12 Angry Men (1957) | Reaction and Commentary | First Time Watching

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[@VerowakReacts]

This may be a tough one, but who is one of your favourite jurors? Juror #2 is one of mine with those amazing responses of his!!! Patreon (full length & polls): www.patreon.com/ Subscribe to the channel: kzbin.info Follow me on Twitter for stuff and selfies: twitter.com/verowak

[@LightheartedLoon8]

If we mean a Juror besides the Henry Fonda Juror, I'd have to say....the Old Man next to him.

[@Stogie2112]

McCardle, Juror 9, was the MVP, in my opinion.

[@brettg274]

We’re probably talking the characters here, but for the actors, Lee J Cobb’s performance is the best imo

[@Marc_Fredrick]

It's #8 for me. It's a short movie without him.

[@lyles1962]

I agree it's Lee J Cobb. His acting is so believable you actually hate his character.

[@hurricane1951]

The "tall man", the leader of the not-guilty side, is Henry Fonda. At the time this movie was released, he was one of the top stars in Hollywood, certainly one of the most respected. The others were well-known and experienced actors, mostly in supporting roles. In other words, the cast was stacked, as you can tell by their performances. Look up the bio on Wikipedia for any one of them and you'll be surprised at the number of films they've appeared in.

[@emwa3600]

Every actor can rightfully claim, "This was my best performance/best film" and be correct.

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

​@@emwa3600the guy who was the foreman of the jury was great in Psycho as well

[@pathatfield2543]

I’m mad my favorite courtroom drama, Inherit the Wind(which incidentally is a black and white movie that I was going to suggest you watch) isn’t in A.F.I.s top ten courtroom dramas list.As I said,I hope you watch it and enjoy it.I won’t say much except that it’s based on a real courtroom case,with the main actors,Spencer Tracy and Fredrick March,playing people who actually lived. Other black and white movies I think you should check out are The Manchurian CandidateThe Trial with Orson Wells,Strangers on a train and Shadow of a doubt(both Alfred Hitchcock movies),3:10 to Yuma,High Noon,The Maltese Falcon,The Third Man,The Big Heat,The Man Who Came to Dinner,and Arsenic and Old Lace. If you like horror movies,or just want to give some a try to break up the monotony,there are also some great black and white ones:Night of the Demon,The Black Cat, with Karloff and Lugosi,Night of the Living Dead,The Thing From Another World-which can also be seen as science-fiction-,The Spiral Staircase,and Shadow of the Vampire,a more recent one filmed in black and white,to name a few.I hope you enjoy at least some of them.

[@stratiogesdux]

@@LockeDemosthenes2 Martin Balsam

[@MitchClement-il6iq]

Lee j cobb steals this movie though, he was such a awesome actor

[@StarShipGray]

The best part about this film is that we still don’t know for certain if the kid did it or not and that’s exactly the point.

[@VerowakReacts]

Yes!! I think it's great that we don't know

[@Spidercat616]

Yes, the US judicial system requires jurors with reasonable doubt to vote "not guilty" - which makes me wonder how well received a similar story would be if the jurors are personally sympathetic to the accused and want to deliver a "not guilty" verdict, but need to find him/her guilty based on the overwhelming evidence provided by the prosecution.

[@mikeh8416]

@@Spidercat616 The knife is NOT "reasonable" doubt. Reasonable being more likely than not, it's FAR FROM "more likely" that someone with a similar knife did the deed. That ONE piece of evidence, they were unable to disprove. The other explanations WERE reasonable but not this one. *_GUILTY_*

[@Ozai75]

@@mikeh8416 It absolutely is. There was no tangible evidence that linked him to the knife besides witness testimony (which is notoriously unreliable) and the fact that another knife that looks *exactly* like the murder weapon shows that the testimony of the Pawn broker (I'd only ever seen one like it) is false. It shows flat out that the knife is unreliable evidence.

[@mikeh8416]

@@Ozai75 The CHANCES of that being the case is what's not "reasonable".. The POSSIBILITY of someone using a similar knife (let alone an identical one) is pretty low considering HOW MANY different styles of knives there are/were available. Also taking into consideration one of the MOST important parts (motive), there was no report of any items stolen, or mention of a break-in. What WAS mentioned is that the kids father beat him on a regular basis, and had a fight with him THAT NIGHT where he punched him. Last but not least, the "angle" argument was weak AT BEST, since that's HOW it was done. He wasn't going against someone else fighting back, and would have needed to CONCEAL it until he reached his father, which would be MUCH EASIER to do with the blade against the wrist (pinky hold) than pointing straight out. Kid was GUILTY..

[@TheChiefpokishi]

Juror #4 (the one in a suit with glasses) is my absolute favorite character in this film. Unlike some other jurors who continued to vote a guilty verdict, he had no bias or agenda. He arrived at his verdict through logic and reasoning. It was only after all the evidence was scrutinized and given probable cause as to their legitimacy did he then change his mind and admitted that he could be wrong. Great example of how a debate should work and be carried out.

[@richelliott9320]

I feel the same way .EG Marshall was fantastic

[@racheldrum1982]

My thoughts exactly and well expressed.

[@killiansalah]

I absolutely agree about Juror 4 being my favorite. I’m sure bias is involved for me because EG Marshall has always reminded me of my grandfather, especially in Christmas Vacation, but still. But he is cool, calm, and collected nearly the entire film. I say nearly, because of how significant the bead of sweat is. I tend to think logically like he does, or at least I think I do. And I can be easy to get along with in any situation but also have a limit too, hence the “sit down and don’t open your mouth again”. Every character in this film is amazing, but I’m with you, #4 is my favorite.

[@sithlordkaeyl21]

This is an absolute masterclass in screenwriting, acting, directing, and filmmaking. It’s great how amazing this movie is with basically being in one room the whole time.

[@VerowakReacts]

I love movies with very minimal settings... It always makes me want to watch it as a play afterwards lol

[@Minion_of_Cthulhu]

@@VerowakReacts If you want another film with a minimal setting, check out Rope by Alfred Hitchcock. It takes place entirely in one apartment, mostly in one room, aside from the establishing shot at the beginning. A large portion of the first part of the film is also a single shot, and the rest of the film has scenes up to ten minutes long and uses some clever editing so that the entire film appears to be one long uncut take. There are a total of just ten edits in the entire film.

[@sithlordkaeyl21]

@@VerowakReacts, I bet all of the people behind the curtains would really like only having to deal with a one room play, as well. I’ve never been a part of a play, but I’m sure they’d really appreciate that they only had to deal with basically just the one room, instead of doing multiple sets, if there are many plays that have more than one room in them.

[@petercastaneda5338]

Lee J. Cobb was a brilliant actor with an incredible and lengthy acting repertoire, playing both good guys and villains You’ve got to remember that actors usually take on roles to explore and they are trying to express ideas and beliefs that they’re trying to convey to the audience. Your disdain for the character is a testament to the actors performance.

[@TedLittle-yp7uj]

To see Cobb in a very different role, watch "The Song of Bernadette."

[@thamnosma]

Lee J. Cobb is always a calling card. Just rewatched The Dark Past in which he plays a criminal psychiatrist. A bit of a Spellbound copy as he explores the deeply repressed memory of William Holden's character. Obviously he's a good guy in that one.

[@markdodson6453]

I've always thought that if I could go back in time to see one legendary performance, it would be Lee J. Cobb in the original staging of Death of a Salesman. Cobb is such a force of nature, to see his portrayal of Will Loman, a man brought low by life, must have been an amazing thing.

[@SueProv]

Lee J Cobb also played rather psychiatrist in 3 Faces of Eve.

[@SueProv]

Nevwmer watching another performance of either actor because the current role was unlikeable is as ridiculous as the character who judged an entire ethnicity.

[@captbunnykiller1.0]

"What are they so pissed off about? The weather?" Precisely.

[@VerowakReacts]

Old man yells at cloud, is the vibe I was going for 🤣

[@jnagarya519]

@@VerowakReacts The "Old Man" was probably the most insightful of the jurors. And the immigrant -- the juror with the moustache -- was an example of integrity and actual respect for the system and due process.

[@gawainethefirst]

The weather did play a factor.

[@MusicBlik]

@@gawainethefirst Yeah, mostly symbolism. The weather mirrored the action--it was great directing.

[@chadbennett7873]

One of the most perfectly constructed films of all-time. As an old fart, I can tell you that most of the greatest films are black & white. For me, the best part was the moment of grace that Davis showed to the Lee J. Cobb character by helping him put on his coat at the end. Nobody was left in the room to even see it. My favorite "It's A Wonderful Life" is a life-changer, and anything else by Frank Capra is uplifting ... "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington", "It Happened One Night", just brilliant stuff. A Howard Hawks film, "His Gal Friday" is absolutely genius. Your reactions are heart-touching. You watch with your heart, and we can feel it beating, and it shows in your expressions. I feel that I'm watching with a close friend. Thank you for that gift. One thing you might consider at some point is silent films. I am a student of them, a huge DVD collection of silents, and they are the foundation on which all other films are built. Harold Lloyd films are genius at such a level, that we will never see it again, and they were still learning how to make films. Chaplin, Keaton, Laurel & Hardy are all incredible. I have a collection of signatures of all of them, including the silent dramatic filmmakers like DW Griffith, Douglas Fairbanks, Clara Bow, Mary Pickford and many others. Judging from your attention to detail, I really believe you would love them ... not sure how well it would go over for reactions, but try a short from Harold Lloyd called "Safety Last." I promise you'll love it. It's only about an hour and 13 minutes, and it will tickle your funny bone. Thanks for being you and sharing yourself with us.

[@stratiogesdux]

I like to think of that scene as "Redemption and Forgiveness".

[@chadbennett7873]

@@stratiogesdux Exactly as I see it. That's why it's the most important scene in the entire film, in my mind. Nice comment!

[@BetterGreta13]

Ys, a powerful moment...

[@DavidB-2268]

Henry Fonda was so insistent on playing his role that he took on the job of producer. Apparently, he never got his full paycheck for this movie. But he considered it his best and one of the most important roles of his career.

[@lyles1962]

Anytime you love or hate a character so much in movie it just shows how great of an actor they are.

[@VerowakReacts]

Yes!!! I love it when I feel strongly for a character!

[@lyles1962]

Imagine what their rehearsals were like.

[@RMBittner]

There are so many black-and-white movies I could recommend. But “All About Eve,” “Casablanca,” “Some Like It Hot,” and “Bringing Up Baby” would all be at the top.

[@ralphpal]

Arsenic and old.lace..

[@nmt2k2]

I would add Captain's Courageous.

[@Forever-my4wp]

Tracey and Hepburn in "Adam's Rib"

[@apulrang]

These are all great suggestions for black and white movies. If you want to try a couple of silent films, consider "Metropolis" (1927), which is a science fiction film, and "The Passion of Joan of Arc," which I think you'd have to call a very early "art film," which showcases very ahead-of-its time film making and acting techniques.

[@user-cr5mq9lz8r]

2 iconic James (Jimmy) Stewart's; "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" & "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington". So many, many, many others..."To Kill A Mockingbird"

[@ammaleslie509]

Classic B&W movies: Casablanca, To Kill A Mockingbird, Witness for the Prosecution, Psycho, Inherit the Wind

[@jasonward1470]

yes. you named three great courtroom dramas there.

[@alfredroberthogan5426]

All are outstanding films. 1942's "Casablanca" is my No. 2 favorite film (after only 1964's "Mary Poppins").

[@saucermcfly]

Oh, excellent list!

[@crawdaddy2004]

Sabrina, Young Frankenstein (though that was 1970’s), Clerks (1990’s), Roman Holiday, Citizen Kane (though I wouldn’t call this an “entertaining” film).

[@crawdaddy2004]

@@alfredroberthogan5426Mary Poppins is tied for my favorite film… with Pulp Fiction. 😂

[@BunBun299]

This movie is proof that you don't need a bloated CGI budget, numerous locations, highly destructive car chases, etc. 12 good actors, 2 rooms (if you count the men's room separately), and a solid script.

[@philipem1000]

Pretty sure this was a stage play before they made it into a movie.

[@kevinlakeman5043]

Wow, what an original 'hot take'. That's not tired, grumpy old guy talk at all. Lighten up, Francis.

[@Dej24601]

@@philipem1000yes! “Twelve Angry Men" is a 1954 teleplay directed by Franklin J. Schaffner and written by Reginald Rose for the American anthology television series ‘Studio One.’The production was staged in New York City and aired live on September 20, 1954. The production won three Emmy Awards: for Rose's writing, Schaffner's direction, and for Robert Cummings as Best Actor (the Henry Fonda role.)

[@petermcculloch4933]

​@@Dej24601Thanks for sharing your knowledge.Much appreciated.

[@sdhartley74]

The little guy in glasses is the original voice of Piglet!

[@EShelby2127]

Mr Peterson on The Bob Newhart Show...

[@tedrowland8672]

Who is Piglet??

[@sdhartley74]

@@tedrowland8672 the character from Winnie-the-Pooh, children's book

[@tedrowland8672]

Winnie? Pooh?

[@jerr0.]

@@tedrowland8672 How do you know how to use KZbin but not Google?

[@scgreek1114]

This fantastic film is not about right or wrong, guilt or Innocence. It's about debate, which we no longer have, and confirmation bias, which is all we're left with.

[@jnagarya519]

It's about REASON, on which rule of law and due process are based.

[@bobcharles1204]

Arsenic and Old Lace is a great old black and white movie

[@mrtveye6682]

+1 would love to see a reaction to that classic.

[@Bookworm-ye9qi]

Good play too

[@jasonward1470]

The Cary Grant version. Hilarious

[@Forever-my4wp]

It would be great for Halloween!

[@bigbow62]

A true laugh a minute classic 😂 How 'bout Cary Grant in Bringing up Baby with the one and only Katherine Hepburn ❤ or His Girl Friday with Rosalind Russell Mr. Blandings Builds his Dream Home (1948) Carry Grant & Myrna Loy The movie The Money Pit from the 80s was based on this film. It starred Tom Hanks and Shelly Long ( from Cheers TV series.) Also a very good movie with a very young Tom Hanks

[@corralescoyote3360]

My two favorite aspects of this film are the music (there is music, but only in a few moments), and the fact that each juror’s occupation determines how they approach the case: architect, watchmaker, small business owner, contractor, salesman, ad man, high school football coach, etc… ❤😊

[@shallendor]

This is one of my favorite movies! Basically 12 talented actors in 1 room with a fabulous script, sounds like a boring movie but produces one of the most riveting movies of all time! Lee J Cobb was the star of the show and he proved what a fabulous actor he is in this movie!

[@jnagarya519]

The were all stars. Jack Klugman is especially impressive as the one who grew up in a slum -- and yet has a character lacking in both the loud-mouth bully and the racist.

[@crawdaddy2004]

I actually watched the 1954 TV production. Jurors 4, 9 and 11 are actually the same people.

[@mildredpierce4506]

The guy who had not seen his son in two years, was constantly disrespecting the old gentleman, and he wonders why his kid doesn’t have any respect for him.

[@ariochiv]

To Kill a Mockingbird -- if you're looking for an excellent black and white movie, you couldn't do any better than that.

[@fuxion22]

12 angry men and one angry Verowak. hehe. I like how the last guy said 'not guilty' twice. Once for his son, and once for the case.

[@Reclining_Spuds]

"To Kill a Mockingbird" is a must see! 👍👍

[@Forever-my4wp]

Agreed - although it is a tough subject matter.

[@NoHandleGrr]

Doesn't hold up so well these days. Stories about African-Americans and civil rights are better told from the perspective of the people who suffered and struggled, not people saved by white saviors who have to be the protagonists. Means well, but is very much of its day now.

[@roywall8169]

The Ox Bow Incident is a must see black and white movie.

[@nmt2k2]

This was originally a teleplay, before it was a movie. It was done on Playhouse 90. Imagine doing this on live television, with the entire country watching you

[@VerowakReacts]

That's a LOT of dialogue for everyone. I love theatre, so I need to see 12 Angry Men on stage now

[@iKvetch558]

Always happy to see folks being exposed to this film for the first time. Sidney Lumet is one of the great directors of all time, and this is one of his best...it also stars Henry Fonda. Another movie by Lumet that I always recommend is Fail Safe from 1964. Other older movies that I suggest that are not from Lumet are To Kill a Mockingbird(1962), Inherit the Wind(1960), and Judgement at Nuremberg(1961)...all three are highly renowned courtroom dramas filmed in black and white.

[@thamnosma]

Lumet made great dramas. Some I know I've watched a dozen times. However, I feel he had a major weakness in portraying women. They always seem like afterthroughts or just not flushed out as characters. In the Verdict, the combo of Lumet and Rampling....ugh. Of course, the drama is superlative.

[@GeraldH-ln4dv]

This is also Sidney Lumet's first ever movie as a director. He had previously only done TV directing. Quite a debut. The cinematographer, Boris Kaufman, is also one of the greats. He won the Oscar for Best Cinematography just a few years before this movie, for his work filming On the Waterfront.

[@Marc_Fredrick]

Great call on all three of the non-Lumet classics set in courts of law. The performances of Spencer Tracy, Fredric March, Gregory Peck, and Burt Lancaster are among the best of each actor's career.

[@jnagarya519]

@@thamnosma "The Verdict" is Paul Newman's greatest performance.

[@Bookworm-ye9qi]

"Eyewitness testimony" is the last thing I would trust.

[@jasonward1470]

It's the most unreliable type of testimony there is.

[@GeraldH-ln4dv]

And yet, it often results in more convictions than other types of evidence, when juries are polled. One of the reasons why I am against the death penalty. The growing numbers of those convicted and sent to prison for decades, who then turned out to be innocent thanks to DNA testing, makes it near certain that before DNA testing many people were executed for crimes that they didn't commit.

[@Stogie2112]

Some great B/W films: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" (1951) - Classic Sci-Fi Cold War drama! "Psycho" (1960) - Alfred Hitchcock rules! "The Miracle Worker" (1962) - The wonderful story of Helen Keller and her teacher "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb" (1964): Best satire ever And, of course, the Christmas films! "It's A Wonderful Life" (1946) and "Miracle on 34th Street" (1947)

[@alanholck7995]

Also - Schindler’s List.

[@Stogie2112]

@@alanholck7995 ... My list is of older B/W films: from the 40's thru 60's

[@user-yu9uw8wo9o]

I'm so glad you suggested 'The Day The Earth Stood Still'

[@RedKytten]

Dr Strangelove holds a special place for me... it is wonderful. The Day the Earth Stood Still is wonderful as well. The other two are good movies, but I saw them at a time when I was not really open too them, so they didn't land well with me, but they are both still great movies!

[@alexspindler1]

I have a deep love for Invasion of the Body Snatchers 1956 (paired with the 1978 version), and Strangers on a Train (paired with Throw Momma From the Train). Two sets of wonderful double features of a sort.

[@MrGBH]

Henry Fonda deferred his payment for this film, as did the director. The movie was a commercial flop, which means they never got paid. But Fonda still considered this his best movie.

[@rg3388]

This film came to mind when I watched DUNE. When the Fremen are said to be "dangerous and unreliable," I sarcastically said, "Oh, there're some GOOD things about 'em, too. I've known a COUPLE who were okay."

[@christhompson6010]

You were witnessing some of the greatest actors of their generation. You owe them the benefit of other films. You also experienced what happens when great directing cinematography writing and acting all converge at the same time. One of the most famous films of all time.

[@rickwiles8835]

These actors were masters of their craft at the time they were the best of the best. Each of them could play any character a good guy, a bad guy, an excitable person, a level-headed guy it didn't matter what character needed to be played any of these actors could play any role.

[@dh728]

Here are a few older B&W films that are fantastic: Casablanca, It Happened One Night, The Maltese Falcon, The Third Man. Honestly, classic Hollywood has a LOT to offer. This list could easily be in the dozens or even the hundreds, but I can pretty much guarantee you will love these

[@jenngray8769]

The Third Man is such an amazing film that nobody reacts to. It should be on everybody’s list to watch.

[@bobbuethe1477]

I've never seen "It Happened One Night," but I agree the others are all great.

[@randallshuck2976]

Good pick. It is a masterpiece. Have you seen "Casablanca" "Rear Window", North by Northwest", "Harvey" or "Rope", "To Catch a Thief", "Roman Holiday"? All are of this time period and all are excellent. There are a lot of WWII era movies that are fun. The difference is no special effects and much more reliance on acting ability and story telling. Hope you enjoy this one.

[@crawdaddy2004]

I’m surprised no one ever talks about “Sabrina.” That’s one of my all-time favorite movies.

[@markalleneaton]

@@crawdaddy2004 Agreed + the fun of seeing the choices made in the later version (w/ Julia Ormond & Harrison Ford). Also 3:10 to Yuma, True Grit, Father of the Bride, etc.

[@randallshuck2976]

@@crawdaddy2004 Oversight on my part. "Sabrina" is an excellent story. There are too many. "Bell, Book and Candle", "Serendipity", "Shop around the Corner" also come to mind.

[@tddonahue4244]

Grapes of Wrath , Casablanca , Maltese Falcon, On The Waterfront. some great black and whites

[@ardvark8699]

Metropolis

[@steveallen8987]

An absolute must watch courtroom drama is “MY COUSIN VINNY” probably the most popular with lawyers. Accurate & funny. Steve

[@EllisThings]

absolutely, crazy that it wasn't in that top ten courtroom movies list

[@jefflewandowski7559]

Drama? It's a dated comedy

[@EllisThings]

you're a dated comedy

[@crisdekker8223]

B&W films: "Casablanca", the original "Invasion of the body snatchers."

[@alanholck7995]

Casablanca is on the short list for greatest film of all time.

[@wmwestbroek]

“Notorious”

[@mlong1958]

This movie is a masterpiece in character exploration and development. Set in a claustrophobic room with no working fan on the hottest day of the year. Everything is designed to draw you into the story. These were some of the biggest stars of their age. This won the Writer's Guild of America award for best writing as well as numerous other awards, including a BAFTA. You would like The Grapes of Wrath, also staring Henry Fonda. BTW, Vincent Donofrio stared in law and order criminal intent, as the lead detective.

[@ChoppersModelworks]

Harvy-1950, Jimmy Steward's personal favorite role.

[@rabbitandcrow]

Great movie!

[@victorpena9824]

Good Job, Hon. If one doesn't get excited watching this, then they don't have a brain. I'm 66 y/o dude and I was never chosen for jury duty. My heart couldn't take it. Keep it up! Love from Texas.❤

[@roywall8169]

This is one of the most important works of art ever put on film. It shows how far we have come, and highlights that there are always areas of improvement society can make…..all in the context of a trial. The fact that a movie that takes place in basically one room is so powerful, speaks to the script, actors and directing. Its an all time classic.

[@congoliab]

He can't hear you....he never will.

[@dillwack]

Fact: It’s better to set a guilty man free than to kill an innocent one.

[@tedrowland8672]

That's just your opinion...you can't PROVE it!!!

[@jnagarya519]

"Anatomy of a Murder" stars the great James Stewart. And "Judgment at Nuremberg" is powerfully moving.

[@ariochiv]

There seems to be an inversely proportional relationship between how loudly a person argues and how well that person is able to listen. I think there's also a similarly inverse relationship between a person's volume and his self-esteem. Confident people tend to be quiet.

[@jeff-xm7fg]

Lee J. Cobb is the man. The way he breaks at the end .. It never fails to get me. And then once that wave breaks, all that animosity between his character and Fonda's just melts away, because he wasn't really fighting the other jurors, he was fighting his absent son - and had been for years. All that emotion pent up for years. And once it came out he is left empty, and perhaps lighter? The way he and Fonda interact at the end is so good. Just a great performance by a great actor who doesn't get enough credit for what he brings to this compelling story.

[@lilychris811]

So many great black-and-white films but my all-time favorite has to be "To Kill A Mockingbird."

[@TheReturnOfSak]

We gotta get Verowak watching more older movies. 12 Angry Men is a master class in film making. Any there's a whole bunch of movies pre-1960 that are considered masterpieces. Casablanca, The Maltese Falcon, Gaslight, Double Indemnity, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Rear Window, To Kill a Mockingbird, there definitely is no shortage of great films.

[@gregall2178]

A minor nit... To Kill A Mockingbird was post-1960... 1962 to be exact 🙂. Excellent movie, tho... The DVD was a gift to me from my late father 🙂

[@srahhh]

"Say something!" "I'm giving up on you..." 😂 I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that!

[@VerowakReacts]

I'm so glad someone commented this!!! Thank you for picking up on it 🤣

[@token1371]

Hi Verowak, my choices for you are Citizen Kane and His Girl Friday. At 44, I've been on 7 trials and was foreperson on 3 murder cases. My advice is to say anything NOT to serve, and never murder. The autopsy evidence never leaves you. I was idealistic.

[@jkhoover]

Well, Clerks is a black and white movie I highly recommend, even though that's not exactly what you meant.

[@samuraiwarriorsunite]

A great film, brilliantly cast and acted. The camerawork was exceptional in the way it weaved between the actors and set, giving both depth. They truly don't make them like this anymore.

[@adamcollazo8228]

"12 Angry Men" was originally a theatrical play. This film is based on that play.

[@derekhiemforth]

With all of the advances to movie audio and video technologies over the years, it's interesting to note that this film is still one of the 5 or 6 best movies I've ever seen.

[@sodiumcrush]

If only all juries could have as much integrity and self-awareness. The writing is top notch. A bit heavy handed at times but it works so well. The setting. The pacing and rhythm. So many great actors in this film. You've got so many great films from back then to see.

[@jamesdrynan]

One of many pleasing aspects of KZbin is watching people react to music and movies before their time. Seeing how involved young people become watching this classic is wonderful. I regard this movie to be perfect in all aspects.

[@MrDevintcoleman]

I served jury duty for the first time a couple months ago and despite it not being this heated, it resembled this enough that this movie really resonates.

[@stanfluellen2689]

This is one of the best examples of how cinema could be better today if there were more human beings talking to each other and fewer exploding robots.

[@ianhislop6782]

And an example of how the world could be better.

[@kevinlakeman5043]

There were robots, explosions, action movies 30-40-50 years ago. You memory cherrypickers so conveniently forget or deny that again and again, what you rail against and whine about was happening decades ago. Also, nobody forces you or your ilk to watch 'exploding robots' (what movies are these, btw, cuz I very rarely ever see that). There are thousands (literally) of movies made each year around the world, and I'd say 96% of them or more don't have those darn exploding robots, but they sure have human beings talking to each other.

[@stanfluellen2689]

@@kevinlakeman5043 I'm sorry. I should have been more specific. I mean films where the dialogue is actually good.

[@brettg274]

“The weather” was not a bad guess 😆

[@BornRandy62]

this movie is from 1957. It is the time period where air conditioning was not a common appliance in households. Where it was found was Department Stores which generally closed around 8 pm, Supermarkets in the refrigeration section and also closed around 8 PM, and Movie Theaters. People would pay for a ticket and sit in the cool space for a relief from the heat. They said it was they hottest day of the year. How many times have you walked into the beer cooler at a convenience store to keep from melting?

[@user-eh8cg4bp3y]

Henry Fonda spoke of witnessing a lynching in his youth and how this experience influenced him in several of the roles he chose, like this one. A somewhat difficult and abrasive character in real life which is brought a lot of comfort to his family relationships.

[@tomm2907]

Great reaction to an all time classic.🎉🎉 To Kill A Mockingbird would be a great follow-up this masterpiece of a film. You'd definitely enjoy A Few Good Men. Some other classic black and white films: Casablanca, Arsenic And Old Lace, Citizen Kane, The Maltese Falcon.

[@CookBonnie]

Casablanca...the best B&W movie ever

[@zacharyjoy8724]

Thanks for reacting to this! I personally consider this to be one of those rare films that everyone should watch at least once.

[@sfkeepay]

Your comment about prejudice coming into the deliberation process reminded me of something Benjamin Franklin wrote: “When you assemble a number of men to have the advantage of their joint wisdom, you inevitably assemble with those men, all their prejudices, their passions, their errors of opinion, their local interests, and their selfish views.” This movie show both the great wisdom and clear precariousness of putting important decisions before a relatively large group of people - and the hope that at least one voice of insight might find a way to discover justice. Awesome, awesome film. Legends like Fonda, Marshall…but really the whole cast was so clearly invested in making something timeless.

[@haleyschreiter9746]

All About Eve is another brilliant black and white classic 😃

[@manueldeabreu1980]

The bald guy with the glasses, whose character you love is John Fiedler. He is best known as the voice of Piglet in Winnie the Pooh.

[@oxhine]

Hey, Veronique! This was originally a teleplay for a "Playhouse 90"-type show in the '50's which were basically filmed theatrical productions broadcast during the early days of American TV. Before formulaic sitcoms and dramas became TV staples, actual playwrights were tapped to provide original or adapted content of high quality. The story really works as a theatrical piece with 12 players in one setting. A few years later, the great Sidney Lumet (pronounced Loom-ET) directed it for film. Lumet is considered one of the quintessential New York directors like Woody Allen, Martin Scorsese and Spike Lee. The film is considered one of the greatest courtroom dramas ever made. It is my 11th favorite film of all time! I like how Fonda's chief antagonists are fire and ice: the bombastic Lee J. Cobb and the coolly logical E.G. Marshall. The cast was stacked with some of the best character actors of the day some of which had amazing careers like Martin Balsam, John Fiedler, E.G. Marshall, Jack Klugman, Jack Warden, Ed Begley and Robert Webber. However, it's live-wire Lee J. Cobb who steals the spotlight with his histrionics and rage! When he has his breakthrough and realizes why he's rushed to judgment, his collapse is shattering and brings me to tears every time. Henry Fonda's magnanimity as he helps him to his feet and gives him his coat is equally moving. Foreigner George Voskovec and the elderly Joseph Sweeney were holdovers from the TV production. A remake was made for cable TV with a black Mykelti Williamson portraying a reverse racist. Jack Lemmon had the Fonda role and George C. Scott had the Cobb role. Courtney B. Vance was the foreman, venerable Ossie Davis was the milquetoast, Armin Mueller-Stahl was the logical stockbroker, Dorian Harewood of "Hill Street Blues" was the slum escapee, James Gandolfini of "The Sopranos" was the blue collar guy, Tony Danza of "Who's the Boss?" was the sports guy, the legendary Hume Cronyn was the elderly gent, Edward James Olmos of "Battlestar Galactica" played the foreigner and William Petersen of "CSI" played the ad exec. Despite the heavy-hitters in the cast, it doesn't have the same power as the original. I feel some of the players would have been better served by being assigned different parts. The reverse racist angle was a clever one, though. Another remake was considered by adding women to the mix. The project was abandoned because the inclusion of female energy would change the dynamic of the story and the energy of the room.

[@GeraldH-ln4dv]

This movie is a perfect storm of genius, a coming together of great director, great writer, great cinematographer, and accomplished and wonderfully talented stage/screen actors. I think it is among the greatest movies ever made.

[@aliciaa4859]

12 brilliant actors, all at the top of their games, a killer script and a phenomenal director & team and we have one of the greatest films ever made. the simplicity yet beauty of this movie stunned me when i was kid. this movie stands the test of time and proves movies today don’t need all that cgi and crazy camera shots to make a great film other amazing black and white movies to watch: on the waterfront, citizen kane, psycho, schindlers list, whatever happened to baby jane, wait until dark (really all audrey hepburn’s movies) and imitation of life

[@PaulMcCaffreyfmac]

The Aprtment is a 'must-see' film. Also. conveniently, it happens to be in black and white

[@Shadowfax-1980]

It’s pretty cool how effectively they’re able to establish each character’s personality pretty early in the movie.

[@Tampahop]

The first time I was called to jury duty was in Florida. At the time, one of the big stories in the news was a class action lawsuit against the pharmaceutical company Merck. The trial I was screened for was a local sports celebrity who had been convinced he could get more money by not being a part of the class action lawsuit. They normally called a pool of 50 prospects to get, in this case, six jurors, but this was going to be a much longer case with weeks of expert testimony, so the pool for this trial started with 150 prospective jurors. Although I wasn't selected, I was interested enough to follow the events. Merck lost their class action lawsuit, but won the single plaintiff trial. Apparently they were able to show he was predisposed to the condition the drug in question may have caused.

[@darrellyounyvski591]

if you want a war flick in black & white, try 'Stalag 17' with William Holden and Peter Graves

[@thething1710]

Second with Stalag 17! Great film ❤

[@fullmetalt-shirt8355]

To Kill a Mockingbird is another great one.

[@ponfed]

The beauty of the character writing is also.. they all had different motivations and rationale and even predjudice. And they all flipped for different reasons. Convinced for different reasons. Glasses man at the end, was the last hold over...and he was convinced that he had his, rational reason. When they gave him rational proof, he came back and switched. Bigot guy had to have an emotional punch. And its all distinct... beautiful ensemble cast and character writing all around..

[@bravejango12]

30:00 I'm glad I'm not the only one that hears songs when lyrics are said in random conversations.

[@JohnVinylGen]

If you liked this film and want to see another black and white film with a great court case that deals with bigotry at the center consider watching "To Kill A Mockingbird" (1962) based on an American novel of the same name by Harper Lee. Great film.

[@jmiyagi12345]

Casablanca and The Apartment - great B&W movies

[@user-ln4bb6te3i]

To Kill A Mockingbird is a must see.

[@JM63movies]

It's a Wonderful Life (1946) is another excellent B&W movie. Stars Jimmy Stewart, directed by Frank Capra. Stewart was Henry Fonda's lifelong friend, going back to their summer outdoor theater and Broadway days in the 1930s.

[@Rockaria23]

You should check out a couple of classics featuring James Cagney. Angels With Dirty Faces (1938) White Heat (1949) 😊

[@planetcampervan]

Love cagney and they are my 2 favourite films with him in

[@FloridaMugwump]

You can't watch Angels with Dirty Faces without watching Dead End first, that would be ridiculous.

[@jnagarya519]

"Yankee Doodle Dandy" -- director Michael Curtiz. Cagney got Best Actor. Best Film, Best Screenplay, Best Director went to Curtiz's "Casablanca".

[@Urugosh]

Too add another black and white film that wasn't mentioned: "Treasure of the Sierra Madre."

[@mildredpierce4506]

All of the actors in this movie have a wide wrench of characters and other movies. They are not one trick ponies. They are very talented. Juror Davis, played by Henry Fonda, is in a movie called the wrong man. Very good movie.

[@LeeWinstead1962]

Jack Klugman is my favorite in everything he does, he's the one who lived in the slums all his life

[@sleeplessnerd7781]

Witness for the Prosecution Stalag 17 Casablanca Key Largo (well anything Bogart and Becall)

[@oluf999]

From the black and white era I would recommend some Charlie Chaplin movies: City Lights (1931) Modern Times (1936) The Great Dictator (1940) And also another great movie with Henry Fonda: The Lady Eve (1941) Witness for the Prosecution (1957) is also black and white.

[@dow311]

Wow great titles. City Lights has to be my all time favorite silent film.

[@oluf999]

@@dow311 Have you seen the music video "recap" kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6mzg42CZZ6bfck ? It brings a tear to my eye.

[@jnagarya519]

And "Witness for the Prosecution" has the superlative acting of Charles Laughton and his real-life wife Elsa Lanchester. And though it may not be as familiar, or classified as a "courtroom drama," there is 1966's superb "A Man for All Seasons," winner of 6 Oscars.

[@jonathanwilliamson2948]

The juror with the cough drops was also the voice of Piglet from Winnie the Pooh.

[@toodlescae]

Fun Mystery b&w 6 movie series I love starts with *The Thin Man* in 1934. Other b&w movies: Arsenic & Old Lace Casablanca Three Godfathers Night Of The Hunter Cape Fear Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein The Women (first all female cast) THEM! The loud angry guy finally realized that his issues with *his* son were clouding his judgement. The best way to see Vincent D'Onofrio as a good guy is to watch him as Detective Goren in Law & Order: Criminal Intent.

[@TedLittle-yp7uj]

"The Women" (1939) has one of the greatest two women confrontations in the movies between Norma Shearer and Joan Crawford. It also features many of the top female stars of the day. There was a worthless remake.

[@castorpollux5972]

Plot twist: the boy did it. 😂

[@aaronthesaxman660]

One thing I like about the film is the fact that this is certainly possible! He may have actually done it. The old man and woman across the street could've just not seen him. And the boy very likely may have not gone to the movies. I love that the film focuses on the significance of doing the process correctly.

[@Jeff_Lichtman]

Juror 10 didn't speak a word after juror 4 (E.G. Marshall) told him not to open his mouth again. Even when casting his final vote, he did it by shaking his head. 12 Angry Men was director Sidney Lumet's first theater film (he had already directed things for television). Some of his other movies include "The Pawnbroker," "Fail Safe," "Serpico, ", "Murder on the Orient Express," "Dog Day Afternoon," "Network," "The Wiz," "The Verdict" and "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead." "Dog Day Afternoon" is a favorite of mine that was nominated for six Oscars, including Best Picture, and it won for Best Original Screenplay. Lumet began the movie using camera angles above the jurors' heads, and slowly moved it downwards. He also used more close-ups as the movie went on. The result was an increasing feeling of being in a small space. One thing I like about this movie is how the different characters bring their own experiences and perspectives into the jury room with them. The old man understood why another old man would testify the way he did. The guy who lived in a slum knew about how switchblades were used in actual fights. The smallest juror brought up the question of the kid stabbing downward while being so much shorter than his father. The most stubborn juror was played by Lee J. Cobb, and the bigot was played by Ed Begley, Sr. That you hated them is a testament to their acting skill. You're not supposed to like them. I think it would be a mistake to avoid other movies that they've been in. It's their characters who are despicable, not the actors themselves. Here are some recommendations for black and white movies to react to: M (1931) Bringing Up Baby (1938) Citizen Kane (1941) The Maltese Falcon (1941) Casablanca (1942) Gaslight (1944) Double Indemnity (1944) It's a Wonderful Life (1946) The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) The Third Man (1949) All About Eve (1950) Roman Holiday (1953) Some Like It Hot (1959) The Apartment (1960) Psycho (1960) Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) It's a Wonderful Life is a Christmas movie, so you might want to save it until then. And, yes, you should definitely watch The Wizard of Oz. It's not just a movie, but a core piece of American culture.

[@mrtveye6682]

Such a brilliant movie. And it's not even primary about "guilty or not", it's about prejudices, it's about being able to look at things from a different perspective, listen to arguments. And that's all topics that are still as relevant today as they've been back than. Maybe even more relevant today, with everyone and their dog throwing out opinions as facts on social media and living in their own "bubble".

[@subitman]

12 Angry Man was a play before it became a move. I'm not sure. Another good b/w movie is Casablanca. It's about WWII when the Nazis tried to take over a bar in an independent town. It starred Humphrey Bogman and Ingrid Bergman. It was colorized but the colors were awful. Try to look for the b/w version.

[@TedLittle-yp7uj]

Please never watch a colourized movie. If it was filmed in black and white, the makers designed it for black and white. Colour distorts the intention.

[@sandrasullivan7247]

A really good B&W movie is the dark comedy "Arsenic & Old Lace"

[@NZBigfoot]

As someone thats served on 4 juries in the last 20 years... while they arent all like the one in the movies, the archetypes are always there. Was on a drug case for a guy who was at the home when the police raided the house, so he was the one that was arrested even though all the evidence showed he wasnt involved and the prosecution simply wanted someone to convict. The oldest male on the jury (in his 70s) was literally the 'THEIR all guilty' argument with 'they found drug related material on his laptop and he admits he uses so he had to have been involved in its manufacture' and boy oh boy did the old man hate me sticking up for the guy (and im anti drug), and the same jury had a large officious woman who was the 'Ive got things to do lets just all vote guilty so we can go home' and boy she was unhappy when we didnt, her wages was more important than some guy who was more than likely innocent going to jail for 4+ years... and this jury was for a case that only lasted 2 days. My first jury was on a fraud case that lasted 4 and a half weeks... 6 days is nothing lol. That jury ended on a hung jury after alot of bad and ill will and loud voices due to a single juror changing their vote at the literal last minute on a 'feeling'. Jury service is the ultimate civic duty any person can do... and should always be treated as such. The worst jurors you could ever have are the ones like the baseball guy, who will simply change their vote for convenience, the ultimate insult to the role.

[@Melancthon7332]

Even though it's our legal obligation, it's also our duty - so in that spirit, and in taking that duty seriously: thank you for your service.

[@MrKINSM]

The world hasn't changed in 70 years...this could easily take place today. Prejudice directly reflects opinions.

[@Chad.Live.]

Bringing up baby, 1938. A great comedy with Katherine Hepburn and Cary Grant.

[@jnagarya519]

Katherine Hepburn is irritating. Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn in "Charade" -- as good as the best Hitchcock without it being Hitchcock.

[@BsaGoatRider]

Harvey with Jimmy Stewart!!!!!

[@jnagarya519]

Anything with William Powell -- The "Thin Man" series, "My Man Godfrey," "Mister Roberts". James Cagney, "Yankee Doodle Dandy".

[@Blue-qr7qe]

TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (1963) starring Gregor Peck is my favorite b&w film.

[@ponfed]

It's a goddamn powerhouse of a cast.. The people we hate, the people we agree with.. powerful performances across the board.. George C Scott is a machine...