(1144) Challenge: Trap Lock (almost...)

In this video I take on a hand-built challenge lock from Bill Clegg containing trap pins (almost) designed to defeat picking attempts.
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[@tradermonk9403]

Thanks Bill, I realy like the commentary.. lots of good instructive information. Kind of like attending a college level seminar.

[@bosnianbill]

Thank you! I couldn't ask for a higher compliment.😍

[@2lefThumbs]

I love the joy you get across in these videos, from initial assessment to gutting, you're keen to find out and to explain (which you do perfectly)

[@lazyprimitive]

The super light tension is going to make it hard for anyone to trap you. Love the Hot Corn cart at the end. :-)

[@KastaRules]

Looks like a tiny *plug* to avoid the driving pin getting permanently stuck in the construction hole.

[@sarnold1277]

Interesting lock! Great pick!!!!!

[@dirk4926]

I like the clear pinning tray.

[@noahhoward390]

Cool pinning tray, Bill

[@SilentSniperVT]

i just started getting into lock picking because of your videos. been at it for 2 weeks i have a lot to learn

[@bryanmathis224]

hello bosnianbill I wanna just say thanks for the great content and opening my eyes I've been going through all your videos trying to learn as much as I can. and you got me interested in picking again and smarting up on my security just wanna say thanks.

[@72cmcinc]

Always impressive!

[@wdog103]

It's to keep the "trap" pin from falling down in the ball bearing hole

[@aphenclips8623]

Exactly. I made a t-pin for a kwikset lock and when I turned it 90 degrees with the key the pin fell into another hole and I was forced to take top of the bible off to get it unstuck. He probably had to do the same thing since the top was taped down.

[@keithschrack]

Yup...there to prevent a trap, rather than to spring one.

[@MonkeyLockpicks]

I agree with you, I think is for preventing the T-pin to fall into that hole.

[@jamespressley6882]

Just seen lock picking under stress......Lmfao. Great picking skills bill, keep the vids coming there great!

[@RoeLunatic4ever]

Nice pick bill!

[@jamesmurphy8014]

Nice pick!

[@peterpiso7384]

Thanks learning so much

[@peterdambra6387]

That master pin is there to allow the smooth operation with the key. Without it the trap pin would catch the trap cutout. so in affect the master actually becomes a Top Pin to cover the trap pin point. Nice design, adding another one or two would make it much more a challenge. But I'll put my money on Bill to get it open...

[@olivierpoulin7696]

The way the trap lock is, in what I can see, as follow: If you don't push the T-pin in second high enough, you turn and it stop in the groove. once there, you can't push the pin up since it hit the side of the bible and you can't turn back since both parts are side by side. I think Bill just got lucky today. P.S. Sorry for bad explanation. Doing it quick tonight.

[@HarvestAgainstNature2025]

Hey Bill love your videos

[@bosnianbill]

Thank you!

[@solareon]

Pin 2 had 4 pins inside it. That explains the dragging and high tension. Had the 2nd pin been picked to the 1st sheer line (just the undercut pin) it would have dropped into the construction ball hole and it would have locked up. The trap only works one time due to using the key causes the small t pin piece to drop into the construction hole and disarm the trap. The piece that disarms the trap is in slot six at the end.

[@feirisWheel]

Bill, my best guess is that if that extra "pin" wasn't in behind pin 2 that little Driver pin would have fallen into that hole and locked the cylinder.

[@TheLockLizard]

Plug in the side prevents trap pin dropping into the ball bearing hole.

[@KaitouKaiju]

Such unparalleled skill

[@heruhcanedean]

I've been watching these videos for a while now but I've never even tried picking. I just put in my order to learnlockpicking for the 7 pin tumbler with 14 pick set and tweezers. Now I just have to impatiently wait for them to show up. Thanks for another potential addiction. Noticed on the lock-lab site they aren't listed under your trusted sites tho.

[@richardpeterson3753]

Heruhcane Dean it's fun. my wife has a shit fit every time but I use the locks on my doors lol. she has a point but until she gets me practice locks I'm stuck with what is available lol. locks are the ultimate puzzle.

[@miatatommy2000]

The only thing lacking in your arsenal is a mini acetylene torch,hardened steel melts real easy.

[@rogerhudson9732]

Dear Bill.. Great videos, but.... could you do a video on what you would use to lock a high security house door that was proof against entry (covert?) by a locksmith with all the tools. Even my 7 lever detainer mortice is vulnerable to a special tool.

[@roamingcelt]

Maybe the plug was to keep the trap pin from getting permanently stuck. Which is probably the reason for the tape. Most likely he picked it and seized the lock having to dismantle it to fix the issue.

[@smuckerst8355]

The construction hole might be covered so the t pin doesnt fall into the hole. Thats why that small peice of brass might be there.

[@arzo9986]

Will you do a video of picking a pretty difficult lock while it's upside down. Like pins on the bottom

[@jcunning067]

Am I the only one who thinks that he got very lucky and didn't pick the master wafer to the shear-line? The way I'm seeing the gutting, unless the pin was already in the trap hole, the master wafer would have prevented him from doing past that point if the wafer fell in with the pin.

[@InvAltDM]

I wondered if maybe that side pin was there to interact with the wafer for some reason, but if it doesn't make any contact I've no idea.

[@samnesbitt9735]

Do you need to sign up every time or is once good?

[@draconicone28]

If I had to guess on pin 2 I'd say if you hadn't picked it correctly then the tiny bit wouldn't have fallen in the hole and instead the trap pin would have, making the lock stuck until gutting it. Just my guess tho since it would only be effective once and would do no good as actual lock just a challenge one.

[@johnbeauvais3159]

Does the kwikset core fit in the schlage Bible? Could I start with a kwikset practice lock and just use a schlage core once I get better?

[@debug9424]

The pin spacing is different, so it wouldn't work. Have a look at this: web.archive.org/web/20050217020917fw_/dlaco.com/spacing/tips.htm

[@JohnDoe-fn1me]

Hi Bosnianbill, Where can I buy these kits that these two guys won in a giveaway? I would like to learn too. Thanks

[@Sortskjegg]

The adress for the site is on the box in the video (learnlockpicking.com).

[@JohnDoe-fn1me]

Roger Niva thanks 😁

[@DaHoodedBandit]

Bill do you do professional services or Is this just a hobby? If so, what state of the USA would you be in because I am currently looking for a locksmith to unjam a door lock.

[@bosnianbill]

Sorry Stefan, it is just a hobby and I don't offer locksmithing services. Any local locksmith should be able to help you with a jammed door lock.

[@richardpeterson3753]

I'm currently having the opposite issue lol. my door lock could be picked with a dirty look. I got reasonably lucky and the lock guy at my hardware store gave me a few spool and t pins. no charge. not sure if he was supposed to do that but I'll take it lol. on a major budget sadly. if I can't make this lock harder to pick by adding some security pins, I'm gonna have to break down and save for the six pin schlag I saw. almost a 200$ lock. it's ridiculous. not really sure what all I can really do to beef up this kwickset though. might be beating a dead horse here. I wasn't paying attention to name brand when I baught it, had a wife funding over prices, and the wife can be the ultimate nemisis lol. but lessons learned, never in your life buy a kwickset. they should rename themselves to kwickentry. not sure on the stuck lock. can't see it lol. few things could cause that and with no Intel it would be pure speculation. and after 6 months I'm gonna hazard a guess and say it's already fixed lol.

[@richardpeterson3753]

will say one thing for bill though. for just a hobby, this guy is a damn gangster with a lock pick. if bill ever went bad, he would go real bad lol. but much love and respect for him. he is truly a gifted man with this skill, and has been an awesome help to all of us

[@tylerhensley2312]

Is it sad that I have never tried to pick a lock but I can tell exactly what is happening just from watching you pick locks?

[@SgtKOnyx]

Tyler Hensley no sir

[@sheadjohn]

maybe the extra piece was just keeping anything from falling into the hole.

[@fluffsipad7462]

The plug the pin from locking up the lock for good

[@PastorDwanye]

Bill often uses picks with the thickness embossed on the end; and he says they're from 'the practice kit'. Does anyone know where these picks come from?

[@dshipley]

PastorDwanye Praxis Kit (by Dangerfield)

[@dshipley]

Praxis Kit (by Dangerfield)

[@aphenclips8623]

They come from rareelementlockpicks.com/. He has suspended orders due to Bill's videos for the time being. I already got more order in though ;)

[@SgtKOnyx]

And everyone already said it

[@PastorDwanye]

6:43 - 15 thousandths medium hook from the 'Practice Kit'. What is the practice kit, and where do these picks come from?

[@handoftheking4123]

This is to any lockpickers out there. I plan to use two abus 20/70 locks with two abus 10 ks chains to lock both wheels and the frame of my bike to a pole of some sort. Would this deter a potential thief? I don't want to drive anymore. And I can ride long distances. Thanks for any constructive input.

[@richardpeterson3753]

Glans oftheKing all I will say is this. picking is not a theifs only tool. you have to consider all vulnerability. can the lock be bypassed? can the lock and/or chain be cut?.can the wheels be removed?. often bike thrives have spare parts, and intend to mod the stolen bike to Dodge bike Id, so he don't care if he leaves a part or two behind. look at every angle. and finally consider ease of use on your end. a super secure lock is not very helpful to you if it's too inconvenient for you to use, especially if you need to lock and unlock it daily. and multiple times a day. I used to have lowriders, so I know the pain. had one guy use a damn cutting torch to cut the chain for one. so on that note, one means to prevent theft of a bike is to have a very undesirable bike to begin with. if it's a peice of shit, but gets you from a to b, a theif is less likely to pull out all the stops to steal it. a 2000$ custom built limo bike on the other hand is just asking for trouble. having a good lock is just a minor part of the puzzle my friend.

[@jamjams690]

what he should've did was made those construction ball holes bigger to match the pin holes then maybe when you turned it it would lock up the bible pins would shoot down in the holes problem with that is it would do it with the key to and you couldn't unlock it

[@SgtKOnyx]

jam jam's you could remove the pins from the top in this case

[@shadeshiest22]

How do we enter in the giveaways????

[@tradermonk9403]

Yes Bill... not sure how the monthly giveaways work.

[@SgtKOnyx]

Nick Hall go to lock-lab.com and enter. Apparently all entries also enter into the monthly

[@isaiahdominguez6117]

how do you enter the giveaway

[@aphenclips8623]

Go to lock-lab.com and enter one of the giveaway. These are random picked people who win. By entering this automatically enters you in his video monthly giveaway. Also, he just introduced a new way recently, if he can't pick your challenge lock then you'll get some type of prize.

[@CRAZYSKULL2001]

At least it's not a real trap

[@nagyjanos7625]

Someone knows the different standard pins (Yale union, locksmith particie, locksport particie, yale rim, euro cilinder, british standard, ) diameter?? i want to buy trap pins i do not know what's up to my lock ( euro elzett xt pin size 3mm , abus d6 pin size 2.5mm). Someone could help me with that?

[@andersjjensen]

Schalge, Kwikset, Sargent, Assa, TrioVing, Ruko, Lockwood, Yale etc uses 2.8mm pins in 3mm holes - If the pin size is not listed this is the size you get.

[@richardpeterson3753]

that seems accurate. I was just at a smithy today getting security pins, and the schlage and kwickset pins, only two he carried, where both same diameter. top pins all seemed same length as well actually. this was just in spool and t pin. just observation from eye balling it, I didn't take them to a micrometer.

[@chainsaw2046]

Yeeeet

[@wcooper1499]

t pin blocker.

[@BeanoTheElder]

First

[@BeanoTheElder]

I don't know why I did that, it felt good though.

[@Xenon1825]

RedTenshaw Chill