15 Connecting it all together

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Vineyard in the Nordic Countries

Vineyard in the Nordic Countries

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EDIT: This summer (2016) we will try something new and better. Instead of a dedicated computer with MXLight (which is very unintuitive to use), we will buy a VidiU H.264 encoder box: teradek.com/pag.... Split the HDMI output of the ATEM with an active HDMI splitter box. One of the outputs goes to the VidiU for streaming and one goes to a computer monitor with speakers or a TV screen. No need for an extra computer, and the one computer you need doesn't have to be a wild animal.
For the recording: Instead of using an Intensity Shuttle which only allows you to record in almost uncompressed quality, which again demands a fast hard drive, I recommend using the USB output from the ATEM, and hook that to your computer. Use the built in recorder in the ATEM remote control software to record in about 20-50Mbit/s H.264 file. This is far easier to handle for your hard drive, and good enough quality to edit/upload to KZbin.
SDI from each camera (via HDMI to SDI converter) to the switcher
Audio from the PA mixer to XLR input of one of the cameras. Switch these inputs to Line (not microphone) and turn off auto level.
Use the internal microphone of one of the other cameras. Turn off auto level.
Remote control the switcher via network cable to a computer
Multiview HDMI output to a TV screen (no sound)
Program HDMI output to a second TV screen (with sound)
-- Or Program HDMI output to an Intensity Shuttle box, so you can record with a computer.
USB 2 out of the switcher to a computer (Windows) for streaming
Producer's microphone connected to a wireless or a wired system (via a microphone amplifier if needed)
If wired system: Tape/twist ordinary audio cables with minijack male in one end and minijack female in the other end together with the video cables.
Program SDI out to a secondary room (children's room?)
Addition: You probably have a computer connected to a projector showing videos, lyrics and powerpoints. I mention in one of the videos that you can connect it to your switcher but not how.
Be sure that the computer screen is set to the same format as the cameras (like 1280x720 50Hz). If you can't do this, you have to use a scaler. A cheap little box with VGA/HDMI/DVI in and HDMI out and it will transform any resolution and frame rate to whatever you need.
But there's another issue: There are two color systems: RGB (three signals with red, green and blue), which the computer world use, and YCbCr (also written as YUV) (three signals with luminans and two chrominans signals), which the video world use. The ATEM switcher demands YUV and if it receives RGB instead the colors are totally messed up (although you get a viewable video signal). If you connect a modern computer to the switcher and nothing else, the computer normally switches to YUV and everything is OK, but if you have to split the signal, one to a projector and one to the switcher, the projector might demand RGB. I haven't found any places where you can choose between RGB and YUV, neither in any projectors, computers nor scaler boxes (within reasonable price). At the summer camp 2013 we had to live with wrong colors, but now Blackmagic has released a firmware update to their HDMI-SDI converters that converts from RGB to YUV if necessary. So this year (2014) we had correct colors.
Conclusion:
HDMI directly out from a computer to the switcher and not any projectors: Works great as long as you set the computer to the same resolution and frame rate as your cameras.
But you probably have VGA. I used this setup this summer: Computer VGA output to a VGA splitter. One output to the projector and one to a VGA-HDMI scaler box. This box both converts from analogue VGA to digital HDMI and scale whatever input to 720p50 (or whatever you set it to). From this box to a HDMI-SDI converter box (from Blackmagic with new firmware). Then a long coax-cable to the producer room. But since all my SDI inputs on the switcher were occupied with cameras I had to use an SDI to HDMI-converter box in the end. Many boxes, but the computer signal was crisp and nice.

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@jorgenbjerke
@jorgenbjerke 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your nice comments. Glad that you find these tutorials useful.
@heathjohnson954
@heathjohnson954 10 жыл бұрын
I really liked this series because of the way that you solved the audio feed into the ATEM via the cameras and not the AES/EBU digital audio input. Very clever. Cheers.
@wolsamTV
@wolsamTV 10 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for these tutorials! they helped us to start a multicam broadcasting in our local church. Greetings from Russia)
@DustyWoods
@DustyWoods 10 жыл бұрын
I've watched several other videos that have outright said that the only way to live stream from the ATEM is to take it into a blackmagic HDMI to thunderbolt / usb converter. I had no idea you could stream straight from the USB output on the ATEM. This is a great demonstration, I will be using this to help set up my university TV station. Thanks very much!
@socaminister
@socaminister 9 жыл бұрын
i had to stop viewing the clip to tell you thanks for production this video, It helped ALOT
@jorgenbjerke
@jorgenbjerke 9 жыл бұрын
+Clinton Providence Thanks. Good to hear :)
@keluangmeng
@keluangmeng 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of the video....its very helpful
@DrMoodyDPM
@DrMoodyDPM 11 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@Averygodsgift
@Averygodsgift 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much this video helped out a lot!
@jorgenbjerke
@jorgenbjerke 9 жыл бұрын
Pawan Ramnarain: If you use the BM ATEM switcher, it has no analogue inputs of any sort, neither video or audio, and the computer controlling it, does just that: controlling it. But, yes, if you take the HDMI output of the ATEM into the computer, you could technically mix that with analogue audio, but I guess you will have a big out of sync problem unless you put the audio through a delay box. I haven't tried this, I have just noticed there is a slight delay between what I hear live and what I hear through my ATEM. Therefore I recommend putting the audio into one of the cameras instead to have the audio sync with the video and everything goes through the ATEM. If you plan to use the USB output for streaming, you have no choice but inserting the audio into the ATEM in one or another way. I use the setup mentioned in this video. ATEMs bundled remote mixing software (both video and audio). All mixing is done on the ATEM itself, not on the computer. Streaming software: MXLight. I don't use Adobe FMLE. I could, of course, but then I need a really fast laptop to do the realtime encoding to H.264. I guess a modern Macbook Pro would do the job with no problem, but probably not a Macbook Air (???) It is absolutely possible to stream and record on the same computer. BUT: If you want to record in a higher quality than the stream, I understand that FLME can't do this, but I'm not sure. FLME can output several stream qualities, but I don't know if you can direct one of them only for recording. You can't record with another software while using FLME. FLME will take over the incoming signal totally. Same goes with the recording facility in the ATEM software. It will not let FLME use the signal if ATEM is recording. You need a second computer to do this split quality thing. And to save money (by not buying an ultra fast laptop) I use the USB-signal from the ATEM through MXLight.
@BurninSven1
@BurninSven1 9 жыл бұрын
You can do this with a mac too hooking up the atem tvs to a capturecard and in addition to the atem tvs switcher also use all the features you have in CamTwist which is a software cam swithcer. Camtwist will let you playback media files too. The streaming app you can use is Flash Media Live Encoder
@raulflorescariola3551
@raulflorescariola3551 4 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot!
@boensie6905
@boensie6905 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for a very good and useful tutorial which covers pretty much the same topics to the situation that we are on. What we need is to record the sermon and power point presentation. And after that we will upload the video to our KZbin channel. At the moment we are using FCPX to edit the video and put the slide images to the desired position. Which consumes a lot of time... To do that job, we are thinking of purchasing Blackmagic ATEM Television Studio to do the switching between video camera and powerpoints and probably use Hyperdeck Shuttle to record the program from the switcher output. We are also in the situation where we need to use splitter at the VGA output of the computer, so we will need VGA-HDMI scaler box. Could you tell me what brand and type of VGA-HDMI scaler box you are using that converts and scales analogue VGA to HDMI? Since the distance between the switcher and the computer is less than 5 m, can I plug the output of the scaler box straight to the switcher using HDMI cable? We are hiring university lecture theatre for our church, so we need to setup and pack up our A/V stuffs every week. Do you have any suggestions or simpler system configurations for our need? Thanks Jorgen... GBU in your work.
@faizalmbi
@faizalmbi 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks, its really helpful
@tedz2000
@tedz2000 8 жыл бұрын
What software do you use to stream to internet.
@muhamadsopian4131
@muhamadsopian4131 6 жыл бұрын
can i just instantly use hdmi cable to the atem television studio without blackmagic converter hdmi2sdi?
@Virtual-and-reality
@Virtual-and-reality 7 жыл бұрын
Hy can you please upload a complete video about centre apparatus room (CAR) I need to know which equipment are used in
@Virtual-and-reality
@Virtual-and-reality 7 жыл бұрын
And how to install it all
@KawaiiKamikaze1
@KawaiiKamikaze1 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this tutorial. I also do live broadcasts using a custom built laptop with 3 HDMI input for video recording, but now am thinking of using a macbook pro retina to do the job because of the HDMI's limiting factors. SDI is a better option, but i'll need all the equipments as shown in the video. I saw some people solved the audio feed problem by using the aux 3.5mm standard cable from mixer to audio input jack in the laptop and then using the video mixing software to mix audio with video. Do you think its a good idea? Also what video mixing and streaming softwares do you use. Adobe has flash media live encoder for Mac. Cant we stream directly on the same laptop while recording with another software?
@realtorealvideo
@realtorealvideo 10 жыл бұрын
I see that the ATEM 1 switcher or television studio is available with audio control. You recommend these units? Trying to to make a decision of which one to buy or they about the same. One is a little cheaper. Also, when I connect to my computer I have a external thunderbolt hard drive that I use on my mac....can I record to that hard drive? I am sure but I want your opinion.
@joepim23
@joepim23 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and advices, really appreciated. One question, do you know if there is any restrictions on what kind of camera you can use on the blackmagic? I am using right now 2 Sony NX5 and a GoPro, the 3 are working well. But I tried to use an old Sony Z1 and another HDMI camera but can't connect with this 2, and I'm wondering maybe there is a restriction or something I dont know...
@jorgenbjerke
@jorgenbjerke 10 жыл бұрын
This is what BM says about supported standards: www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/atemtelevisionstudio/techspecs/ Are you sure you have set ALL the cameras to exactly the same standard? And the switcher as well? As I say in one of the videos (or two), the HDMI may not output the same standard as you set for recording. Some cameras output the same standard regardless of the recording standard. Some cameras have two separate menu items for recording and output formats. This could be the case for you...?
@kduque068
@kduque068 9 жыл бұрын
Does this work with any camera?..In new to the video and audio world. I have a Sonyvx2000 and a NikonD3300 and i need to connect it to our Church sound Any help.. helps!
@jorgenbjerke
@jorgenbjerke 9 жыл бұрын
kduque068 No. These cameras will not connect directly with SDI. The Sony camera is a DV camera and have only analogue and FireWire (digital compressed) output. I don't know about the Nikon, but I guess is has only analogue. You need analogue to SDI converter boxes. But if you use an analogue video switcher, you can connect them via coax cables (not SDI signal, but analogue). This signal doesn't carry audio though.
@keon001
@keon001 8 жыл бұрын
ATEM TV Studio usb port is only for capture ? i cant running any streaming software to get the driver , just can ATEM software capture h.264 only...
@realtorealvideo
@realtorealvideo 9 жыл бұрын
When recording on the lab top, can I burn a DVD, Blue ray or upload to a flash drive?
@jorgenbjerke
@jorgenbjerke 9 жыл бұрын
realtorealvideo Sure. The video you record is a standard QuickTime-file (.mov). You can import this into a DVD/BD-authoring software like iDVD (Mac) or Adobe Encore.
@gearjammermedia4220
@gearjammermedia4220 8 жыл бұрын
or u can just run hdmi out of the cameras thru a black magic box out to ur mac with thunderbolt and use a switcher software to switch while streaming and recording a high quality signal at the same time....there is always something new haha
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