12 Unbelievable Italian Motorcycles

[@williamcovey4162]

Best Channel Ever! The passion of the Italian manufacturers saturates this superb video! Many thanks for making it! Ride Free Everyone!

[@barebonesmc]

and you brother, cheers for the support, and always enjoy the ride 🙂

[@MalcolmStaines]

Brilliant video, as a Guzzi 1200 sport owner it's great to see the style of the Italian bikes, all of them automotive works of art.

[@barebonesmc]

cheers for watching mate, have a good day :-)

[@apacherider7110]

You can't beat an Italian motorcycle, so much passion in their design. When I had my Aprilia in 2001 I also had an Italian girlfriend, so great riding all round 😊. Very good vids.👍

[@barebonesmc]

🤣🤣🤣

[@timhicks2154]

My 4 Guzzis would approve of this video! And my Ducati.

[@barebonesmc]

enjoy them mate 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂

[@mikethompson9102]

Great little video & as a Laverda Zane 750S owner, I couldn't agree with you more about it being one of the best handling bikes around. The Niko Bakker frame is the 'dogs B's. Such a shame a new motor wasn't designed at the time. Looking forward to the next chapter.

[@barebonesmc]

Ayup mate 🙂 hows life after the grand tour? have you recovered yet? cheers for watching 🙂

[@mikethompson9102]

@BAREBONESMC took a few weeks to get back to normal after Antarctica, what a place. Planning the next trip for 2025, but lots of motorcycling before then 👍

[@barebonesmc]

@@mikethompson9102 cant wait to hear more mate 🙂 have a good day

[@paulred158]

Fantastic video . I have a few old Italian bikes in the shed and I love them all. Great content sir.

[@barebonesmc]

cheers for watching mate, have a good day :-) enjoy the ride

[@gntdriver2840]

Another stunning italian bike of the early 2000s was the Mondial Piega 1000 which was only produced in small numbers and used a Honda VTR engine

[@barebonesmc]

🙂 shhhh 🙂 that ones coming in something different lol 🙂 cheers for watching, Ride Free

[@dinomalta712]

LOVED my 750S Formula, Orange and Blue 1999 model, unfortunately had to sell her to start a new lifestyle in Malta, I can agree with you regarding the handling, nothing out handled it in the twisties, Cheers and thanks for the memories. DINO.

[@barebonesmc]

🙂 cheers for watching Dino, i still miss my Zane but the SF2 should be finished soon 🙂Ride Free

[@joelmcmorran8488]

I love that you mentioned Primus, They are from a small town very close to me. I used to go see them at the bar when I was a much younger man. Just found your channel and I am loving it! Been on two wheels for 40 years and have owned and ridden many different bikes. I love the diversity of bikes on here. Keep up the amazing work.

[@barebonesmc]

Small world :-) :-) Cheers for watching mate and welcome aboard, enjoy the ride

[@GFDawnPatrol]

I loved this video!! What a great review. Thank you for taking the time pulling this together.

[@barebonesmc]

thanks for watching mate, Ride Free

[@skydive1424]

Fantastic video! Owned a LeMans, Guzzi Daytona, and still a Falco and a new V7. 👍

[@barebonesmc]

🙂 cheers for watching mate, do love the Falco. Ride Free

[@ianbembridge5273]

as a lover of italian bikes i really enjoyed this video. more pleeese

[@barebonesmc]

Have you seen the other Italian Special here kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqesaJWYZbKfjpY Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

[@marcusgeorge1825]

Great video. Thank you. Having owned a 916 from new buy trading in my WM GSXR-750, when I was also racing two RGV-250’s in the Australian Production 250 series (that Troy and many other Australian World Champions came from) I must admit I wish I kept it based on current re-sale value however, it just wasn’t an easy bike to live with. Apart from the extreme heat it just didn’t handle anywhere near as the Japanese WSB equivalent base machines no matter what I did to the suspension changes so I sold it and then purchased the best road going, non purpose built bike to compete in the original Fireblade. A bike that was so far ahead of its time. That TL1000 engine was great, just the chassis and swing arm was so mismatched that it was scary to ride even at 60% through corners. I know I’ve gone off original topic however just thought I add my little piece of memories. Love this channel, keep up the great work. 👍😎🇦🇺

[@barebonesmc]

cheers for watching mate, sounds like you need a Navigator :-) best of both worlds :-) the TL1000 engine in a Tamburini chassis, they are a great bike, the only reason I sold mine was i do go off road a fair bit and it was just too much power, the 650 Vstrom is just easier off road :-) have a good day and enjoy the ride :-)

[@paulherbert1550]

Gilera saterno from around 1990.many would disagree but i think theyre stunning machines

[@barebonesmc]

that looks like a nice bike that has completely gone under my radar, dont think ive ever seen one

[@rohankilby4499]

Wow what an amazing list, Guzzi MG 01 if only they put it into general production it would be in my shed right now for sure. I agree on your thoughts on the Morini what a stunning expression of the V twin naked motor cycle. Looked to buy a Laverda 750 ended up with an F4 really wanted a two stroke, my MV not far off and I think it sounds a bit better too 🤣👍

[@barebonesmc]

being honest; sat on it the Laverda sounded like a washing machine full of nuts and bolts, but from behind the twin termignoni's sounded like Thunder, at full tilt it was an unbelievable sound

[@captbarb6642]

Fantastic video loved all those bikes especially the bimotas , I still have a few Italians around sublime to ride and gorgeous to look at Bella bella❤

[@barebonesmc]

🙂 cheers for watching mate 🙂 Ride Free. contemplating doing a video of a new engine design i found that sounds interesting, you interested?

[@captbarb6642]

@@barebonesmc I love all bikes I would say go for it hope it's a vee configuration

[@barebonesmc]

@@captbarb6642 it isnt that far along yet but comes in slightly different configurations, basically its a non boxer opposed piston, but its new tech it would just be about the engines potential for use in bikes,

[@thevynillibrary]

I must congratulate you on the quality of your videos. It is of the best on KZbin. Although I personally do not prefer the ride style of superbikes anymore, getting a bit older, there are some very nice superbikes around, even Italian ones. Most off the bikes on this list I have unfortunately not seen here in South Africa. If I have to pic my top 10 motorcycles of all time to park in my dream garage , the Duke 916 will definitely have a spot in the top 3. Whenever you see the 916 or any of its siblings on the road you know that it does not matter what you ride the 916 will most probably end up ahead off you on top of the mountain pass. Thank you for the time and effort you put in these videos.

[@barebonesmc]

your support appreciated my friend. The 916 is very special :-)

[@timhicks2154]

My mate had a Benelli Tornado Tre. It was absolutely bonkers! It had an aftermarket silencer that used to spit flames on the over-run.

[@barebonesmc]

one of my all time favourites mate

[@ReferenceFidelityComponents]

A few points on the Milles. The homologation special was not the RSVR, it was the Mille SP. It had a higher revving shorter stroke Cosworth head, adjustable race frame and full ohlins, oz racing wheels, sp twin stacked racing pipes. Out of the crate it wasn’t tuned and needed race prep and tuning to get the power but was capable of over 135bhp at the rear wheel. The rsv standard bike was 118bhp rear wheel (128bhp crank) and the engine was identical in the rsvr so it put out the same 128bhp. It could make around 4bhp more with the factory Akra can and Rp58 piggyback chip. It was not a homologation special but a premium version of the standard bike using Ohlins suspension, Oz cast alloy wheels and some carbon body parts. Then there was the ltd edition Haga and Edwards reps. Haga rep was an rsvr with different decals, twin akras and a different chip. It was 132bhp. Edwards was very different. Black painted frame, 57mm throttle bodies, bigger ram air snorkles and larger airbox. Also had toughened titanium conrods, 4 spray injector nozzles, bigger valves and made 147bhp at the crank. It was basically a gen2 head on a gen 1 motor. Gearbox had taller first gear and closer ratio 3/4/5/6th. It and the sp are the rarest Milles, a good SP now fetching anything up to £50k and a mint edwards rep in standard trim fetching £10 to £12k with low miles. I had all bar the sp version. The most enjoyable on the road was the gen1 rsvr and that’s the best one to buy to enjoy.

[@barebonesmc]

if i need to know anything Mille in the future i know where to come lol i bow to your superior knowledge :-) have a great day mate and thanks for the comment

[@wilco1v]

Owned a Cagiva Gran Canyon 20 years ,the stering of the navigator was more lumpy ,the Cgc was detuned with 750 valve and cam setup ,and the navigator id not have the full potentional of the suzuki tl1000 engine ,butt both where Unique bike,s ,now there are only 82 Cgc in holland ,powerfull emotions in my hart are still there

[@barebonesmc]

glad it jogged some good memories mate. i had CBR wheels so smaller front, and Wilbers suspension on my Navigator. 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂

[@jimmiej3924]

The video game footage for the MGS 01 😂

[@barebonesmc]

i was stuck mate, i couldnt find any real footage anywhere and wanted to include it

[@duncanfraser7240]

Just love Italian Bikes in a class of their own IMHO, my first one was a Benelli 250cc 2c,1974 it was green and black, it had its problems but I loved it

[@barebonesmc]

glad you enjoyed it mate 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂

[@redepsilon5]

As a young man I owned a Moto Guzzi MkIII Le Mans. It was a rare factory white one and a beast. Nothing with wheels has ever come close to the performance and sheer grunt that bike had. I regret parting with it to this day.

[@barebonesmc]

there are bikes we all think like that about mate but thats life, we have the memories and something else will come 🙂 cheers for watching mate, Ride Free

[@mrsilbo6499]

Excellent series, I hope to see a MG Griso 1200 SE (my bike) in the third video. 😉

[@barebonesmc]

I should have put it in here, the footage would have been less contentious than the MGS 01 :-)🤣

[@williammuir638]

Great vid thank you 😊

[@barebonesmc]

🙂 cheers for watching mate, Ride Free

[@renejakobsen7444]

I own a 1st gen F4 and simply love it. Same love to look at it or drive it. Not many vehicles have that quality. Italian vehicles have many!

[@barebonesmc]

great bikes 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

[@owenbruce4120]

Nice selection of beasts with plenty of action, some leg stretching, your taste in music is on par. Primus n muscle bikes compliment each other so well....also great to see that LAVERDA decal top centre on the collage backdrop .in all...tasty 👌⏳✌

[@barebonesmc]

Cheers Owen, thanks for the feedback, im just a sucker for that Claypool Bass 🙂 he is a master 🙂 cheers for watching, ride free

[@owenbruce4120]

@@barebonesmc a conceptual master he is !! In fact there's nobody that can touch their work ☀

[@barebonesmc]

@@owenbruce4120 enjoy my friend 🙂

[@joelmcmorran8488]

Sailing the Sees of Cheese is my all time favorite album!

[@barebonesmc]

have to say much as it isnt my favourite music the Primus and the Chocolate Factory tour was one of the best shows i have seen in a long time. and one track,Tommy the Cat and just because it makes me laugh, Wynona's Big Brown .................. The Bass on Tommy the Cat is just awesome, and song itself always reminds me of Beefheart

[@barebonesmc]

just put seas of cheese on :-) easy to forget :-) not one of the albums ive listened to in a whie :-)

[@pauln6803]

Could never quite get into Primus. Preferred Larry's previous band, Possessed.

[@wolfdog7265]

I really like the Moto Morini Corsaro. What a brute. Four for sale in my country. ‘06 and ‘07’s with around 16K Km’s for around €4000. Pretty cheap for what you get. But I did read about some having trouble with some dodgy electrics. Weak electric connections, Voltage regulator/rectifier. But it’s a lot of bike, tech and design for that kind of money.

[@barebonesmc]

reg rec a common fault on many bikes, including the VFR and others from Japan. i have heard much more good about them than bad :-) cheers for watching mate, ride free

[@camerongiles-webb7807]

Fabulous video mate. Love what you are doing.

[@barebonesmc]

🙂 cheers Cameron, Ride Free

[@benmanning4340]

I love the look and sound of the aprilia sxv however they are said to have many issues so I ended up getting a gasgas 250 2 stroke motard instead!

[@barebonesmc]

high maintenance for sure, a bike tuned that highly always will be to a certain extent,🙂Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

[@presstodelete1165]

I have had a good many examples of half your list, all of which I agree whole hartedly with. Yet to try the others, although I still veer towards sportsbikes so I guess I am thinking of the most exotic bikes on the list.

[@barebonesmc]

I dont fold up onto the sportsbikes so well these days so ive been exploring the different other niches lol if its got 2 wheels ........... thanks for your support 🙂Cheers for adding your bit too mate. Ride Free 🙂

[@winksmt01]

I've got a MV agusta 800 brutale. Great looking bike handles really well and fast. Downside not very comfortable. But, let's face it's not a touring bike. Back in the 80s also had a Laverda Jota.

[@barebonesmc]

nice, Im finishing an SF2 at the minute and i do love the little Pegaso :-) The Brutale in the intro does sound lovely :-)

[@davidpalin1790]

My late friend had a fighting falco, with the body kit. Nicest looking bike I have seen 😅

[@barebonesmc]

condolences mate, they are a great looking bike

[@2008cguzzi]

GREAT video, just a little flaw: I can’t find The Moto Guzzi Centauro in the description….! Keep Up the good work!! ( And The Laverda 2 cilinder 750 is GREAT handling Bike, but What a disaster of an engine ..!!)

[@barebonesmc]

mate, im baffled, the Centauro is one of my favourite bikes and im damn sure i put it in one of the videos, but i cant find it anywhere right now. I was thinking it might have been in the Maverick bikes video but nope, if i have missed it, it will be in at some point, re the Laverda, i know the Zane engines get a lot of stick and there are issues, but mine was a series 3 crank 750, and to be fair, never missed a beat and never a trace of metal in the oil screen despite many miles thrashed around Cadwell park, i loved it, the only 4 stroke i ever rode that felt like i was riding a 2 stroke 🙂🙂Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

[@NetMillionaire]

Top notch video bro. Very informative thx had to subscribe great knowledge ❤

[@barebonesmc]

Welcome aboard mate, enjoy the ride and cheers for the support

[@sadwingsraging3044]

🥺I want them all! The styling is just💋🤌🏻 My cousin bought the second F4 that came to the states. A white one. Bought a factory white seat to replace the red one it came with. I think red.🤷‍♂️ Never seen it. He was even dumb enough to let me ride it.😗 **whistling** Like riding a nitromethane supercharged sewing machine. It is at the limit of the compactness I can make myself scrunch into with any thought to comfort whatsoever but that isn't the point of that bike now is it?😁 Great video and I look forward to the continuation of this series!😇👍🏻

[@barebonesmc]

I will get there in time 🙂 ive got a bit of a backlog, the riding keeps winning out lol

[@sadwingsraging3044]

@@barebonesmc Riding is channel business. Write it off on your taxes.😁👍🏻

[@barebonesmc]

@@sadwingsraging3044 indeed 🙂

[@upsidedowndog1256]

All beautiful bikes. I would have loved to even seen them in person. No such luck, got a Suzuki SV1000S instead. Not perfect but very good. Rebuilt my wife's VStrom 650 after her getting hit by a car. Damn near perfect bike naked. That engine just sings a cool song. Always eager and powers out from any rpm.

[@barebonesmc]

Nothing much wrong with an SV 1000 mate. I am intrigued what you did to the Vstrom :-)

[@upsidedowndog1256]

@@barebonesmc A lot. Most say I should not have done it. I liked the bones of the bike. Needed none of the ancilliarry stuff. Lots of plastic crap gone. Runs well, a little more wheelie happy now. Perfect bike now.

[@barebonesmc]

@@upsidedowndog1256 im always doing things people say i shouldnt lol the joys, i did joke about taking a hole saw to the chassis 🤣🤣🤣

[@timhicks2154]

Love it!

[@barebonesmc]

i thought you might mate 🙂

[@richardsalinas2033]

Grestvideoes keep upyourgreatwork,

[@barebonesmc]

glad you enjoyed it mate hope there were some surprises 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂

[@jezza117]

great video mate, well done..what is it about Italian bikes that stir the soul, never owned one and I feel I've missed out hugely..

[@barebonesmc]

They are an experience :-) i do feel like im not quite whole without one :-) and they dont have to be big n overly powerful/expensive. the little Pegaso is a great bike and cheap as chips at the minute, prices will rise over time too :-)

[@TimothyMuhlfeld]

That was great,how about, something from my past a CZ380 DANGEROUS RUTHLESS ANC DURT BIKE

[@barebonesmc]

🙂cheers for watching mate, i am sure they will come up at some point. just found out that apparently some of the old CZ 2 strokes ARE still being made, a guy in the UK is importing them. ill try and find out more :-) ride free 🙂

[@MrBenHaynes]

A video game for footage of the MGS-01. Unforgivable.

[@barebonesmc]

try finding some real footage even of a replica. i wanted to include it and didnt want to leave it at static footage, it is one occasion in numerous videos, but ill take it on board, cheers for watching anyway n hope you enjoyed the rest of it

[@theodavies8754]

Guzzi v11 sport is the one I would choose to own, I keep bikes for longer than most people.

[@barebonesmc]

me too mate :-) better the devil you know as they say :-)

[@rabcspaniel5679]

Great size! My Ducati 350 single was ultra light too. Had all dimensions in the Clymer Workshop manual. Long gone with my sebring spaggiarro rep but I think they can still be bought?

[@barebonesmc]

glad you enjoyed it mate 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂

[@Texmotodad]

As you know, Moto Morini is finally back in the States but only selling the China items. Sure wish they finish updating the big twin to meet E5 emissions and sell it worldwide! I'd a buy Milano tomorrow! (Red of course.)

[@barebonesmc]

there were rumours and spy shots of a 1200 X Cape with the Bialbero engine but heard nothing since sadly 🙂 cheers for watching mate, Ride Free

[@timhicks2154]

I like the Centauro.

[@barebonesmc]

seems we have similar taste mate :-)

[@timhicks2154]

@@barebonesmc - looks that way! 👍

[@barebonesmc]

Welcome aboard mate, enjoy the ride and cheers for the support

[@timhicks2154]

MGS-01. How I’d like one of those.

[@barebonesmc]

great bikes 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

[@prolebenz251]

Im looking for my first big bike at the moment and the navigator seems to be a pretty good option as im quite tall but love sporty riding and the sound of a v twin

[@barebonesmc]

they dont come along very often mate but they are a good bike, fuelling can be a bit rough at low revs but a power commander sorts that outc, good luck

[@prolebenz251]

@@barebonesmc thanks for the tip! Do you know what they did to get it doen to 100 hp from the original 125hp? I imsgine it has something to do with their method of detuning

[@barebonesmc]

@@prolebenz251 ecu, but swapping is a serious job, air box flow is another issue, standard exhaust another, mine was up to over 110 at the rear wheel and for me that was more than enough 🙂

[@prolebenz251]

@@barebonesmc 110 at the rear wheel should be pretty close 125 at the crank no? But good to know maybe theres some room to expand piwer wise once im confident with stock.

[@barebonesmc]

@@prolebenz251 i tried a TL1000 ECU but never got it to work well. the power commander and a Healtek ATRE helped a lot. there is some info on the Raptor Forums where others have tried it too. its not the easiest tuning to be clear. do join some of the forums, the Cagiva family are very helpful and will try and answer any questions you have

[@timhicks2154]

That Corsaro needs a nose-fairing. Looks breezy!

[@barebonesmc]

good point well put mate 🙂

[@adolfshitler]

I've owned a MV 990r, an Aprilia Rsvr, a Ducati 1098 and a Benelli 900 tre rs. The Benelli was crap, bought it new, got rid of it 6 months later after nothing but problems. The 1098 was always out to kill you and cook your balls. The MV was great untill it started going wrong at 8.5k but the Rsvr, what a bike, brilliant in every way, couldn't fault it!

[@barebonesmc]

i do love that engine, and all the Mille's are great but the R is something special :-)

[@benmanning4340]

"The Benelli was crap" My dad's owned one of these for ages and never had an issue with it! You must have just had a bad experience - just because you had problems with it doesn't mean they're all "crap"

[@adolfshitler]

@@benmanning4340 Didn't say they're all crap, said mine was, and it really was!

[@timhicks2154]

The TL 1000 motor was crying out for a top-notch frame.

[@barebonesmc]

loved my Navigator, a proper hooligan

[@pauln6803]

The TL-S was flawed to say the least. I'll hold my hand up and admit a 97 S really wasn't the ideal first big bike, but that thing was unpredictable - no warning before something bad happens. Had 4 aprilia RSVs on the bounce after (3 base Milles & 1 RSV-R) and stopped crashing. Other road users seemed to have it in for aprilia, but the bikes treated my dumb arse pretty well.

[@evanjohn503]

video game footage for MGS 01?

[@barebonesmc]

Ride 4

[@knudge6334]

I also have a thing for those Italian red heads. Had intimate relationships with 750 Brutale and duc 750gt. Still in a long term relationships with duc 750F1, duc 999r, vor503sm, and my dads old HD Sprint (Aermacchi). I think the wife is onto me!

[@barebonesmc]

glad you enjoyed it mate 🙂 Theres plenty more on the channel and the website, let me know what you think. hope youll climb aboard. We do have a great bunch as subscribers and i can thoroughly recomend reading some of the comments too, some funny and most informative too. Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂

[@timhicks2154]

Try the Moto Guzzi Griso 8-valve.

[@barebonesmc]

great bikes 🙂 i did, and loved the ride, but ive actually been contemplating the V85TT 🙂

[@timhicks2154]

What about the Moto Guzzi Griso?

[@barebonesmc]

it will find its place in time :-)

[@SideShowBob16]

What game is the action video of the Guzzi MGS01 from?

[@barebonesmc]

???

[@barebonesmc]

sorry thought id answered, Ride 4

[@timhicks2154]

Was that MGS-01 race footage from a video game?

[@barebonesmc]

yes, sorry, that was the cheat, i just couldnt find any good enough and didnt want to leave it out :-(

[@timhicks2154]

@@barebonesmc - there was something odd about the cornering and dangle angles!

[@barebonesmc]

🙂yep, im better at riding than computer games lol @@timhicks2154

[@golic7123]

8:44 - And it also comes with an infuriating, 'flip-up' sidestand that's guaranteed to make you look like a bumbling buffoon at least a couple of times during your ownership, as you try to move it and rest back again on its stand . . . . . only to realise its flipped up and you've no choice but to unceremoniously lay it on the ground - to the accompanying sound of laughter from onlookers !

[@barebonesmc]

lol, whatever happened to clutch cable trips on side stands? i cant even remember what bike it was on, the side stand flipped up as you pulled in the clutch, simples lol one of those things like the self cancelling indicators the LC had that just dissappeared for years, maybe we might get it back one day like the self cancelling indicators have started to return (yes i know the Harleys had em all along🙂) have a great day mate

[@michaeltelemachus5112]

I am a keen follower of your channel, but this time, in spite of me being an avid Italian bike fan/owner, I have had to stop watching this mid way through. The imagery is very poor and left me unsatisfied and with a headache.

[@barebonesmc]

sorry mate, the old footage of the Navigator could be better for sure, but where there any other bits in particular? ive looked through quickly and nothing jumped out as bad. could it possibly be a connection speed issue? Not making excuses, looking for answers to make sure it doesnt happen again, but no one else has mentioned it so far, cheers for the support, and sorry this one didnt work as well for you

[@michaeltelemachus5112]

@@barebonesmc I gave up after 8 mins. The 4 in one at 1.20 didn't work. I mean, what was that for? After the first part, the Tesi video imparted nothing; I understand why you posted the front wheel, but for so long? And the 360deg and subsequent Tesi section showed little. Next came the Cagiva; Over exposed, and at times unstable, video of a bike (could have been anything) chasing its shadow down the road with a couple of poor stills thrown in. Aprilia. A gentle ride along a pleasant country lane to bring back memories for the rider, with a very poor single still to show the actual bike. I learned little from them and enjoyed the same. Then I gave up in despair.

[@barebonesmc]

@@michaeltelemachus5112 fair enough, to be fair, it was done a while ago, and it has been a steep learning curve, i had never even edited a video before january this year, The Navigator and Gran Canyon footage was filmed a while back on an old go pro, but the Pegaso footage wasnt, I thought it gave people a view of the sort of lanes i often ride and a look into the area i ride most. sorry it didnt work for you, the split screen bit was a bit of an experiment, and without trying new ideas i never learn, cheers for taking the time to let me know exactly what and i will take it onboard. Good Tesi footage I could use was very thin on the ground too. as i guess it always would be with such a niche bike. I do my best, thats all i can ever do, thanks again