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w2aew

w2aew

10 жыл бұрын

This is a tutorial and demonstration of the basics of the Resolution BW (RBW) and Video BW (VBW) functions in a Spectrum Analyzer. You may wish to review the "Basics of a Spectrum Analyzer" video if you are unfamiliar with the basic functions and block diagram of a swept spectrum analyzer. Here is the link for that video:
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This video covers the definition of these terms, where they exist in the analyzer, what they do, and the effects they have on the displayed results.

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@harbselectronicslab3551
@harbselectronicslab3551 4 жыл бұрын
For years I have still been referring trainee's to this video.....that cutout demo is still the best teaching aid I have ever seen........
@ALEngineer30
@ALEngineer30 2 жыл бұрын
it really is. brilliant and very simple.
@toxicricardo
@toxicricardo Жыл бұрын
I’ve used spectrum analyzers for years and have always had to spend 30 mins remembering what VBW and RBW were now that’s I’ve seen this video I know I will only spend a max of 8mins and 37 seconds
@WizardVespian
@WizardVespian 9 жыл бұрын
This is the most concise, helpful explanation I have ever found for RBW and VBW filters. I've been using spectrum analyzers for years and I'm quite familiar with their setup and use, but I've never understood what those filters actually did under the hood so to speak... until today. Thank you, and please keep making videos. Those of us who take the time to search out this information (the small crowd that we are) really do appreciate the time and energy you put into making them. Thumbs up!
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Be sure to let me know if you have a topic you'd like to see in a future video.
@WizardVespian
@WizardVespian 9 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I'll have lots of questions when I start college. I intend to get into RF engineering, provided I can make the grades. For now I'm just a curious satcom tech with all together too much time on my hands, and I'm thoroughly enjoying the wealth of knowledge available on KZbin, the EEVblog (thanks Dave) and other forums. I really enjoy the in depth technical focus of your videos. I do have one question about this video. Why do we have to convert Vpp to Vrms in order to do a dBv measurement? Is there a technical reason for it, or is it just convention?
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 жыл бұрын
It's because the dB values always relate to power, and power is computed from rms values.
@WizardVespian
@WizardVespian 9 жыл бұрын
That makes perfect sense combined with the tidbits I just learned from some other videos on the difference between Vpp and Vrms (specifically how Vrms is calculated, and why). Thanks!
@germibestia
@germibestia 2 жыл бұрын
when somebody knows his stuff very well, he is able to explain it in a simple, easy to understand and yet complete way. Here we have the perfect example.
@ebarnes442
@ebarnes442 4 жыл бұрын
I've been teaching people how to use a spectrum analyzer and what RBW and VBW filters do for a couple of decades. This is easily the best , simplest description of it I've ever seen. Thanks!
@jayeshsukumaran
@jayeshsukumaran 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for very clearly explaining what the RBW and VBW filters are. Really appreciate the time and energy you put into making such wonderfully informative videos.
@rysend
@rysend 10 жыл бұрын
You are one of the best teachers on youtube. Clear, concise, zero BS, visual, interesting. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!
@gonzik2675
@gonzik2675 10 жыл бұрын
Amazing videos! As a studying engineer seeing how things work in the real world is worth more than you can imagine. Thanks for your hard work and comprehensive tutorials!
@cny02253
@cny02253 10 жыл бұрын
Alan, you really know how to come up with simple and elegant visual aids. Masterful, concise video showing the relatively simple concept behind the oblique phrase "Resolution Bandwidth" and the application of filters. I love filters. You can't do enough videos about filters, "Q", all that cool stuff.
@ronaldlijs
@ronaldlijs 10 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT explanation Alan!!! Much appreciated on this end. I have just bought a spectrum analyzer off eBay and I think I will love it!! Keep it up!!!
@buffteethr
@buffteethr 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I am currently debugging my DUT for CE compliance and this is the best explanation I have seen for VBW and RBW. Good job.
@geperezg
@geperezg 10 жыл бұрын
Very good video. After 3 years in the instrumentation industry, I have finally found something to solidify these principles in my head.
@Automotive-Velocity
@Automotive-Velocity 2 жыл бұрын
These are the best electronics videos on YT. Concise and well presented.
@ka1wht
@ka1wht 2 жыл бұрын
A very articulate and detailed explanation to help understand spectrum analyzer operation. Thank you, Alan.
@jonesthesteamuk
@jonesthesteamuk 9 жыл бұрын
Best KZbin video I've seen on how a spectrum analyser works. Clear simple description. Great stuff keep it coming!
@WestCoastMole
@WestCoastMole 10 жыл бұрын
Well Done Alan...The new generation of entry level Spec Analyzers are priced down to a level where a whole new group of people can obtain them. This creates a need for tutorials for both the Theory of Operation and How to Use the device and get the most out of it. This video is an excellent example of how to clearly and concisely address the matter. Thanks again
@trumannevercry
@trumannevercry 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Explain the concepts of VBW and RBW in an easy way. Definitely recommend this video for anyone want to understand the spectrum analyzer more.
@omgkingdano
@omgkingdano 8 жыл бұрын
These are excellent fundamental refresher videos. Very well thought out and explained. Backed by excellent examples on real world equipment. Very nice.
@DucatiMTS1200
@DucatiMTS1200 4 жыл бұрын
Today’s a better day sir because you helped clearly explain the workings of RBW and VBW filtering to me. I am most appreciative 🤗.
@jipra
@jipra 9 жыл бұрын
Such a brilliant demonstration video! Very informative! Thanks w2aew, you're the best!
@John_L
@John_L Жыл бұрын
I finally scratched a very long-standing itch by buying my own spectrum analyser a few weeks back. It's fascinating to run it in the shack on wide bandwidth (up to 1.5GHz) with a small telescopic antenna and see all the spectrum mush in a modern home! Your videos are an excellent way for me to rediscover the nuances of my new toy some 40 years after I last used a spectrum analyser professionally. Thank you and 73 de G3WGV.
@mjlorton
@mjlorton 10 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation Alan...just starting to play with my MDO analyser..searched for "frequency analyzer rbw" and look who I find?! ;-) Cheers, Martin.
@w2aew
@w2aew 10 жыл бұрын
Martin, while the principles are largely the same, the SA in the MDO operates differently. There is no "sweep". It uses a discrete Fourier Transform (actually a Chirp-Z transform to be exact) to compute the spectrum from direct sampled data. Thus, there is no VBW function, and 'sweep time' is replaced with 'spectrum update rate.' The RBW determines the time-duration of the data record that is sent to the Chirp-Z transform.
@mjlorton
@mjlorton 10 жыл бұрын
***** Thanks for the info Alan.
@DAVET38
@DAVET38 10 жыл бұрын
Hello Alan. Another very useful, clear video. Found it very helpful in the use of my new spectrum analyzer; allowing me to use the equipment more effectively and more 'knowingly'. Thanks
@dougn7bfs
@dougn7bfs 6 жыл бұрын
your visual examples coupled with your explanation as you go makes this a great tutorial, thanks!!
@shivbhalodia9711
@shivbhalodia9711 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such clear & concise explanation! You've saved me so much time and effort at work.
@chetangaonkar7251
@chetangaonkar7251 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best explanations of any RF fundamentals I have come across. Thank you!
@w2aew
@w2aew 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I hope you like more of my RF (and other) videos.
@keena1326
@keena1326 3 жыл бұрын
Man...best explanation of these two subjects I've come across yet.
@berkol1407
@berkol1407 3 ай бұрын
thanks for the great explanation 10 years ago!
@robertsomerset6630
@robertsomerset6630 3 жыл бұрын
I think this just helped me understand why my duplexer tuning was never as good as it could've been. Lowering the RBW would help me see the filters individually when they are right next to each other. Thank you!!!
@richarddomingos1423
@richarddomingos1423 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks from Brazil, i'm working with BK Precision by micronix, and that video helps me a lot!!!! I´ll see the others videos to learn more about it!!! Thank you!
@jianjiao542
@jianjiao542 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Very clear both in theory and practical. Solved my confusion for a long time.
@sudhansunithmr
@sudhansunithmr 9 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty decent knowledge bank video. Thanks for uploading and so lucidly explaining the concepts.
@satyamjayanti2642
@satyamjayanti2642 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation. I have never seen such a great tutorial of a SpecAn. Thanks !!
@paulamiroy953
@paulamiroy953 6 жыл бұрын
Very innovative way of explaining ! Great work !
@nickpenacl
@nickpenacl 2 жыл бұрын
This is just the video that I was looking for a long time ago . Wonderful
@NexxuSix
@NexxuSix 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanation. I’m still learning a few tips and tricks from you combined with my operator’s manual on my newly acquired SA (HP8560E). I have learned a lot from you =)
@wxfreak
@wxfreak 10 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration really helped me understand what is happening! Thank you!
@marcosbarros8069
@marcosbarros8069 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation; concise and clear: direct to the point. Thank you!
@volcanowb
@volcanowb 5 жыл бұрын
I get so much from your sessions! Thank you!
@bachger4289
@bachger4289 4 жыл бұрын
The best explanation I've ever heard before. Thanks.
@davidbeauchesne7399
@davidbeauchesne7399 10 жыл бұрын
Just purchased my first spectrum analyzer and was confused by the difference between RBW and VBW. Your video explained it very well. Thank you!
@BinaBhatt
@BinaBhatt 6 жыл бұрын
Very helpful explanation, particularly with the paper prototype (Wide Band and Narrow Band). Thank you.
@famossfla
@famossfla 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alan Another great informative video. Nice explanation of interaction of RBW and VBW..
@gus_siles
@gus_siles 2 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant explanation!! Congratulations!.. this goes straight to my classroom and lab.
@mklengel
@mklengel 6 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Thanks for producing this videos. Please keep on with it.
@w2aew
@w2aew 10 жыл бұрын
K1MGY - good questions. I'll answer them using your numbers: 1) It is an Advantest U3461 2) VBW reduces the variation in the trace due to noise, it doesn't reduce the noise floor. It won't reduce the amplitude of the signals as long as the sweep speed is slow enough to allow the filter to fully charge. This is usually taken care of automatically. 3) Reducing VBW will help uncover things that are standing "in the grass" by flattening the noisy grass around the signal. Reducing RBW will help even more by reducing the noise floor, uncovering signals that were buried below the noise. 4) Sweep time (sweep speed) is typically linked to RBW and VBW. RBW is typically linked to SPAN. Narrow SPAN = narrow RBW = slower sweep speeds. Yes, slower sweep speeds in a swept analyzer make it easier to find transients. Alan
@DanielRojas-pf1pw
@DanielRojas-pf1pw 9 жыл бұрын
***** Hey Allan, Thanks a lot for the great videos, as always. What practical difference is there between reducing the VBW and just plain averaging? I know that reducing the VBW is actually filtering the higher frequencies, as opposed to just plain averaging. Leaving the math aside, I notice that both approaches increase the sweep time and don't have an effect on the noise floor. Can you comment on the differences of both? When would I use one or the other? Thanks!
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 жыл бұрын
Daniel Rojas You can think of the VBW as a trace smoothing filter. Thus, if you had a low level signal buried in the grass, the smoothing would likely hide the signal - while averaging would smooth out the grass but not clip the tiny signal.
@ernieschatz3783
@ernieschatz3783 6 жыл бұрын
This is excellent. "Yes, slower sweep speeds in a swept analyzer make it easier to find transients." I have to take periodic measurements of pulsed microwave (RADAR transmitters to be exact) signals. With one of our handheld analyzers (Agilent N9344C), I have to play with the sweep speed, or the signal will pop in and out of view, or it won't display at all. The analyzer is basically DC to 20GHz and has no problem reading CW signals at any of the frequencies we check (anywhere from 700MHz to about 9 GHz). We sometimes borrow a Rohde and Schwarz FSH20 handheld that displays any signal we want to see without touching any settings. I'm wondering if there was something I missed in the spec sheet when I acquired the Agilent, or is the Rohde and Schwarz just more refined?
@AM-uw6br
@AM-uw6br 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Both precise and coherent
@randydireen3566
@randydireen3566 5 жыл бұрын
Love how clear this was
@garysavage4121
@garysavage4121 6 жыл бұрын
I had never seen a description of RBW using a mask (to represent the RBW filter) over a drawing of the measured spectrum. It was very easy to understand.
@raindrop2407
@raindrop2407 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. It's helping me a lot in my EE courses. Your videos are so unique and informative!
@w2aew
@w2aew 7 жыл бұрын
Very glad to hear that my videos are helping in your coursework!
@aeronothis5420
@aeronothis5420 7 жыл бұрын
As a SATCOM guy, I thank you for the service these videos you make provide.
@w2aew
@w2aew 7 жыл бұрын
Your welcome - thank you for saying so.
@JohnSmith-he5xg
@JohnSmith-he5xg 6 жыл бұрын
Great videos. Thanks for taking the time to make these :)
@ericntsama5833
@ericntsama5833 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent !, thank you for the detailed explanation and live demonstration
@keithcoltron3171
@keithcoltron3171 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I'd bumped into w2aew years ago, great teacher, great content, many, many thanks for all.
@saintlouis999
@saintlouis999 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!!! Simple, concise and super clear!!!!! Thanks a lot.
@dhananjayw502
@dhananjayw502 2 жыл бұрын
Wow ! .... Very nicely explained. It cleared my doubts and will definitely help me. Thanks a lot.
@Rcschim
@Rcschim 6 жыл бұрын
Super well explained with just a pen and cutout cardboard. Like it a lot! thanks!
@tarun5632
@tarun5632 10 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, Knowledgeable and clears all doubts Thanks
@positivevibes179
@positivevibes179 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice presentation & explanation of the resolution bandwidth
@jojojoy4395
@jojojoy4395 3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation and illustrations. Thank you very much.
@dougspurell2387
@dougspurell2387 7 жыл бұрын
Very concise and nicely conveyed. Well done.
@pmblsmft2
@pmblsmft2 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely superb explanation. Thank you!!
@petepnut
@petepnut Жыл бұрын
Very useful and concise information, and very applicable to modern SA's such as Rigol and Siglent. Thanks! Peter G6EPN
@RojoKiller
@RojoKiller 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this ilustrative explanation, it helped me a lot!
@jeffj2010
@jeffj2010 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video to detail how RBW works.
@lorimeyers3839
@lorimeyers3839 Жыл бұрын
Im familiar with RF and spec ans and I’ll tell you what - it’s a very good video for a novice to watch. I think repetition and doing so every so often (it’s easy to forget setups/applications). In my line of work, I try to familiarize myself with Markers, Min and Max holds. Measuring channel and composite power. Eb/no, signal to noise, etc. Runnings sweeps on cables. Spec ans are also used in conjunction with signal generators (sig-gen) when testing RF equipment, fiber shelves or RF antenna paths. Blah blah.
@sciottos
@sciottos 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful explanation and demonstration of R&V BW...3 Cheers!
@hercai10
@hercai10 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation!
@bhavemanojs
@bhavemanojs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clear and concise explanation!
@martinmassitti9791
@martinmassitti9791 6 жыл бұрын
Excelente video! Muy completo, y gracias a esto me permitio reforzar conocimientos. Gracias
@hiranthini1
@hiranthini1 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation, well presented
@Sam-lc1lo
@Sam-lc1lo 2 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome explanation
@thumbsup3096
@thumbsup3096 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there, Insanely good. Your video just helped me out a lot. Good work man, and thanks. Greetings from Germany
@alvaropalomonavarro6177
@alvaropalomonavarro6177 9 жыл бұрын
I just shared this with my students. Great job.
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 жыл бұрын
That's great! Feel free to share any of my videos with them that you might find useful. I have lots of circuit tutorials, component tutorials, test & measurement topics, and much more on my channel.
@weikiatteo
@weikiatteo 9 жыл бұрын
this is so much help for my job. thank you!
@perrooceaniko2005
@perrooceaniko2005 4 жыл бұрын
yes, you deserve 10 times more views …. my respect !
@eddyfontaineyoutu100
@eddyfontaineyoutu100 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation ! Thank you ! 👍
@bjjsalzberry13
@bjjsalzberry13 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson and instruction!
@ruhnet
@ruhnet 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, exactly what I needed. Thanks!
@willzhao640
@willzhao640 7 жыл бұрын
fantastic!! such great explanation!
@raccoonnyc
@raccoonnyc 10 жыл бұрын
I've never seen this explained so well.
@colinchristopher432
@colinchristopher432 6 жыл бұрын
i like this explanation alot. Good stuff
@montecri
@montecri Жыл бұрын
Wow! What an explanation! Thank you sir!
@afterthought138
@afterthought138 10 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual.
@MrsJSan53
@MrsJSan53 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very helpful.
@lancerfan12
@lancerfan12 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant work!
@damianlawrence8430
@damianlawrence8430 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing mate. Good job
@romad17
@romad17 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you! very simple and 100% understandable!
@conesillyvalley7182
@conesillyvalley7182 5 жыл бұрын
Another great example of American way of teaching by super talented yet humble masters. Thank you!
@jimcervantes5659
@jimcervantes5659 5 жыл бұрын
What is "American way of teaching"?
@conesillyvalley7182
@conesillyvalley7182 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimcervantes5659 glad u asked. American way Of teaching is: 1) spoken by someone with both theory and practical knowledge 2) taught using actual hardware and NOT text book or black board 3) spoken from years of personal experience and not just parroting 4) taught humbly, simply, and to the point using fewest words
@jimcervantes5659
@jimcervantes5659 5 жыл бұрын
Baki Pest - Why do you refer to it as American?
@conesillyvalley7182
@conesillyvalley7182 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimcervantes5659 because America is number 1 in high-tech. From moon landing to smart phones, and just about anything me/you use is invented in America, definitely much more advanced than mine (india) or your (Mexico, spain?) country
@jimcervantes5659
@jimcervantes5659 5 жыл бұрын
Baki Pest - I am a US citizen and have received all of my education in the US, including a BS in electrical engineering. Nothing in your description seems inherently American, nor necessarily optimal depending on the circumstance. I have seen a lot of American teaching and don't recognize what you are talking about. Oh well.
@viswatess
@viswatess 8 жыл бұрын
Great way to explain. Thanks a lot sir.
@harry4516
@harry4516 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent ! Thanks for this video
@a1kahest
@a1kahest 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! this is video does help me a lot!
@goldfisch9199
@goldfisch9199 9 жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing. I don't understand why teachers can't expalin it that well
@JohnRaschedian
@JohnRaschedian 5 жыл бұрын
Teachers can usually only teach. They usually don't understand the real meaning of what they teach. Most of them time, they simply memorize things.
@phillipng7331
@phillipng7331 10 жыл бұрын
Very intuitive demo
@ginamiller6015
@ginamiller6015 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice explanation, thank you!!
@amittyagiat80
@amittyagiat80 Жыл бұрын
Great informative video.
@yTb2801082331
@yTb2801082331 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you veeeeery much for this very useful video!!!!!
@tareqhindi9346
@tareqhindi9346 9 жыл бұрын
THank you that was very helpful. excellent explanation.
@sagar378gmail
@sagar378gmail 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Highly appreciate.
@rohinparkar
@rohinparkar 10 жыл бұрын
Hi w2aew .. Excellent explanation .. Nobody ever explained it this way to me.
@philipp8149
@philipp8149 6 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Thank you
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