1010music lemondrop ... patch from scratch

[@substan_music]

The great support from my patrons makes all of this possible ... thank you so much guys !! www.patreon.com/substan

[@pascalferriot6233]

I'm amazed by what the Lemondrop can do in your hand, you are a great ambient creator ! Thanks :-) Whish I could do that.

[@NealCaen]

you sold me on this. best tutorial on the lemon drop i’ve seen.

[@advaita9156]

Granular synthesis is so much fun and perfect for Ambient! This is on my wish list for my Granular Synthesis set up! Starting with Morphagene and Borderlands Granular first :)

[@BurkhardusX]

No, you don’t start with Morphagene, since it is not a true granular sampler, it’s a tape machine. And beside this, the company offers terrible face plates. The text font and the print looks absolutely chaotic.

[@geolectric_universe]

Thank you for sharing this video. It was the final push I needed to go ahead and order the Lemondrop and I couldn't be happier. I've been playing with this thing all day. Your patches really show off the breadth of this little wondrous machine - great stuff. Cheers to you!

[@LesterH25]

And this is why mine is arriving today. Bravo awesome tutorial.

[@expandingknowledge8269]

Well my friend, all I can say is WOW! Of course we need, not want, but need more Lemondrop tutorials like this. Fantastic!!!

[@substan_music]

Thanks a lot !!! i will definitely come back to the lemondrop soon

[@equanim]

Incredible. This is my next synth. I have a hydra explorer and record streams and make ambient music. This is pretty much identical to how I wanted to use it. Thank you for recording this, making such an elegant and explanatory patch and putting me to ease that it can do exactly what I was hoping it could make. Gorgeous. Great job most enjoyable/relaxing tutorial I've seen

[@substan_music]

Thanks !!! I was actually a huge fan of the lemondrop but stopped using it because 1010music couldn't get it together to fix an annoying “bug” and I didn't feel taken seriously by their support. If you put a heavy load on the processor (high grain density/length, all OSC used, reverb very long....) the lemondrop starts to produce unpleasant clicks (like when you use a plugin on a too low latency). If you can live with this and are willing to work around this limitation then the Lemondrop is great. I ended up with the Tempera and am more than happy with it.

[@GoldbuggMusic]

@@substan_music I think they upgraded a couple of the "I'd like to be able to..." moments from this tutorial too, didn't they? I need a granular machine and Tempera almost looks too complicated for my needs but this news about the lemondrop "bug" is a bit worrying. Anyway, great work as ever Substan - this is probably the only tutorial video I'd ever put on just to listen to good music!

[@pongtrometer]

SUPERB effects too, very naturally spatial .

[@RikMaxSpeed]

Nicest sounding patch from scratch video i’ve ever heard! Beautiful and peaceful throughout. Kudos 🎉

[@Raku777]

Thanks for sharing. I recently got a Lemon Drop synth and am slowly learning how to use its features. These walk throughs are helpful. I am hoping to use it for ambient backgrounds, while the foreground is being generated by an Argon8 synth (and from what you show, they could switch roles!).

[@Infrared72]

Really intricate and detailed layers of sound you've built and shared on this.... I'm amazed by what the Lemondrop can do...

[@NicolasMelis]

this little thing sounds great

[@jaredpreston3815]

absolutely beautiful. I am about to pull the trigger and buy one of these. Would have loved to see the XY screen effect after you finished applying all the additional modulation. Well done!

[@christiand8243]

Interesting little instrument and amazing performance 💯

[@JamesRamboPearce]

Ordered one yesterday and can't wait! Lovely patch from scratch here

[@substan_music]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@JamesRamboPearce]

@@substan_music I sadly didn't, I got the Fireball instead and that mangled my patches so I sent it back, huge shame!

[@theouterplanet]

@@JamesRamboPearce Dammit James....why the hell did you get the fireball?

[@1000Crickets]

Thank you very much for this. It was super useful ...and beautiful

[@fxtreffer]

Thanks for your fine contribution! Granular synths are powerful sound generators :-)

[@pyrsmk]

Thanks a lot for your demo !

[@Octaveplex]

Wow, I have to get one. Great patch!

[@edjefferson9175]

Only you can turn a demo tutorial into performance art.

[@rickr.mortis4821]

Nice sounding patchwork. I accidently overwrote my default patch . Ha!!

[@ThePurpleSnork]

This is fantastic! Can you describe the hydrasynth sample? Is it a sequence of notes? Chords? In your experience what types of samples are best for granular synthesis? Thank you! I love all your elektron videos as well.

[@substan_music]

Thanks a lot ... it's a single held note but there is a lot of movement in it. I think in general samples with nice overtones (mostly in the attack phase) works great .. that's why piano or kalimba is used so often. Sounds with a lot of movement and change of the frequency spectrum result in exciting and lively granular sounds ... also field recordings are great. The opposite would be a simple subtractive pad where maybe only the filter opens and closes... don't expect anything exciting from that. But of course it depends a lot on what you want to do.

[@ThePurpleSnork]

@@substan_music Thank you for your response! It is extremely helpful. I've been playing with various samples in my lemondrop and was looking for more ideas.

[@kingtrance307]

Voice samples?

[@williambrandon9660]

see I'm so excited to get mine in the mail cuz I definitely don't make the same type of music I see this used with. this is gonna be such a move

[@Salvolama]

Show Lemon Space sound very good ..thank you my friend

[@tomtebby7408]

Great demo and wonderful sounds. I always wanted a GR1 but this looks like it will do the job perfectly.

[@substan_music]

Thanks !! ... those were exactly my thoughts :)

[@G.Man-]

From what i've heard, i prefer the sound of the Lemon Drop... Did you end up getting one?

[@RikMaxSpeed]

Having owned two GR-1s, I can confidently tell you that you couldn’t make these sounds on it.

[@scoobysienna]

amazing ordered one..was going for a tasty chips gr 1 but i think this with fireball will be massive

[@mr-mizu]

Can this thing overlap multiple samples? Could you trigger one sound, and a while later trigger another that slowly comes in and overlaps? Or is it just one sound at a time?

[@substan_music]

No overlapping. Just 2 granular oscillators with one sample each. Highly recommended to take a look at Tempera if you want overlapping samples ... that's THE box for such things ;)

[@osvos3278]

This sounds great. Might have to sell something and get one of these to pair with my Fireball...

[@grantbeasley8153]

Great patch. Did you have a MIDI sequence going into this while you were doing the video?

[@substan_music]

Thanks .. I think I just played it with the Keystep of camera

[@mikg2618]

Thinking about how to substitute it with iPad apps and Korg Kaoss with x-y effects. Probably maybe?

[@kingtrance307]

How?

[@mikg2618]

@@kingtrance307 iConnect Midi4+ with iPad and Quanta or FRMS then usb audio (D-D) to PC or Mac + LK as midi controller for Ableton

[@kingtrance307]

@@mikg2618 - You cracked the code… 👍

[@TheLeafAudio]

Great!

[@DEEPMOSES]

Love the sounds, just wish it was same form factor as blue/black box

[@beatnikcafe]

Can the XY pad be automated? How cool would it be to have it gently move about smoothly and slowly? Maybe if not now in a future update they will add this option.

[@substan_music]

No, the X-Y-Pad is only intended for manual input .. but of course you can have the parameters used on the x and y axis modulated with an lfo ... which has the same effect. But of course more modulation option would be always a good thing 😉

[@ullsten67]

Brilliant. How did you make/record the HydComet sample?

[@substan_music]

Thanks !! I have build a patch on the Hydrasynth .. recorded a single note into the DAW and put it on the SD card.

[@doverbeachxyz]

Hello! Long time follower here, I love your music. How do you find the lemondrop after 1 month? I'd like to buy one but I'm afraid that even if I get creative with samples the patches end up sound samey. What's your experience? Greetings from Italy !

[@substan_music]

Thanks a lot !! I honestly admit that I have not used the lemondrop that intensively so far. But don't get me wrong...I still love it...it's more the too much gear and not enough time syndrome. I understand your concerns... sure a granular synth will sound like a granular synth most of the time... but that's exactly what I expect from it. Personally, I can't get enough of the granular stuff... I already have a few modules that work granularly, but being able to play the sounds polyphonically is an asset. For me, the lemondrop is a huge playground ... I don't care much if some sounds sound similar ... it doesn't get boring. greetings from germany

[@BurkhardusX]

@@substan_music So, if you pretend to love granular sounds but admit that you don't use your Lemondrop extensively, there's only one possible explanation: you have other granular devices and I want to know which granular device you prefer over the Lemondrop.

[@scoobysienna]

quick question..would the lemon drop work well with another lemon drop?

[@substan_music]

two are usually better than one 😉 ... the lemondrop is no exception.

[@axelcodr]

Danke für das wundervolle Video! performst du irgendwo manchmal? Ich möchte unbedingt mal kommen und dich live hören!

[@substan_music]

Vielen Dank !! ... ist in den letzten Jahren (leider) sehr sehr selten geworden. Bin aber gerade dabei mir einen plan für ein neues live-set zu machen .. könnte also vielleicht bald wieder öfter vorkommen.

[@gula_rata]

Which is better, Lemondrop or Liven Texture Lab??

[@substan_music]

Tempera :) ... but joking aside ... unfortunately I can't say anything about the texture lab. I've never had it in my hands...but it looks like a fun box. I REALLY like the Lemondrop but since 1010music can't (or doesn't want to) fix an annoying bug that causes a crackling sound when you push the device to the limit, I've unfortunately had to leave the Lemondrop out lately. For me the Tempera is THE dream of a granular synth.

[@somethingintheuniverse760]

Super nice. But tell me, are you playing some note somehow (on a keyboard off the camera) or are you simply looping the samples ? I don't get it :/

[@substan_music]

Thanks !! .. yes .. it’s a keyboard off camera.

[@somethingintheuniverse760]

OK Thanks ! I have 2 other questions before buying one : can it be bitimbral (différent notes on each G Granular layer)? Can we play Lemondrop synth in the same time as the Line out (I want to inject my Mother 32 for bass enjoying the Lemondrop Reverb)? Thanks a lot !

[@substan_music]

@@somethingintheuniverse760 no .. you can’t play each oscillator on different MIDI channels / you can use the signal from the input as source for the oscillators .. but you can not run it parallel to the osc through the FX.

[@somethingintheuniverse760]

Too bad for that price ! Thanks anyway for your explanations :)

[@MrJackal43]

Killer!

[@tonyhc427]

Hi, would it be the right choice for making basslines? Thanks

[@Monkeywhip]

Not really, granular synthesis excels at pads and ambient stuff mostly. You COULD make basslines, but you'd get faster results with a subtractive, FM or wavetable synth. There are better value wavetable synths but the Fireball might be the one you want if you like the Lemondrop feature set and form factor.

[@tonyhc427]

@@Monkeywhip thank you very much for reply

[@substan_music]

I can only agree with @Luke Smith There is nothing to add.

[@tonyhc427]

Well, I would like to buy my first synth...I would like to use it for bass, but not limited to (i also like ambient stuff). I don't really care about type of synthesis; I just care about size (max 37 keys), low menu diving and high "out of the box fun". Can you give me any advices? Budget is around 450usd. Thanks

[@Monkeywhip]

@@tonyhc427 I’m tempted to recommend a bunch of synths but in practice I’ve found there are too many factors making it a very personal choice. There is no perfect synth, there are always trade-offs, so the best thing you can do is figure out what matters most to you, and what you really want to do with it. Why do I want hardware when software is so cheap and powerful? Do I care more about features/versatility or immediate interface? What types of sounds do I most want to make, and what kind of synthesis produced them? What kind of synthesis am I familiar with or interested in learning? These will all have a huge impact on your choice. E.g I’m a hobbyist who likes very small desktop synths I can sequence or play with my Keystep. I like them to have enough focus to do their job well, and enough depth for me to explore. I like sound design away from a PC screen so easy patch creation and naming is important, and saving FX settings with the patches is ideal so good built in FX helps a lot. The Dreadbox Typhon was a good fit, but the trade off was being monophonic. Your needs will most likely be different. Good luck! If I HAD to choose a synth that seemed capable in most ways and also cost effective it would be the Hydrasynth Explorer (which I don’t own) but I think it’s out of your budget. But even that isn’t ideal for everyone.

[@verdielg]

dreamy

[@yb8080]

Looks to me it has a similar workflow to the Digitone..

[@substan_music]

aside from scrolling through the menus i totally agree.

[@theshinyobject2438]

Can you tune that sound. I am alittle unclear on that

[@substan_music]

yes of course ... there is a pitch parameter for each oscillator

[@marcuslutz]

Thank you very much for the walkthrough. Nice sounds from that tiny machine. I am also thinking of buying either this thing or the ADDAC112 for my eurorack. Tough decision.

[@substan_music]

Thanks a lot !! The ADDAC112 looks also very interesting but I have already the morphagene and the nebulae2 in my rack .... but being able to play polyphonically like with the lemondrop is a completely different story.