. They just didn't want to be attacked like in Sheffield. Steve Bingley, leader of plymouth city council had to retire after plymouth tree felling, again after so many were shocked as they didn't warn .now there is judicial review to ascertain if the council acted illegally or not . l ll sign donate towards any petition to get rid of anne marie bond.they knew there would be outrage, so they thought ' we ll just apologise & hope for the best' .People have said the trees looked fine.they should show evidence of decline .

[@dianeconway293]

I think they could have have planted new trees years before chopping these trees down but I guess this way there is no maintenance at the end of the day it’s all about money

[@Blue24Osprey]

I assume the council are not facing any questions/repercussions about this crime they committed? Many tourists will go somewhere else which has gardens to admire and enjoy. At the very least there should be some plan to restore/compensate/redesign the gardens for aesthetic and environmental purposes. Anyone know where document detailing future plans are available to read?

[@danyoutube7491]

They say some of the trees showed signs of degradation; do you think the idea is that they could have been dangerous i.e. falling branches, or just starting to look a bit tatty? It's a bit of an own goal by the council in my opinion, if they really had to go then it would have been better, as other commenters have suggested, to have planted some replacements several years back. A bit like RAACs, there was no plan to replace the defunct material! :) I've never been to Torquay but it's famous for its palms, I remember being rather taken aback when my school friend told me about them after he'd been on holiday there.

[@leemaharg3788]

Probably wanted to get rid of them because they were iconic and now they can get rid of the rest of the gardens and build some hotels or houses or maybe even an immigration detention centre !

[@kenbartlam8220]

Why😮

[@rolandbistoen6960]

Absolutely criminal action by the Council. Shortsighted bastards! I am 86 living in Belgium but I had a cousine who lived there and i remember these trees from the postcards she sent me. Palms in U.K. really were an attraction internationally. Stupid decision to waste them now.

[@johnjee1627]

from all of the comments in your video, all the residents as well as the holiday makers are in shock, given public notice this would have caused outrage! unless plans are in place to replace them. lets see the health reports on them then, dont forget , the whole cornish county has been sold over the years on the cornish riviera , with photo's and railway posters depicting the palms in them as you say for over a hundred years they owe a lot to the county its not going to be the same without them, also its a shame the cipd on the lambeth bridge roundabout is going to be another victim , like the video you put up re palms all over the country many of the london ones were on or near council property or housing developments and have been removed also just sad!

[@tedscott1478]

Hello moron, Torquay is in DEVON, not CORNWALL !!!

[@Woad_Brah]

honestly i'm surprised it's even possible to cultivate palm trees in england

[@milazzosteenoven]

Cordylines grow all over the country.

[@theforthdoctor7872]

They knew it would cause a public outcry. Why else did they choose to do it in the middle of the night. I see a pattern here. What is going on?

[@jayearl3591]

As usual, this is government being deaf to their electorate. What with the Gunnera decision it seems little consultation was done with those with knowledge or understanding. I will be amused if they are left fighting the suckers for years to come 😂

[@peterarmstrong3298]

Disgraceful. 😢

[@ellainebedford6562]

For shame!

[@brianfreeman8290]

Yet another example of people in a position of power riding roughshod over the views of their citizens. It is becoming endemic.

[@dean9235]

One hundred percent! No accountability.

[@Junyo]

Every people get the government they deserve...vote Greens next time

[@dean9235]

Our Green Party candidate Bridgette Petty didn't oppose the cutting down of hundreds of trees where I live! I repeat, she's a GREEN candidate. Once they get behind the walls of power.

[@amcluesent]

Labour council.

[@philippehoyez9398]

Proof that the human species is the worst of all!

[@G-ra-ha-m]

No, it's an attack on humans.

[@peterpeterking1]

Discusting so called leaders of our ;-) (ha ha ha) country.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

Vandalism by parasites with funny handshakes.

[@PlanetaryCitizen]

Disgraceful!

[@DJSupaflyguy]

That’s an fn joke 🤬😡

[@staffordshireShane]

Not long lived trees over here unfortunetly iv seen them get rot leaving them unsafe in public places . At the age they are they are coming to the end unfortunetly . Council cant really win if leave them and blow down crushing someone they are at fault and obviously no one wants to see them gone . 60 to 80 years is usually a normal life span for cordylines so they are very old trees .

[@YorkshireKRIS]

That's an interesting perspective to hear. I think we've these been old but also so famous, I'd thought they could have been kept like the very old oaks that have supports etc to keep them relatively safe

[@FnXMusique]

The rest of the gardens look bland as hell.

[@dalemills6566]

Don't worry I'm sure they will be replaced with some rainbow flags

[@markchitty6505]

WOW GREAT ..another shit uk council, like all the rest

[@dean9235]

What has rainbow flags got to do with this? Don't be so childish. This is a total act of vandalism and the council should be held accountable.