115 grain vs 147 grain 9mm

[@ElCineHefe]

The 115 grain went BAnG. The 147 grain went BaNG.

[@gr1m5H4d3]

147 went 🅱️AnG

[@DF-ec9de]

LMAO😂😂😂😂

[@DaxTheRipperX]

That red dot view is beautiful.

[@pod9363]

Looks like the Battlefield Bad Company 2 red dot

[@yeejay6396]

Hmmhmm! Especially the haze of the dot itself! ​@@pod9363

[@vegeta420z6]

@pod9363 looks like a Trijicon SRO.

[@keres993]

@@vegeta420z6 or possibly the Gideon Omega? In any case, the huge window is *amazing*

[@vegeta420z6]

​@@keres993Its hard to say without getting a better look at the side. I'd never even heard of the Gideon. Looked in his channel he has a bunch of shorts with and SRO mounted on his pistols but then he has a couple with the Bul armory MS-2 (Which also looks very similar to the SRO.)

[@seanmccarty1176]

The reason 115 sounds like that is it's a slightly lighter supersonic projectile. You're hearing the sonic boom too.

[@griffithguns1776]

And a bit more powder

[@Thevoicemasta]

You been training with the 147 grain more huh, I can tell because you were hitting low with the 115 grain

[@Ffhjghtf1000]

Very good observation

[@atrufriend2u]

I train and carry 147 in my EDC

[@Jace8637]

He’s been training more with 147? Lol No, he’s just using the red dot and the heft makes 147 less snappy. Read a fucking physics book! 😂

[@3Diiii]

Or he has the red dot sighted it for the 147gr 🤷‍♂️

[@Thevoicemasta]

@@3Diiii at that distance it shouldn’t make a difference.

[@Texasbroski512]

That red dot is zeroed beautifully

[@mr_m_cinco2168]

I wish I could get my SRO to zero precisely. I slave mine over my suppressor height sight i believe a 1/3 co witness.

[@Mabuhay808]

The 147gr hit different 😎

[@user-nm8cg6rh4q]

Almost the kick of a 40

[@AngryStoner]

How are there so many bullet holes in the ceiling? Cmon people

[@Jordan-ql6tm]

Sure sign the range has plenty of the sideways gangsterette crew and the soft hands tea-cup grip I only take my gun out twice a year and have a neighborhood watch sign out in the yard rocking a sheep dog T-shirt armchair operator cat's showing their presents by scratchin the ceiling with their leet skills lol.

[@CaolanSuibhne]

The amount of gun ranges I've seen on YT with holes just above people's heads is worrying... I know freedom is for everyone but some of you fuckers out there shouldn't own firearms 😂😂😂

[@Nick-qf5zl]

I've yet to see an indoor range that didn't have holes in the ceiling 😐

[@AngryStoner]

@@Nick-qf5zl people suck

[@dmcd7333]

It is the brotha's and them holding the pistol sideways.... they tend to jerk the trigger into the ceiling... or Mr. Magoo is target practicing again.

[@nobodyatall7039]

I have consistently found 147 grain bullets to be the most accurate in every 9mm pistol I've ever owned (10+ Glocks and several others). This is true regardless of bullet or ammo manufacturer. Hornady custom 147 XTP will shoot less than 1" groups at 25 yards out of every Glock I've ever owned from a rest.

[@VABlueRidgeExplorer]

1” groups at 25 yards out of a handgun? Damn son you need to start competing

[@tlc239]

🐂 💩

[@zrx1100zz]

+1 for 147grain👍

[@blakegrunwell5442]

Same here also noticed similar results with 127gr

[@braydenbunker218]

​@@VABlueRidgeExplorer just cause you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done lol. We where driving tack hole groups without a rest or table at 100 yards with the ak iron sights the other day lol

[@iM0rb1d]

So you zeroed with the 147 grn?

[@YaYa-ke1zr]

Video shows that the shooter seems more comfortable with the 147 but is good with either. Could also be a benefit that the slower tempo of the 147 allows the dot to hold its place longer. The dot is not as ‘jumpy’. I find that most shooters do well with 115 or 147 but if they are going to struggle or need to adjust, it will typically be with 124. When our range classes provide ammo, we give them 115. I prefer 147. But my guns prefer 124. So 124 it is.

[@seanmccarty1176]

I carry 124 grain +p federal HST. So I use fiocchi 115 to train. It's poi is about third same as 124 +p and it's loaded a bit hot

[@YaYa-ke1zr]

@@seanmccarty1176 Yup, Fiocchi is known to load on the hot side… except in 5.7.

[@seanmccarty1176]

@@YaYa-ke1zr I haven't bought a 5.7 pistol, I heard they're fun but expensive to run. If I had to buy one it'd probably be the psa rock 57

[@YaYa-ke1zr]

@@seanmccarty1176 Yes I’d recommend either that one or the S&W. My Rock has only had one issue and it was due to the optic attachment. It’s a fun shooter but I use it for home defense due to the bullet design. I don’t plink with it.

[@doublepiedavid8908]

Hot take of the day. Pistol bullets should be as light as possible for most situations. Bullets damage by shedding energy, and bullets shed velocity easier than by shedding mass. 375 ft/lb carried by a 9mm will have more effect on target than 375 ft/lb carried by a 45, because the 9mm energy will be more efficiently transferred than the 45. That said, a bullet needs to have energy to shed in order to have any effect on target at all, so 5.7 (less energy than the already weak 9mm) isn't too effective. 10mm has twice the energy as 9mm, transferred mostly via velocity without sacrificing mass, so it is likely more than twice as effective as 9mm. .357 magnum has the same energy as 10mm but more velocity based, so it is probably even more effective.

[@user-lo4er8wy9l]

Nice. Could you provide the makes of both ammo, so we can compare specs?

[@Urbano_V]

What is that 25yd 115 grain maybe I should bump up my grain a little and try 147 🤔

[@keeeeeeenny4343]

We all need more first person pov shots like this

[@josephdoby6411]

Is it just me or do the groups seem tighter with the 147 grain?

[@tjay9764]

I think he had to just find his groove tbh it's not a reflection on the round

[@blackicekck9family379]

Heavier your ammo, the more accurate

[@Z_BoyPanduh]

That one shot with the 147 on the far right really shows how well that optic is zeroed

[@NotaLoka777]

😂

[@tyquanwashington.8510]

If you look carefully the dot was exactly where that bullet hit. Has nothing to do with zero.

[@crypticreality8484]

​@@tyquanwashington.8510precisely

[@randyc5650]

@@tyquanwashington.8510 That means it was zeroed.

[@tyquanwashington.8510]

@@randyc5650 that's exactly my point lol

[@AKok762]

What an educational test i learned so much! 😂

[@Frohman5584]

It’s all deadly!

[@mr_m_cinco2168]

How many of y’all have a Zero so precise?

[@nickperez9560]

Everyone thinks youre better with 147 but i know you just pulled those first few shots. But you had good trigger pulls pretty much from there on out, very nice

[@Zdzislew]

I’m new to pistol shooting, but even i’m not hitting the ceiling. It suprises how many holes there are at this range as well as the one i go to that are just all over the ceiling

[@KPad87]

How many yards is that ?

[@EricQuinn]

which bullet weight was your red dot zeroed with?

[@benitob2037]

Bro went up a whole caliber 😂, how did you position the camera to pick up the dot?

[@RogelioFuentesRamos]

What pistol is that

[@timothygarrett9372]

I recently discovered my FN likes the 147's better than the 115's.

[@armanywero5686]

Same to me!

[@richardkrueger9097]

I have a Walter PDP doesn't matter what I shoot, it seems pretty accurate. and I haven't found anything it won't shoot. Loves the liberty 50 gr. stupid fast round, Max damage.

[@fordmech7913]

147 don’t play 😂

[@davelightboy7246]

Put em on a colostomy bag😂

[@Just_Dash]

Did you zero with the 147 grain?

[@bsbcrawler4x4]

Poderia ter utilizado alvos diferentes. Ficou uma bagunça e não dá para entender nada

[@historyhunter5215]

124 and up plus p are ALOT more efficient in blowback style pistols.

[@reptalien_music]

Your aim was all over the place when you were shooting the 115 gr.

[@vaden706]

It’s called recoil

[@EnriquetheSquirrel]

All the shit i keep hearing about RED DOTs being better than iron sights this is video right here is the best argument to get one.

[@DavidRodriguez-ot2ky]

What is that optic

[@NewGen901]

Where can I get the targets

[@richardkrueger9097]

If you took you time you could have bullseye that target. why don't you have co-witness sights? the dot is great, and zeroed. but what about a backup?

[@deadtofall09]

I think your gun prefers 147.

[@mateocalle2837]

Thats what I usually used 147

[@watchmedo4276]

I love the dot sight but the one I want cost more than my gun so it’s a hard buy

[@megaman4201]

Can someone tell me what do you call that kind of sight?

[@rodneykeen7258]

That appears to be the Trijicon SRO

[@megaman4201]

@@rodneykeen7258 Thanks!

[@dontprayforme]

The other reply is correct. That’s a Trijicon SRO. It’s considered a micro/miniature reflex sight (or micro red dot whichever you prefer I guess). Essentially designed to be small enough to mount on handguns while being rugged enough so they can continue to stay/work while being on a handgun slide. There are a literal ton of micro reflex options on the market these days it seems like. Mounting options aren’t standardized either, just a tip there if you’re looking at getting one at any point. Just know what it’s going to take to actually mount it to a handgun.

[@riiddisbuk2496]

It's all fun and games until it's... *not* :P Also, what weapon?

[@jasobones7093]

Brought over bore. Train it.

[@richardkrueger9097]

Now go to the liberty 50 gr. and see the 2100 fps. nothing touches it.!!!!!

[@mannygomez3577]

I can hear the difference

[@mattparish4451]

It seems like some of the rounds hit right where the dot was, and then some of them were like 6 in off?

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

No he was very jumpy and that dot was all over the place.

[@codyhill2507]

Yeah when you zero with a 147g ammo it’s more accurate than the 115g you didnt zero with

[@drock890]

What targets are those?

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

Those are splatter targets so you can see where they land, real good for zero'ing your gun. Thats all i use are splatter targets so i know where my ammo lands each time.

[@nr-xi8sr]

Funny when the 147 shots start going, the close caption says "music" lol

[@benbaker8886]

If you zero with 147 grain, then you should stick with that. If you make a significant change in ammo, re-zero. I take it to the extent of using expensive hunting ammo for practice in my hunting rifle. I want my zero to be perfect when I’m hunting.

[@Ffhjghtf1000]

What’s a good 124 gn hp 9mm?

[@kevinmoore6640]

Critical duty 124gr, Speer gold dot 124gr +p Federal HST and fed punch if you can't find thag

[@TerminalM193]

Stay away from Hornady... Overpriced and less effective. If you were forced to pick a 124g then Federal HST 124g "both standard pressure and +p" has the best terminal performance across a wide range of scenarios. Speer Gold Dot 124g +p is a very close second. Both of these rounds can be found in 50ct boxes for anywhere from 30-43 bucks. Good luck finding Hornady in anything bigger than 20ct boxes and when you do it's practically $1+ a round. Recoil Gunworks just had a sale on HST and gold dots. Free shipping and 30 bucks a box for any HST weight and pressure and same for gold dot.

[@michaelm.7382]

Try Underwood Extreme Defense or Underwood Extreme Penetration for EDC . I use Underwood Extreme Penetration and Federal 147 grain for the woods. I put down a 270 pound Black Bear using the Federal 9MM 147 grain +P synthetic solid core. Fired 9 rounds at 20 yards, 5 were fatal. The bear dropped from a dead on charge approximately 7 yards from me. That bear wasn't the only thing that dropped that day. But I and my family walked away unscathed.

[@reyt2304]

I can’t believe he didn’t get them all in the red using a red dot also I would have expected better groups

[@stephenbustos]

He wasn't taking time to re-aim after each shot, just dropping the gun back into the zone and firing after each recoil. That's a pretty good grouping for that type of drill.

[@Rol0123]

What some good brands for 9mm fmj indoor shooting range that is clean? I shot herters 9mm and it was very smoky.

[@Wreckfinata]

Palmetto state armory, AAC 9mm

[@mmafanatic-tz5or]

Federal and browning is very clean

[@Wreckfinata]

MAXX Tech is also good

[@mishutkin101]

Herters is just rebranded Winchester ammo

[@nobodyatall7039]

CCI Blazer. It's a fully plated bullet, no exposed lead.

[@Diamondranchfarmstead]

What’s easier to manage for a beginner gun owner?

[@cortecharmory]

147 or the Federal Syntech 150. The heavier grains tend to make the gun less snappy. 124 grains is sort of the middle ground and most popular.

[@mdubb4855]

​@@cortecharmorythanks I had the same question

[@federanger]

@@cortecharmory try 65 grain 9mm they a so soft

[@todrickwilliams5190]

Are those 40 or 45 bullets?

[@shawnperico7221]

It’s nine millimeter

[@mattparish4451]

Is that the trijicon?

[@John12Dee]

Trijicon SRO for sure

[@sir_prize_ma_the_farcar4547]

Both can kill that's all that matters 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Rich_EDC]

What brand is your red dot?

[@nikerunning1995]

Trigicon SRO Roughly 700$

[@fj1914]

@@nikerunning1995 can I buy it online on Amazon. Also will it be compatible on my Glock 43 X Mos

[@Jordan-ql6tm]

​@@fj1914test

[@John12Dee]

@@fj1914 You can but won't be comfortable if your carrying it.

[@usernamesrlamo]

Running an optic on a carry piece is dumb AF. Makes it way more awkward to carry and vast majority of defensive situations are point blank where trying to look down a dot is actually going to slow you down.

[@Drawde907]

I thought dots were sposed to help you hit the target . These comments thinking this is good shooting 🤔🤯

[@flowerfire7]

Because 115 maybe faster than sound

[@yoboo8357]

what???

[@TheCoon1975]

They're both supersonic rounds.

[@LinkxUSMC87]

​@@TheCoon1975 147gr is generally subsonic in most cases.

[@timmydukez9211]

How many yards was this

[@hawghawg381]

15

[@alm9951]

I think it was a mile. 9 millie meetre is good for 2 miles with 1 inchie group. The end. Thank you.

[@hawghawg381]

@@alm9951 with the correct marksmanship. But you will never have that ability.

[@southpaw602]

​@@hawghawg381out of a 50" $20k match barrel. piece of cake🤗

[@RyanBlaze]

115 is more accurate and faster and more distance as well

[@MilesHoppus]

Better at distance but the heavier ammo will pack a punch closer up. The holes were bigger with the heavy ammo

[@TerminalM193]

Not true whatsoever. Accuracy isn't dependent on weight but rather a whole host of compounding variables like depth of case mouth, how the bullet is actually pressed into the cartridge body, the powder charge and plenty of other factors.... When it comes to accuracy though, one factor is always king and that's consistency. Every cartridge in every single box of ammunition are almost like a snowflake when it comes to comparing each and every round. The rounds within the tightest tolerances will almost always be most accurate when doing groups..... Now, when it comes to distance, as a whole 147g will be much more accurate across a much wider point of distance. If you were to graph the trajectory of both rounds on a 50 yard scale you will find that the 115g has a MUCH more aggressive curve from point A to B while the 147g will have a much more flat curve that's less aggressive. The 147g has a MUCH better ballistic coefficient because of its weight. It suffers less from both gravity and wind. Luckily these factors will hardly never matter in a real self defense scenario where 98% of the time your target is no further than 7 yards..... Even at 25 yards your point of aim / impact is almost negligible with CONSISTENT ammunition...

[@caldwell5078]

For having a red dot he is very inaccurate! Bad trigger control

[@zzrzz6199]

115 is too snappy for me

[@seofelite]

This small difference in grain isn't actually making any significant difference in recoil. Anecdotal example aside (this video), there are chronography tests to measure this variation.

[@Jace8637]

@@seofelitelol ok

[@buddahsac3195]

In combination with other remedies it's a nice addition.

[@Jace8637]

@@seofeliteYou’re wrong.

[@TerminalM193]

​@@seofeliteDepending on the specific load, in most cases 147g felt recoil is "softer" when compared to 124g & 115g. There's so many different factors to take account of this result but for the most part it's definitely discernable.

[@pattonjames8060]

So What ??

[@duhdumify]

Grain=“gr”

[@seofelite]

I don't see any difference in recoil direction or magnitude between the two grains, nor any difference in accuracy for that matter. I mean, if you're only shooting like 20-25 yards downrange you're not getting any performance benefit with heavier weight. Love the red dot

[@kevinmoore6640]

Sound difference, and certainly more recoil

[@Jace8637]

Good thing is we don’t need you to see any difference. However, those of us that aren’t blind do see the difference.

[@mrdark9916]

Tighten up, youre all over the place lol 😂

[@deenyc1049]

Either way that guy is dead.

[@MrSparks851]

Red dot??

[@mythical4514]

SRO

[@user-rj5ch1rf4z]

Finally a worthy video. Thank you for an actual comparison and not just showing your body from a far. You have to teach the others your ways. Keep doing what you do plz

[@kcgfy81]

How you film this? Google glasses?

[@brokeboytactical4397]

115 shoots low

[@halo37526]

147 is usually what I use for a lot of stuff but surprisingly I found 50 grain YES 50 GRAIN that's insane and I love the stuff hits like a truck and fragments while expanding due to it being a hollow point

[@sleepyhead9756]

I can shoot better with irons than you can with a dot

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

where is your video ?

[@dontprayforme]

Yeah I was the same way, but I feel like anyone used to irons over the the micro dots would honestly. Simply slapping the latest mini reflex sight on a handgun isn’t going to magically make anyone a USPSA Grandmaster lol. If they don’t have the basics down or much trigger time with handguns; it won’t make much difference for them. I wish it did work like that though lmao. If you’re already used to shooting handguns, and take the time to consistently shoot with a dot for even a little bit, yeah it can make a some difference. Anymore I shoot about the same with either. Maybe *slightly* faster on follow ups with the micro red dots.

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

@@dontprayforme irons require 2 steps to line up where the red dot is 1 dot on target.

[@rswayne100]

Not really any difference unless you’re shooting suppressed. The 147’s are much quieter.

[@Jace8637]

140gr was best outta my AAC EVO 9 suppressor 😊

[@rswayne100]

@@Jace8637 I’ve never seen 140 grain 9mm ammo anywhere

[@Workerbee-zy5nx]

Looks the same..

[@georgemitchell9244]

They both make holes in papers and you need to practice more.

[@ktmxcw4501]

What a shit take. He isnt asking for an evaluation of his one handed shooting skills while recording it. He is showing the felt recoil difference between the two.

[@dimains6011]

He's aiming through a camera, Elmer.

[@plmkoo6772]

He's aiming through a camera, Elmer.

[@Jace8637]

These comments lol

[@powderedbuns8251]

Using an optic on a pistol is cheating! You can be the worst shooter in the world and get amazing groups with a red dot

[@bestjobieverhad9584]

Yeah, but learning the skill of picking up the dot while you draw. Takes ALOT of dryfire

[@coyotes5504]

That is wildly inaccurate. It takes skill to use.

[@nobodyatall7039]

Using a pistol is cheating. You should only use karate.

[@bestjobieverhad9584]

@@nobodyatall7039 🤔

[@JoseCortez-le5yn]

Well, that's the point of a red dot. more accuracy, more shots on target, & a faster target acquisition than the good ol irons.

[@bh848]

This shows nothing for difference between a heavy and light round not like the 100 fps difference is visible

[@SwampOperator]

It shows the difference in recoil and its effect on sight picture during rapid fire you absolute twatwaffle

[@DuvalRypr]

Which RDS is that bro?

[@mythical4514]

Trijicon SRO