12 Min. of Gadriel Mistrusting Titus - Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 2

[@irvandisuryana6386]

Actually I kinda pissed off at first with how Titus really didn’t share any info with his squad. But then when I tried to think about it more, Titus really lost the faith in the astartes brotherhood after getting backstabbed by Leandros and losing his deathwatch teammates (which probably better teammates than Leandros)

[@justsomepotato6160]

@@irvandisuryana6386 more like falsely accused of heresy and corruption after literally saving an entire world. i would likely support his distrust among his teammates.

[@rebel1717]

Also, 100 years of inquisitorial will make anybody jaded.

[@iloveplayingpr]

Not to mention he was tortured in-between being in Stasis.

[@shadowrobot7708]

I really hope we get some (prequel?) with Titus and them during his time in the deathwatch.

[@Gibblets411]

@@shadowrobot7708 That's what we need: A DLC campaign focused on Titus' Deathwatch experience.

[@bloodmor49]

So good chemistry between squad members. From suspicious to truly brotherhood and trust. First time I didn't like Gadriel, cause he was like another Leandros, but after Avarax event dialogue / apologue between him and Titus was so good and logic. Characters development is really well made in this game, much better then most of Hollywood movies nowadays.

[@riveteye93]

It was a very obvious bait and switch

[@Mn14757]

Honestly, Gadriel suspicions of Titus kind of made sense for me. Imagine have to suddenly following orders from someone who I know nothing about yet they refuse to tell you anything and suspiciously know everything about Chaos and the thing they’re fighting against

[@ariefrachman7545]

​@@Mn14757 not also forget more than 200 years without any data and record, except for the record that he ever become a captain for a company. Titus also never opened about his past. So, yeah.. Some levels of distrust will be coming.

[@RexRecon]

Those are some really awkward elevator conversations.

[@AlexSaysHi2013]

"...but I am looking forward to it" and that's why we like you buddy

[@SINFGC420]

Gadriel admitting he was wrong shows strength

[@bedlams9594]

I understand Gadriel's mistrust

[@therebelfrogy9287]

Same. I wouldn't like being keep in the dark

[@zoharborage6609]

Pretty Pointless to doubt the guy he has been leading well. Doubt isn't a reason to suspect heresy. + Getting lost in the sauce. Sticking your hands in everyone's business and expecting an answer is pretty big headed.

[@occasional_doomer]

@@zoharborage6609No, a basic responsibility of a good military leader is keeping his men informed. Or at the very least explaining why what seems like relevant info can’t be discussed. That is a flaw that Titus has, and he even acknowledges this towards the end of the game

[@justsomepotato6160]

​@@zoharborage6609 tbf hearing your commanding officer who was supposed to dead, erased his chapter markings from his deadwatch service, and kept saying 'not your business' will cause suspicious. still better than leandros though.

[@luxeternity]

@bedlams9594 at least he apologise. Leandros not even said sorry and double down on his scrutiny

[@unitedfederation262]

The space book says this is bad 10:48

[@Handepsilon]

Well, I CAN'T READ

[@JR-rv3xr]

Neither can I as I'm dyslexic Rougul Dawn!

[@stefciok]

​@@HandepsilonTrue black templar moment.

[@Akabeche]

10:51 lmao the PTSD on Titus' face it's priceless

[@danielhaire6677]

No PLSD - Post Leandros Stress Disorder

[@LeGuardImperialis]

Space book says this bad, but your plan is kinda rad. -Gadriel

[@RealAugustusAutumn]

Gadriel almost caught hands at 10:50

[@Votlon]

PTSD police 👮‍♀️

[@justsomepotato6160]

Gadriel is already far better than leandros

[@kazekage6903]

Fr. Guilliman himself doesn’t even stick to his dated codex 100% of the time. If you’re own F******* Primarch don’t care… why should anyone else be chained to those rules?!? F*** Leandros

[@Sivrn-Val]

I find it funny how Gadriel's mistrust started because Titus was an OG Space Marine that got the Primaris procedure, and it became him becoming a Leandros 2.0 after he snooped. But hey, at least he apologised and admitted he jumped the gun

[@bignerd5529]

To be fair, Titus was sus af and he refused to talk about his past actions, Gadriel had every right to be skeptical of Titus. It's dope that they made up in the end, though

[@leekent3587]

I just realised that Cadian Female Major said 8th Cadian Regiment, i see it has been reformed once again after cadias destruction :D Cadia Stands!.

[@randomdude8202]

And its obviously mixed unit of men and women. Comissar Cain says there are rare, but I think Cadian situation is dire so it makes sense.

[@rama-n-i]

What’s weird is Titus was like really wise and more a compendium for Leandros in the first game. Now he’s harden and unsure at first, but progress through game he’s like a completely different marine. Also how does the warp arise in individuals? Is like the force or what?

[@Amatsaru29]

Belief, and strong enough belief is power. The warp reflects peoples beliefs/wants and actions. Sometimes warp manifestions are subtle, at times its not depending on context (i.e you're lucky to find $5 on the sidewalk to able to withstand demonic corruption temporarily).

[@LunaPPK]

its not weird at all leandros falsely accused of heresy and corruption after literally saving an entire world and faced 100 years of inquisitorial tortured from a mad man. He openly admitted he lost faith in brotherhood and prob the UM's hence why he fought as a black shield

[@paulrietveld9837]

He came around in the end.

[@_lime.]

I love Gadriel's character. He was on the path to becoming another Leandros but he corrected himself.

[@Atlashon]

I can’t believe this was 10 hours. I checked my steam and it really was. Man, I want more.

[@EIVWPO]

game has been out for two days, yall already made a diss track

[@ghostfacegrillah7891]

Diss track? What’s it called?

[@KYPC17]

We need Space Marine 3 a lot sooner this next time.

[@tt-qr4yf]

I really love this game

[@Rpgotoko]

Tbf don't forget that under Titus Command all the others members of the squad died so Gadriel got reason to be pissed off

[@qasim5760]

You missed the most important scene where Gadriel tries to kill Titus.

[@G_Signer]

Galadriel :P

[@fartz3808]

eks dee

[@G_Signer]

btw is it not a violation of the codex astartes that he assigned the other 3 marines without that sergeant as their commander? they were 6 total including lieutenant titus and sergeant so i think the codex would dictate command of each 3 man team goes to these 2 guys, not some brother lyreo, so ok thats probably a major violation of the codex command structure

[@luxeternity]

Codex is a guideline not an end-all-be-all rule. Even Guiliman encourage his sons to think out side the box and not follow the codex all the time.

[@gamechanger8908]

Lieutenants outrank Sergeants, since they are the right hand of the Captains and they command demi companies, essentially 50 Space Marines. Acheran probably only gave Titus only a few Space Marines a squad and not a demi company for now(aside from not affording the risk several casualties), since he probably doesn't want mistrust and insubordination under his men, and we see how Titus has discourse with his two battle brothers here. Doubt, and and possibility for treachery under a space marine commander is bad especially the larger the force. We see how the damage can be massive, like Huron Blackheart with the Badab war, or Sar Luther and turning half the Dark Angels Legion against each other.

[@mathiasbartl903]

3 guys isn't a squad.

[@torshec8634]

K-Pop Marine over Leandros.

[@Meowdy-do]

Beats me why people compare Chadriel with Leandros. Chadriel didn't lash out when he suddenly got demoted. He didn't lash out, the way Chairon did when their brothers died, and Titus brushed it off like nothing of value was lost. He followed Titus' orders despite all his suspicions. He could've shot Titus dead, immediately when the psyker got possessed, and accused him of heresy, but hesitated. He chose to ask questions first which Titus himself admitted that he failed to answer instead of immediately jumping to conclusions. I will no longer stand for these half-assed compliments and slander.

[@JBrander]

12 mins of Gadriel being a leandros

[@GeekHub7]

My suspicion is that Gadriel got kicked out of the White Scars' forge world because he is not joyful enough and he ended up as an Ultramarine. 😅

[@secondarytrollaccount666]

Probably because he would not partake in Mongolian throat singing with his brothers

[@Drownedinblood]

I'm now wondering if Gadriel is the same Asian space marine from Warhammer 40,000: Lost Crusade trailer.

[@quangnguyentrung647]

Gadriel is blond, that Asian marine hair is black and he's a Lieutenant with the laurel of victory while Gadriel is only a sergeant.

[@Drownedinblood]

@@quangnguyentrung647 Hair dye, but yea the laurels def separates em. Idk seems like GW tries for some continuity now like that Ultramarine Sergeant in pariah nexus.

[@frankyfirman]

Gadriel doesn't look Asian to me. More like Russian

[@pole8740]

@@Drownedinblood didnt know astartes care about their appearance enough to dye their hair

[@Drownedinblood]

@@pole8740 I mean they care about all the glitz and glam on their armor don't they?

[@secondarytrollaccount666]

Atleast Gadriel didnt snitch him out to the inquisition like leandros. He tried to handle the beef personally when the astropath was throwing accusations. Yeah he fell to suspicion but he atleast gave titus a chance to prove himself.

[@lost4356]

because gadriel is more open-minded unlike leandros who is text book person following it word by word to literary. also unlike sidonus who is more passive, chairon is have is more active to speak and act his mind.

[@secondarytrollaccount666]

@@lost4356 except leandros bypassed the codex by going to the inquisition to 🐀 on Titus instead of the ultramarine chaplains.

[@Darklarik3]

100% siding with Gadriel. Titus was being an absolute dick.

[@cyborggunslinger4230]

Well being thrown under the bus by leandros to an inquisitor who was know to hate space marines, kept in captivity for being falsely accused of heresy and also being tortured by said inquisitor for over 100 years will do that to a man.

[@benragnarsson7228]

​@@cyborggunslinger4230and that same inquisitor fell to Chaos himself. Remember Chaos is dangerous. Titus being like a rebel, surviving warp energy, all reason to suspect of corruption. Even Chaos lord was intrested in Titus ability

[@reefarolla32]

If I was the Captain... I would be very upset with the SGT. He keeps failing to follow orders! He is a space marine... he should respect his CO's orders, he should also trust his fellow marines with no other reason not to. Especially his NCO, again chain of command and taking orders. of all things I kind of think they dropped the ball on this purely to keep the mistrust on Titus. When he is in fact a perfect example of what a space marine should be. He is also a very knowledgeable Lt and imparts much knowledge onto his team all the way through the campaign. The stuff he hides... he was ordered to hide by his CO.

[@zeryuouros4411]

When some random guy with 0 background got introduced to your life is suddenly a commander of your squad and has done many questionable actions throughout the operation while never answering to their own subordinate questions, I'll be hella sus of that guy. It doesn't help that when the misunderstanding started to arise, Titus never once tried to explain himself and got even more irritated towards his own squad. It's doom to end with at least one or two people sus of him.

[@reefarolla32]

@zeryuouros4411 he doesn't do anything suspicious. He is told not to elaborate on his past. He performs admirably, helping his brothers understand the enemy better. He's also marked by Calgar, if that doesn't warrant a little bit of respect then who knows what does lol

[@zeryuouros4411]

@@reefarolla32 he has done a suspicious stuff during the campaign lol. The classic one is when he is searching for the Aurora project on the monitor. And sure, he's told to hide his past but he could have done better explaining himself instead of Lashing out on his own squad and blaming them for everything when they don't even know what they're doing.

[@mathiasbartl903]

Normally these guys would know each other very well.

[@zeryuouros4411]

@@reefarolla32 like the all the admirable things he's done only have done after the jigs is out. Even Titus himself admitted that he was being an absolute dick towards his own squad mates from the get-go and he should have done better as a captain. That he should have tried to calm the situation instead of Lashing out.

[@starphish2808]

honestly if there were dialogue wheel options, Gadriel would be dead.

[@pole8740]

thank god it didnt