12 ANGRY MEN (1957) | CHANGED MY LIFE | MOVIE REACTION

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[@xbubblehead]

If you cannot overcome your prejudice against black and white movies, you will be missing some very outstanding films.

[@lisarainbow9703]

Like, "Inherit the Wind"..

[@buffstraw2969]

"Night Of The Hunter."

[@dunbardunelm3924]

The Long Memory with John Mills 😭😭✨✨

[@RLucas3000]

Please watch Witness For The Prosecution from the same year.

[@emichaelny336]

Like "Casablanca," "Psycho", "The Maltese Falcon," "Key Largo," "All My Sons," . . .

[@toodlescae]

There's a reason this movie is considered a masterpiece. It's still used in both film schools and law schools as a teaching tool.

[@znk0r]

Well this would 100% lead to a mistrial.

[@Dularr]

How would it be used in law school? The jury conducted their own outside investigation. The jury introduced evidence not presented in court. The jury disregarded the judges instructions.

[@znk0r]

@@Dularr If it was I guess it would be something like this. "What that juror did is what his lawyer should have done. If you miss something this big then you are in the wrong profession."

[@toodlescae]

@@znk0r also not to underestimate the intelligence of the jurors on a case or think they're all like the guy who wanted a quick verdict because he had baseball tickets to a game that night.

[@znk0r]

@@toodlescae dude if a juror was intelligent he would not cause a mistrial and risk the penalty that entails. You should check legaleagal's review.

[@ericwalker8636]

I've never understood how people can dismiss a movie simply because it's in black and white, as if quality and significance can only exist in a color presentation.

[@30noir]

It's something I'd expect to hear from a child.

[@Paul_1971]

It almost sounds like a 'bigoted' comment from the reactor as far as he defines the meaning - just because it's B&W its not watchable & he's immovable on it? Can't stand this reactor due the constant interjections and overbearing opinions, but tuned in due to the fantastic film.

[@pleutron]

And because it "happened" in the 50s, don't expect the justice system to work "back then"

[@pleutron]

@@Paul_1971 "comment" right "comment comment" right right guys "comment" right

[@steve-zk5zm]

@@pleutronhave. I idea what you are saying. But since you do, maybe that’s all that matters.

[@msns1978]

There is not a single frame of this movie that isn't completely deliberated. Such a timeless masterpiece. Script, performances, directing, camera positioning, blocking, everything...

[@dontshanonau1335]

What they dry their hands with in the bathroom used to be the normal thing before paper "towels" and air dryers. It's a box with a long band of cloth. You just pull out more cloth in the front to dry your hands and a spring-loaded system pulls in as much as you pulled out in the back.

[@couch.patati-patata]

Why does this have to be explained in every reaction to this movie? A towel roll is mentioned in books and is common knowledge.

[@juankusoff]

They’re still around, too

[@couch.patati-patata]

@@juankusoff precisely.

[@benjaminhaglin7869]

They're still around, I've used them before and I'm in my late twenties. I actually prefer them to paper towels

[@drew.168]

They might still be around but I haven't personally seen one in 20 years. So it's really not that much of a stretch to understand.

[@TedLittle-yp7uj]

If you want to better understand the prejudices of the characters in this film, you might want to examine your own prejudice against older movies. They were very aware of human issues then and often dealt with them in ways that will surprise you with their power. I suggest you watch "It's a Wonderful Life" (1946) and, for a gut-wrenching examination of race, "Imitation of Life" (1934. There is a 1950's remake but it is far weaker, though it still has some power). The issues don't go away because human nature doesn't go away. We all have our preconceptions, our own unreasonable fears and expectations and that will never change. What we must do is realise them for what they are and, God willing, rise above them.

[@jeffreiland7463]

His prejudice against black & white movies is the least of the prejudices he needs to overcome. By the way, you would think a man his age would be able to form a sentence without using "bro". Geez!

[@ericwalker8636]

​Yes, "bro", "guys" and "right?" are very prominent crutch words for him and, though he might not mean it as such, he comes off sounding very condescending. @jeffreiland7463

[@jeffreiland7463]

@@ericwalker8636 "Guys" has been around forever. It's different. Bro hasn't. It's like 50 y/o guys using "dude." It just sounds dumb like they're trying to sound cool.

[@barryk5594]

You need to watch Casablanca from 1942 one of the best movies ever. Great story, amazing dialog and B&W filmed beautifully. Absolutely a masterclass in moviemaking.

[@sirperybLakeney]

I think that's the wrong recommendation for MRLBOYD. The people suggesting the likes of Network or some classic Hitchcock are on the right track. I don't see him having the same kind of response to a weepie romance melodrama as to this. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Casablanca and I can imagine he might enjoy it but it's not something I'd think was his type of flick and certainly other things would be likely to appeal a lot more.

[@user-zx9jq4pv1w]

@@sirperybLakeney For Bogart films, perhaps The Maltese Falcon, The African Queen, or The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.

[@sirperybLakeney]

@@user-zx9jq4pv1w Big John Huston fan then!

[@jimuicker4731]

It's a masterful piece of war propaganda. Today's audience might not think enough about the fact that Casablanca was released in theatres during the war, and discusses issues of personal sacrifice for the greater good.

[@lithium23]

"It is 1957 they don't care" meanwhile this film existing in 1957 kinda disproves all of that talk.

[@drcornelius8275]

Exactly, but it's not what the race grifters teach anyone these days.

[@Vlasko60]

@@drcornelius8275 Of course people cared in 1957, but bigotry against "the other" was worse back then compared to today. And in 1957 they were less bigoted than previous generations. We have made a lot of progress despite what some may believe, but that doesn't mean we're done.

[@drcornelius8275]

@@Vlasko60 Yes, but I'm not convinced that bigotry ever really changes all that much. It just moves from one group to another. Currently, it's practically accepted for all but one group.

[@Vlasko60]

@@drcornelius8275 If you read Enlightenment Now by Steven Pinker (2018), you will see a lot of data showing that quality of life for all humans has been getting better and better overall. The key word is "overall". There will always be pockets of bad things, and that progress is not a straight line. In the USA, minorities currently have more rights than ever. I was shocked to find this out.

[@gregghelmberger]

I've never met anyone who didn't like this movie. Young, old, domestic, foreign, everyone gets caught up in it and ends up loving it.

[@moeball740]

You haven't met Thomas Sowell.

[@gregghelmberger]

@@moeball740 I admit, I haven't met everyone. I'm kind of an introvert.

[@toonbarmy4201]

As a kid growing up in the 70's and 80's i was partial to watching Sherlock Holmes films and was very fond of crime tv. It was a time in the UK when we had only four channels and you rarely saw multiple TV's in a household unless your family was well off. Its not a film i would have chosen to watch myself, but, around 1981 we gathered around our TV set and watched whatever my dad had on. This film came on. I was captivated. Loved every minute of it. What a fantastic movie. I knew Henry Fonda as my dad was also a western fan. My mother loved to watch Quincey, so i recognized Jack Klugman also. This is one of my favorite films. Glad you got to see it. Please dont shoot down the opportunity to watch older films because they are dated. There are some absolute gems. The loss would be only to yourself.

[@noisecrime]

Same, both for this film and the classic Rathbone Sherlock Holmes films. BBC2 in the afternoon had so many good old movies.

[@philc2729]

There is a very deserving reason this film sits very high in the top 100 AFI movies of all time. This is a masterpiece in writing and acting. It had no fancy sets, but the 13th character, the jury room. Sound design was excellent, adding dramatic music, when needed, and rain to add tension. I completely agree that we don't want to know whether the kid was actually guilty of the crime. The jury weighed the evidence, or lack there of, and determined that based upon the evidence, he had to be found not-guilty.

[@joelcarver8932]

If you don't watch black and white movies you're missing out on some killer Kurosawa movies.

[@LogicalNiko]

A classic play (which of course explains the simple single setting for the majority of the movie), the screenplay was adapted for CBS for TV and was such a success that they produced it as a film. Boris Kaufman, the DP, was a very famous cinematographer at this point he already won an Academy Awards for Best Cinematography in On The Waterfront in 1954 (also best picture, and Brando won best actor for the same film), and was nominated again for Baby Doll in 1956. It was hailed for Kaufman's choice to slowly change lenses and focal lengths as the story progresses starting in wide angle and finishing mostly in close ups with telephoto lenses and very shallow depth of field. He took the disadvantage of being limited in angles, lighting, and setting as an opportunity to explore tension in the camera. This film was nominated for best picture, best director, best screenplay, won several international awards, and is in many AFI top 100 lists. And of course the Actors include Henry Fonda, and Lee Cobb, Ed Begley, E.G. Marshall, and Jack Warden...all actors at the top of their game in both stage and screen. All New York Actors, on a totally New York production.

[@ebashford5334]

He meant "I could kill you for that darling" to one's wife is not unusual maybe used in a humorous way. But even in a heated argument it wasn't literal and more hyperbolic (perhaps the style of the time) which is what Davis was pointing out.

[@pirbird14]

I remember it being more an expression used by teenagers in reference to parents. "My parents'll kill me if I don't get home by 10". "If I flunk this exam, my parents'll just kill me. " etc. But this sort of thing changes over time.

[@missk8tie]

@@pirbird14 Yes, I remember that expression being used more often years ago in exasperation...not so much anymore.

[@KamandaHickey]

I always thought that the boy went to the movie just to escape from the violence at home. That’s why he didn’t pay attention to the name or the story. And clearly the lawyer didn’t even try. This movie needs to be studied. Everything about it is simply brilliant.

[@blytheguy7510]

When folks say that they don't like black and white films, it just means you haven't seen enough of them. There are some stellar black and white films out there. I like quite a few modern films that were filmed in black and white. Schindler's List, Clerks, Dead Man, The Lighthouse and many others.

[@Shintareth]

One of the Greatest films of all time!

[@BetterGreta13]

Master class in acting right here. From Henry Fonda (Juror 8) to Lee J. Cobb (bitter, yelling guy), these are the great actors of the era....and they bring it, baby!!! Henry Fonda saw this in its original play form and used some of his own money to bring it to the screen. It was not a huge success in its day, but has since gone on to be included in most (if not all) lists of the greatest films of all time.

[@jenniferyorgan4215]

You skipped over the part where the immigrant corrected his English. You paused it, right when he was about too, you backed it up and then skipped right over it. You've skipped over three of the best monologues in this movie, two coming from the watchmaker character and one coming from the architect all still relevant viewpoints.

[@jamesrawlins735]

1957 was such a great year for movies. 12 Angry Men was nominated for Best Picture, as was another courtroom classic, Witness for the Prosecution - both films lost to another masterpiece, Bridge on the River Kwai (well worth watching and also considered one of the greatest movies ever made.)

[@praapje]

1957 was an absolute top notch year for movies in general (as was 1955 and perhaps 1959 by the way). Other great recommendations for 1957: Nights of Cabiria, The Hidden Fortress, Sweet Smell of Success, Wild Strawberries, Will Success spoil Rock Hunter?, Tokyo Twilight, Kanal, As the Cranes Fly, Paths of Glory etc.

[@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames]

This film is my all-time favorite. I have seen it hundreds if not thousands of times, and I am constantly noticing small details I never noticed before, like how Juror #7 -- the baseball fan -- is actually paying close attention to the discussions being held by the others, to the point that it becomes clear on repeated viewings that his conversion from guilty to not guilty isn't as arbitrary as it seems on first blush.

[@EShelby2127]

BTW, we had the same towel rollers in school in the 60s & 70s. It has a fresh roll in the top compartment and pulling it winds the used towel onto a spool at the bottom. It needs to be changed out with a new roll once the clean end of towel's end comes down, and there is no longer a loop. The company that delivered shower towels and blue collar work uniforms....

[@sirperybLakeney]

Yeah, I was pretty shocked he'd never seen one. They were certainly around into the 90s. Mind you, the general attitude to the past was pretty bizarre, seeming to assume that everyone was corrupt and bigoted in '57.

[@bradleygraham2298]

I was waiting for that scene knowing his OCD and germaphobia. Thought he would have had a more animated reaction but he didn't. I watch all these other reactors go nuts over that. He's not that young, can't believe he never saw one before. I would still see them in the late eighties

[@jeanallan8106]

I graduated in 1997 and those were absolutely still around. It had to be more environmentally friendly than paper towels.

[@dvl3435]

OK, the towel thing, you have 2 spools, one with clean towels, one empty. As you use the towel it rotates to a clean part for the next person. It looks like a loop but its not.

[@scottryana]

REAR WINDOW 1954. Check it out.

[@auapplemac1976]

and it’s in color!

[@rdumontdebeque]

We did this play in high school. I had the Lee J. Cobb role. There weren’t enough boys to fill out the cast so there were girls in the cast. The Henry Fonda role was played by a girl. It was weird lunging at her, shouting “I’ll kill her.” With a mixed cast it’s called 12 Angry Jurors.

[@cheychey_pronouncedShy-Shy]

How you gone a lifetime without knowing about this movie sir 😮 my 4th grade teacher showed us this one day and it changed my life…so glad to have teachers who knew children CAN appreciate amazing film and understand the meaning

[@benleitzel4658]

NETWORK by the same director, Sydney Lumet, would be another great watch :)

[@jamesalexander5623]

Most Prophetic Film in History!

[@kurtwinchell]

The big rant he delivers could be copy & pasted into a film today and still be on point.

[@SimeonToko]

I am glad you viewed a classic old movie. There are hundreds of films that are absolutely amazing, that people don't give a chance because they are either "old" or "not in color". Hitchcock and Fritz Lang made filming in black and white an art form. If you dare, and don't mind subtitles, watch the film Sansho the Bailiff. Bring tissue and prepare to have your mind blown.

[@rubykrebs9550]

If I could watch only one movie for the rest of my life...This would be it.

[@Reclining_Spuds]

Nice! My choice would be "Casablanca" 👍👍

[@mildredpierce4506]

In the beginning, the Henry Fonda character was not making an excuse for why the defendant killed his father. He just thought he deserves to have them discuss the case that was presented before them. Guilty or innocent, he wanted to give the boy a fair chance.

[@kirkdarling4120]

I got selected for a federal felony jury in DC in the 80s because I'm black and at the time I was active duty military. Being black made me acceptable to the defense; being military made me acceptable to the prosecution. They were both nearing their limits for the numbers of potential jurors they could strike without cause, so neither wanted to "waste" a strike on me. In the deliberation, I was very much like juror #4. Our first vote was also 11-1 for guilty, and like juror #4, I was a holdout for guilty to the very end. The trial lasted 4 hours...we deliberated 4 days.

[@dooickouski]

I haven’t seen this movie since film class in high school but I remember being throughly surprised and impressed at how good this was. I’ll have to watch the full reaction on Patreon so I can get the experience of rewatching it.

[@brianboye8025]

The glasses were made of glass which is heavier than plastic lens, hence the marks.

[@flibber123]

I think it's to the movie's credit that the way certain evidence was discounted is very plausible. A juror would notice someone having issues walking in the court room. The glasses thing is great because the old guy was sitting across from the glasses wearing juror for a long time. Something like those marks would believably catch his attention at some point. None of this took any type of Sherlock Holmes brilliance, it just took simple observations.

[@couch.patati-patata]

He's the one who broke both witness testimonies.

[@GJH1010]

I’m a trial lawyer, they don’t toss you b/c of that response. We only get a few “pre-emptory challenges” and wouldn’t waste one b/c of that response. If both sides agree, it’s a “cause” challenge, thus, they weren’t stacking the deck.

[@waldorfstatler3129]

Another great courtroom drama is the 1960 film Inherit The Wind starring Spencer Tracey and Fredric March based on the famous 1925 Scopes Trial. Also, the 1962 To Kill A Mockingbird starring Gregory Peck and based on Harper Lee's novel. One of the greatest films of all time.

[@chadbennett7873]

One of the most brilliant films ever made. The cast is Hall of Fame character actors of their time. Lee J. Cobb (man with the son) is pure genius, and the racist was Ed Bdgley (father of Ed Begley Jr. from many things but recently Young Sheldon). For me, the defining moment was after he broke down for the twelfth vote and the room was clearing, Henry Fonda took his coat over and assisted him in putting it on. A true moment of grace, and the cherry on the sundae. Loved watching your put the pieces together ... loved your thought process!

[@30noir]

I like how the reactor's racism, ignorance and prejudice come through so clearly.

[@strobex3298]

This is by far my favorite black and white movie and it stands up to the test of time. Great move, not only for the era, but even today.

[@ralphpal]

Arsenic and old.lace is right up there

[@RLucas3000]

My favorite b&w movie was Witness For The Prosecution from the same year. The brilliance of Agatha Christie leavened with more humor than a murder mystery has a right to have. 2nd place is the brutal scramble between 12 Angry Men, the Marx Brothers movies, and the Thin Man movies. (Especially The Thin Man Goes Home, which seems like it takes place in Mayberry).

[@ammaleslie509]

my favorite B&W movies: Casablanca Psycho It's a Wonderful Life To Kill A Mockingbird Witness for the Prosecution Some Like It Hot All About Eve Strangers on a Train Inherit the Wind and of course, 12 Angry Men!

[@flutesong5527]

These were some of the greatest actors of all time. So many black and white superbly filmed movies out there that are a "must see". I am 70 and was only called for jury duty once when I was in college 600 miles away and was excused. Out of millions of people in each state it's not unusual to be called once in a lifetime or never.

[@neugassh3570]

I watched this movie after Once upon a time in the west..the contrast in Fonda's acting is crazy...:D

[@Venejan]

Fonda is utterly terrifying in Once Upon a Time in the West! He plays not just a paid killer, but a genuine sadist. Chilling!

[@alphaomega2117]

It's a stunning peice of writing, acting, direction and one of the greates moments in cinema. One of the great things is you never truly know if the boy is guilty or not - it's not really the point - it's about if there is doubt or not.

[@keithferris9574]

And about overcoming one's own prejudices. And how it makes unfair outcomes more likely.

[@alphaomega2117]

@@keithferris9574 There are so many nuances to it - the negative effect of groupthink and peer pressure, the unquestioning acceptance of things youa re told without thinking through the information, arguably the power of charismatic people to sway others to there way of thinking etc etc.

[@TallBob1962]

Those towels dispensers used to be everywhere. Its a roll of cloth. You pull down a fresh section to use and the dirty part is automatically rolled up inside the box. They would collect the used rolls, launder them, and refill.

[@huney8cocoa]

I remember watching this in high school. You can see how 11 out of the 12 jurors voted guilty in the first few minutes, but then as time goes on, a lot of them start pointing out evidence that could show the kid is not guilty. This clearly shows that you have to sit and discuss all of the evidence to actually make a sound decision, instead of just going with your first thought or with the crowd consensus, and possibly throwing someone's life away without thinking things through. This movie is used a lot for legal studies, and a lot of shows and movies have referenced this or even depicted scenes that are similar to this movie because of the great impact it had

[@mikehenry1488]

You don't remember the hand dryers that had the roll of cloth towel? Clean towel would unroll as you pull, dirty wet towel gets rolled up in the back. After its all used the guy would come change the roll.

[@arrow1414]

What happens if the roll wasn't changed?

[@mikehenry1488]

@arrow1414 Well, the towel was stuck on the last section until that time, so you would test it before you just used it.

[@no_rubbernecking]

You said that to be proper, the movie can't reveal if the kid really did it. But it actually did. We had a victim murdered with a downward stab, i.e. with a non-switch knife by a perp who was about as tall or taller. The perp took the weapon with him. The cops entered to see an open wound and no knife. They then framed the kid with a switch knife, not knowing that the wound was aiming down. This is revealed by the testimony of the juror who grew up in the slum: "Anyone who's ever [used one] wouldn't handle it any other way." The proof that the above account was what happened comes from that, combined with the state's own evidence that the stab was downward. The state proved its own frame-up of the defendant, beyond any reasonable doubt.

[@scwyd6769]

watched this movie in my government class senior year. Man this movie is amazing!

[@sherigrow6480]

If you decide to do another black and white film, I would recommend The Third Man. The use of light and dark spaces in a classic film noir in addition to casting and plot,

[@Dej24601]

Agreed! The cinematography in The Third Man is out of this world! It perfectly fits the theme and immediate post-war time period.

[@drasticbread249]

I'm glad that you are watching some classic movies. One that I absolutely recommend for you is Seven Samurai.

[@BillTheScribe]

The thing about these older movies is they didn't have the ability for great special effects, or elaborate car chases. They also weren't allowed to have nudity or nudity-related activities dues to the Hayes Code. That means they had to rely on great writing and character interactions. The Maltese Falcon, The Thin Man, Casablanca, Citizen Cane, there are all classics for a reason.

[@matthewfrison4665]

Those cloth hand towels would be on a large spool so you would pull down to get a fresh area and the dirty would get spooled up and when you ran out they would exchange them and clean them. Had them in public restrooms before the air hand dryers we have now.

[@BigMike246]

The towel is on a reel and once you use it, the next person pulls the towel down to a fresh spot. In my opinion, this is one of the best scripts ever written. I never watched black and white movies, but there are some, like this one, that are better than most movies made today. What a great frigging film. I liked it so much I read the biography of the director, Sidney Lumet.

[@edwinrollins142]

This is the b&w film i saw when i was younger that made me realize that b&w films can be really really really good (and stage plays, too, since this was originally a play)

[@starwish2468]

Funny thing, after a short time of watching a black and white movie, your mind transforms the picture to color.

[@rofl0rblades]

Thank you for pointing out how well this movie is edited

[@CoastalNomad]

Great Reaction to this Classic...... (some on these may have already been shared)..... I saw this Presented Muliple Times as a play in High School (Early 1980's)....... Shout out to the Legends in this Movie...... Henry Fonda, Lee J. Cobb, Jack Klugman, Martin Balsam, E.G. Marshall, Jack Warden, Ed Begley Director Lumet wrote in an article: "I shot the first third of the movie above eye level, shot the second third at eye level, and the last third from below eye level. In that way, toward the end, the ceiling began to appear. Not only were the walls closing in, the ceiling was as well. The sense of increasing claustrophobia did a lot to raise the tension of the last part of the movie." The kid not remembering the films is a believable statement. Movie houses weren't multi-screen when this movie was made. A cinema showed one or two movies so in the evening you could buy a double feature ticket without ever asking the name of the films. An angry kid wanting to get out of the summer heat buys a double feature ticket and spends the time stewing in anger paying no attention to the films is quite believable. The hand towel machine in the restroom doesn't reuse the same cloth. As you pull it down off the top reel, it wraps around another reel in the bottom. Eventually you pull all the towel off the top reel. At that point, all the used towel is wrapped on the bottom reel and can be removed to be laundered. These still exist today ion some places and there's usually a service company that supplies clean rolls and washes the dirty ones. The "Them" they are refering to in the original script were "Puerto Ricans" who had Immigrated...... Another Classic Movie that takes place in one room, is "Arsenic and Old Lace" It had a long run on Broadway, and the movie was shot using most of the actors from the Broadway Production.....

[@colbymorris6034]

Ayyyyyy i been hoping you'd do this one!!!

[@krono5el]

undoubtedly a timeless classic.

[@RobertSmith-rg1hx]

Fun fact: Eddie Murphy is planning to remake this film with an all black cast, with exactly the same script.

[@ammaleslie509]

I'd watch that

[@bonchbonch]

"Excessively memorable" is a great description.

[@Pamtroy]

Those towls were on a roll. You wiped your hands on it, then tugged it so the clean part would be available to the next person.

[@edwinrollins142]

On my own rejection from jury duty, the two questions that got me booted were have i ever been the victim of a crime, and had I ever been convicted of a crime, and my answer to both was yes.

[@manueldeabreu1980]

The one thing that has changed since the advent of cable and the internet is these classic films get lost to time. They use to play on regular tv. It would be tough to put together a cast today that matches this one. It is a tour de force of leading men and character actors. You would need Denzel Washington, Tom Cruise, Morgan Freeman, etc..... If you want to juxtaposition how some remakes are just meh compared to the more famous versions go watch 1950's Ben Hur or watch unremarkable classics like Casablanca or Psycho. The writing, acting and cinematography is just pure art.

[@danielh.5116]

Such a classic!!! Love that you react to this gem!

[@Vlasko60]

The words "kill" and "murder" were very common back then, especially in sports. An older brother may say that to his younger brother; "if you touch my stuff, I'll kill you". Very common, just as the juror points out.

[@DethOnHigh]

The real to reel towel feeds out clean towel as you pull it and the other end is constantly wound up on another reel until the clean part is all used, at which the service company that supplies it changes it out with a clean one and takes the dirty role to be cleaned.

[@BraydenFilms]

You followed this movie perfectly, you saw every argument coming. Good video.

[@billshanks1419]

"The Oxbow Incident" with Henry Fonda is one of my favorites. A few corny bits to get through but a clear, strong message.

[@tedcole9936]

Yes, you will watch this film many times, and you will continue to see great things about it. Great reaction. Good dirt watch!

[@TempestinBlue]

I feel like this movie should be mandatory viewing for demonstration of practical critical thinking skills.

[@robertcampomizzi7988]

16:23 there are 2 rolls. One up top that has fresh and a roll on the bottom that collects used towel. Pull down to get fresh towel. We still had them in school in the 80s early 90s.

[@davidely7032]

Top 5 for him. No buildings blowing up. No shoot outs. No explosions. No spaceships. No CGI. Just a powerful script and great acting. Joseph Sweeney was born in 1884. So his father grewmup during the Civil War and our parents and grandparents grew up during Sweeney's final years. We are not that far away from the Civil War. Juror 2 was the voice of Piglet. The racist Juror was Ed Begley Jr's father. Lumet locked these guys in a room to run lines and amped up the tension in that way. Timeless.

[@Vlasko60]

Most people dispute this, but luck is the #1 factor in every life.

[@dansdiscourse4957]

Elsewhere in the comments people have already mentioned Casablanca and Rear Window, both amazing movies. I'd like to add Inherit The Wind, another black and white legal drama that started as a play, only this one is a fictionalized account of a real case, the Scopes Monkey Trial.

[@lisarainbow9703]

Inherit the Wind is absolutely brilliant...

[@ammaleslie509]

Rear Window is in color

[@dansdiscourse4957]

@@ammaleslie509 True, but it's even older than 12 Angry Men

[@randallshuck2976]

I was called for jury duty four times in 70+ years. I served twice. Once on drug charges, once on sexual assault. Not sure why I was chosen or refused. This is a pretty close example of how we deliberated although the acting level here was much higher quality. Good choice of movie and good reaction. To really ring your bell try Hitchcock's movie, "Rope".

[@aligaines8476]

He would love Rope... It would be interesting to see his take.

[@brianboye8025]

Until you've served on a jury to decide someone's fate, you don't know. You will never know why you were chosen to be on a jury.

[@mohammedashian8094]

“Words mean things” Like hell they do. You can say A LOT of words but it’s your actions that really show who you are as a person

[@imocchidoro]

Great reaction to this brilliant film that's as close to perfect as possible. The one movie where reactors all seem to be drawn INTO it as another juror instead of just watching it. I don't know the rules at the time, but I think if Fonda hadn't done outside research and introduced his own evidence (the knife) it might have turned out differently. AND Lee J. Cobb was phenomenal, as usual.

[@obi-wanjabronii]

One of the most powerful and affecting movies I've watched ❤

[@TairnKA]

I've been called four times and served twice (civil and criminal). Don't worry, you pull the towel down, until you get a clean section. ;-) You've likely figured this out by now, but the term, "Lay you out", means to, knock him to the floor, unconscious. Check out "The Honeymooners" for some reference of what expressions were used in the mid fifties, though in a comedic manner.

[@roystout9751]

the bathroom towels were on a roll. You would pull the towel until a clean/dry area came out and the dirty/wet section would get rolled up into another roll.

[@mrskate7771]

Watch casablanca

[@BrentManStrong]

Even though it's a B&W film, but you should give the Spencer Tracy film INHERIT THE WIND a try. Glad you enjoyed 12 ANGRY MEN. It's a true classic.

[@jakubfabisiak9810]

You want to see an impressive opening scene, watch Touch of Evil by Orson Welles (1958 movie, but make sure you get the 1998 edit that incorporates Welles' memo on how he wanted the film edited). Also an awesome film (and the last true film noir).

[@John-kj7tv]

One of the greatest films ever made.

[@redraven4177]

Glad you enjoyed the movie. There are a great number of good ones out there. Have been watching you for sometime. Bright Blessings to you and yours.

[@kurtwinchell]

Yes, the old school towel dispensers had a loop of cloth, about the same thickness and weave as those red shop rags... I assume they were swapped out and washed, but probably not as often as you would like.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Each user pulled down a new section of towel. No section of towel was reused (unless the user failed to pull down a new section). When the entire length of towel was used, the roll had to be replaced.

[@mike888_ca2]

Another great movie of this era is The Night of the Hunter. It has beautiful imagery which you will enjoy, as well as one of my favorite movie lines: "It's a hard world for little things."

[@Dej24601]

Agreed! “The Night of the Hunter” is a unique American masterpiece-part Film Noir, part fantasy, part horror and one of the most inventive uses of cinematography, as well as combining unexpected music and unusual sound, then or today. What black & white does, is allow for more creativity, force the costuming, the set design, and the lighting to all work together on highlighting exactly what the director and story want to make the audience feel.

[@gordonduke8812]

I knew when I saw the thumbnail, and watching your previous reaction, that you were going to love this film. Your way of using critical thinking to shape your world view was a match made in heaven for this movie. You realize that in the end it doesn't matter if the boy was innocent or not, that isn't the point of a criminal trial or these deliberations. The question is and should always be, was he proven guilty. The writers masterfully put us in that jury room as jurors. We had to listen to the points as they became available, then make sense of them. From the beginning we are put into a position to support the protagonist, and we do. Then the guy in the bathroom hits us with the reality of the situation by pointing out that we could be about to turn a guilty man loose and have him kill again. That's when you realize that the victim must have a voice too, and what a massive responsibility this is and that it has landed in your lap. It's just brilliant writing, and perfect execution by these actors. Great reaction Mr. Boyd, you never disappoint.

[@cardsfanboy]

I love the comment you made about enjoying just one scene for this long... there is only one other movie I've seen that uses this same premise, not quite as well, (as this is literally one of the best movies ever made) but still, another good example is a movie called "Man from Earth" , similar concept, people in a room arguing using their various expertise to pick apart a theory/argument.

[@x3mslayer]

The best thing about this movie: we don't know if the kid was guilty or innocent. And that's the point, the movie is about the 12 angry men. First time I watched, I believe the kid was innocent, now I'm not 100% sure, but I am convinced this movie is brilliant.

[@RobertSmith-rg1hx]

Sidney Lumet is a fantastic director too

[@TonyTigerTonyTiger]

Paul Winkle, who says the boy is definitely guilty, has been saying to me for months that the knife fight in "Rebel Without a Cause" is a crusher for the defense. But it's not, at all. Anyone can watch the "Rebel Without A Cause" knife-fight scene on KZbin. The best video is titled "Rebel Without a Cause (1955) - The Knife Fight Scene (5/10) | Movieclips" and the channel is Movieclips. 1) During the knife fight scene, at least 13 stabs/jabs/thrusts are attempted with switchblades, and *all of them* are attempted with an "underhanded" motion/grip: that is, the way a switchblade knife should be used, not the way a normal knife would be. 2) From the beginning of the knife fight - from the first point where both fighters have their switchblades open (0:33) - to the end - (where the winner throws down his knife (2:02)), it lasts for 1:29 seconds, which is 89 seconds. There are 2 fighters with their knives open through nearly all of that, so I will multiply that by 2: switchblades are open for about 178 seconds. Of that time, only 1 fighter at any point holds his switchblade the wrong way - that is, the way a person would hold a normal knife - and that lasts for only about 5 seconds (1:25 to about 1:30). 5 seconds is less than 3% of the total time. To recap: 1) 100% of the 13+ stabs/jabs/thrusts are done the correct way for a switchblade. 2) For less then 3% of the time is a switchblade held the wrong way (i.e., the way a normal knife would be held), and no stab/jab/thrust is done with it when held the wrong way. THIS IS PAUL'S CRUSHING EVIDENCE, THAT OBLITERATES THE DEFENSE!! PROOF THAT THE BOY IS GUILTY!! THE CRUSHER THAT HE'S BEEN YELLING ABOUT FOR MONTHS!! LOL!!!

[@chrino21]

“To Kill a Mockingbird”. Another similarly great film.

[@Dej24601]

For a lot of films with a mysterious, or foreboding tone, crime thrillers, or set in the Depression or during WW1 or 2, the black & white perfectly sets the mood or keeps a harsh tone, or forces us to focus on the action or dialogue. Often, use of color film would distract attention, or soften the tone. When color was something that would add to the story, it was used; Technicolor began to be used in the late 1930’s and still puts current color film stock to shame. Technicolor has depth, saturation, boldness and longevity that is unmatched.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Yes. Although a lot of movies through the 50s were shot in monochrome to meet the budget, it was a deliberate artistic choice in many others.

[@gurulimbo]

I was lucky enough to see this movie on HBO in my late teens, and the remake shortly after. Definitely helped open my eyes. Great choice! 🤛😎👍 Hope you have a great day and enjoy your day... thoroughly.

[@annephillips8494]

The Father wanted to know his son could handle himself if when he would not be around.Bit like 'A Boy named Sue'.But he got frustrated , never explained just demanded obedience while he also wanting sympatico.He wrote him off instead of helping him constructively.

[@songsayswhat]

That type of towel in the restroom was on some kind of reel. You'd pull it down for a dry bit, but it would roll back up underneath, eventually to come around again. You are 100% correct: gross. Not sure how often they ever got changed out or washed or whatever.

[@indigogolf3051]

Worth nothing that back in those days they emulated the theatre. This was essentially watching a theatre play. They wouldn't dare do that now, and haven't for 50 years. But yet they still came up with a classic.

[@slebetman]

One of my favorite movies!