(1371) Whipped: Anker by Darrel & His Wife

Darrel & his wife send in this anker challenge lock and it kept me fully frustrated for over 30 minutes before I finally declared a whipped by video. I was REALLY surprised by what I found inside this lock and STILL cannot understand how it was able to resist every trick that I threw at it. NO feedback whatsoever leads me to think the tolerances on Anker locks are super tight and the cylinders are almost perfectly aligned.
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[@eak125]

Jinxed yourself by saying you were going to "whip" it open...

[@bosnianbill]

Yeah, my mouth was bigger than my abilities.... story of my life... 😀

[@scotts918]

When I saw that key I thought someone had split the pins in half, and the right side pins had to be picked to a different level than the left side pins, for each individual pin! Now that'd be a lock to try and get into!

[@TheChipmunk2008]

Wow, another viewer 'local' to me (devon's about 1.5 hrs away at 3am, or 8 hrs in rush hour, locals will understand)

[@AThreeDogNight]

That is one key design I've never seen, two keys put together, WOW WEE. I'm still scratching my head over how all of that even works & just how it could be picked. Thanks Bill for another great video.

[@dbillionaer]

its just a regular key its not a special key at all.............. those are natural flats from where the key was milled when it was made its the over hang of the milling of the key that makes it look weird such radical warding in the lock makes radical milling on the key and this is what that looks like some very paracentric keyways look like this when cut to certain depthss

[@JillianLatorreTS]

Probably what stumped him was the tolerences of the lock itself.

[@WilliamMancel]

It's nice to see you put up a whipped by on a challenge lock with commercials security pins, but wicked warding. Bump keys are cool, especially Best keys. Great video. 👍

[@kman1759]

Never heard of that brand of lock. It almost seems like the warding was what made that lock so difficult, which is something kind of unusual to see in a challenge lock

[@emfloyd473]

Thanks for another great interesting video. It’s the first time I ever saw a key like that. It’s also interesting that it is so difficult to pick, maybe more locks should be made like this one.

[@FullMetalAnus]

Ayyy a locksmith with my postcode!

[@freeedr]

You know who to use then! Be sure to mention Bill if you need any service from them

[@CornishMiner]

Close to me too!

[@Daedalus_UK]

yep

[@Dan241091]

Same lol only about 20mile away

[@Thermalions]

I think I'll stick with my local. I hate to think what a 10,130 mile callout fee would cost.

[@PaulSteMarie]

Chuckle. He even made a perfectly nice slot for a tensioner right on the front of the core that doesn't interfere with the keyway at all.

[@boognishz]

I've got some Anker locks. I did start modifying one to send to you as a challenge lock. Maybe I should finish it. The warding on these locks makes picking pretty challenging.

[@bradw0535]

Nice work Mr. And Mrs. Darrel! What a wicked keyway! Tough break Bill, but thanks all the same for the video!

[@derekdaggy3704]

That was a great setup. Looks like a great set up. I was getting flustered just watching.

[@dbillionaer]

he didnt grind the key down those are natural flats from where the key was milled its the over hang of the milling of the key that makes it look weird such radical warding in the lock makes radical milling on the key and this is what that looks like some very paracentric keyways look like this when cut to certain depths looks weird because of the zigzag of the warding so say you leave the depth at zero(blank) the top of the key is to the right at that height / cut it to a 3 depth now look at the key profile and the top of the key is to the left \ cut it in between at a 2 and you get those weird overhangs ] and deeper the other overhang [ so it will look like the key is switching sides as the deeper you go and you will get some weird spots where its suuuuuuper wide

[@georgelangrick7384]

I understand your explanation of the key profile giving that appearance when cut to depths that intersect with the aggressive warding in the key design but there was more going on here - you could see that the key was twice the normal thickness and appeared that it was two joined together, that may not be the case but there was definitely more to the story...

[@approachableactive]

Woah! Im Literally 2 minutes down the road from Darrells place haha

[@washingtonstatepicker3460]

You fought valiantly my friend! Great try on an awesome lock!

[@chrisgr1999]

Excellent video again !! I also believe as other people already noticed that super fine tolerances made biding almost impossible to feel and tensioning to be ineffective !!!!

[@MrV1NC3N7V3G4]

I've noticed your latest trend is to try to rake a false set at the beginning and then in the middle as well if you think you've oversee pins. Do you think attempting to get a head start this way is detracting from your normal method of finesse spp? When I first researched lockpicking, the description said locks are picked due to the loose tolerances of the holes and pins that allows pins to bind in a certain order and be picked. I guess that proves that exact tolerances can make a highly pick resistant lock.

[@stratsteveo106]

The tolerance is everything. That is one of the factors that dictates the tension. Kwikset or defiants have low tolerance and assa abloy or keymark or even corbin russwin have tight tolerances. When im working i always rake first, then use a half diamond to get the remaining pins. When I'm picking for fun and i kno there is security pins ill use my hook and single pin pick

[@bosnianbill]

I agree with Stella the Locksmith. I find that raking high tolerance locks sometimes gets me one of two pins set - usually standard pins - and I can get on with SPPing the remaining security pins. Raking first is very common in competitions as it gets the "junk" pins out of the way and often gets you a false set, which is exactly what you want.

[@MrV1NC3N7V3G4]

@@bosnianbill Oh, I completely understand the reasoning since you put yourself on a timer for the challenge locks, and I agree that it can potentially start you with a picked pin or two, but I just think you're good enough to SPP most locks without raking a false set. You've taught me a lot (mostly theory) but did inspire me to pick up a Sparrows pick set along with the Tuxedo set in .15 quite a while back. I guess I see you as a teacher and cramming in a rake and going crazy, while maybe effective, seems more like what I did before I started watching your videos.

[@dbillionaer]

there exists a certain progression when picking locks over time at first you're flopping your hand around trying to get anything to happen then you are raking with some degree of control eventually skill forms and you are more precise and feel raking is a little barbaric and move to SPP eventually you realize time is money and getting the first few set with a couple of good rake strokes and going in after with a hook usually will shorten your time and time in this life is the most expensive and cherished thing you have so eventually youll probably do it too

[@butre.]

wait til you get an anker 3800. imagine a dom and a evva had a baby that they fed steroids and gunpowder

[@DonzLockz]

I don't know Anker and that key is just weird. Either way it beat you fairly.✌😎

[@two_tier_gary_rumain]

Yep, a very odd key.

[@franklinshooter3050]

I'm tempted to send in my 3 pin Kwikset and get one of those Paclocks. 😜 Great lock though. Just shows what tight tolerance can do to even the best of pickers.

[@Adam1nToronto]

Why not tension from that slot above the keyway? Looks like a straight wiper would fit in there nicely.

[@mikevandebunt811]

I thought the same thing... Giant slot looked perfect for tensioning!

[@RoeLunatic4ever]

Stupid Siri! Lol Great lock, very nice tolerance...key make it a bit special. Nice gutting Bill

[@scottvarley3823]

The first lock I ever picked was on a cheap filing cabinet in my room when I was about sixteen, and I used a zip tie as the pick. I was also able to pull the lock off, and take it apart. Since then I have picked a lock using bobby pins, but I need to practice more because I cannot pick consistently. For example I was locked out of my house, and I could not pick my way in. We were lucky a window was unlocked.

[@tjsynkral]

Bill, you should try the US General padlock at Harbor Freight which sells for about $7. It is really quite nice for such a low price, it has 5 (kinda crappy rounded) spools, it's very solid and not shimmable. It's not a difficult pick but it's the best lock you'll get for that price. In LPL's recent wrench video it put up quite a fight. Also, I re-pinned mine with security pins I got from a commercial lock that was missing its key... and that really improved the pick resistance.

[@JohnLeePettimoreIII]

Ooooh! A lunch date? Better hope your cat doesn't find out, or its extra clawing for you! 😼 🔪

[@SaltyHermit]

Hey Bill, Have you reviewed any of the locks/locksport stuff on Wish.com? There are some okay deals on there at okay quality but they have some different things than I've found out in the world. Might be worth looking into for some review videos.

[@RevMikeBlack]

Impressive lock.

[@pawpatrolnews]

At the rate you're getting whipped, you'll run out of pac locks by the end of the week!

[@Chlorate299]

I have a couple of Anker cylinders in my box of locks, the warding is a pain in the arse.

[@robertbick986]

I have seen Anker locks as high security locks on residences in The Netherlands before. I don't know anything more about them.

[@InsaneFirebat]

I think the weird shapes on the key are just from the odd warding at the top of the keyway.

[@tmcmellon]

Whatever mic you are using now, it's doing the job.

[@jdshenanigans9265]

Supprised that one caught you out bill . But one of my local lock smiths caught you , on a sleepy day lol .

[@88gtman]

What tends to happen with you whipped locks? Do you send them back to the maker, add them to the naughty bucket to try again at a later time, send them to some other pickers like LPL and Chessguy?

[@bosnianbill]

They generally live in a queue until it is time for a challenge/whipped video. After I pick it (or fail to pick it), I gut it on camera then usually return it to the maker.

[@jeffreydheere4737]

Seeing that set of Best keys from the bumplab.com, what are those green rubber grommets used for? Some came in a repinning kit and the seller said they were 'just free extras' without an explanation.

[@LuckyStrike01]

They are used to castrate sheep normally. In the lock picking world though you roll a couple onto the end of a bump key to work like a spring so you don’t have to keep pulling the key out a little with each bump. It allows you to just keep striking it with a screwdriver or bump hammer while alternating tensioning and makes bumping much easier and faster with most locks.

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

I'd love to see more reviews on dimple lock pick sets. Also a video on where to find pick making supplies. I really like the videos like the one from a few weeks back about making micarta handles.

[@dbillionaer]

sparrows black flag kit was designed by the lockpicking lawyer also souber tools anything else is pretty much garbage

[@scarz1951]

You can get some stainless blanks for making picks from Peterson

[@madbstard1]

I wonder if that Anker is related to the Anker than makes powerbanks. The "A" logo on both look kinda similar.

[@64akon]

😲

[@shockingguy]

John Carr Love Anker batteries and chargers

[@4lifejeph]

Yea, Anker makes great batteries and cables.

[@madbstard1]

@@4lifejeph We know that but is it the same Anker?

[@4lifejeph]

@@madbstard1 no idea on that

[@freeedr]

Thanks for the awesome videos of awesome locks

[@GordonWlocksport]

Unlucky mate, that was a lovely lock. Maybe I should send you one and hopefully catch you on a bad day lol

[@grahamconquerghc2358]

Some of keys I have ,look like a double row but I think its a security system for the key

[@stephanc7192]

Thats a great lock

[@MerkDolf]

Bill nice attempt and I'm happy to see that you didn't get too distracted with removing the shim. Looks like maybe that lock wanted to be reversed picked. Darrel and Mrs. Darrel nice lock.

[@kevinclough2394]

Have you tried to pick a bilock lock? We use them at work for a customer and are like a twin key similar to this one. They are made in Australia. Would be interested to see if you can pick one open.

[@dbillionaer]

this is not a twin key or twin lock at all its just a regular key its not a special key at all.............. those are natural flats from where the key was milled when it was made its the over hang of the milling of the key that makes it look weird such radical warding in the lock makes radical milling on the key and this is what that looks like some very paracentric keyways look like this when cut to certain depthss

[@kevinclough2394]

Dave MacGyver Its a cool key i say that. The bilock is only one key but has a key with two separated cuts. Each part has different cuts. Ive tried to pick one but no room to get any picks into them.

[@idkidk4334]

It's the warding that makes it look like a double key, my abus key is like that

[@dbillionaer]

yes!

[@wesdresen9994]

Really impressive lock. I enjoy the vids even if you don't get it open. This one is a bit puzzling.

[@robertoaguilar5958]

🤣🤣🤣 gotem! Better luck next time Bill.

[@grahamconquerghc2358]

Jeez bill u sure put tension on ur picks I was waiting on a ,pingggggh

[@TedCornish]

Hurrah for Devon and my home county Cornwall ☺☺

[@johnhoward7298]

Would make one HELL of a padlock core

[@Shadownter]

I can not seem to find an email to the locklab anywhere on your webpage. Does one not exist? Or is it well hidden?

[@chilledoutpaul]

Funny enough I have just put a Best lock for auction on eBay, The older ones are slowly becoming collectors items. Great videos, I watch each one.

[@jessdigs]

Post a link to your auction. I would like to check it out. Cheers

[@chilledoutpaul]

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[@Thermalions]

Wrong link there Lord Brace

[@two_tier_gary_rumain]

Now we can access his email. :) (Just kidding!)

[@chilledoutpaul]

ha ha I know about the link but it is the easiest or best one I could find 😕

[@MidwestRCAdventures]

Well after watching 100's of your and The lick pick lawyer, I have decided to give this a go. I just bought my first set of Sparrow picks. I picked up the classic kit, 1 half diamond im .015, 1 offset hybrid in .015, and the chaos wallet set. Now the find some good beginner test locks. Keep up the great work Bill, I really enjoy watching your videos.

[@drewfarmer7801]

Ultimate adversary lock. Get one. I just started picking also a little less than a month ago and I've learned a ton from that lock

[@keithsweet8840]

Oh Billy

[@FullSendPrecision]

Hey Bill... What's a proper lockset (knob and deadbolt) for a residential door? Something that can't be picked in 1 second.

[@stratsteveo106]

Well you dont have to use a knob, you could use a lever and put any kick cylinder you want in it, from schlage to yale or assa. But for knobs, stay away from the kwikset style keyways because they are super easy. Some schlage knobs have T pins in them which is pretty cool. You will get what you pay for. But security wise, a thief rarely picks locks. If you know how to pin locks you can build it to be a trap lock as well

[@dbillionaer]

medeco deadbolt with 24"-36" strike with screws going back in to the 2x4 structure behind no lock on door knob(passage knob) anything else is waste of time locking doorknobs will only lock your ass out one day dont do it

[@brocky69]

Do a review on squire stronghold keysafe. They are great quality

[@johnwasa7030]

Anker website: ankerslot.nl/ You'll have to brush up on your Dutch or German language though ☻

[@ajclark9939]

apparently it has very tight tolerances

[@4lifejeph]

Can someone help me understand this? I get the physics and techniques involved so why is lockpicking so hard? The pins are made to go up and down so why is it so hard to lift the pins up, get them to "catch" on the shear and unlock the lock?

[@bosnianbill]

TRY it, and answer your own question...😀

[@4lifejeph]

Thanks for the response. I'm not saying it's easy. I think it's like playing the guitar, it looks easy until you actually do it. I've tried to order picks online but when I get to the check out it says I have to prove that I work as a locksmith or Leo. Not sure where to get goid tools and practice locks.

[@scarz1951]

@@4lifejeph get ur picks from Peterson or sparrows here in the USofA. All u have to prove is that u can pay for them

[@iggymac3473]

nice lock

[@andy11894]

nice to see 1 sent in from close to home :) (pl25)

[@lockmania-locks]

Cool lock

[@brianblackwell2308]

How about some old door/padlocks that use skeleton key

[@KiKi-mc2ve]

Nice intro

[@altogumanator3000]

9:20 I lost it 😂

[@mayuravirus6134]

Never see that kind of key everyday

[@danielscrazygaming3616]

I could make you some tention wrenches for that if you want

[@giddy6196]

Doesn't explain the key at all??

[@smartin23964]

Why the wafer? That doesn't make any sense to me.

[@bmitch3020]

Letter mentioned it was for a housing authority. Guessing that means commercial or apartments where you would have a master key. It reduces the challenge, but also more of a real world scenario.

[@pileofstuff]

A single wafer wouldn't make for a very large number of unique change keys though, would it?

[@johnfrancisdoe1563]

pileofstuff A single wafer means this cylinder takes two keys: The resident key and the master key. Another apartment will have the same master key, different resident key, thus a different wafer and pin in that position. Shared door would leave that position unpinned to accept all these keys.

[@Daddypants11]

Starting picking auto locks.

[@DeezNuts-]

I see what ur doing

[@karlgriff8]

:)

[@Daddypants11]

Kinky video title Bill ;)

[@player-ko3vy]

Just make it simole review on cheep lock pick tools and try to find something good about theese

[@danieldavid4593]

That looks like a medeco.