[10k special] [Fixed in 1.20] Fishing RNG manipulation

[@slicedlime]

Give a man a fish and he’ll restore some hunger bars. Teach a man to fish and he’ll crack your rng. Congrats on 10k!

[@goldbysilver3694]

And that's why, Don't add new features to the gzme

[@impydude2000]

I'm sure you mean "give a man a load of dirt and he'll crack your rng"

[@bsdjail]

@@impydude2000 i can't stop laughing

[@BruhXD2]

@@bsdjail have you stopped laughing? Im worried

[@cyclopropinon5143]

@@BruhXD2 im not sure the he really stopped now

[@RaysWorks]

Congrats on 10k!

[@Earthcomputer]

Thanks man!

[@Incognito-rb4tz]

hi rays!

[@unitricks1620]

OwO

[@vunga8195]

hello roys warks

[@tuoghbananasquash2093]

gg

[@notapplicable7292]

I really love the way you handled the unreliable connection latency

[@electra_]

There is one small... catch I think there are a lot of catches and they all give you mending books.

[@LordJon25]

The RNG farms always impress me, altho I have very little idea on how exactly they work, but I find them very fascinating. Great job bringing RNG to the fishing farms and congrats on 10 k :) !

[@pyk_]

I don't know if you are interested in a little constructive criticism: I think bringing the audio levels of the speech up to match the level of the music would go a long way to make the videos feel more professional. Love your videos either way!

[@woosix7735]

Congrats on 10k, you’re one of the KZbinrs that really deserve it!

[@pi314159265358978]

That's amazing. Congrats on 10k.

[@coolsa]

Bravo! this was far more complicated than i had expected when i asked about it nearly 3 years ago. I didn't even consider that the fishing bobber would have had its own built in randomness, but only a month of work to get results is amazing! I'm sure Timmy 4687 will be happy to see this too. Gratz on 10k!

[@derneugamer1598]

Congratulations for 10k! 🎊🎉

[@vunga8195]

No u

[@TheMrFrukt]

Love you and your great crew, EC. Thanks for all the work.

[@coolmann24]

congrats!

[@selulancie]

Excellent work as usual, and congratz :)

[@sfisher923]

I feel you trying not offend half of your nation with opinions In the US (Where the demonstration server is hosted) if I say anything political I could offend half of the nation Also happy 10K

[@Earthcomputer]

Yeah it sucks, people need to be more open to other opinions.

[@Nooticus]

Amazingly big brain stuff and so much work clearly went into this from all 3 of you! GG on 10k and I especially loved the ‘Earth speaks’ section at the end :)

[@TeraV]

Would like to mention that I am using this to dominate my SMP. Thanks so much!

[@ulissemini5492]

this is so cool! its sad you only have 10k subscribers, the stuff you do is so big brained most people can't appreciate it ):

[@estelairaela3696]

congratulations earthcompter.

[@cubilon603]

Earthcomputer I just wanted to tell you I appreciate your work and also I love how you just keep this mod up until now I just very love this mod thank you

[@catomajorcensor]

clientcommands never stops surprising me.

[@TheTroll2001]

Congrats on 10k! Also nice video

[@SinanAkkoyun]

This is so awesome! And the best thing is you share it with the world, thank you!

[@talkinturtle3939]

10k pog u guys deserve it

[@Yoshiyosh]

no damn way WHAT this is insane you guys are insane you guys are awesome

[@bengineer8]

Happy new year and congratulations!!! Also, this is awesome!!!

[@andrewlegoboy8755]

Great start to 2021!

[@zoomstrikegaming]

Theres one lesson to take from this When life gives you lemons, make lemon trees and cut them down for shelter or something like that Ggs dude

[@kepler69c32]

i love your work, and im glad i found this underrated channel gg on 10k, keep going man!

[@unionrings6020]

I’ve been looking forward to this one! Heard about it on the discord. This may be the coolest part of clientcommands yet

[@hobrin4242]

also if you were wondering I think you are fucking awesome man, this is my fourth comment on this video and every time you upload some new advanced technical shit it makes my day!

[@ITSSUNNYK8]

Glad to see people using the trick i discovered! ;)

[@TheDuperTrooper]

gg man

[@Fyice]

Yoooo congratulations!

[@d4r4butler74]

Congrats on 10k subs!

[@JavierSalcedoC]

Imma tell my kids this is a Phishing Attack

[@Earthcomputer]

Haha

[@Embuer]

Congratulations 🎉

[@TheKingElessar1]

Really interesting stuff! I'm glad to be subscribed!

[@olkazzshitpostvod9578]

Congrats !

[@matthewbolan8154]

Stop having more subscribers than me.

[@Earthcomputer]

I'm winning mate :P

[@HarpKoupenov]

This aged well..

[@oneke4498]

Very cool! Congrats!

[@yuri_01_71]

Congrats on 10 k buddy :)

[@pseudogravity]

thanks for the fun project

[@epteon6024]

Gg man this is awesome

[@attila6042]

gg , very nice ! another goal its done !

[@wybe5114]

Who needs villagers when you got a fishing rod

[@WarLordN1k]

Congrads

[@manrock1924]

hey I uhh watched you look at the code a bit... :P and you only expected 50% accurate? Nice on 75%! (well and 10k) Also this actually may be a useful alternative to villagers! Seeing you dont need to do anything :D

[@sn_ale]

i cant belive you only have 10k... your in pretty much every SalC1 video.

[@niveaoriginal]

Love your vids, you guys are really cool

[@superhase3206]

hgw 10k go on! this content is great ;D

[@superpanter4902]

This mod is amazing! :D

[@alexanderlea7882]

The high mspt made me so anxious lmao.

[@Marpace]

It's because of hosting websites, those sites keep the mspt as high as possible

[@alexanderlea7882]

@@Marpace be nice if they kept it at like 40 so TPS didn’t keep dipping under 20

[@Marpace]

@@alexanderlea7882 Very true, I host a server using a website too, and the little lag spikes when the world autosaves sometimes break my contraptions.

[@delco2035]

you are masters of cod

[@piemanpie3072]

Congrats

[@KKreeperYT]

why doesn't work on 1.20.4?

[@Sopitive]

Next: Looting RNG manipulation.

[@corte_s]

prolly possible b4 1.13

[@corte_s]

only for things like, zombies dropping iron every time, not 10 rotten flesh as it is the looting enchant

[@Sopitive]

@@corte_s maybe, its just a suggestion. Something like egg RNG manipulation would be pointless, looting would be really nice, all types of world RNG manipulation that were doable before are not anymore in the newest versions, so looting seems like the next best thing. I wonder if you would have to have looting at all because since they are entities they have RNG just the same as most things to determine the type and quantity of the item dropped. Fishing RNG manipulation does not require any enchants, so it is possible that mob loot RNG manipulation could also be possible without enchants.

[@corte_s]

@@Sopitive ah, now i see what you mean, if it were possible i think it would already have been done, but i still think the only possible way would be looting, but i am no expert so

[@Sopitive]

@@corte_s github.com/Earthcomputer/clientcommands/issues/118 in this issue, he says he actually plans to look into it, but has not "gotten around to it".

[@Santirruki]

this is incredible

[@johnnysun6495]

congrats

[@jakegearhart]

Going off of the topic you mentioned at the end, I saw Geosquare's video on Dreams cheating and also watched Dream's long response video. I believe what Geosquare presented and, in my opinion, Dream definitely acted suspicious his response video by trying to divert attention to things that felt irrelevant to me (and trying to claim that file metadata was enough to prove his innocence- really, come on, everyone can edit metadata), but I do put some weight into the findings of the statistician he allegedly hired that counter the findings Geosquare presented. Is there another video I can watch that goes more into why one statistician is correct and why?

[@the_cheese_cultist]

www.reddit.com/r/statistics/comments/kiqosv/d_accused_minecraft_speedrunner_who_was_caught/ggse2er?context=3 Here Someone with a phd, and whom is verified at r/statistics (AKA he had to send his credentials) and known there, explains the mathematical problems with the paper.

[@hobrin4242]

the other video is called decompiling minecraft and the java random source code if it is open source or decompile that too

[@alexanderlea7882]

Karl Jobst made a good video about the situation, and some Redditors destroyed Dream's response. This is the video I personally watched for that kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJvMd2tprL12mM0.

[@paumb64]

yeah best video you can watch is the Karl Jobst's one, he is very impartial and explains every point very well

[@eyeborg3148]

There’s a good explanation of all the statistics on both sides by channel “Mathemaniac”. Regardless even if the figure is 1 in 100 million (which is an upper bound anyways) that is still more than enough evidence to conclude that dream cheated.

[@hobrin4242]

Oh my god! And I spend 5 hours trading for mending books on anarchy, I need to sell that quickly! Also, this is not rng manipulation but predicting the rng, right?

[@Slangs]

Yes, a prediction is a more accurate of describing it but considering the lilypad thingy I'd say there is a bit of manipulation to it as well since it isn't randomized the way it's intended to

[@mariusdkm]

Well you manipulate the rng, by tossing the fishing rod multiple times and pulling the rod out of the water at the right time.

[@Slangs]

@@mariusdkm not really though, just retrying while predicting the rng as he said the rng formula is still the same and it is still calculated normally

[@rybot666]

@@Slangs It's both. The RNG is predicted in that we know what is going to happen and manipulated in that we choose what value we want

[@Slangs]

@@rybot666 oh I see, you're right

[@justluke0001]

He did it PogU!

[@Redz]

GG on 10k subs! Is this limited to 1.12? Haven't seen anything in the description. Maybe I missed it in the video. Edit: 1.16.4 from your mod page. So is it only possible in that version or is it possible in earlier versions too?

[@Earthcomputer]

It's possible in 1.12 too, I'm in the process of implementing 1.12 fishing manip, which will be in the next clientcommands update (run it with multiconnect to connect to 1.12)

[@Kivi099]

less goo fishing

[@freedomforimps]

is the fishing rng manipulation not possible in 1.20.4? The /cfish command isnt showing up

[@2Ez]

same for me

[@alwanosuarez9022]

Bruh, what a catch

[@lineperfect6242]

Here before this is everywhere

[@impydude2000]

dose this work on 1.16, because of the fish farm patch and that you need a block above the fishing bobber

[@rhuturajmirashi7369]

Incredible

[@lordquadrato437]

How would an anticheat for this work? Would it be sufficient to just send a fake nonsense UUID to the client or would this mess something up?

[@Earthcomputer]

You could generate the uuid in a more secure way, that would make it significantly harder

[@danielrenfro1923]

oman rng fishing what next rng crafting

[@Bvngee]

Prolly redstone rng if I could guess 🤣🤣

[@danielrenfro1923]

Def wasn’t a joke

[@asies8905]

controling seeds rng

[@vunga8195]

@@Astronomiez they made the thing on scicraft to maximaze fortune loot

[@Earthcomputer]

@@vunga8195 actually that was a cross-server team of people (which included some scicraft members and also me) who designed that.

[@beanbagburrito]

I'm getting "fishing bobber configuration incorrect"

[@itsWaffes]

same

[@angeloid_]

Is there a way to get this to work on paper servers?

[@aestellic]

Sorry if you already said it in the video, but how exactly do you start the fishing once you've added the goal?

[@thebossminer9840]

i know its a late response, but if you're using the afk option then just right click and don't move or anything and it should do all the work itself.

[@yanghaowu7592]

Will it be effective in some servers like paperMC

[@499_Sethri]

Is there for 1.16.1? and congrats on the 10k!!

[@emmeroni-the-bean]

Do you plan on making this sort of stuff work on PaperMC? Fishing manipulation is just so darn handy

[@melo7572]

my friend has caught 40k+ fish in minecraft in vanilla

[@HRfromJohn]

why must mojang remove the small but op niche techniques instead of adding more stuff to the game

[@HRfromJohn]

your mod is really cool. found new stuff from it

[@Yqe-]

So the fishing RNG is based solely on the bobber itself? This would then work on any server with any other player activites going on at the same time? If so, then you could probably set up multiple people to do this, while running other things at the same times, unlike other RNG manipulation

[@rybot666]

Yes, each bobber has its own RNG that is created from its UUID

[@Earthcomputer]

Yep, you can do other things at the same time and have multiple people doing it. Rybot: slight correction, the UUID comes from the RNG (which comes from the system time in nanoseconds mixed with a global MLCG), not the other way around. We just crack the RNG from the UUID.

[@GaboxEz]

i need help, when i throw the rod above the lily pad it brings back the rod

[@fakestory1753]

I don't know why your video never shows up in my mentions even I already subscribed long time ago

[@Earthcomputer]

Have you dinged my bell

[@thebossminer9840]

Hey man, I was wondering what the difference between the afk and manual option were. If you could explain that then it would be appreciated, thanks.

[@goldenarmouredgamer3416]

afk is probably so that it will auto fish for you and you dont have to do anything while manual fishing you have to right click every time to fish again. idk thats just my guess.

[@thebossminer9840]

@@goldenarmouredgamer3416 yeah I figured it out but thank you anyway man

[@cubilon603]

How can you choose the afk option?

[@thebossminer9840]

@@cubilon603 all you gotta do is type /ctemprule fishingManipulation afk then right click once to throw your fishing bobber under a lilypad and let it do the rest for you, also do /cfish add enchantgoal enchanted book or bow or whatever you want

[@cubilon603]

@@thebossminer9840 thank you the general fishcracking worked for me but I didn’t know the afk version :)

[@o7-pika500]

do we do fabric ofr forge i dont understand how to instal client on 1.17.1

[@BlueKossa]

But... Why? XD Congrats on these 2 achievments :)

[@vunga8195]

? To get good loot from fishing

[@dudjfy7600]

Epic

[@2k5dcr]

how do you remove a fishing goal? how to use remove-goal?

[@moregirl4585]

Why don't I get anything on server? I'd expect it just doesn't get intended items at most if server use different randomness

[@xp8342]

Ur insane

[@ThatGeometryDude]

ok um... How do I install the client?

[@martinergo]

nice.

[@lavissebruh3144]

Is there a way to reset the correction ms? It got higher and higher everytime (from 35 to 251ms) and it won't fish anything now

[@djm1ll658]

Villager rng cracking?

[@f.n.8540]

uhh yes i would like to download a phishing client

[@coriox2059]

this is a well trusted creator

[@PALCEK2008]

how to run the client?

[@till7253]

Pog

[@hobrin4242]

Have you done some small tests on paper/spigot if this exact code works? Also, would this work on like an anarchy server with other people fishing in the same dimension / server?

[@soskenndndnndbdb]

Don’t trust me, but it sounded like it was to do with player rng which isn’t affected by other players on the server

[@vunga8195]

No because low tps n stuff

[@1.0]

@@vunga8195 Low TPS is better because the time window gets bigger but I dont think this will work on paper

[@rybot666]

It looked like he was on a spigot server to me, the chat had a world prefix which I don't think is possible without plugins. Might be wrong. Regardless, this is likely to be patched by paper very soon if it isn't already

[@1.0]

@@rybot666 It doesn't Work in paper. Probably because the use the same rng object for every entity at least i think so

[@derrick3899]

does it work in paper server and how does it work i tried and it doesnt work it just spamming it and didnt catch anything

[@ilmoathe3022]

10.1K now and after this video, I’m gonna add 1 to that. You guys are incredible

[@E_X_K]

is there a way to do this without a lilypad? theyre pretty rare and sometimes hard to find

[@floppinium]

how do you use the remove goals argument