13 "New" Warbands Revealed | Full Review with Timestamps | Warhammer Underworlds Embergard

[@mickeybells3390]

There is so much to digest here but thanks for putting it all together with thoughts. helped me get through them all and focus in having started with the grand alliance ones.

[@criticalfocuschannel]

No worries, its a pretty decent way for myself to digest them.

[@kraziel]

There are so many errors in these warscrolls.. Hrothgorn doesn't even have grapple and does 1 damage. Skittershanks minions have their weapons switched. And the generic grand alliance are the laziest thing I've seen they do to this game. I have 26 warbands, and NONE of them got warscrolls, all I can use are the generic grand alliance ones? That is boring beyond belief. Most of my warbands are getting relaunched on those 4 grand alliance boxes, however, and my last hope is that they receive faction-specific warscrolls, and they make it available online (because I fear they won't, since they're purposely selling a box with all those cards and sheets separately)

[@criticalfocuschannel]

@@kraziel i cant deny or confirm if they'll get specific warscrolls but have faith you're last hope shall not be in vain. Totally agree on the warscrolls for the legends. They are simply best ignored until they are rotated back in. Hence the zero intrest for me to talk about them.

[@glenndean6]

They left the minion runemarks off Skritch's warband.

[@criticalfocuschannel]

@@glenndean6 yep, I just read that was an error.

[@Tigerstyleification]

The warscroll talks about Skritch, but the fighter card just says Spiteclaw on it, not mention of him being called Skritch.

[@criticalfocuschannel]

@@Tigerstyleification on the flipside of the warscroll (didnt show them here) theres an image of each fighter with their full name. 'Skritch Spitwclaw'

[@Nerdality_Florian]

Some fun things to note: Brothers of the Bolt - Heaven's Charge allows you to pick an uninspired fighter to uninspire, making it a free ping. Also they once-per-game abilities trackers are badly copy-pasted, lol. Cyreni's Razers - Hammertide seems to hit anybody on the board, rules as written. Not even the rulebook clarifies how the line is supposed to look like, like, crossing through centers of hexes for example. Zarbag's Gitz - The "scurry" move from can trigger itself, so you have an endless move for your whole team, as long as you leapfrog! Absolutely broken. Zondara's Gravebreakers - Undying Love is a Surge, but doesn't specify when you can use it. Probably should've been a core ability?

[@markreynolds1436]

I'm going to guess that Undying Love will be a Power Step action. And it does occur that having a symbol for a Power Step Action would be useful, much like Core abilities have their own symbol.

[@steven.youngson]

Stab Ladz, Brethren and Briar Queen look great so far. Interesting that the Stalagsquig can now move and be pushed as well. It has 0 move but could potentially get an upgrade to give it +1. I've not got a board to try it with yet, but can Zarbag make it possible to move almost every fighter on the first movement of the turn? It has potential to move a lot anyway regardless.

[@criticalfocuschannel]

Well they have to be adjacent to a fighter moving at the start of a move rather than at the end so unless they are all in a single group then no. Unless im clearly missing something which is certainly possible. Edit: Although as worded you could make infinite moves with only 2 fighters as long as they make sure to start and end up adjacent. Start adjacent>fighter 1 moves and end ups adjacent, fighter 2 reacts with moving ending up adjacent and so on and so forth so this obviously needs to be errataed hard. It should definately have a clear restriction that any given fighter may only react move once per action step.

[@charleshill9546]

Now they welted our appetites -- not long until "There will also be a rules updates document released soon, which will contain the first rules updates and FAQs for the new edition". Would be nice if that means updated warscrolls and fighter cards rather than having to scribble all over them. First there's the world champs to stress test these.

[@criticalfocuschannel]

Lets hope for expedious faq's and erratas. It's much needed for sure!

[@markreynolds1436]

Have played with Zondara. Resurrection through Delve seems extremely strong, even trivial

[@criticalfocuschannel]

It is yeah.

[@henryrodriguez6260]

For Thrice-Fold, are you really going to put in a single sub-par upgrade into your deck to make use of this ability? It's not like we are getting False Gift upgrades that would make this a juicy option. All one is doing is lowering the benefit (and possibly opening up glory for the opponent to play other upgrades). Don't get me wrong, the ability is thematic and cool (theoretically). In the context of WU'24, it just isn't compelling.

[@markreynolds1436]

@henryrodriguez6260 well the previous one was things like a D3 sword, so they weren't exactly bad. This will be more of a case of something marginal, or often just to destroy Great Fortitude. Will have to see.

[@criticalfocuschannel]

I prob wouldnt no but not every upgrade in your arsenal will be awesome, and in rivals (this video isnt geared solely to nemesis players after all) youre def bound to have some crap taking up space.

[@maxb9767]

Thricefold has essentially been put in the garbage bin, its lost all its flavor and this attempt to preserve some of the coolest cards in underworlds that were the false gifts is frankly pathetic. Did the designers skim the old rules and saw "give upgrade to enemy" and not realize that you need upgrades you **want** to give to enemies. Now its just a fancy way to brick an enemy upgrade instead of the most unique control tool the game had ever seen. I hope whoever had the idea to get rid of warband decks finds another job before they can do even more damage at GW.

[@markreynolds1436]

@maxb9767 I don't think it's as bad as all that. I will miss the effort I put into deckbuilding (was proud of my Sepulchural Guard decks for example), but so far I've enjoyed the new system, as have the other players in my group.

[@criticalfocuschannel]

@@markreynolds1436 this. The game may look bland etc at first glance but certainly dont feel it while playing.

[@jesseventura9371]

5:58 fuck right off with that joke mate lmao

[@criticalfocuschannel]

Haha, glad someone picked that up😂

[@jesseventura9371]

@criticalfocuschannel I did my best to notice when the call came down the line, man.

[@earthenavenger]

Great Video!!! Can’t wait for the new Saurus

[@criticalfocuschannel]

Thanks buddy! Oh yeah, beautiful warband!

[@markreynolds1436]

Sepulchural Guard are a different beast. Warden feels very vulnerable. And trying to score Supremacy is much harder as raised fighters can't contribute..

[@criticalfocuschannel]

Yeah I mean flex is certainly viable if not hold. 0 bounty really is a double edged sword..

[@henryrodriguez6260]

Raised fighters do not contribute to glory total of those hold objectives, but they still count toward control of the treasure token.

[@markreynolds1436]

@henryrodriguez6260 yeah - it's just Supremacy at the moment. But it turns something that was trivial into something you have to really think about

[@henryrodriguez6260]

The Briar Queen took a huge hit in survivability. Every other leader went up one health, but she went down one. Thus, she is comparatively down 2 health.

[@criticalfocuschannel]

She did yes. Far from every leader has gone up in wounds though.

[@criticalfocuschannel]

Sorry, health.

[@thesophistichimp7425]

You reference warbands being branded as strike/flex etc. How can you tell what is what? I don’t see anything branding the warbands as any one play style. Is this just something you’re coming up with based off the cards?

[@criticalfocuschannel]

@@thesophistichimp7425 nope that is GWs own branding so not my invention =)

[@thesophistichimp7425]

@criticalfocuschannel whereabouts is that info? Just as I don’t see it on the cards at all. Your videos have been very helpful so far for figuring out what I want to do with the new edition this is the only thing I can’t find Dx

[@criticalfocuschannel]

@thesophistichimp7425 no worries! Its in the warcom articles. This specific one is here: www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/zyxsgv6r/warhammer-underworlds-download-core-rules-organised-play-updates-and-digital-fighter-and-warband-warscrolls-now/

[@thesophistichimp7425]

@@criticalfocuschannel awesome thank you so much!

[@criticalfocuschannel]

@@thesophistichimp7425 no prob! Happy to help.

[@DarthOtakuable]

I have mixed feelings about this update. On the one hand, I think many of the warbands that got their own warscroll are actually looking really good. Discord and -I can't believe I'm saying this- *Zondara's* look both really thematic and very strong. On the other hand the fact that the warbands have been launched with several big, obvious errors that the community caught right away but somehow made it past the developers leaves a bad taste in my mouth, like they were rushing or just didn't care. Also, the casual dumpstering of the "Legends" warbands is lame. Like, GW, would it really have been *that* hard to make warscrolls for them all? Hopefully, every old warband will get a chance to rotate in for its moment in the sun in the future.

[@kingxerocole4616]

My warbands got gutted. I think I'll be passing on this edition, unfortunately.

[@criticalfocuschannel]

What ones are your favorites if I may ask?

[@kingxerocole4616]

@@criticalfocuschannel The Death ones

[@criticalfocuschannel]

@@kingxerocole4616 so are any of them perhaps in the shortly upcoming Grand Alliance Death box? Headsmens, Crimson court, Kainans or Grymwatch?

[@AthenaKipen]

I hate the zondara rework, It feels like the correct play is to get two upgrades on zondara, suicide her in and then clean up with furlain while using unearth as a card draw engine.

[@markreynolds1436]

@AthenaKipen The game I played had the Zombies keeping each other alive and Ferlain killing 3/5 of my warband. Zondara got involved but whiffed.

[@eggiwegs]

Honestly the rotation system is an exciting idea imo. I mean the prospect of getting some of those warbands out in the pasture with a new warscroll will keep them alive and offer some kind of variety. Once a year? I would be just fine with that. Also if they do rotate in and those who rotate out will have a more personalized warscroll and not have to rely on just using the vanilla grand alliance warscroll. For active but non competitive players who’s in and who’s out isn’t going to matter especially if given that personalized warscroll

[@criticalfocuschannel]

Definately a solid point there with rotating out while keeping the flavorful scroll.

[@notsaved]

sounds good. they should put all cards and warscrolls in the core box then.