114 - The Sun Drop Murders

[@officialdukesmayonnaise]

yes yes someone talking about this case!!! it was a very big thing in my home town, very tragic and scary, and i’m glad to see someone in the community talking about it, thank you

[@jamescoakley4319]

I was living and working in Charlotte at the time, in Derita. We went into lockdown because of this. Overreaction? Absolutely. But no one knew what was what.

[@officialdukesmayonnaise]

@@jamescoakley4319 i was a young kid at the time and it was so wild and unexpected. but wow yeah i didn’t know people went into lockdown in charlotte, i would assume more so concord area people would be doing that lol. but hey, yeah, ya don’t know what’s going on. and it’s crazy, they still never solved the case, and it was all like practically down the road from me. it feels like i’ve grown up with this case.

[@edgybarbie77]

You deserve much more subs & views. All of ur vids are so well done & interesting. And ur voice is so relaxing & soothing.

[@gloriaschultz7865]

Tressy Noles was sentenced to 60 months probation in 2013.

[@amber-alexislamanna2332]

I just want to say how ABSOLUTELY amazing your content is! You were made to do this!!

[@rdwwdr3520]

Just some general praise. What I love about this channel way above and beyond the other true channels I have watched on YT is the original sleuthing, the theorizing from every angle and then attempting to run that down and either poke holes in it or find supporting evidence. This is a lot different than just reporting the details of crimes and retelling (and re-retelling) the story. Really super good!

[@RadMc02]

I’ve only just started listening, but I want to thank you for this episode!! You’re awesome!!

[@katerryjackson749]

I don't think that this was random. The killer specifically targeted that bottling company that day. I'm not sure if it was Donna or the supervisor. And what's with the story about Darrell Noles wife getting hit with embezzlement charges? Does she know more about her husband's murder? Good episode, Steven

[@ledisquetel4151]

I have never heard of this case before, thank you for bringing into attention. You do a great job!!

[@Justice4alll320]

I listen to almost every podcast that this channel does and I don’t know why but this one really bothered me a lot. The fact that this poor man was looking for a job and him just being at the wrong place at the wrong time getting him killed really broke my heart. My sympathies go out to both family members of the victims.

[@johnlewis3891]

Pretty sad to think that the guy hoping for a job, but was killed instead.

[@emeraldinthesky6789]

I live right down the road from where this happened. I remember seeing the big signs offering a reward for information but I never remember hearing about a single update. Also, thanks for pronouncing Concord correctly! Cabarrus is actually pronounced Cuh-bear-us.

[@bettyboop28138]

I grew up in that area as well. Concord NC. My grandma still lives on Old Concord Salisbury Rd which the Sundrop bottling company is on the corner of that rd and Branchview Rd. I remember the murders very well. So sad that it's still unsolved.

[@theladygunsmith]

Same here. I live not far outside Concord and was going to say the same about Cabarrus lol. I remember that sign and thinking how could they not have solved this.

[@m1v111]

wow small world I live in Landis NC

[@Shah-of-the-Shinebox]

I live in Charlotte. I want to slap those who call it "con-curd". However I laughed when he pronounced it "cab-BARR-us.

[@chasealexander4009]

Small world, I lived in Kannapolis and worked in Concrod when this happened.

[@francinestone]

Thank you for all your hard work!!!

[@RichieAppel]

I’ve worked in 2 plants before, if there is large amounts of money in those plants, I wouldn’t even know where to begin searching for it. Plus most plants have some form of security to prevent the general public/non-employees from getting onto the site. The plants I worked at had a guard/badge scan gate, and then additional security before you can actually enter the building. Also, the hours seem strange to me. There was only 3-4 employees working on a Friday morning. I wonder what the shift times were for the plant, if it was a 24 hour plant or if they had blocks of shifts with down time between shifts. This case is weird.

[@MultiSmartass1]

I agree. This doesn't strike me even as a atypical robbery and theft. Something doesn't add up.

[@megwhitlock238]

It was open 8-5, and it wasn’t unusual to have so few people there that time of day. Drinks didn’t run on Friday, and drivers would be out on their routes. There was no security to speak of, as the front office was open to the public. It never occurred to us that something like this could happen here.

[@Jolenesmart1980]

@@megwhitlock238 did you live near there at the time I take it?

[@thisisme3238]

@@megwhitlock238 No security? How risky that would have been. Sounds like this is possibly a prior employee "get even" tactic. Never know what people will do when it comes to former employees.

[@anniej1834]

Heart breaking let's hope the families get the justice they deserve 🙏💔🙏

[@iman11nami]

My favorite podcast of them all!!!!

[@kat135]

Me too been waiting for this 💞

[@iman11nami]

@@kat135 Yes! Me2!!!😀

[@uscgirl6033]

Am I the only one that suspects the wife having it done so Darrell wouldn’t find out about the embezzlement?

[@curtisnash4476]

I realize it is kind of randomly asking but do anybody know a good place to watch new series online?

[@shawndouglass2939]

@@curtisnash4476 watch what new series??

[@betsyschoellkopf4608]

I also thought of the wife Tressy as possibly being involved. Maybe she was trying to get a large insurance payout after hubby's murder and use that money to pay back the $60k embezzlement to keep her self out of prison. Did she get a big insurance payout after murder? Did she ever get remarried after hubby's death? If so, did any new love interests in her life resemble the sketch of the robber exiting the building after the homicides? Just too coincidental about the embezzlements right before these murders to be ignored...

[@mattmcrae1458]

Ok so why does the killer go to the door an hour too early? Wouldn't his cue be her arrival? Red-herring, I'm sure she feels bad her embezzlement casts a cloud of suspicion over her husband's murder.

[@gloriamills1366]

Thank You and God Bless You For Trying To Bring Justice.

[@TheBlueThird]

A new episode...I appreciate your hard work. It's sad that there's so much evil in the world...

[@johnnyallenshaneprater4870]

These podcast are so great! I frickin LOVE this channel!!

[@Dougfresh7919]

I actually have never heard of this case. It’s gonna be a tuff one to solve I believe. I hope all the families get closure one day!

[@jasonmalloy1451]

I think the widow's indiscretion is interesting.. Awfully convenient that the husband was there at that exact moment. Meanwhile she's embezzling..

[@simonelaird846]

She probably was embezzling with the hope of enjoying the cash with her husband lol

[@loupremo]

Captivating. I was wondering if you have heard about the 1985 Rising Daughters Baptist Church murders in Waverly GA. Some new developments have come out that would make an awesome video.

[@tyrastarrweaver]

Yes I live here in Georgia and saw an article about it. The man they arrested and charged for the couples murder is still in prison and still claims he is innocent; meanwhile the man who's DNA they recently tested from the crime scene is still walking free. I would love to see them make a video about it as well.

[@christiegroves]

@@tyrastarrweaver I hope they get the guy in Jail out, how terrible but thank God for advances in DNA.

[@patriciagallacher6741]

Don't think I have heard of it but thanks for mentioning it, will have to look it up.

[@princesstamika]

@@patriciagallacher6741 iirc there was an unsolved mysteries segment about it. it may still be up on youtube.

[@shawndouglass2939]

@@christiegroves unfortunately, prosecuting attorneys or Da's move painfully slow when correcting their mistakes, they would rather let someone suffer in prison forever instead of admitting they made a mistake, Bastards, all of them😞!!

[@musewithscissors2069]

I have a really, really bad feeling in my gut that Tressa had this arranged and Donna was the one who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Tressa has a history of money-related deception and scamming. With her husband out of work, she was probably flat broke and may have owed money to loan sharks or God knows who else. The only person who can confirm that she offered to run in the job application is dead, and she may have told the police that to help steer attention away from her. Did the police ever look into what kind of life insurance payment she received, and how quickly did she file the claim after her husband's death? She knew her husband planned to hand in the job application in person. This is something that Darrell could have easily done on his own. Why go with him? Who brings their spouse with them to turn in job apps? She may have insisted she come along to may sure the job was done. Plus, her being present makes it LOOK more like she had nothing to do with it. Finally, unless you have a significant hearing loss, how do you not hear at least two gun shots being fired a short distance away from you? Even if you had music playing in the car and all the windows were up. That is a small parking lot in front of that lobby. Her claims that she didn't hear the shots or see anyone running out are ridiculously hard to believe. Nothing is adding up and the investigators may have been too quick to dismiss her involvement. As Steven said, who the hell sets out to rob a small bottling company? The former employee theory may hold some weight to it, but I feel as though an arranged hit orchestrated by Darell's wife seems more likely.

[@carolyns99]

Yes, if the description of her thoughts and actions whilst sitting in the car park are accurate, they seem a little strange. She wonders if he's been given an interview right away. Okay, makes sense. Then she hears sirens and thinks there's been an accident and he's helping. Why? Because an ambulance came into the parking lot? That's not clear but if so, wouldn't you worry that your missing husband had had the accident and get out of the car? Not she, she just starts to think he may have witnessed a crime. Again, why? Have the police arrived now? Still, you don't get out of your car? Not she - she starts to call her daughter to tell her about it (WTF?) when the number of emergency services "began to grow" (certainly indicating that others are already there) and NOW she realises something terrible has happened! If indeed this sequence of events is accurately how she described it, I smell a rat.

[@gbosearcher-3686]

MuseWithScissors 20 Agee. I live in NC and when she was arrested for embezzlement, I thought she must have more involvement in the murder of her husband. Then when all her testimony about not hearing anything or seeing anyone - I thought baloney. It was and still is suspicious. As far as going with him to put in the application- I know several couples who go with each other no matter what they are doing. Feed store, the wife will wait in the truck, husband waits on wife to go shopping- I use to see it a lot in the small town I lived in. I hope one day it will be solved.

[@jasonmalloy1451]

Exactly!! Arranged to have him murdered, make it look like robbery gone wrong collect his life insurance and take the money from the robbery.. We already know she was embezzling!

[@princesstamika]

that's a huge extrapolation. full of personal suppositions. i feel sorry for Tressa now, wannabe websleuthers are after her for this. i don't know why spousal hit seems more likely to you (probably because Tressa's financial fraud which is... tenuous at best. a scammer does not a murderer make.) but someone with inside knowledge about the amount of money that would be there on a friday afternoon seems way more likely than a spousal hit. you're using a future event to explain something in the past, although both are in the past now. after a woman loses her husband and breadwinner, yeah i'd suspect she'd run into money problems.

[@gbosearcher-3686]

princesstamika Wow is all to say. Since I live in NC and pretty close to this town, there is a lot more that has been published that wasn’t mentioned. Mainly, because it can’t be proved. If you lived in any small town during that time period , it was common knowledge that plants businesses paid their employees in cash. Some only paid every other week. This is a small quiet town. I use to drive that way for work related meetings. Unless she was deaf and had the radio blaring there is no way she missed gunshots. One shot yep could be a backfire, two shots - nah! Then to dismiss the sirens and not be concerned about her husband’s where about. Mighty suspicious.

[@spleengrrrl]

I was waiting for this!

[@paulad.patterson4732]

A new Trace Evidence!!! Whoo-hoo!!!

[@sandramarkley7966]

Well Steven Pacheco I have been watching your stories for a while now and I have to tell you they're interesting although I may have heard him on other podcast but you're different because you give I believe more information and you talk about it I like that you don't just do the series and be done you give opinions you give ideas I like that keep up the good work dude God bless

[@katie2152]

Hello Steven...Best podcaster.

[@Shah-of-the-Shinebox]

I live In Charlotte so Concord isn't very far and it's a booming town. I'm shocked something like this happened.

[@delusional_lucidity4545]

Mr. Pacheco, excellent podcast as always

[@gbosearcher-3686]

I live in NC and remember these murders. It is amazing that they are still unsolved. Also, I thought it had been said that the person was recognized by one or the other and that is why they were shot.

[@sport1girl]

I live in Charlotte and I don’t remember this. So sad.

[@lenafranklin7262]

An ex employee

[@thisisme3238]

@@lenafranklin7262 My thoughts exactly!

[@sandicmxr]

Thank you for covering this.

[@loredanadincu7930]

I think one of the two was targeted, I don't think it was a robbery. From what you said I inclined to belive that Darrel was the one targeted, for me his wife seems to act strange and the acusation coming at her 2 months later, strange. Did he had a life insurance policy taken on his name?

[@evyswonderland1569]

ya sounds like to me the wife had a hit on the husband i mean thats what this case sounds exactly like or maybe her husband was having an affair or she was having an affair so how do you get rid of a husband kill him so Donna was just in the wrong place =(

[@emiiimm7436]

I immediately thought the wife was involved

[@hockeynut4858]

Lots of murderers are free out there, working next to someone

[@bengarrido638]

I can remember just like yesterday. That wanted sign out front of the plant stood for a couple of years looking for info on case. I lived about 1 mile away. All day Helicopters flew over Concord all day.

[@Necron990]

The cops may be tight lipped because, as some of you stated, Donna may have been the target. So that implies a contract killing. Who can afford a contract killing? Who would know about the layout and logistics of the place? Her boss...

[@jerrymarshall2095]

Why kill her at work?That seems to be messy,why not do it at a red light ,or driving down the road,a hitman could get her one way or the other.the sun drop office was a place where its hard to control the environment,like the guy in there dropping off his application or employees in and out..Just to risky.

[@Tsumami__]

Depending on the person you’re hiring to do it, a “contract killing” isn’t necessarily that expensive. God, you could find some crackhead to shoot someone for a couple thousand these days.

[@smokefromthepit9398]

Sweet thanks man

[@tporchia7751]

Maybe Noles wife Tessie and her shady self had a black boyfriend, and they planned this together??..*I don't recall you saying that she saw someone enter or exit the building. The police need to see if he had a life insurance policy. I think if she would have said she saw someone, it would have been reported. I say Tessie is involved.

[@loredanadincu7930]

He said she saw someone entering the building around 10, but he didn't say if she saw that person walk out

[@katerryjackson749]

A part of me thinks she had something to do with it

[@MultiSmartass1]

I would say this is possible. Tressies rationale strikes me as suspicious. If Darryl was going in to drop off an application, that implies that he didn't have an appointment and was simply bringing something in. Why then did she say she didn't think much of his not returning after awhile? Why not call him on a cell phone (I assume they both had cell phones) and ask what's going on?

[@donnablack6280]

Serious financial problems with a wife embezzling, likely worried what will happen when her husband finds out, him out of work for six months - I dunno, looks like she paid some lowlife to kill him and Donna was an unexpected witness.

[@gloriamills1366]

Prayers For Justice.

[@chasealexander4009]

I lived close to the plant and had family that worked there. It really shocked the whole town. Mainly the randomness of it. R.I.P and my condolences to the family.

[@pianomanhere]

Speculation: I think the target was Darryl. Let's suppose that Tressa knew her embezzlement would sink her. Perhaps she had a large policy on Darryl. A large insurance payout from a murder of Darryl would help pay off the embezzled funds. She'd be left only to serve time. Brenda was collateral damage. The bottling plant was chosen by Tressa as the venue for a hired hit against Darryl in order to throw off investigators, make it look like some murky mix of robbery and assault or murder, and thus stage it as something brilliantly random. It may be far-fetched but it does lend credibility to selection of bottling plant as the site of the murder.

[@delusional_lucidity4545]

Sadly, I just read Donna's oldest son Shawn Eugene Barnhardt passed away on 22 Nov 2019, age 50.

[@victorformosa2825]

That is just tragic.

[@JeweleeT.]

So sad! 😪

[@delusional_lucidity4545]

@@victorformosa2825 Right. He was only 9yrs younger than his mom at the time of her death.

[@katerryjackson749]

Sad that he won't see justice for his mom

[@victorformosa2825]

@@delusional_lucidity4545 Truly heartbroken, which led to his passing.

[@deaconmack8]

I grew up in Concord but left in 2005. I remember Ms. Barnhardt from Central Cabarrus, this is sad to hear.

[@MsMrlissa]

🔴Have you thought about doing an episode on the Delphi murders?

[@lenafranklin7262]

Yes the police have a long recording of the killer etc they only released the bit where he says " walk down" that poor girl was smart enough to record it all but police still can't identify him so sad for both for both girls.

[@KrazeeClark]

This crime happened in my town. In fact, I live less than 5 miles from this plant.

[@theladygunsmith]

You're right about this being a small parking lot and there are plenty of other accessible businesses to rob (strip shopping center across the street). Being around firearms I don't see how she could have not heard gunfire there. The road in front and beside isn't that busy. It being so long the police need to come off some more information so the public can try to help. The interstate there seems close but you can't get onto it directly from hwy 3 (Branchview). If this was a robbery then the thief must have known something about the business because the building is really plain and you'd never think they have lots of money in there and even if they were looking for the money from vending machines how would they know it would be bills and not bags of change? It would even help to know what was taken in that box. Businesses usually pay by being direct billed and pay it by check directly to accounts receivable. The police need to definitely release more info.

[@princesstamika]

if someone somehow has inside knowledge that the company routinely keeps large amounts of cash on hand, on a certain day with no security it could still be a logical target even if it doesn't seem like one to people without inside knowledge. being a bottling company and not an ideal target for robbery makes me think this was someone acting on inside knowledge.

[@tracyjohnson9198]

Exactly, her husband was an avid hunter and she didn't recognize the sound of gunshots?

[@yesimaboomer]

Hate to say this but maybe the wife in the parking lot didn’t want her church going husband to find out she was an embezzler.

[@Tempted_Lotus]

I find it soo odd that in all of this, the owner never disclosed how much if any money would be missing, that’s so odd. So far it’s just no one knows how much is missing 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️how?? Unless it’s bonds or something else that was kept in that box, or payroll checks etc but those would bring attention to whoever cashed them. Idk it’s weird.

[@sfletch3042]

If it was payroll checks they would of course be able to see exactly how much those were. I doubt anyone would try to cash stolen payroll checks after having committed murder in the robbery of those checks.

[@susiefoxy8130]

Much easier to dodge the tax man back then when paid in cash

[@victorformosa2825]

I have to say tessie sounds suspect, did they press her anyone know?

[@Decgyrrl]

I honestly hope that the NC police, catch this guy. I cannot believe 12 yrs have passed, without an arrest. Yet there are cases where it's taken 20+ yrs to capture someone. I'm sorry abt the deaths of those 2 ppl. May they rest in peace. 🕊🕆

[@m1v111]

I live in Landis NC and remember this case well it still haunts the area

[@imcallingbs1883]

The sales men probably have cash accounts, they probably do a big drop on Friday. It was an inside job. An old route assistant or sales man. He knew what the routine was. I used to be a route salesman and I usually had any where from 10 to 15 grand cash drops every Time.....

[@stevebbuk]

Does anyone know whether the employees were paid by cash or bank transfer?

[@megwhitlock238]

No.

[@megwhitlock238]

@@stevebbuk check. There would have been very little money in the office besides petty cash.

[@lenafranklin7262]

Ex employee

[@megwhitlock238]

No.

[@Tier1lawndude]

Donna haveing a background in the pentagon and navy intelligence is suspicious

[@jamescoakley4319]

Your content is great. However, the slideshow not lining up with the narrative makes it a bit annoying,

[@sega32xxx14]

I was a shift supervisor for CVS being paid measly 10-11 an hour several years back for around 6 years and countless times I would have to drive the cash deposits for up to 3-4 days sometimes depending on how lazy the previous closing supervisor(s) were about doing it for the day(s) they closed the store to the bank as I often worked the closing shift, so I would often have to drive between 10-11 at night with 3-4 bags of cash with anywhere between 5-10 thousand dollars each in them to the bank to drop them in the deposit box. The craziest part is I never really seemed to worry that much about it until one night a few years in when I noticed a car that was behind me pull into the (obviously always at that hour) empty bank parking lot behind me, and all I could think to do at 24 years old was call someone on my cell and have them on the phone after sitting in my car a while, and get out with the bags bunched in a bigger bag and then bunch it in my jacket and throw it over my shoulder loudly talking on the phone acting like I was trying to figure out the address I was closest to... I believe I just got lucky that night due to one or a combination of the decisions I made that night, cause the guy in the other car was clearly scoping me out, and even though I'm a male it's not like I was going to risk losing my life over an insurance write off for CVS if that guy approached me with a weapon. I always tried to get the deposit(s) to the bank before closing the store after that night so I didn't make myself such an obvious target in the future, but then I was just risking my job every time because as the supervisor on duty I was never supposed to leave the property while the store was still open, but after that experience I just hated the thought of driving around with all that cash on me...

[@ChristineBroughton]

Enjoyed your new podcast Have a Wonderful Weekend 😊

[@brainsareus]

I hate the term ''loyal employee'', as that sounds like a docile corporate slave to me. PS I besmirch no one's memory.

[@burnsloads]

Grow up child.

[@jodypowell342]

Employee loyalty can be defined as employees who are devoted to the success of their organization and believe that being an employee of this organization is in their best interest. Not only do they plan to remain with the organization, but they do not actively seek for alternative employment opportunities. but i think of dogs when you say loyal.

[@MultiSmartass1]

Employers see unquestioning loyalty as a compliment . it isn't. That's why working for yourself is always better.

[@thisisme3238]

@@MultiSmartass1 Agree 100%

[@Spartacus34]

I would have a few questions, did Mr. Noles have life insurance, and did the police look to see if his wife had a cell phone and was it checked?

[@claireslater6243]

Now there's a thought

[@pammywhammy3767]

I'm thinking the same thing.

[@pulaski1]

That thought occurred to me just a couple of minutes ago (22:45) when I heard that his widow had been charged with embezzlement. It would also explain why she didn't report hearing gun fire. If she was sitting outside in the parking lot she would definitely have heard pistol shots unless she was as deaf as a doorpost.

[@Spartacus34]

LtCol Pulaski here is what bothered me, in the video it says she “offered to drop off the application for her husband and he could wait in the car”, so he would have been an easy target sitting in the car in the lot, she could have claimed he had money stolen and it was a “robbery gone bad”. When he chooses to go into the Bottling plant, they have to make it look like a robbery. She had no idea it would appear she was being investigated for the embezzlement and probably thought she could replace the funds and no one would have been the wiser.

[@katerryjackson749]

Yeah the authorities need to look more into Tressie and their relationship. Something's not right

[@Geronimo2Fly]

The police need to look very, very hard at Tressa. Was there a life insurance policy? Did the house go 100% in to her name if her husband died? She is a crook. Who accompanies their spouse to drop off a job application? Who offers to go IN to the establishment to drop it off for them? That's ridiculous. She was sitting right there in that small parking lot and saw and heard nothing? I think she had someone murder her husband, and rob the place to make it look like a robbery rather than a murder. Plus a little extra bonus cash for them to split. Nothing else makes sense.

[@claireslater6243]

It seems like a strange place to carry out a robbery I agree and shooting two people is even less understandable, Is it possible that one of the victims was the target and the other sadly in the wrong place at the wrong time

[@royrush5374]

What if....... Her military ties has something to do with the possibility of her having a dead man's switch and it got found out before she could react. The fact the cops haven't been up front all these years makes me think they are in over their heads on this one because of the connections.

[@fredrainey3038]

Hell I'm not use to hear Sundrop being mainstream

[@fredrainey3038]

That's like a staple in Gastonia

[@m1v111]

Fred Rainey love me some cherry lemon sundrop I get one at the whataburger in kannapolis all the time

[@AlucardPeach]

Lol Same!!!

[@AlucardPeach]

@@fredrainey3038 I'm in Gastonia 🙂

[@Emiliapocalypse]

Never heard of it. But it sounds good

[@gertieakabestfriend375]

Posted 27 mins ago! Woot!

[@cornpopwasabaddudeandhehad4737]

I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking that who Robb a bottling company

[@simonelaird846]

Apparently a smart criminal thinks to rob a bottling company

[@freelancer2963]

I remember this like it was yesterday..crazy

[@wedin1051919]

Jim Backus would've been 36 when she was born and he had no children so that makes no sense.

[@HughShitts]

she would of been 10 in 1959 and JFK was already famous too, that didnt make sense either

[@TheDjdonnie68]

My thoughts exactly

[@susiefoxy8130]

Backus ex wife had a child , maybe she met JFK as a child, before he was president...she was born in 1948

[@kleeamd8274]

@@susiefoxy8130 Quoted from the obituary: "Donna went to church with Red Skelton and she used to babysit for Jim Backus. He was Thurston Howell III on Gilligan's Island. She met President John Kennedy before he was a president."

[@susiefoxy8130]

@@kleeamd8274 thank you

[@marklittler784]

The police were phoned immediately looks like they spoilt the track for the tracker dogs, might of used a scrambler motorbike to negotiate the woods.

[@aurorak2397]

I definitely don't think it was random, and I'm curious if Donna was the target for some reason. It's just too weird to rob this type of business.

[@amya3980]

There was NO surveillance anywhere in the whole plant?!

[@marklittler784]

Businesses usually have cctv what about other businesses in the area , was Friday their payday, were they paid in cash.

[@cornpopwasabaddudeandhehad4737]

This case ain’t right they sure it ain’t someone close to one of the victims it’s a bottling company it would be no money there so why would someone try robbing it doesn’t make sense

[@princesstamika]

if someone had insider knowledge about how much cash they had in the box on fridays, they could still be a good target. that's what makes me think it's an inside job.

[@JayEllTee01]

your name! Hahaha!

[@Jolenesmart1980]

@@princesstamika apparently there was little cash left on site some woman on the comments called megan keeps saying like she knows them or something

[@sophiabernadeau7403]

Ahhh I made it in time!!

[@mickeymcafee7615]

Dread locks? Seems like that'd be an easy notice in that area.

[@STI2000]

I’ve always hated it when usually the media gives a murder or a murderer a catchy nickname like “Son Of Sam” I’m guessing the friends and family of the victims don’t think it’s so cute and catchy.

[@lisabetta3]

Someone was just upset about their shitty soda...

[@suereeves5994]

Very well analysed and narrated

[@adriantheabstract]

this seems like a hit.

[@sandradavis33]

As far as someone knowing that someone tried to get in before business hours, no one had to see them, maybe they heard them. Here where i work, the door is locked and even though we have a fairly large lobby, about half of the downstairs office people should be able to hear when someone pulls hard on the front door, not knowing it's locked.

[@kevinoshea4134]

Steven did you ever think of getting together with the id channel to make programs out of these stories?

[@fireicemetal]

Please make a video on the Delphi murders

[@Mary.Quantum426]

I think Donna was the targeted victim here; Darrell was collateral damage, perhaps trying to protect Donna. If it had been a genuine robbery, no need to kill anyone; they'd be compliant and scared enough.

[@delusional_lucidity4545]

I'm not finished yet, but I agree so far because Donna worked there and was expected to be there. Darrell, was purely by a tragic coincidence, only dropping off an application and not expected to be there. Unless Darrell's wife is behind it. Why would you rob a bottling company? Expected heist?

[@RichieAppel]

Bottle caps will be the future currency. Because war.... War never changes.

[@MultiSmartass1]

Possible. Although it seems unlikely, I'd say Darryl was the likely target. Tressie behavior strikes me as suspect.

[@stevebbuk]

But why kill a harmless grandmother? I think the culprit is likely to be a rookie, hence the unnecessary shootings and why he has evaded capture because he remains unknown to Police. Was the bottling plant perceived as a soft target or did the killer have inside information that the payroll was due on the Friday and there was likely to be a large amount of cash on the premises?

[@delusional_lucidity4545]

@@MultiSmartass1 OMG. I forgot. Wasn't she arrested for embezzling $70,000 from her previous employer or something?? That dirty bitch probably did set him up. Now looking at the statistical probability of Darrell being a shooting victim at that business? He would've likely only been inside less than 5 minutes. Donna was the owner's secretary. So, Darrell likely entered the reception area to hand Donna his application. Explains why Tressy never said she saw or heard anything . Bullshit. She saw everything and heard the gunshots and the gunman leaving.. who said he was a black man?

[@deaconmack8]

The embezzlement was connected in my opinion.

[@jwhite1016aol]

Cah-bear-us... Bear as in Yogi not bar as in Moe's Tavern.

[@gloriamills1366]

I Agree not A Place To Be Robbed.

[@johnjones6049]

I actually really liked a good glass bottle of sundrop... it's become harder and harder to find though nowadays... even in plastic bottles or cans... all glass bottle drinks are all but extinct... 😔

[@thisisme3238]

Glass bottles are used very little these days, even though everyone complains about how long it takes plastic to disinigrate in our landfills.

[@doddiemcclure2115]

I live in Indiana. I haven't seen a bottle of Sundrop in forever. I've seen cheerwine before but have never tried it

[@MiMisTreasures]

Oooh! You have to try cheerwine! You won’t regret it

[@Tsumami__]

It seems too bizarre that it happened in the type of business it did and that it’s anyone other than someone who’s worked in that building or well acquainted with someone who did. Who would even think to rob a bottling plant? What would be the point of shooting anyone unless they recognized you? The idea that it was a hitman - if it was a hired hit why wouldn’t the killer just wait for either of them to walk out at the end of their shift or during a break? Why steal the cash box if the intention was a hit? And sloppiness I can accept with a hired killer, but not unnecessary increased risk - for example why would they want to risk entering the building at all, instead of waiting for them to exit, much less entering with no face covering so you can be identified and have to shoot the other employee who saw you? I tend to lean towards the idea it was a former employee who didn’t work directly for the company, but someone who worked in the building on repairs or maintenance, or maybe had been there before doing a delivery. Someone they weren’t working with daily but may have known by first name and job affiliation, enough to get them caught. They knew there was some undisclosed amount available to steal in this business, that I wouldn’t expect a low level burglar or thief to think of, when there are plenty of gas stations and stores with a larger amount available to access, but with more people likely to be around. The composite may have come from the third employee who saw them exit, perhaps? If they looked around as they left the building they might have gotten a decent enough look to provide a description. As far as not hearing the gunshots outside, that might have been just because of the building construction. In my apartment I can hear everything outside, but someone sitting in my parents home...you can’t hear a damn thing going on outside. She might not have seen anyone exit because she just wasn’t looking at the door or in its direction. I know when I’m sitting in a car waiting for someone and several minutes go by, I start to zone out looking at a bird in a tree or something random nearby. If they worked at the same place and she was embezzling from there, I would think there was something to that theory, but they didn’t. And getting caught pocketing $60k would probably only net you a few years in prison and the rest of the time on house arrest, I doubt she’d have her husband murdered over that.

[@pulaski1]

@7:27 If he was 5'7" tall and 160-170lbs he wouldn't be of "slender build"! At that weight he would have been, _at least_ "stocky". At 5'7" and 160lb he would have a BMI of 25 and be right on the line between "normal" and "overweight".

[@brainsareus]

Why did he choose a bottling co? Maybe, it was a bit isolated, and had low security, because one does not expect a lot of money at a bottling co; though, not zero money, obviously. And, maybe, the criminal simply did not think much of anything through.

[@victorformosa2825]

Those people are incapable of thinking.

[@avnrulz8587]

I remember hearing about this crime when it occurred.

[@theultimaterush]

Gotta drive to the 704 for the real sundrop

[@AlucardPeach]

704 and 980

[@EMannise26]

Could I pay to have a certain case done?

[@johnellg9399]

Hello, I appreciate your work and how you do extensive research and are very thorough. I have always gotten a very in depth viewing of your videos. They keep me captivated and hopefully someday I can help. I have to say, I don't like how you changed your platform from the way it used to be. I remember when there was a controversy about the music being played throughout the video. I find it very dull and boring now. It's too bad that somebody was too scared to listen to it all the way through oh, they had to have all the lights on in their house in order to watch or listen. You should just continue have been who you were from the beginning because I feel that major Channel stronger. People like to be off the edge of their seat, ain't that why they go to scary movies at the movie theater. I would ask you to continue to put the music all the way through your videos

[@MultiSmartass1]

My assessment of the case 1) I don't think this was a robbery. To begin with, the crime was a one person job. Considering the building supposedly robbed was a bottling plant, which is odd itself, it strikes me as odd that one person would go in, shoot two people, take some money and go. If this was a two or three person job, then would make sense but one person? I don't think so. 2) If the details are right, whomever committed this crime might have made an effort To get into the building. Supposedly a person was seen trying To get into the plant earlier in the morning . In any event, The perpetrator clearly needed to be inside this building, this plant. 3) Tressie strikes me as more than a tad suspicious. She dropped Darryl off at Sun Drop and stated that she didn't find odd that it took a while for Darryl to come out. If they were running errands as she said they were, it strikes me they would pretty much have a basic schedule. So why is it she only got concerned when emergency personnel and police showed up? Also here's another point. I don't know If either of them had cell phones but if they did, why didn't she just call him to inquire about what was going on? Considering her later arrest on embezzlement charges, I'd say something was going on with Tressie of a highly suspect criminal nature 4) The known details of this case seem very minimal for a crime of this nature. A number of things aren't known: the amount of money taken, what eyewitnesses saw, even any indication of what occurred inside. The police are sitting on a lot of details. Either they know far more they are saying or know just enough. 5) I'm convinced that this was a planned murder of either Donna or Darryl. Donnas background is slightly interesting -working as a codebreaker in the Navy during the Vietnam war in the past-but there is nothing out the ordinary about Darryl. In any case, either one of them were intended targets.

[@patrickwild5564]

I tend to agree with you. The only other thing that I can think of is that it might have been the work of a wandering madman. Peace.

[@Surago]

Maybe it’s been noted. But what if the killer went to open the doors early because he was from a different time zone. Maybe Donna was meant to be murdered. A murder for hire plot and was told what time it opened but they didn’t change their clock on account of time zone differences

[@lenafranklin7262]

The wife would have heard the gunshots

[@Tier1lawndude]

This is were i live i really wish they would get solved

[@Maligroot]

Love and respect 🐨🇦🇺

[@blondegypsy8525]

Thank you !!