14 Month Old Huge CGC Submission RETURNS!!

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Mint-Hunter Comics

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@chadfontaine2717
@chadfontaine2717 2 жыл бұрын
Oh... the looks on your face. You did a much better job of keeping your sh*t together than I would have been able to. Glad you saved this for a live reveal. The expressions say more than words. Sorry to see this man. Really feel for you.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
It was hard to keep the restraint lol
@seanschofield192
@seanschofield192 2 жыл бұрын
You did an amazing job staying composed! congrats on that!
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
It gotta rough towards the end
@adavis688
@adavis688 2 жыл бұрын
wow this is the most shocking CGC submission I've ever seen on KZbin. props for keeping your cool
@jtsun2011
@jtsun2011 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video. I’m pissed for you. I don’t know if many people would post themselves getting kicked in the gonads repeatedly by CGC like this and so hats off for showing how incredibly incompetent CGC has become. Grading is subjective and is one thing but those other errors are inexcusable. If Blackstone could just see how bad the Company they purchased has become you can only hope they would cut some heads and clean house in order to protect their investment before it totally falls apart. Anyway, hope your karma turns around in the next batch you get back.
@mapman73
@mapman73 2 жыл бұрын
As a newer (after a 30 year break) collector, and only beginning to think about getting some books graded. It's stories like these (and all the others I've seen on youtube) that make me truly question the point of sending anything to CGC, ever.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
I'd wait honestly - they've got some figuring out to do. they're in a bad transition mode rn.
@malus911
@malus911 2 жыл бұрын
Same boat (25 year hiatus, just jumped back in a year ago). Problem being, I read up on the same problems with CGC. So, I sent my first two submissions to CBCS and I'm now at 7 months and nada. Just a bad time to get into slabbing....
@new2vero2
@new2vero2 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Erik.. i totally know what your going thru as I took have gotten back into comics since late 80s and early 90s .
@blackgatecomics
@blackgatecomics 2 жыл бұрын
@@MintHunterComics when haven't they been in a "BAD" mode?
@KF247365
@KF247365 2 жыл бұрын
you never send books that have a serious drop off from 9.8 to 9.6.... just buy those on eBay already graded..... send in golden/ silver age
@PORECHKA
@PORECHKA 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a brutal unpacking. Really disappointed in CGC. Here’s my 2 cents: many of you guys still support them by sending those books to them. I recently tried some CBCS slabs and slab itself is really solid, book description is always actually with all details and on point and the price is not that big as blank no description modern CGCs. The only flaw is probably top logo with grade, but I bet you can live with that. Stop supporting the company you don’t like with your hard earned money - that’s how competition works. Thank you for blind unpacking.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct- I actually just prepped a package for CBCS!
@PORECHKA
@PORECHKA 2 жыл бұрын
@@MintHunterComics they are indeed decent. My bet is many will switch to CBCS for many reasons: either it’s time, money or look of the slab itself. Or the market itself will force them to, then we’ll probably see some changes to such giant as CGS. You are truly a brave and modern collector that doesn’t fear to discover new stuff - wow! Waiting for your CBCS slabs unpacking soon enough, I hope ;)
@MrRanman91
@MrRanman91 2 жыл бұрын
@@PORECHKA Kinda what happened with Diamond, where companies got sick of using them, Diamond didn't change, so companies went elsewhere. I'm at the point where I have no problem buying something already slabbed, but really don't want to get any of my books slabbed because of stuff like this (plus, as I've said before they screwed up the label on my X-Men #1 graded a 4.5 and put a Spider-man label on it, then tried to say it was my fault, as if I don't know the difference...after that just didn't trust them anymore).
@PC-iv5so
@PC-iv5so 2 жыл бұрын
I've been with CBCS for years...but he even called the 100 "not a 9.8 but most likely in the 9s" in the vid from 11 months ago...assuming it's the exact same trio of Xmen...guess it could be a different exaxt trio..heh. sounds like he was just getting more mad with the grades and started slighting the pressers to me... I actually don't like CGC.. but this collector's hope for 9.8s seems a bit unrealistic.. even for CGC who is much looser with grades.
@kinneywhat7019
@kinneywhat7019 2 жыл бұрын
For many of the reasons you stated, I sent my first submission to CBCS just yesterday. This video reaffirms my choice.
@richardsrj64
@richardsrj64 2 жыл бұрын
CGC has been weird with their grading. I cracked a 9.2 and had it pressed as the grader notes only showed pressable defects. That book came back at 8.5 with still pressable defects in the notes. I agree with you, the pressers are asleep or CGC graders are eating mushrooms.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Whaaaa? Man that sounds FRUSTRATING
@AntiheroKomics
@AntiheroKomics 2 жыл бұрын
I know you like to use CCS for your pressing, but they really don’t know what they’re doing and I’ve heard way more horror stories than positives from them. Definitely go through some of the incredible pressers that are out there!!!
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
i really gotta just go back to doing it myself or have 3d party pressers
@malus911
@malus911 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if sitting around in a warehouse for a year (temp/humidity) affects the books while they're waiting for processing. Also, everything is "subjective" when it comes to grading. Btw, your thumbnail is awesome....
@LoreLord-
@LoreLord- 2 жыл бұрын
I would imagin its in a humidity controlled room for such fragile things but who knows
@patientmental875
@patientmental875 2 жыл бұрын
Id like to know how they store books as well, is there any videos showing the process?
@hieinh
@hieinh 2 жыл бұрын
If that's the case, do faster submissions. But It is a waste of money to sub an $80 book for $80
@thecomicsamurai
@thecomicsamurai 2 жыл бұрын
Keep us posted on how CGC resolves your issues (billing mistakes, custom labels, etc.) I'll never give CGC any more business. Great video!!!
@fightthegoodfight52
@fightthegoodfight52 2 жыл бұрын
Dang bro, they must have watched your rant video before grading your books! That’s brutal. 🤨 On an up note, really cool thumbnail!
@billyrod1980
@billyrod1980 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped using CCS grading a long time ago as I takes forever to get your books back from them with the service. I’’m glad you got a least one 9.8 but man that was rough. I would call and complain about the 9.0 books that were slabbed, you will probably receive some credit for that stuff
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going back to pressing myself or 3d party pressing
@thomaslatimer571
@thomaslatimer571 2 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail was nice lol & great video very enjoyable
@TripleDAdventures
@TripleDAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. This video demonstrates why I haven't pulled the trigger in getting some books graded.
@spaceferretcollectibles
@spaceferretcollectibles 2 жыл бұрын
Maaaaaan, they did you dirty on some of those. Sorry dude, that sucks. I just had a similar thing happen with two books I just got back. Also, I literally laughed out loud when you said “awwwww” 😂 here’s to hoping the next submission is better!🍻
@terraincognita3749
@terraincognita3749 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard of Old Man Logan and Old Man Hawkeye, but Old Man Mint Hunter? Must be a new superhero!
@rgi_comics
@rgi_comics 2 жыл бұрын
Good job keeping your cool. It must have been extremely frustrating. Specifically if the pressing resulted in damages to a few issues.
@timothyray90
@timothyray90 2 жыл бұрын
This is making me lose faith in CGC. I sent my first order to them in November of last year and have since sent 3 more for the signature series. Hopefully I won't be disappointed. I also sent 2 to CBCS to compare turn around times and quality. If CBCS offered custom labels they may see more of my money.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually think this is the fault of CCS - not even so much CGC. CGC sometimes grades very harshly - it just comes with the territory, but most of these books clearly weren't pressed when I asked CCS to do them.
@FallenHeroEM1
@FallenHeroEM1 2 жыл бұрын
Signature Series books come back fairly quickly. That's why regular submissions take so long. 🤣 I sent two books into CBCS for signature verification back in November and took 9 days door to door. I have plenty of books at CGC right now. My motto is, just send em and forget about em.
@carlyraeepsom5525
@carlyraeepsom5525 2 жыл бұрын
Cbcs also grades harsher than CGC. Don’t expect higher grades if that’s your plan.
@carlyraeepsom5525
@carlyraeepsom5525 2 жыл бұрын
I would def stay clear of ccs. They are notorious for pressing issues or outright not pressing at all. Every person I’ve known has had a horror story
@evanwilliams3895
@evanwilliams3895 2 жыл бұрын
Signature series are automatically expedited. I did the three jokers one, and it was shipped back to me one month after that last signature was put on the books.
@e2comiccollector101
@e2comiccollector101 2 жыл бұрын
I was considering sending in my MS5 CGC 8.5 to get pressed and re-graded, but not anymore. The notes show that there are definitely some pressable defects, but I'm not going to take any chances at the moment.
@MrRanman91
@MrRanman91 2 жыл бұрын
yeah with a book like that, better off to wait and see if things settle down later. Plus right now, you have no idea who is pressing your books....I mean, they did announce they hired a bunch of new employees, but the question remains....did they train them properly??
@RexxCollects
@RexxCollects 2 жыл бұрын
Losing faith in CGC! Haven't started sending in yet, but I have heard a lot of the same. Awesome video!!!
@DONTSLEEEEP
@DONTSLEEEEP 2 жыл бұрын
Might need a new press service. I sent a 8.5 xmen 101 encapsulated for Claremont signing last year. Had cgc press it and they clipped the corner and it came back a 6.5!
@tc4033
@tc4033 2 жыл бұрын
Those were brutal grades. I had some books pressed by CCS, including a Swamp Thing #37 that they nearly popped the staple out. Last time for that, I do my own pressing now.
@amfxr27
@amfxr27 2 жыл бұрын
This was brutal. 😣 I’m sorry brotha. At least you kept your cool and you got some great books slabbed! That Green Lantern 9.8 felt good. Thanks for sharing with us. Hoping that next weeks books are nothing but 9.8s. 🤘🏼🥵
@justincomp5932
@justincomp5932 2 жыл бұрын
Wow... they screwed up big time, one of many reasons why I don't want to send my books to get graded. They shoot up and cost and they mess up people's books.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
CCS seems to have really slacked on my pressing here
@gears132
@gears132 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like it’s a good idea to either start pressing your own books or finding a 3rd party presser if their pressing services are jacking up your books. Real sorry you didn’t get the grades you where looking for on a lot of the books.
@orlandocarrillo5552
@orlandocarrillo5552 2 жыл бұрын
You can literally see your life slip through your fingers if you are a regular CGC submitter.
@consumetheliving
@consumetheliving 2 жыл бұрын
I just sent 10 books in, all Modern and pressed myself, to GCG with no prescreen. I am now wondering if I should have sent them into CBCS. If CGC is gate keeping the 9.8, I might as well pay the CBCS tax(lower value when sold) to get the higher grade??
@crzdcolombian
@crzdcolombian 2 жыл бұрын
Love the custom labels... wish we had some Spawn, Ninja Turtles and DC labels as well. My thing now with the time and how lazy CGC is getting. I have just been buying 9.0s-9.6 already graded. Selling raw copies for around the price of a 8.5-9.0. With the 3-6 month wait time + 30-40 for press/grade/shipping. Just cheaper to get it already graded.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jeremyprice9671
@jeremyprice9671 2 жыл бұрын
I feel u brother, I sent some new modern books from 2019 and I got 9. 4 on 3 out 5. They do seem to be hard and still taking way to long returns
@average_geeky_guy
@average_geeky_guy 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how to stayed calm through all that! I was mad just watching it! That sucks man :(. Getting worried about the books I'm waiting on... I had already considered trying CBCS out, maybe it's time I finally give them a shot. I was already frustrated with CGC's archaic billing practices that are inexcusably bad for any modern company.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Just moving forward: don't submit the same exact books together
@average_geeky_guy
@average_geeky_guy 2 жыл бұрын
@@MintHunterComics Sadly I have one submission in for 5 matrix comics that should range from maybe 9.0 to 9.6+. I want to say I submitted them maybe 1-2 weeks before seeing one of your older videos saying not to do that, LOL. Luckily 2 of them are for gifts to friends I saw the movie with when it came out back in 1999 so grade doesn't matter that much and I planned on keeping one for my collection. However, I planned on selling 2 of them to cover some of the cost of grading them and other stuff and this definitely has me worried :(.
@AwesomeKeyComics
@AwesomeKeyComics 2 жыл бұрын
I’m wondering how 1)all these new graders that were hired will get skilled up 2)all the new employees that are pressing at CCS will get skilled up and stop sinking your staples 3) since this submission is so old the quick press CCS had to have been done and many of the imperfections most likely came back
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
The crunching and new ticks around the staples are def a bummer
@kevinkowalski5030
@kevinkowalski5030 2 жыл бұрын
The guy grading the custom label books must have had his cat run away that day.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
This comment needs more likes lol
@Nokomisclub
@Nokomisclub 2 жыл бұрын
This video has my Blood pressure up! What the heck, CGC?!
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
More like what the heck CCS!
@ready_set_collect
@ready_set_collect Жыл бұрын
I know this video is almost a year old now, but man... if ever there was a video recapping some of the major issues of CGC during the pandemic years this was it!!!
@genxcomics2465
@genxcomics2465 2 жыл бұрын
Your reactions are priceless! CAN YOU SAY EGS? I almost thing i would trust them more to stick by Overstreet grading guidelines than the 'grading NOTELESS' CGC folks that are overworked and understaffed. I REFUSE to send any books to CGC after seeing this!
@highvoltagemark9870
@highvoltagemark9870 2 жыл бұрын
I had a similar unboxing. It was upsetting. Then I went to Instagram and saw a CGC post with Scott Campbell and the CGC employees displaying over 50 9.9 graded books. So mad 😡
@dc8201
@dc8201 2 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure they reserve 9.9 for themselves, family & friends. Even 9.8s can be hard to come by. I have a 6% 9.8 success rate.
@bswift12
@bswift12 2 жыл бұрын
I woulda been piiiiiiiiiiissed...you have much more patience than me.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
It was not eaasy
@mavlock
@mavlock 2 жыл бұрын
That was like a 14 month long gut punch, ouch. I seem to recall reading about pressings only being good for so long, perhaps some of your stuff was pressed but then just sat for grading. Course that doesn't explain the pre-screen screw up. I sent stuff off for the Perez signing and asked for pressing too, I may feel a bit paranoid right now. :)
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Pressings will fade over time, but some of these books flat out (pun intended) were NOT pressed. no graders notes doesn't help me but I can what they did and what they didn't. Some books in here actually fell victim to lazy pressing and it hurt the grade. woof
@weaponx313gamescomics
@weaponx313gamescomics 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing they tossed in that one non-custom label just so you'd have one 9.8 in the box. Fingers crossed the next box is all 9.8's and one 9.4 lol.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Lol they felt bad
@buraddorun3043
@buraddorun3043 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I could handle having my books gone for that long, honestly.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of refreshing on their website lol
@Itspersonalva
@Itspersonalva 2 жыл бұрын
I submitted mine in April 2021 and it just got to pressing Nov 13 then add another 6mths for grading. This might be the new normal.
@ihaveafewissues1788
@ihaveafewissues1788 2 жыл бұрын
I’m no grading expert but I had a couple of eye opener grades from CGC recently, and not in the good direction. I feel your occasional concern!
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed - I actually just did a batch to CBCS so we'll see!
@jackleddington2315
@jackleddington2315 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta be honest, I'm pretty disappointed wit CGC and CCS after this video. I know and trust your judgement when it comes to the grades of your books, and the 14 month turnaround time? I'm going with CBCS. This was eye opening. Props to you for keeping your composure, if I knew comics like you do, I would have been fuming. Hopefully they figure out whatever they have going on over there. Great video!
@geekimusprime
@geekimusprime 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was such a CGC fail. Also, I forgot not to submit multiple copies of the same book. 🤐 Wish me luck.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
It's just a learning experience!
@jaydedragoncomicsandgames8109
@jaydedragoncomicsandgames8109 2 жыл бұрын
I did too with uf4 second print 😭
@randomhero012
@randomhero012 2 жыл бұрын
They did you dirty with some of those grades but that green lantern is sick
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Very true
@mewild1032
@mewild1032 2 жыл бұрын
Again, with this video, you highlight another issue I have that I thought I'd never see talked about or even slabbed: ASM 187. Great story, and I absolutely love the page where Electro destroys the power station. Great job, and keep those post it notes in check.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Totally awesome - overlooked Spidey book
@theawesomedad2245
@theawesomedad2245 2 жыл бұрын
Damn! I'm scared to send anything in and honestly CGC seems a bit slackish.
@Vp-jt3vl
@Vp-jt3vl 2 жыл бұрын
Dammm dude 14 months 😭 I was planning to use CCS but I don't think I ever will, too many horror stories and I think they simply can't cope.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
I think 70 to 80 percent of the delay was with them, not CGC!
@evanmccombs8165
@evanmccombs8165 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think that you can literally change a lot during a comic submission! Like 14 months ago I lived in a different state and got married lol
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
I lived with my parents 14 months ago, had no animals, and my YT channel was just starting! lol
@TheShowstoppaTMNT
@TheShowstoppaTMNT 2 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel as I have been collecting the complete Knightfall saga over the last year. This video made me angry. I have a buddy who deals with mainly Beckett as he get a lot of cards graded. Considering this video (I am so pissed for you and surprised you didn’t curse more!) I will be moving my entire TMNT grading process to CBCS. I’ve had all 62 of the original run for 20 years and bc of watching your videos, I’m cancelling my CGC membership and doing CBCS on all gradings. Thanks and keep up the good work! You help first time submitters like myself learn so much!
@Arkon29
@Arkon29 2 жыл бұрын
I've been inspired by your earlier videos to organize my own collection and get a bunch of the key issues I have graded. However, after watching this unboxing I'm thinking about passing bigtime on using CGC. The whole thing seems to reek of inconsistency and poor quality control. Also as a Canadian collector, the discrepancy between the 2 currencies and the hike in CGC prices is a sharp kick to the wallet. Perhaps CBCS is the way to go?
@joelatorre
@joelatorre 2 жыл бұрын
Last week I finally received a book back that was at CGC since October 2020. It’s a silver age key that was signed as part of their signature series and was also pressed by CCS. It was submitted already encapsulated by CGC and it actually got a grade bump down when I got it back.
@danielmitchel31310
@danielmitchel31310 2 жыл бұрын
How bad
@cfrost25071
@cfrost25071 2 жыл бұрын
With the amount of product you are feeding them i cant believe they are not making sure things are absolutely on point with what your requests are! You handled that well live on camera. Id be going bananas!
@c-horse4694
@c-horse4694 2 жыл бұрын
You did a really good job staying positive through that. Phew. I don’t know if would’ve been.
@andymanning4886
@andymanning4886 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe CGC could consider offering pay rates higher than $15/hr for their new employees. Also, the fact that you could only find evidence of POOR pressing on the books is really disappointing and concerning, but perhaps you dodged a bullet if they didn't actually touch some of them.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe if it takes over a year it's on the house! hahahaha
@applepitz
@applepitz 2 жыл бұрын
*holy moley my brother... you rock dude... just gotta ask... how did you age your photo of yourself so convincingly... it really looks like it could be a real photo of you in 30 years... I couldn't stop staring at it for a few minutes in amazement... your video brings out why I probably will never use any of these grading services... it appears to have grown into one big scam to screw up the whole comic collecting industry... I will just stay RAW with my books...don't care for the slabs anyhow... mylar bags are fine by me... and as always... once corporate gets a hold of ANYTHING... they ruin it forever... and this looks like no exception here... but anyhoo... gotta say... you are one of the BEST comic info channels on the web... appreciate all you do for us fans brother... God Bless...*
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
I used some aging app!
@applepitz
@applepitz 2 жыл бұрын
@@MintHunterComics *well hot damn dude... it looks soooo legit...you should use it in other places... lol... just keep doing what you do... we LOVE it*
@tulpfiction8920
@tulpfiction8920 2 жыл бұрын
I had a submission like this as well, interior pages folded or anything like that
@lburwell99
@lburwell99 2 жыл бұрын
Wow crazy wait. Sorry they didn't turn out as good as you had hoped. I'm on the verge of doing my first submission of about 10 books, including an ASM 361 for Mark Bagley signing next month. I was able to find a somewhat local presser about an hour away, dropping my books off tomorrow. The in house presser turn around time is too much. I'm almost considering springing for fast track, which seems to have turn around times more like regular times were over a year ago.
@theycallmebruce3132
@theycallmebruce3132 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the more there are graded of a comic the tougher it seems to get a high grade. I also think if you get a newer modern comic in before anyone else, you'd get a higher grade. Also, James, you need to invest in a heat t-shirt press, watch youtube videos, practice on $1 bin books and press your own books! I promise the press will pay for itself with the first major book you press and send in. Plus it's so awesome the instant you can see the "dings" you've pressed out. If I can press them you can too!! Great video and my heartache for all your 9.4's and the non-press pressing that happened.
@KungFuChess
@KungFuChess 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered with all the books submitted if CGC ever swaps out the high grade books they get for lower ones and just hold on to the 9.8s
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's tooooo much of a conspiracy hahaha
@derekd4221
@derekd4221 2 жыл бұрын
That was one of the first thoughts I had. Like, how can someone be so wrong about expecting all those 9.8's and not getting one. Sketchy.
@MrRanman91
@MrRanman91 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if they ever just swap them out, but I could see it happening by accident where they have a bunch of the same comic being submitted (I mean, a lot of times people submit the hot book at the same time) and they mix them up.
@mikee4402
@mikee4402 2 жыл бұрын
They certainly have enough time to do that. A friend has 4 Gretzky rookie cards he forgot in his attic looking pretty sharp he was afraid to get PSA to grade them saying that this might happen to him ..I said no that won't happen. Then again he has been hustling his whole life, so he has instincts. When money is involved its always a thing to consider. Did Heritage just bid like a million on their own Super Mario Game? Who know but there certainly is some incentive to do this.
@doreenorr6435
@doreenorr6435 2 жыл бұрын
A bit paranoid, but who knows really? Lol
@happygolucky175
@happygolucky175 2 жыл бұрын
That is rough man, especially after waiting sooo long. But hey, they are still amazing books!
@thegamingroot5316
@thegamingroot5316 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think cgc will eventually go out of business I dont think so because the brand they have is to strong and it looks good and if people stop using it some people would think turn around times will get better and it would come back and this might be a cycle btw I love these videos helps me learn some comics to look out for one comics shop I go to has thousands of comic which i get lots a keys from for cheap
@orl1102
@orl1102 2 жыл бұрын
How would you "protect" yourself against this? Take pictures of the fronts and backs before you submit? If the books were damaged in transit or if a presser did the damage, is it just your word against theirs? This is my biggest hesitation when it comes to sending my keys to get graded.
@raulvera8469
@raulvera8469 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard rumors of CGC’s pressing. I would assume their pressing should be one of the best. I follow a few people that do it and their work looks great! I just sent my first item to CGC for a George Perez signing. I didn’t do the pressing because it’s a thicker book that didn’t seem to need it. Plus I’m in it for more of the signature than the grade. The grading you got sure seems to be averaging around the same number. Makes me wonder if the grader just kept to a certain grade.
@Lithograph_Comics
@Lithograph_Comics 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, my man. That's a harsh ruling from the CGC gods. I've got some books there myself that are 11 months in now. I wonder how much damage and/or "unpressing" of pressed flaws happened while they sit in a pile for a year? I will also say...I believe any grade, and I mean ANY F'ING GRADE below a 9.8 should have grader's notes. Even if it's an obvious "fuzzy corner" or something clear, I don't care. GRADER'S NOTES SHOULD BE REQUIRED.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
It's possible these WERE pressed but then just sat
@Itspersonalva
@Itspersonalva 2 жыл бұрын
Sitting for 137 days could do that. It's like your just getting half of the benefit of pressing now.
@williamhammock4821
@williamhammock4821 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, otherwise, why we paying for this shit in the first place????
@noodle3384
@noodle3384 2 жыл бұрын
ouch... cbcs finally added my book to the pending list from october. man this really bummed me out. sometimes it just really feels like a scam.
@HalfmoonsPicks
@HalfmoonsPicks 2 жыл бұрын
I do prescreen 9.8, and if I only get 8 slabbed then its more than if I don't prescreen. I have gotten all 9.4s before like you got many times. So now I submit twice. First prescreen 9.8 then submit the same books again non-prescreen. And sometimes the second submissions brings me some 9.8. Go figure.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
I've done the same when grading gets harsh - BUT now everything's more expensive so I don't really feel like double submitting
@HalfmoonsPicks
@HalfmoonsPicks 2 жыл бұрын
@@MintHunterComics Well the first submission is less than 10 bucks if it gets rejected. To me its worth it if your willing to wait. :)
@DeenKarate
@DeenKarate 2 жыл бұрын
One of my orders of 5 books from last year, CGC admitted that my books were not pressed (though I paid for them), but just slabbed. I have since sent them back and who knows when I might see them again. I feel your frustration and worrisome about my books currently with CGC/CCS :(
@Shrewsclues_75
@Shrewsclues_75 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, I’m not trying to throw salt in a wound but when you got the 9.0 on the ASM 156… your reaction mixed with the Pos-it note stuck to your arm had me rolling. On a serious note you got hammered by the grader and presser though. And the fact that your pres-screening wasn’t prioritized is discouraging.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, gotta have a laugh in the middle. I'm not really mad at CGC as much as with CCS
@kylekimbro9496
@kylekimbro9496 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me want to go CBCS instead of CGC for my first submissions honestly.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
CBCS is a great company!
@kylekimbro9496
@kylekimbro9496 2 жыл бұрын
@@MintHunterComics either CCS owes your some money or CGC needs to re grade that stack.
@Into_The_Void_UK
@Into_The_Void_UK 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, i feel for you so bad! All that wait for that outcome ☹️
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
This
@speedbagboxer7451
@speedbagboxer7451 Жыл бұрын
The only 9.8 was the book from the other batch. Whoever graded the bulk of ur books either didn’t know what they were doing or didn’t care to give a honest grade, seems like someone was having a bad day and took it out on you. Also the newton rings, some books not seeming to be pressed, while others were pressed incorrectly damaging the staples, no graders notes, and receiving 3 9.0’s despite the 9.2 cutoff, and no custom labels on the last signature series books…Just unreal bro… I felt for ya watching this.
@sadbttru
@sadbttru 2 жыл бұрын
So are you done with cgc yet? This was a tough one. I can only imagine the reaction once the camera was turned off. I loved how you were really trying to stay optimistic during the video and just kept getting the kick to the balls! I don’t know what the solution is but cgc seems to be letting more subjectivity into their work at the cost of defined grading.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
I would be - but I know their customer support will make this right. with all their flaws the customer support is air tight. (Plus I still have. a ton of submissions left with them not yet graded)
@crazy8comics456
@crazy8comics456 2 жыл бұрын
Which is more frustrating, the lower then expected grades, botched pressings, lower grades given then your cut off, or not getting the custom labels, or that there’s no graders notes at all after announcing that they are now free for members…..?
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it's hard to pick lol
@adamburkhart4046
@adamburkhart4046 2 жыл бұрын
The Rip Van Winkle thumbnail is hilarious!
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@etapi65
@etapi65 2 жыл бұрын
Could CGC be taking guesses about expectations because you sent to pressing? "Oh, this went to pressing first, bet they think it's a 9.2, so lets slap a 9.4 on there."? Grading at CGC has been a little inexplicable for the past 2ish years. My experience was gross overgrading.
@joenuyen6017
@joenuyen6017 2 жыл бұрын
Using ccs for first time for perez signing, I’m not expecting anything life changing lol. But I def think they are grading 1975-95 much much harder. Hands down
@Joeh1154
@Joeh1154 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice unboxing here. Plenty of good books. Well, now I know about doubles but I did send in two Secret Wars #8 which is at CGC now scheduled for grading. My one thing is Newton rings (Newton's rings?). I just received back a copy of ASM #300 and smack dab in the middle of the slab there is a big blotchy Newton ring. I'll be contacting them and I'll ask to re-slab it on their dime. Best to all.
@DukeCityExplorer
@DukeCityExplorer 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone else ever thought that CGC could switch the books you submit with the same book, but with a lower grade?
@marvelvsdc6611
@marvelvsdc6611 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the thought has crossed my mind.😡 Supposedly they film each book being graded…at least I think I read that somewhere. I’ve heard horror stories from others getting their books pressed by CCS. I’m gonna have to find another third party to press my books and then submit to CBCS.
@tjolly9264
@tjolly9264 2 жыл бұрын
Man, that was brutal. You have earned a new subscriber. The least I could do.
@tazblazing
@tazblazing 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happen when CGC hold on to them books for over 12 months.. Last mins grading there with all 9.6 and below... Man u have lot of patient there... Me probably throw everything across the room..!!! 🤣
@timgorman8181
@timgorman8181 2 жыл бұрын
Felt super bad for you bro. Love your videos, knowledge of comics and passion as a collector. Hated seeing you get the grades you got, especially after a 14 month wait. That’s absolutely ridiculous.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Got a few choice words for CCS right now
@nicholaspalazzo8855
@nicholaspalazzo8855 2 жыл бұрын
I’m finding that CGC has slowly gotten stricter on books that have higher pop counts. I could be wrong and just paranoid but I feel that I was getting 9.8s much easier a few years ago on modern keys, like the ones you got there than I am now.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to confirm but I def agree with you Nicholas
@monksden467
@monksden467 2 жыл бұрын
And some people reporting that they getting 9.8’s with multiple visible color breaks spine ticks. There was a KZbin video someone showing a 9.8 recently graded that had major spine ticks. I think CGC is scrambling to get their turnaround times under control and hiring inexperienced people. Basically it’s a crapshoot who will be grading your book. Nightmare!
@papi-sauce
@papi-sauce 2 жыл бұрын
It comes in waves. Sometimes is all 9.6s and sometimes they giving out 9.8s like hot cakes
@leisbersalas
@leisbersalas 2 жыл бұрын
Your reaction to Uncanny X-men 141… PRICELESS.. i felt your pain . These live reaction videos are great!
@twobentstaplescomics6522
@twobentstaplescomics6522 2 жыл бұрын
First off, the Old Man Mint Hunter graphic you put together for this video is a 9.8 contender for sure. Truly a thing of beauty. And, unfortunately, I feel you as I feel the grades I’ve been getting back have been brutal as well. There were books in my last submission that I SWEAR got dinged or damaged when they were not in my possession. It is really frustrating, because it’s so inconsistent. Additionally, I feel like if the book is not a 9.8, there should be Grader’s Notes associated with the book, period. But hey, I also need to remind myself that I’m in the hobby for the fun of it, and that I’m also to blame for not being more discerning in the books I submit for grading. You’ll get ‘em next time James.
@ayolocks
@ayolocks 2 жыл бұрын
makes me really worry about my SS #1 i sent in october with a 3rd party clean and press which i have no doubt the guy i use is amazing but i just hope cgc does a better job and hopefully aren’t as lazy as they were with your submission as with mine coming
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping the same for you man. CCS has been great to me in the past. not sure what happened here
@stevecapaldi1999
@stevecapaldi1999 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, something is definitely up! So strange they slabbed books even though they didn’t make the prescreen grade, forgot custom labels on REslabs. & possibly didn’t press or even worse caused damage when pressing. Have you ever been that far off on grading books?
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably the most off I've ever been when submitting modern books
@Maz08
@Maz08 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll never submit books to CGC. What a joke. They screwed you man. I’d be pissed!!
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
I got a few words for CCS
@hezipullup2600
@hezipullup2600 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the frustration build little by little as the video progresses was absolute comedy. Hats off to you man. Hopefully the next submission goes better, but these type of videos are always entertaining as well.
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha I'm glad it's amusing!
@hunterpemberton7631
@hunterpemberton7631 2 жыл бұрын
After this one video, you’ve jumped up there with ComicTom, RegieCollects, and Swaglehaus for my favorite comic channels. Those books deserve to be higher but I love the content regardless man!
@jmorganc77
@jmorganc77 2 жыл бұрын
Are they grading harsher on the custom labels for some reason? I have noticed they seem to grade the signed books "better", well, less harshly, let's say.
@MarkDemeo
@MarkDemeo 2 жыл бұрын
I have several books that I would love to get graded, but I just don't have the funds to do it right now. With all the price hikes, mistakes, and turnaround times getting worse instead of better. I'm almost glad I don't have the money to get books slabbed.
@dansutton9268
@dansutton9268 2 жыл бұрын
The long wait and questionable grades is more of a reason im checking out EGS
@nathanedwards4728
@nathanedwards4728 2 жыл бұрын
Today I spoke to the third party submitter that submitted my books to CGC as i have spoken to other users on facebook that submitted after me but have received their books back already, and they told me that CGC have moved to a new building by themselves and have mixed up all of the submissions and the date they were submitted so some are being sent back super quick and i guess the reset of us have to put up with it bad way to run a business in my opinion
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Now that's just a shame to hear
@Ravensflock89
@Ravensflock89 2 жыл бұрын
Of course on the last book you get a 9.8 lol. Your unboxing has me nervous for my submission(which I submitted in November). This is my first time submitting anything to CGC and I am nervous. Honestly if I get a 9.0 on everything I’ll be happy. Can’t wait to see your unboxing video next week
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@consequences
@consequences 2 жыл бұрын
Feeling pretty nervous about the 6.0 X-Men 141 & 142 I'm sending in for pressing, Claremont remarques , and re-grading, now. When you unveiled the 173's grade, your eyes rolled back so far they were almost completely white.
@bat2275
@bat2275 2 жыл бұрын
The days of getting 9.8 grades on 1980s books are over. That was a few years ago. They don't give out 9.8 on 1980s books anymore except for very rare circumstances. Time people woke up to this fact.
@dc8201
@dc8201 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too and it makes me question CGC for not doing their job properly. CGC needs to give a book the proper grade and not based on when it was slabbed. It goes to show that CGC is being a lot more subjective on purpose instead of being objective.
@tradepaperdad8858
@tradepaperdad8858 2 жыл бұрын
Did you use CCS pressing or your own pressing service? Could be the long time waiting caused moisture to get back in? It’s odd to me that when CGC makes an error so many collectors blame themselves i.e. “don’t submit the same books.” If CGC grading is impartial then it should not matter.
@sfq7675
@sfq7675 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard very little except terrible things on the in-house CGC pressers. Admittedly I haven't done a ton of CGC but I always use a third-party.
@sfq7675
@sfq7675 2 жыл бұрын
Heard CCS later in the video - total heartbreaker.
@ComicBoomTube
@ComicBoomTube 2 жыл бұрын
How can there be no grader's notes? I assumed that there was always notes. I guess not? I assume then that CGC is not obligated to provide grader's notes and it is entirely in their discretion whether or not to record any?
@MintHunterComics
@MintHunterComics 2 жыл бұрын
I know right? especially since lately they've given graders notes for books with even just a 9.6. how can my 9.0 not have notes?
@ComicBoomTube
@ComicBoomTube 2 жыл бұрын
@@MintHunterComics In my view, grader's notes ought to be mandatory and part of what you pay for. Customers pay a lot of money for a comic to get professionally graded and the lack of grader's notes can have an impact on resale value. If there is no obvious defect to explain a particular downgrade from what might appear to be a 9.8 or 9.6.... and it's a 9.0...the grader's notes are crucial. I don't think it is unreasonable to expect them. The more I think about it the more stunned I am at their absence on some of your slabs. I wonder if your experience is common.
@half-manhalfamazing
@half-manhalfamazing 2 жыл бұрын
Man that's rough... I submitted books in June of 2021 not very hopeful that they'll show up until winter of 2022 and I sent 2 UF#4 and 2 Invisible Ironman #9... Not very hopeful...😕
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