14c28n stainless steel edge retention test PBKG style

Held up decently for a budget steel
#sharp #sharpening #scarysharp #edgeretention #knife #knifereview

[@davidlagno7717]

14c28n is one of my favorite steels for edc over the past 20yrs

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

It’s a decent steel

[@johnj6689]

Years ago I bought a Buck 336 Paradigm Avid in 13c26. I got an H5 Gerfalcon in 14c28n by Real Steel to give Sandvik a second chance. I just don't think Sandvik steels are upgrades to AUS-6, AUS-8, and 7Cr17MoV. Definitely lower rust resistance. Sandvik gets very sharp but the latter does too. As a utility knife steel both 13c26 and 14c28n chip easily. I just felt like I was sharpening it more often due to how brittle it is. I think knife brands mark it up as an upgrade but in fact it's cheaper than the AUS and 440 Series fare.

[@addictedtoblades2]

Great demonstration brother ❤

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Thank you

[@bigjsknives]

Good test with this!! Thanks for sharing!!

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Thanks 😊

[@Davidtechguy]

Great video. Thorough

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Thank you

[@singingtoad]

Thanks for doing this awesome edge retention test, the 14C28N performed fairly well considering the price point. 👍Take care and Cheers!

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Yeah. Because who knows the heat treatment lol

[@george_1702]

Nice test. I love this steel. Have it on my EDC blade. Thanks. 👍

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Right on

[@LastChanceKnives]

That's about how I expected it to compare against S35VN. Thanks for doing the test!

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

No problem. Honestly it does great for a budget steel though

[@LastChanceKnives]

@peterbiltknifeguy I think it is a great result for the steel. 14c28n is also pretty tough. I have a Vosteed Nightshade in Nitro V that performs about identical to 14c28n, love that knife! I also have one in Elmax and that one is phenomenal.

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

@@LastChanceKnives awesome

[@John..18]

I have the Real Steel Bushcraft Plus, in this steel, and as you show, it takes a great edge but only holds it "fairly well", but a few passes on a strop, and it's screaming again,, Great video,, thanks, 👍🔪

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Right on

[@gregblake2764]

You started with a more acute edge on the Watchman knife than on the Essee. It would be interesting to see how well the edge would hold up if you resharpened it to the same profile as the Essee.

[@rm8874]

Have you ever tried the Tops Mowhawk Hunter or Black Eagle Strike Team(B.E.S.T)? Also, do you try brands from overseas? Because Halfbreed is awesome.

[@rasputinscastle]

Thanks brother 🙏

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Welcome

[@jclaxton78]

Would love to see some Rough Ryder fixed blade reviews and tests. I don't know though, lots of people make fun of 440A but RR does a good heat treatment.

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Do they hallow grind the knives?

[@jclaxton78]

@@peterbiltknifeguy Not that I know of. Everything I've ever bought from them is flat ground. RR1824 is one of my favorite models of theirs.

[@michaelwaldeck7081]

There should be and secondary test on the working edge as opposed to the razor edge. Filleting fish is a good test of the working edge because you certainly notice when that working edge is gone on fish especially when skinning.

[@donjuanmckenzie4897]

The izula os actually really thick behind the edge. The esee 3 is much thinner

[@LegionTacticoolCutlery]

I say excellent man!!!

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Thank you

[@andrewfournier8817]

14c28n strikes me as a good replacement for carbon steels on bigger, heavier use knives, kitchen knives, filet knives. Takes a good edge easily, is easy to maintain, and doesn't chip or shatter easily. S35 is great- it's about a 3rd as tough with almost twice the abrasion resistance and similarly more demanding edge maintenance. I like and use both. Nice test

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Thank you

[@Airik1111bibles]

Tops is doing the same thing with their MSK 2 5 little scandi knives. They are fresking $90 now yet the larger Trekker is only about $10 more and has been that price sunce before inflation? The little blades are absolutely overpriced compared to their other products . These clones are great deals and they even have a 3Hm clone .....Im very tempted to get one of those too.

[@dlrmon1]

I’m guessing you’re 14c28n is on the soft side if you’re dealing with a floppy wire edge. I re-profiled a few Cold Steel blades today...S35vn & 4116. Then I did that wrench knife...thought I was going to be there forever on that one.

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

No. It wasn’t floppy. When shaping the steel felt hard. Very hard. Maybe I was just rushing

[@Airik1111bibles]

I have one on the way , I hope I get the right one cause some people have been getting the wrong knife model. My experience with 14C28N has be great but geometry helps....A slight convex will improve its performance. I believe the 14C28N is all made I think in Germany by croup-steel ? It was made specifically as a knife steel on the market. We shall see, ...I was HIGHLY impressed with their other Esee clone of the C2 Bird and Game knife . Its in their D53 Steel , ive never used that before but it came wicked hair popping sharp. $23 is a freaking amazing deal considering the Esee $99 price tag .

[@TheSogGrunt]

I’ve had this on my Amazon wish list for a while as I’ve been impressed with the Watchman knives.I have a couple and they are great knives for the price.This one definitely looks a winner and I would carry in my pocket like the Izula 😊🔪👍

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Heck yeah. I’m liking it so far

[@TheSogGrunt]

@@peterbiltknifeguy That’s all I needed to hear 😊🔪👍

[@scottf.3808]

The testing had some good results.....You know the only way to find out what true steel this knife is made of is to send it off to be tested for the steel right?...At least you would have confidence to know it is what it is for closure....Good stuff....

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Very true. But would cost more than the knife lol. So I’ll just assume 😂

[@scottf.3808]

@@peterbiltknifeguy Yep, that is for the huge channels that have connections deep in the industry....LOL...

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

@@scottf.3808 super deep connections 😂👍

[@scottf.3808]

@@peterbiltknifeguy 👍👍🤣🤣

[@richardhenry1969]

I wonder if that's really 14c28n. Really hard to know with unknown Chinese companies. I know on ali express they have that same knife with 2 different steels.

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Yeah. The other is D2. Who knows 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@richardhenry1969]

@@peterbiltknifeguy don't get me wrong I think it's a great knife for the price. I just follow a few knife channels. One sends out knives to see if the steel matches the marking then he checks hardness. I know a few brands got caught with different stuff. That even happened in America to a big name company. I believe the Rockwell really tells you more. But when you have certain super steels if the Rockwell is low then it's a waste paying for a steel that reaches 65. If your interested in what certain steels are capable of checkout Outpost76 he really put in some great work an Luvthemknives. Both have been around not sure if Outpost76 is still making videos. Most of those guys gave up. I believe they realized how much is bull an marketing. My opinion 😆.

[@levelwu]

This was my thought as well. Check out Ruike F815-J, it was a pleasant surprise despite being from the same C origin.

[@normcote270]

Blade retention isn't as good as I'd expected it would be. But as you said, it's a $35.00 Knife.

[@morganacanon]

The Sandvik steel isn't really known for edge retention. It's a tough steel that takes abuse and easy to keep sharp. The strop is your friend there. I have a Joker Campero with that steel, and holy smokes can that thing get scary sharp. It will be put to the test on deer hide next month.....that might be a really good test of edge retention and proper edge geometry. This would be a good time of year to stock up too

[@donjuanmckenzie4897]

That's the beauty of simple steels

[@thiago.assumpcao]

Edge retention depends on the mechanism of edge loss. If you use a test with abrasive material durability will be low but that's not how it works all the time. Cutting food on a wooden board has almost no contact with abrasives. The knife gets dull by mechanical fatigue and edge rolling. A high hardness, high toughness steel like 14C28N has great durability in this situation if heat treatment is done properly.

[@user-hk9du6px9x]

Chinese garbage? Yup!

[@user-zy6sz2lm3e]

I feel the same, I strop my sandvik often and sharpen hardly ever

[@S7ORM3X]

damm thats a scary rope

[@Prosecute-fauci]

As good as CPM3V. That’s incredible for a $30 knife

[@keithcon3505]

I agree with this assessment. For a Bush craft/hard use edc at $30, this is amazing. Also given that 14c28n is tough, stainless, and cuts as well as 3v. What's not to like. The Chinese knife steel is making progress.

[@levelwu]

If it is from Sweden it should be as good as 154CM.

[@TheOneAndOnlySame]

1:15 Yes, I call that " stupid sharp". The moment you cut anything this level of sharpness is destroyed.

[@ryanwalker1825]

More scientific cuts on rope you should do pressure Force cuts like in martial arts... instead of sawing but idk you got the stuff haha

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

That might be a good idea. But I kinda saw on all my tests

[@exodussurvival]

Do we think this is actually 14c28n?

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

I do. It’s not a high dollar steel

[@julesgardet659]

Wtf… Are you a partime surgeon? A working edge is all you need outdoors. ☝🏼

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

I just like sharp knives 🤷🏻‍♂️ but you are correct

[@user-zg3vs9mt5k]

Zero use for super steels. Aren't field friendly never belong in a bugout bag. All knives get dulled, how much extra gear you wanna pack just to sharpen a knife!! 1095 or 14c28n anyday over super hard to sharpen steels. I do acknowledge super steel is fantastic stuff great edge retention, tough, mostly stain resistant. Incredible steel, just not lo g term field friendly.

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

What do you use as a sharper?

[@user-zy6sz2lm3e]

Same here. Properly treated 8cr14mov/440 is criminaly underrated. Keep a knife sharp with proper maintenance

[@Drunken_Frog_40000]

I don't believe it's 14c28, it's more like 8cr13mov like a lot of Chinese knives (often stamped like d2 or even s35 etc.

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Why do you believe that

[@user-zy6sz2lm3e]

I have found that over the 40 dollar mark for clone folders and over 30 dollar fixed, they are pretty true to what is stamped.

[@brr8888]

Most likely 8cr or lower China is known to misrepresent their knife steel.

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Why would you say that. I mean I agree. But I feel it did well

[@ronfry5851]

You realize that stupid can't be anyting😮

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Huh 🤔?

[@4673962]

​@@peterbiltknifeguyexactly 🤷

[@user-hk9du6px9x]

Garbage steel😂

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

Huh

[@user-hk9du6px9x]

@@peterbiltknifeguy just get s35vn

[@peterbiltknifeguy]

@@user-hk9du6px9x 👍

[@SirPraiseSun]

garbage casual opinion