[114] What Are Security Pins??? How Do They Make Lock Picking Harder?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Please Stay Tuned For More Lock Picking Home School Episodes Every Wednesday!

[@Flyfan24]

Who else is here after watching LPL and didn't understand all the terms he uses?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks for stopping by! Check out my Lock Picking Home School playlist for a more in depth how to on many of the lock picking concepts

[@jibreel1580]

@@HelpfulLockPicker how did you open those locks can you show us?

[@Kezarim]

Exactly.

[@shantahsieh432]

I did it myself. I used Woodglut woodworking plans for this.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks for sharing

[@gantry289]

Great job, going over and explaining security pins!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words! I hope it helped :)

[@dancoulson6579]

"And you can see it took me a little longer that time." He says after picking the lock in a shorter time than it would for me to find the correct key on my keyring.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for checking it out! Not all locks always open up easily though

[@LockNoob]

More great content for the beginner :-) thank you for doing this :-)

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Lock Noob thank you for the kind words. I have fun making the videos :-)

[@BronxLockPicker60Rodriguez]

Hi my good friend! Amazing video as always, and you hit every major points in this video as far as feedback goes from security pins. We as pickers become very used to them to the point that when picking "stock" locks we tend to stumble with them! Like one of the best lock pickers in our community "PickMe 1977" once told me is to always pick "stock" locks so as not to lose the "touch" we worked so heard for in the beginning of our lock picking journey! Thank you HelpfulLockPicker for your continued contribution to our Locksport Community and to the Locksport as a whole!! Thank you for sharing!!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words and thank you for sharing :) It really is funny how standards can be hard once your start to feel you are becoming experienced, lol.

[@BronxLockPicker60Rodriguez]

HelpfulLockPicker Absolutely, that's why it's important to go back and pick those so as not to lose the feel!!

[@Cray2TheZ]

What an awesome guy! Thanks for making these videos!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words, I am glad they help!

[@GlassWolfLH]

Security pin video, and no mushrooms or T-pins shown?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

This video just covered the most common ones used

[@GlassWolfLH]

@@HelpfulLockPicker Fair enough. Maybe consider doing a future video to cover any other security pin types for slightly more advanced locksport folks? Thanks for the response! Love the videos.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

@@GlassWolfLH later in the series I am going to cover more pins. My ultimate goal which won't be in the immediate feature is to start to refilm them the series and get much more specific since I have a much better setup now than when I started until I was going to do more

[@aratondisane]

The multipick cutaway locks have pinning kits that come with hollow pins (there's a small hole on one side of the pin, it's not drilled through, so that way it is different to pin-in-pin or telescopic technology), does anyone know how those work? Do hollow pins interact with T-Pins somehow, are they used in combination?

[@cameronball3998]

Awesome video. Thank you so much for these intro videos; I am a newbie to lockpicking and they are super helpful along my journey.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

thank you for the kind words! I am happy to hear that they help :-)

[@ootfan5]

Your Security skill increased

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for sharing

[@harrickvharrick3957]

I would have liked a closer look at how serrated pins react on picking them like you did showed it with a spool type of pin!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

I plan to do a video on that at some point but I haven't gotten there yet:(

[@alainaval]

Those were my exact words after my initial praising of the video to my boyfriend

[@alainaval]

You are my go to person for any on the job questions that arise. The false set has happened to me before and I suspected it was security pins but I didn't know how to handle them. Now I feel SO much more prepared for the next time. Thank you so much for doing what you do and keeping it simple and to the point. 🙂

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words and I'm glad it helps

[@twistedmindedsniper4613]

Im a beginner. In my eyes him picking it bye zipping blew my mind

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@thomaswebster5488]

Could anyone give me any tips?? =/ I’ve been having trouble picking a brand new Lockwood lock (they are probably the most secured Auzzi locks) I can’t tell if I have any spools or what does any one have any tips??? It’s a pin tumbler lock

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Any success yet?

[@CodSubzz]

I watched a video of you explaining oversetting the pins, and being a beginner this is exactly the issue I was having, and you've helped me so much! Thanks😁

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps

[@kevinkitson1569]

Can you tell us which pin gave the false set? As someone completely new to picking I’m trying to understand the relationship of the pins in such a scenario. Thanks

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

When you are put in the false set and when you go to lift the pin that put you there you will be able to tell because you will get feedback like counter rotation

[@NegleLir]

Oh my effing god!! Took me TWO hours to get that damn lock open!! But I did it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Negle Lir congrats, I understand the struggle, lol

[@NegleLir]

HelpfulLockPicker But the joy when it finaly popped open, I cant describe!!! 😂 Im a girly girl (AND broke a nail 😡👎) and Im not sure how to explain to others, going forward, why it is I can pick a lock 😂 But I didnt want to spend money on some sort of scissor to cut it open, now I only to buy a lock and remember where I put the key 😛 THANK YOU for teaching me something I NEVER thought I would need 😍

[@NegleLir]

HelpfulLockPicker BTW It wasnt this video that helped me. I watched some of your beginner videos. This one was just playing while it happened 😜

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Negle Lir I figured this one would have been an interesting place to start, lol. Congrats on the open and the new skill!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

PHILL DIXON some locks out up a great fight and I agree it's a lot of fun when they turn :)

[@der0keks]

Do all locks have security pins, and if not, why wouldn't they use them? Surely the pins all cost the same

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Not all locks use pins. They are more expensive to manufacture unfortunately

[@charlesklein7232]

the direction of the pins? which is up and down? the "bottom" pins that go into the cylinder have a point at one end and that meets the key! and the flat spot on top meets the top part of the lock i think you call the "bible" that the cylinder goes into. so its point down flat on top. but the rest are confusing! the spools have a thicker part on top or bottom which meets the cylinder? and the "T" pin has me totally confused? is it pointing up or down? how do you know whats pointing to the cylinder in the upper part? have you done a more detailed video showing this? i have not reviewed all your videos? also is their a difference between "kwickset" and "schlage" i see that the kwickset has not a flat but a tapered end and the schlage does not but are they the same "thickness?" can you use one in the other? i noticed that the spool pins and not labeled at all.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

It is sort of where you come from. In the United States Normal is pins at the top of the lock and in Europe normal is pins at the bottom of the lock. I don't like pins at the bottom of the lock because if a spring fails your whole lock can stop working.

[@darenmiller3933]

How much tension are you supposed to use? I understand it can vary and depends etc etc, but how much do YOU use?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Apply tension until all the pins bind and decrease until only one binds and that is the number for that lock assuming all standard pins

[@thomas2051]

Very good Video for beginners I will share this to my Friends 👍

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words and for sharing!

[@TheSilmarillian]

If a lock is designed by a human it can be defeated by a human single picker here :)

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for sharing

[@lifeonatlantis]

this was a really informative video with no fat - thanks so much!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words and I'm happy it helps :)

[@franckdebank]

Fat it surely is

[@bills.4242]

Hi! thanks for all of the info! so interesting! i was wondering way hook picks dont come with "lines" on the shaft so you can see what pin position you are at.. or is that distances between pins are just to varied? thanks!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Every lock has different spacing and also it would be hard to do without a constant insertion depth to zero out the distance

[@bills.4242]

@@HelpfulLockPickeri see..thanks! it so hard trying to figure out what pin i'm on.. sometimes.. i guess it just comes with experience! one more question if you dont mind. sometimes i push a pin and the cylinder will sink down a little more but not enough for the lock to open.. don't know if that is good or not.. should i release tension to return the cylinder to the original spot.. or does it just depend? :)

[@alainaval]

@@bills.4242 sounds like that may be because of a spool pin.

[@louigamez6384]

These pins will make it easier to pick locks if they are serrated cuz of reverse picking

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

I have done a video on reverse picking and it is not the easiest feat to consistently pull off. All serrated pins is much easier but if you add standard and spool pins it is harder. It is a fun concept that is often not brought up, thanks for sharing!

[@louigamez6384]

Thanks

[@lesrinehart933]

Awesome information

[@lesrinehart933]

Awesome tutorial

[@godzclanslay5814]

6000th

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks for checking it out!

[@718vox]

Do serrated pins all have the same amount of serrations?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

No

[@chetmanly5331]

Pretty straightforward, good video.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks for checking it out

[@VistarCreative]

Excellent video. You are a very good teacher!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words

[@usaamahelkiki]

@HelpfulLockPicker could you please tell me how common security pins would be, what percentage you are likely to come across them and how many security pins on average would be in a standard door lock. Thank you so much for your WONDERFUL WONDERFUL KZbin videos. I just picked my FIRST 3 door LOCKS TODAY!!!!! I’m so happy!! :) all because of you

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

I think it depends on where you live, what type of lock you're working on, Etc. For example many Schlage Locks use multiple Spools, Kwikset may use 1 or 2 spools, American lock uses serrated driver, serrated keypin, and serrated spools, and many Master Locks are all standard

[@Noobsterrrrr]

Best video I’ve seen on this subject yet

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for checking it out

[@davidsims5000]

Awesome video of security pins . Got security pins for my locks but don't know which to use. Different sizes in kit .160 to .200 for kwikset.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

I would opt for the longer one because if you put the shorter one over very short keypins sometimes it sits below the shearline

[@agentfourteen8574]

Where is the best place to buy some pins so I can create my own locks of varying difficulty? Thank you for making your videos, I am really enjoying them.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

CLK Supply is a good source in the US

[@thomassmith7432]

Well presented. I've been watching videos where the presenter says, "...false set," and you explained, perfectly, what that means. Thank you!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps:)

[@arendschrikbarend]

MAN this is awesome. Just started 2 weeks ago and couldn't open some locks no matter how hard I tried. Watched this video with said locks in hand, and got 'em on single pin picking! Thanks!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

thank you for the kind words and I'm glad it helps!

[@MrYTGuy1]

I've actually heard several highly skilled lock pickers say the same thing about security pins. That while difficult at first once you understand them you can actually use the extra feedback they give to make picking them easier. Essentially turning a strength into a weakness.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

It is turning a strength into a weakness any sense but it also does a really great job at thwarting low-skill attacks which is where you really need to be concerned

[@fsb1234]

Great video. Really informative and helped me learn really quickly. Thanks man!!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Glad it helped!

[@JJ_-fp9sj]

Wonderful video, I've had these questions forever and now that I ordered my first picking set I finally decided to learn what all the words that I don't understand mean. My question is: can false sets *only* be caused by spool pins or are there other pins or situation that can cause a false set to occur?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

A false set can be cause by any driver pin that is not uniformly thick throughout

[@farvatron]

Most helpful video EVER!!! Thanks man!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helped :-)

[@ZyteXtrabyte]

i don't have a real lock, but i have a simulator, and i got a 4 pin lock with a security pin

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

thanks for sharing

[@quickplaya]

Why not just use one of each?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

You can do whatever you would like but there is a strategy to optimize them

[@isaac10231]

This is excellent, but next time keep your camera's focus on manual.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

With that camera I did not have that option

[@stephenhammond1745]

I agree with your statement about security pins making SSP easier. I find that now that I'm becoming more proficient at picking security pins I'm having a hard time with the standard pins. They have a totally different feel. So, strange as it may sound, I would rather have a lock filled with spools/serrated pins than with standard pins. Even 1 or 2 standard pins mixed in makes it harder.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

This is a normal thing most of us go through

[@stephenhammond1745]

@@HelpfulLockPicker Yeah. It's the main reason I got the Revolver. Lets you pick normal and 3 types of security pins all without the hassle of re-pinning. Saves a lot of time.

[@WestCoastPat]

Just starting out and have watched and appreciate many videos. My question concerns the diameter of the different types of pins. Are most of the locks shown in teaching videos the same diameter? Or or different diameters used in different brands of locks? Might seem dumb questions, but I have not seen it discussed. Thanks. WestCoastPat

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Most residential locks have the same diameter. The big difference is residential / commerical, padlock, and small pin (like the small Master Locks)

[@WestCoastPat]

@@HelpfulLockPicker Many thanks.

[@AA-co5zv]

Amazing explanation thank you from Canada ❤️

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps!

[@Eddygeek18]

Thanks alot for explaining, i'm thinking of getting into lock picking for fun always been interested in it and it'll be something to do while i'm bored and maybe get a job in it who knows (locksmith not thief lol)

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for the kind words! I am glad this helped explain you understand further:)

[@Eddygeek18]

@@HelpfulLockPicker :) Just purchased my lock picking set with a basic transparent lock then a master lock with a security pin to practice

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

@@Eddygeek18 I wish you luck :)

[@wurstofall]

Where can we buy the security pins?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

CLK Supplies

[@wurstofall]

@@HelpfulLockPicker Perfect! I appreciate it!

[@IVEEEK0203]

A lot of my questions answered in a single video.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

thank you for the kind words and I'm glad it helped :-)

[@Void-vv7mk]

Ok but what is a security pin :/ ?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

A pin that makes low skill picking attacks more difficult

[@Void-vv7mk]

@@HelpfulLockPicker why thank you, very helpful :) and very accurate to my current skill level lol

[@Ianjowett1]

getting used to security ins right now and yeah too right you do get good feedback on those but still go back to practice on standard pinning too , cant to attack the dimples when my tools arrive though. need to try some wafers too ive yet to have a go at a wafer lock, im still a noob though so im sure i will get my paws on a wafer lock soon , just made friends with a guy who is a local locksmith and he has offered help , he doesnt pick though so we will swap skills , he was amazed i was into picking , he cuts locks but knows tons about how locks work and going to spend a bit of time with him , he was asking about jigglers, had a ford with a lock that he couldnt open... i did it for him in a half hour, not fast but got him into his car

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Ian Jowett I raked my truck lock with the James Bond set in 10 seconds lol

[@Ianjowett1]

awsome !!!

[@mikeodell5915]

Thank u.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

You're welcome

[@stig..locks..r956]

very good info on the pins well done keep it up thanks stiglocks..r

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks stiglocks!

[@bonneytony]

Good video

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks for checking it out!

[@eagleeyeviewimages]

Awesome 👍

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thank you for checking it out

[@generalralph6291]

Every man needs a bag of tricks.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

thanks for checking it out!

[@jeffcarter7459]

Pvlb

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks

[@techhelpportal7778]

Why do you use comic sans

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

thank you for your question

[@techhelpportal7778]

@@HelpfulLockPicker you didn't awnser me

[@emanuelcamilleri5070]

How do you know what pin is in the lock

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

emanuel camilleri you can tell by the feedback the pin gives you when you are picking it

[@shahabshafiee3333]

Great video, tired voice

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Thanks for checking it out

[@usaamahelkiki]

Can u please explain in easier words???!!!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Which part?

[@usaamahelkiki]

Oh dw I understood everything thx after watching 5 hrs of your nice @HelpfulLockPicker KZbin channel😁😁

[@W4ReLL]

Can you make a video on how pick locks with mushroom drivers ?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

I plan to down the road, I am currently taking a small Hiatus on the series but I plan to get back to it soon

[@W4ReLL]

@@HelpfulLockPicker Great, can't wait to see new tutorials! Now I'm stuck after getting on real locks, I think I opened them with luck, I don't know what I'm doing wrong if it's too much or not tension, if the locks are too old and need lubrication or if I overset pins... But I'll definitively practice, practice, practice 😎

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Practice makes the biggest difference. Sometimes a lock being old and worn can work for or against you. The next thing I would like to get going in the series is serrated pins.

[@xxXthekevXxx]

I was hoping you’d have T pins in the video. I just saw one in LockPickingLawyer’s video #860 and was wanting to know more about them and see them in action!

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

They work a lot like spool pins

[@gordmclean802]

Is there a source for acrylic lock parts?

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

You can buy more pins online. Which parts would you be looking for?

[@gordmclean802]

HelpfulLockPicker the plastic cover, a pinning kit, and the tray you use.

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

@@gordmclean802 I got my pinning kit on CLK supply and my tray on Amazon.

[@xxXthekevXxx]

Gord Mclean you could easily fashion your own cover just cut out a piece of plastic or wood, sand it, and drill some holes into it for screws

[@gregtunston5162]

well done

[@HelpfulLockPicker]

Greg Tunston thank you for the kind words!