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[@ProjectKamp]

Crowdfund + download all the documents of the digger here 💪 projectkamp.com/digger Put your ideas/suggestions and tips below 👇

[@MrBubba311]

I have nothing to add other than my support.

[@StudioBhobho]

The first place of contact should be your bank (they'll flag that bank account for any future transfers to it) , and report the issue to the UK National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC). The reason why the guy was responding to you promptly, was because he was waiting for the money to be cleared by your through the SWIFT network. We all live and learn, don't take it to heart

[@ImVisiblePro]

Maybe you could reach or get in contact with other youtube channels that help scam victims to collab in this case, or look for an org in Portugal/Ireland

[@NoxuGaming]

Use The Dutch company Gelden b.v Wijchen they are used to international shipping an probebly cheaper then others

[@bondemaanco.1166]

1. Did you speek to Keith Ian FERGUSON? 2. What about 21 Carnlea Rd, Ballymena BT43 6TS, Storbritannien?

[@metalhead2550]

You need to flag this to the Serious Organized Crime Agency, the National Crime Agency and Serious Fraud Office here in the UK and flag it to them to investigate in more depth

[@xyl9l]

its not UK, it's NI

[@TheHyperTank]

@@xyl9l "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"

[@StephenAryan44]

@@xyl9l what does "occupied part of Ireland" mean?

[@Weissleder_]

they not gonna do nothing and there is already an investigation on going from the real shipping company

[@zoejay]

​@@StephenAryan44 occupied part of Ireland by the British

[@robertkendzie3]

For anyone else who is trying to import any large value shipment: consider setting up a Letter of Credit(LoC) payment with a trusted bank. The bank holds the payment funds in escrow until the terms of the LoC are fulfilled. This usually includes presentation of original (not copies!) shipping documents to the bank that can be verified before payment is released (Usually an original BIll of Lading from the shipping company). The Terms can also include Proof of Delivery (PoD) documents that insure that the funds are not released until the goods are received.

[@VinceW187]

Professional advice

[@StaceNyourFace]

Excellent advice! 👍😉

[@heraldocosta1469]

Excellent advice !!

[@MrBubba311]

Any idea of the bank fee charge for this kind of service?

[@TaaviJuursalu]

@@MrBubba311 it depends on the amount transferred but usually starts of few hundred euros.

[@thegreatdodo5092]

Banks can re-book money for 90 days. Make that ASAP, go to the police and make the scam official, give that to the bank as proof, and get a lawyer just in case the bank says it can't do anything.

[@espenboholm1112]

got to love banks... :D

[@LadyPoing]

that's what I thought too! They are trying to keep Dave busy.

[@rm6857]

i think they cannot based on transfer they have made, those scammers choose and tell you which transfer to use, send it to account lets say of nonexistent person, and then withdraw money from ATM as fast as possible.

[@Megacheez]

usually only if the money is still in the account, if its gone (ie. transferred to another bank for example) there is no money to rebook, they wont magically make that money re-appear. that would be why they kept dave busy for a while, so they can move the money,

[@nevisscot7697]

If you had paid by credit card i believe you would have been refunded or not???

[@chrisstaniforth5629]

Big up Graham for going out on the recon mission! Top lad!

[@TempleGuitars]

Yes, thank you Graham!

[@All.Natural.Dirt.]

He did great work! Just wish he could've checked it for them before they sent the money

[@pjf2583]

name the digger "Grahams justice"

[@Addora_SheRa]

We love Graham

[@StaceNyourFace]

One red flag for me would be that the company was just incorporated in 2023. 🤔 I'm really sorry that you got scammed. 😔

[@TheCow2face]

Why, new companies are started all the time

[@StaceNyourFace]

@@TheCow2face It's rare that a company so new would already have so many positive reviews. They must have made multiple accounts and left themselves reviews. Boooooo. 👎🙄

[@milhooz]

More red flag would be that the comments were all from early 2024, probably fake but easy to say afterwards

[@Melvin_Kraus]

​@@StaceNyourFace It's definitely not a huge red flag. Maybe a small hint. The Company could be new, 7 ratings are legit. I know companies with 1000+ legit ratings in a year. One of my shops, opened last year is also easy at 150+ without begging for it. maps.app.goo.gl/cc1p4tksPrkZc6N39

[@pf4773]

Wow, so so so true and YES, always check dates of incorporation.

[@RobGibraltar]

'Head of sales department' is the first red flag. Sounds like an offshore scammer.

[@GreenHair81]

Agreed, I'm an American but as a native English speaker there were a few syntax & grammar errors after the first email that started setting off alarm bells in my head.

[@martinmoore9758]

@@GreenHair81 agree about the language. A native speaker might make spelling mistakes when in a hurry, but these were 'official' emails and would/should be revised and edited. But these details can be hard to spot If you're not a native speaker yourself.

[@RobGibraltar]

Mark Mccann (yt) not long ago did an expose on how this scam works; a digital fake front on top of a real unclaimed google maps business, either past or present. I'm sorry the project got scammed.

[@AnhH88]

I agree, it would be something like "Senior Sales Manager" etc.

[@marianaleitebraga]

Although this is such a terrible situation, I was incredibly impressed with your sense of humor and ability to shoot a great video about it. Really rooting for you guys to make the best of this situation - and for them to get caught.

[@user-sk3zi6mr2w]

It s very easy whtn you did not work hard for the money...

[@NateHaleMusic]

@@user-sk3zi6mr2w What a crappy thing to say. Not helpful at all. This community is trying to do something hard. They are planning, rebuilding, renovating, clearing invasive species, reshaping the land, repairing, managing people, feeding people, making electricity, and more. How much time have you spent on the property helping them with their work?

[@betsyolsson-mackowski7682]

I like what @marianaleitebraga said! I feel this way too.

[@devamsaini2713]

Warms my heart to see that nearly 3hours later of uploading the video, they’ve nearly reached 14k in donations

[@IceSpoon]

This video showed us the worst part of humanity. It also promoted the best part

[@alim7042]

19000 as of now 😮

[@SleepyStud]

20,000!

[@blackduckfarmcanada]

@@SleepyStud 24,500 now!

[@NorroTaku]

Involve the police No reason to continue alone with this

[@dreidu]

Agreed the police should have been involved after the first suspicion.

[@artfx9]

The police won't know this scam is happening unless they are informed at least.

[@Hoelstadt]

I was thinking last video that when you looked on Google Maps, "ask one of your irish fans to check out the location". What done is done, and I agree with Dave, make the most out of what happens.

[@spicynomad]

he should have done that before paying anything. i have gotten scammed before. use a third party so i can get my money back. the nature of my business it happens.

[@alybyrne4142]

Me too! Maybe when they get enough money the lovely gentlemen can help check it out.

[@billyoniell9138]

I had a mate who sent a local taxi to the seller to see if the machine was there in the yard,the driver was into the whole situation and even facetime my mate and showed him the whole yard to prove that he was being scammed ,everybody hates the scammers

[@janinedevilliers510]

Well done to Graham for driving up there to do a recon. 🚘🧐💪 Calling all white hats to locate the scammer. There must be a way.

[@annwelty5812]

Definitely Graham gets a big shout out. Kudos, mate!

[@Rhys_Beer]

The bank should flag the account for fraud. Sad to see how useless the banks and stuff are with assisting or preventing this type of stuff.

[@espenboholm1112]

they keep a clean table

[@ThePapaupa12]

they close the account most of the time and just create a new one under another identity

[@jekker1000]

@@ThePapaupa12 If this was even theirs to begin with. Oftentimes they partake in another scam where the victim is said to transfer the money to another victim's bank account who then transfers it further to another one. I mean even setting up an account is pretty easy, they go to a homeless person and for like 2 bottles of liquor you get an official account. Happens all the time in Germany too. Then you have companies (LTD) with such a straw guy as ceo, oftentimes even German name for increased trust but any money you send gets wired to Dubai the second you put it into their account. Rules are for people that obey them, not globalist scammers

[@onetimeoccam]

"we decided to import it" famous last words

[@das_moendchen3250]

That may be but is really not helping and is just making them feel bad...

[@onetimeoccam]

@@das_moendchen3250 not trying to bash em at all

[@spicynomad]

@@das_moendchen3250 where is your sense of humor, mate?

[@mmollema2978]

Sorry Dave and the rest of PK.. LOL otoc!

[@Teukku]

This actually made me thinking. How Dave found the page of this fake company? "People advised us to import it"... who did? Could it be that the scammer was one of those people?

[@Giorgio825]

2 hours after the upload more than $11k have been donated already! Incredible how dedicated your community is!

[@BM-si2ei]

Let's hope he's wised up and doesn't get scammed again in the next purchase.

[@UntetheredBanshee]

​@@BM-si2ei I think that's probably safe to say. There's some excellent advice in this thread for them to follow now. Especially that letter of credit!

[@theherosavatar7435]

😂 literally 5 hours in, its now over a bit of 16k

[@jednmorf]

Gullable

[@sjaakvaag]

This is a strange technike, but is works .

[@bicycledan]

Don't think you need to be chasing Milo Webb. The guys name on Companies House is Ian Keith Furguson of 21 Carnlea Road, Ballymena. Looks very rural, but maybe send your man there?

[@Kelladoodle]

Came here to say this. Their identity was verified electronically and their address is on the LTD filing documents. I don't see why someone would set up a scam shell 1hr from their house, so potential identity theft included as well

[@gedreillyhomestead6926]

Maybe get the police to visit there first.

[@katesimpson1907]

Ballymena isn’t really that rural - there is also a main Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) station in the town. The station is no more than 2 miles from this address. Online scams need to be investigated by either the country in which the company originates, or the country in which the initial enquiry from a customer originates. This has nothing, thus far, to do with a National Crime Agency, as a poster has suggested. Contact police in Portugal, and PSNI in Northern Ireland - they will keep you right. I really, really hope you make some headway with this - I’ve watched your channel for some time, and I adore your ethos!

[@mdecourcywheeler]

There is also 1 Keith Furguson in Ballymena on LinkedIn, so its either identify fraud or a very silly scammer.

[@missbobbypinn2165]

Can you connect with private investigators so as to offer them this data, if they combine it with their clients info they might be able to add some more pieces to the puzzle and find this "#!@&" (

[@markcallaghan843]

Man this is a very tough lesson. Your honesty about the whole thing is refreshing though. It’s easy to look back and see the red flags. Not so easy when you’re in the middle of it. The person you were communicating with didn’t seem like they spoke English as a first language but that isn’t always obvious. As a rule you shouldn’t really buy any plant equipment that you haven’t physically put hands on and checked out yourself. It would have probably cost you less than €200 to get a flight over and check things out in person. Not a lot when you think about the amount of money involved. I think I would stick to buying in Portugal or Spain where you can drive to and look at things yourself. Take a mechanic or an operator with you to go over the machine to make sure it’s as advertised. At least you won’t fall for it again. Definitely file a police report in Portugal and in NI. It won’t get you anything back but it’s the right thing to do. Good luck next time around!

[@adamtash2891]

yeah it was lazy not to just travel to wherever the digger was

[@markcallaghan843]

@@adamtash2891 strong words!. Not inaccurate but I prefer very naive! If you’re planning to spend an amount you can’t afford to lose then you should do it face to face. Make sure you can run the machine and not just at idle. If the seller isn’t happy with you digging a hole and pushing the hydraulics under load then walk away. Small excavators are everywhere so there are always other options. I’d rather spend a few quid on a cheap hotel and a flight than empty my wallet only to find you’ve bought fresh air or a machine that’s a liability. And always assume it’s never been serviced properly or greased often enough!

[@Barbaralee1205]

Time to go to the police. And ask an attorney how to proceed. Also ask if your bank can recapture those funds. Oh God, I feel so bad for you all. Heartbreaking!! Don’t take it too personally. And remember, the law of karma ALWAYS catches up with you! Always. Just donated. Good will conquer evil , that too is a universal law!

[@Weissleder_]

polic not gonna help man they only write speeding tickts

[@sunettevanstaden3897]

We just do not know who to trust anymore. I anymore truly sorry

[@mimiso516]

This does work but takes a while if the scammer has closed the account. We only lost $34 USD, BUT since we had paid through PayPal, they were able to recover it and forced the scammer to shut down their accounts, Shopify closed their account, etc. I realize that this is bigger, but maybe by having a "buyer" or a bank do the transaction for you (like PayPal) they have more standing to go after the scammer.

[@cliveklg7739]

More than likely the money isn't in that account anymore, if the account hasn't been outright closed.

[@joel383]

Not if it is in bitcoin

[@lyndaroper2991]

You are not stupid. It makes you feel so bad. These scammers are so clever and so corrupt. It's the feeling of total injustice. I nearly got scammed by a person impersonating my friend and it left me feeling so bad. If you can sort it in anyway I really hope you can. But otherwise just put it down to a hard lesson learned. You are so genuine a group of people to even share this scam to us. Love you and bless you all

[@columbo9336]

Contact the police in Northern Ireland, they are the PSNI. It is import to report it, as the higher the value of the scam, the more time and resources will be given towards the investigation.

[@bringerod5141]

That’s so sad, I’ve been scammed as well. It’s horrible, it makes you so ashamed and you feel so stupid.

[@uwuchyuujinn_7703]

I screamed so loud saying NO when i saw the tittle...... how could this happen TT

[@sts0868]

Same with me - when I saw the title i shouted "Oh NOOO".

[@uwuchyuujinn_7703]

@@sts0868 it hurts seeing those kind and wonderful people getting scammed from evil people TT They sounded so depressed it t aches my heart even more

[@Toragrai]

I know! So heartbreaking. There are some real bad people out there 😢

[@SkateFit1]

Their are some very active youtubers that fight against scammers. One youtuber even made a video about fake companies pretending to sell such vehicules as your digger. These guys are amazing IT geeks and may be able to track and expose your scammers.

[@expectationlost]

who?

[@ShadowsDML]

@@expectationlost kitboga and Jim Browning for example

[@SkateFit1]

Atomic Shrimp (i emailed him about this), scammer payback and others

[@VisualMind]

Scammer Payback is so good! Would love to see them help on this

[@StaceNyourFace]

@@VisualMind 👍

[@GlobalNomadPete]

Sorry to hear folks. Scammers are getting smarter, you're not the only ones to have been scammed. Hopefully Milo get what's coming to him.

[@guy7gsa]

The reason they delay for so long, is so you can't get a refund with your credit card campany, any thing over 25-30 days is impossible to reverse. Main reason why the scammers keep in contact for a certain time.

[@emarascalchi]

it was payed by a back fund transfer, no credit card company involved. Is still possibile to recover the money from the receiving bank as they didn't check the account owner properly

[@bunny6970]

5 hours after posting and already reached their goal, shows you what good community is all about ! congrats!

[@chowe9]

I had 5k$ stolen from a builder. I fought for a year to get it back, to no avail. The authorities did nothing. Town's people laughed and said, "he does that all the time. " Not one of my best experiences. I'd like to forget it.

[@beerenmusli8220]

Lovely townfolk. . . Sorry that you had to go through that.

[@chowe9]

@@beerenmusli8220 thank you :)

[@Jay23B]

That really sucks, I am sure the scammers grandma is super proud of him.

[@StaceNyourFace]

The scammer would probably rip off his own grandma too. smh 🙄

[@karencole274]

I am so disgusted with the type of people who think it's okay to steal/scam/whatever you want to call it! I am so sorry that this has happened to you but the scammers, as many have also said, are very clever! My husband and I have had a similar experience with buying a business and we, like you guys, carried out due diligence..... long story but essentially we lost everything we invested...... I really hope that you can get some justice and that karma comes and bites the scammer squarely in the back-side! In the meantime, we will make a small donation towards the next digger - maybe Caterpillar or JCB do the decent thing. 🥰

[@Ajay-ox1eo]

Always buy on your own country so you can pursue legally if it comes to this.

[@peterschoemaker9]

I would have choosen the Netherlands

[@ThePapaupa12]

even if you do, most scammers are so ahead of their times that it would take years to track them down

[@klm20079]

@@peterschoemaker9 there is a whole action for diggers and mining machines in the Netherlands you can get a big one for 20k in bad times like now.

[@nikgamer0712]

You can do that in the EU.

[@user-mw9qm5zn2f]

В этом нет смысла, мошенники могут сидеть хоть в Индии

[@das_moendchen3250]

Reading the title and clicking on this video was really hard... I'm so sorry for you!

[@joshuablackburnJB]

698 Thousand subscribers, most of whom have never bought any merch, or joined any subscriptions. If others like myself, who have absolutely found value in your Projects, would pitch in the most meager of contributions, your team would have enough money to buy a fleet of dirt work equipment. My donation is inbound as we speak... Keep up the hard work, and don't let the darkness throw shade on your souls. You are all doing a unique and admirable thing. Just another chapter in the story of the Kamp.

[@mizakoreia]

More than 16.000 euros has been donated so far! Right on you guys! Love this community

[@mattblank9224]

I'm so sorry to hear about the scam, I've experienced one myself, and I felt so foolish for a while and didn't want to tell my family or friends because I was embarrassed. Very brave of you to share, and i will make a small contribution to help your project along. Good luck and stay strong.

[@milhooz]

Being victim of something is always hard but those scammers thrive from people who are ashamed to talk about it. It's best to be open and share experience so everyone can benefit from it.

[@Jellooze]

You really should contact the local police in ireland and explain your situation and give them the info you have about the scammer

[@ruppert5134]

I am sure the scammers are in pakistan or kasmir... They love scamming infidel.... for allah...

[@user-rf6ec6hx3f]

So horrible for you all. It's hard enough to have faith in humanity at times without this kick in the teeth. Stay strong.

[@dl2688]

Biggest tip: when you don't have experience importing / exporting, use a quality control company you can find in most countries. They will visit the site, checks the thing you want to purchase and then you'll make further arrangements / pay etc. Costs a penny, but atleast you're safe.

[@guidokemeling8188]

So sorry to hear you got scammed. Amazing from the viewer in Northern Ireland to take the drive and check things out. Wonderful!!

[@manuelafigueiredo7309]

Oh noooo 😢! Sorry to hear that! I also felt bad when I saw that the bad guy blamed "(Brazilians)" for the scam... besides being a thief he is helping to spread prejudice against Brazilian foreigners... so sad!

[@yorther]

I was really hoping this wouldn't be a scam, this is terrible and I hope no other things like this ever happen again!

[@lajeanette33]

Some people are being tough with you in the comments. Being scammed happens and scammers are becoming more clever by the minute. It’s not you’re fault and a victim of a crime should never been blamed for it! I hope everything goes well in the future for this great Project Kamp. 😊

[@balaenopteramusculus]

Well said! Also didn't really enjoy all the hindsight cleverisms.

[@CitizenAyellowblue]

Yeah, everyone is an expert on social media...

[@das_moendchen3250]

Exactly! Can't believe some of the comments... it's never a good idea to put shame on the victim... yeah, in hinsight there are red flags but mistakes happen

[@jozsef98]

@@CitizenAyellowblue No, not really. Some people just have common sense

[@StaceNyourFace]

@@jozsef98And, some people are just jerks, like yourself. What a 🍆! 🙄

[@isvanalles7747]

oh man Dave I feel for you, I am most impressed by what value a community as you build can bring to the table. I hope justice will come

[@fredericalouceiro1116]

File a Police report urgently..here and on Ireland

[@elenaantunes1263]

Would interpol help with this?

[@franciscolontro5219]

If you're using a Portuguese bank account I think you can still ask to withdraw the transfer. Contact your bank

[@L0B0P1R4T4]

Correct, thats the reason he sends emails with stories, so you miss the time to withdraw the transfer!!!

[@rm6857]

money are now somewhere on cayman islands, india, or cyprus

[@pablortelli]

I watched the video late today, and it broke my heart to read that they were scammed so cruelly. But I went in to see the documents on how to help and my faith in humanity was restored: 143% of the funds for the project! What a beautiful community they have created. We all participate in their joys and sorrows! Aguante Project Kamp!!!

[@mlife952]

Amazing community support! 🎉 Looking forward to seeing your new digger help you. Yes for Justice. Yes for waterfall crying. You are blessed by many hearts Dave, pk and all.

[@pithavy9243]

Hope the refund comes back to it. Go in-person to the next places. Its great to have super fans allover the world watching you guys. Use us as much as you can next time

[@wendydee3007]

COMMUNITY and FRIENDSHIP is everything! Good luck with your compensation and digger projects. Evil greedy people are in the minority, but nice guys are everywhere and will help you :o)

[@tiagoveloso7873]

Just love to see how the power of community working... And specifically the mercy of the Project Kamp broader community, it really touches me. I'll send you by email the contact of my father who knows a looot of machine retailers in the Center part of Portugal (his job is to sell them filters for the machines). Use someone who speak Portuguese to get in contact with him, I'm sure he will be glad to help you guys!

[@madsamsamsam]

Having worked in financial services, the first thing you should do is call the the bank where the payment went to (should be shown in your bank account statment) and report it that it's involved in possible fraud. Then report it to your bank account as a payment that has been involved in possible fraud. They might ask you for a crime reference number but I'm not sure how they would deal with it if it's a Portuguese account. In the UK the bank can issue a refund If it's confirmed to be involved in a scam/fraud.

[@sveinerikthomassen2454]

I just sent you a little plaster for the wound... There really are som nasty people out there, totally killing internet trade. Best of luck, and hopefully the digger is soon in house.

[@joaneperso]

Just by reading the title I went: " OH nooooo 😢"

[@chasethesunriseportugal]

So sad to hear about the scam! Thanks for your willingness to share the story with us. Good luck with everything moving forward!

[@GeorgeRow]

Two things that raise a red flag for me: - the language in the messages from the “seller” does not read as if the writer has English as their first language - Barclays Bank does not operate in Northern Ireland

[@milhooz]

Barclays definitely operates in Northern Ireland, just use Google, they have many branches there.

[@peterinvestor]

Thats maybe obvious for you but not for us non-english speakers. I thought it was legit since we saw company on .gov site and google maps with images showing some heavy machinery on their land. It is sad that those scammers are using some random companies and the bank did not investigate this CROSS BORDER transactions since any payments above 10k with no history are checked but most likely not for businesses but just retail customers.

[@RobertAppleby]

Usually the header information in the mail will give you some information on where the mail actually came from if it wasn't faked. Might want to check that. Sorry to hear that you got scammed. I think one good general rule is never to pay upfront and to use payment methods that give you extra security like PayPal. Good luck! Looking forward to the actual digger!

[@hansfiesling8020]

Rips my heart out. It feels as if I was scammed personally. Donated as soon as you mentioned it. Cheers!

[@redbone_iii5953]

I'm so sorry for you. But please don't let your head down, this wonderful community will definitely get the money together. ❤❤❤

[@float_sam]

if you can't see it you can't really buy it in the private world

[@charlenecarnes8139]

Sorry I don't have much. So sorry this happened to you. Hopefully he is caught and you all can still get a digger❤❤❤

[@artfx9]

Congrats on the funds for a new digger! ❤ People, let's give the camp a bad-ass digger!

[@zapple5319]

I donated for you! i know how painful getting scammed can be, really sad to see, but failing is the easiest way to learn from your mistakes

[@pjpanda572]

When you said you were buying a motorized piece of equipment online, from another country, my first thought was "how do you buy a motorized piece of equipment without turning it on, checking all the moving parts, checking if it works, etc, etc, etc"

[@ViNiMiCoRRizA]

or at least a video call with the seller, showing the machine qorking, right?

[@VisualMind]

@@ViNiMiCoRRizAthat video could easily be fake - as it obviously actually was

[@pjpanda572]

@@VisualMind @ViNiMiCoRRizA said video CALL. Ya know, one where you speak to an actual person. Who can answer your questions. Show you how the machine works. Demonstrate operation according to your requests.

[@jekker1000]

@@pjpanda572 I mean even that can be arranged. Just get two high viz vests, hard hats & a friend to go to a construction rentals company. Say you are interested in this or that. Then have the call while you are checking out the equipment. Unless you are in Africa or India this will be easy to fake. Pig Butchering scam is the same. Where they even get the walking porta pottys a side hustle in Dubai. They arrange calls with western looking women when a victim gets doubts. So only thing is in person.

[@ViNiMiCoRRizA]

@@VisualMind video call is live, there's no way to fake this in a live call, showing a working machine and all...

[@twestgard2]

With that amount of money at stake, I would have hired a local lawyer near the seller to investigate and handle the transaction

[@davidvandekerkhof1371]

Hopefully the love of the community supporting you guys with an even better digger triumphs the feelings of being scammed!

[@ThePaulMcBride]

That is absolutely wild! I live in Belfast, not too far from Ballymena. That was a fairly sophisticated scam, they went as far as setting up a company and picking an address that looked plausible from google maps. It might be worth while speaking to the PSNI, thats the local police force in Northern Ireland.

[@JiriMachovec]

Seemed shady from the start... It was a common scam with diggers like a year ago here in the Czech republic. People paid half the price up front + shipping cost and received exactly nothing at all.

[@jeffwrench9994]

Don't feel stupid you did your due diligence and tried everything to confirm that is a real business. I've been scammed before and i was pissed. These people are low lifes and deserve to be in jail Keep working on it and you will get some satisfaction

[@MennoJanssen]

What you guys are doing at project kamp is transforming old energy into new. This is part of it. How unfortunate and unfair it may be. Let it play our in a bigger timeline and your smiles will be big. Much luck on the path for all of you!

[@sofamofa3411]

man, ~4 hours and the donation has reached 100%. The Project Kamp Community is truly awesome

[@d4rr3nt0nk5]

Donated what we could. Hope this helps. Your videos are really cool and interesting and i look forward to them every Monday. Good luck with the crowd funder.

[@filipevaz719]

Hey Dave. Scammers are out there hard these days, I work in the anti-fraud industry and believe me even the most experienced investigator could be scammed so don't feel stupid. You need to report this to your bank and to the Portuguese Police. With some luck, your bank could contact the receiving bank and they will evaluate and perhaps you might get refunded. Best of luck

[@wfortuijn]

Donations target already reached, great work people. I hope you find another one soon i was waiting for the big update and to see how the digger was.

[@andytweed5651]

So happy to see you've already made more than your money back in the crowdfunding campaign! What a community!

[@brunobleiz4092]

Feeling so bad for you dude and projectkamp as well but for you much more... I can imagine how you feel but don't worry, its just money. Go ahead with the project, it was only just a stone in the way. Bad people only win if good ones do nothing.

[@Mia_I_am_nice]

Donated to the digger fund

[@LetsG00000]

How you think they bought it lol. They need to introduce the operations manager. Who have we met that was a logistics operations specialists or even a financial advisor?

[@Hemmerschmidt]

It's only been a day, and the fundraiser is already well above the goal. I love this community.

[@ChristianLindeland]

Liked for the algorithm, but I'm honestly pissed for you guys! Glad to see the donation is successful at least! Don't give up!

[@JD987abc]

Hi Dave you are a good person and Project Kamp is a virtuous mission with kind people. Please don’t be hard on yourself. You were scammed by a criminal. Nothing you did was wrong or foolish. Barclay bank should help you but trust me they won’t. I was scammed by a cab driver who charged me 1,000 euros when the actual fare was 8.30 euros he gave me a receipt for 8.30 euros. It took me 7 months to get Barclay to refund me the money. Please stay focused on your mission. It will work out in the long run. All my best…Joe.

[@82margit]

thanks for sharing this very important info. the scammers got a lot better. i saw some scam listings before but the websites involved were so bad that it was obvious… this was really convincing imo. sorry this happened to you

[@kathyl3918]

I don't know how you stay so calm. I wish I was so inclined. I am sick to my stomach that this has happened to you wonderfully thoughtful people. Good luck and sending good karma.

[@finnbar5510]

My grandparents almost fell for a scam recently - it's so hard nowadays, especially in your case where they send official looking documents and are super communicative.

[@Danutty]

The horrendous English in the emails would have been a big red flag for me...

[@palmajm5333]

As soon as i saw you buying a huge equipment like this online, I though, "I'm sure you will go there to check the machine and talk to the seller before buying it" A one day trip to UK (going in the morning and coming back in evening) + car rental would cost you less than 500/600€, which is a fraction of the price of it.

[@evelyngorfram9306]

Yeah, I didn't understand why Project Kamp went ahead on the purchase without an in-person visit or at least an agent on the ground in NI, which would have cost probably less than 5% of the purchase price. But it's not like haven't ever done anything that others could have warned me was, let's say, less than wise.

[@gestione_dello_stress]

One lesson learnt is how strong and caring your community is! So maybe next time if you find a digger somewhere else in Europe you can ask the community to check them out before buying, and I saw a lot of very good advice on bank procedures to ensure the money is released to the seller only when you get the goods. Lots of good lessons learnt for all of us really ❤

[@ilonamollema6467]

I made a comment after the first video about the digger. Advising that Dave should ask one of the Irish followers/patreons to check if this company is legit...... Oh boy, €14500 gone. It's horrible. I really hope that they can arrest the man, and Dave can get his money back. But I'm quite worried.... 😔

[@Erin_Wilson_Studios]

I'm so bummed that this happened. 😢 That said, this video talking about it is really great.

[@XavierBartholome]

Don't feel bad! The amount of actions you took to try and check the company out was quite impressive. There isn't much more you could have done.

[@benvandemark]

So sorry this happened to the project Kamp team. Stay strong Dave & co!

[@balaenopteramusculus]

Hey, really sorry to hear this. Please remember you guys are not to blame. Some scammers are just really smart and they could have fooled me as well. That said, dear fellow commenters, shall we just stop all this pointless hindsight advise? It taste really sour, does no one any real good, and shifts the blame to the victim not the perpetrator. I am sure Project Kamp are beating themselves up enough without all that. Love to you all!

[@buttspantser]

I actually think a lot of it is useful information for everyone reading to look out for. And some people are giving good advise for the upcoming purchase of the digger, like the information about the Letter of Credit

[@balaenopteramusculus]

@@buttspantser That might be the case and it is a fair point, I have to admit. However, there is something like a time and a place. You can bet they feel real bad and the last thing they probably want is hindsight advise. Can you imagine sharing you have been robbed and people immediately 'helpfully' saying you should not have walked down road X in the first place? It doesn't matter really how well you mean your comment. It comes across as callous if you don't get the timing and phrasing right. Besides that, most comments were basically just repeating what they already said themselves.

[@dittagecoeco2738]

Sorry guys. 😢 Thanks for sharing fails

[@woodsTjackets]

😢😢 Heartbreaking… felt really sorry as I watched this episode. Thank you for this video despite feeling all shitty being scammed. The message fr ur vid helps keep our guards up against (possible) scammers.

[@nicbeese1]

Absolutely crazy situation but incredible you've raised MORE than you lost in such a short space of time. You'll be able to get a better digger now thanks to your fans

[@atpsynthase7990]

Highly distressing. Hope you find some justice.

[@IceSpoon]

This video has been up for 7 hours. You have 130% of the amount of the digger covered. I love this community.

[@mglouise97]

This video was posted publicly less than 8 hours ago and the digger is already fully funded!!! This community has your back 💪

[@gavia_galaxy]

The fact that this has only been live for a day and they already have double the donations 😁 amazing team work for this community!

[@daveffs1935]

You have a huge resource in your viewers, when you buy another one ask for one of us to go check it out for you before you buy it. You might get your money back via the bank and their fraud department. Contact the UK police and give them the details too as it looks like they already have a case open on him. The biggest risk is that you've paid a LTD company, so what will likely happen is he'll fold the company and declare bankruptcy, he may end up in jail but the money could well be gone.

[@D0A17599]

Or maybe dont import large machinery via ship from half a continent away. Cant really get scammed if you go see the digger in person. Also thought they were trying to be sustainable and stuff? Doesnt really work with the whole shipping story

[@thecashier930]

@@D0A17599 What a cheap arguement. Diggers aren't produced in Portugal. So either he buys one overseas and has it shipped to Portugal or he buys it from someone else who bought it overseas and then shipped it to Portugal.

[@cilenee]

​@@D0A17599don't doubt the scammers hability!

[@MrBubba311]

Donated to the digger fund.

[@Weissleder_]

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[@virginiameza6885]

This hurts to watch! Sorry that you guys are going through this. Hope it gets resolved…or take it as lesson learned.

[@mattbray_studio]

8 hours later and they already hit and exceeded their target! Good going kampers! Feel sorry for you guys, but hopefully this outpouring of goodwill helps heal your heart a bit.