15 Tips & Hacks For Getting The Best Deal On Flights

15 tips & hacks on how to save money on airline tickets. Air travel doesn't have to cost a fortune if you know the tricks of the trade. I'll share some basics tips to save a bit, and some more advanced hacks to book the cheapest flights possible. Tip #1: Be Flexible. Want to fly at Christmas?It’s going to be expensive! Be flexible on your dates, and your destination, and perhaps your oubtound airport. Use the “flexible dates” feature that many search engines have. The difference of one day can be hundreds of dollars. Google Flights has a “Explore Destinations” feature. I often find it can be cheaper to fly to Japan than New York.
2. Use multiple airfare search engines
I like Kayak, Google Flights, Momondo, Skyscanner
3. Plan in advance
Start at least 12 weeks out… book before 6 weeks out is usually best. Unless it’s an award booking, then when the schedule opens, often a year ahead… or last minute, like the day before.
Exception is holiday travel… you might want to book those way way out… but only if you KNOW you are traveling. Change fees will quickly eat up any savings.
4. Know how to spot a good price
Airline prices are a little bit like the weather, they fluctuate wildly
Search your route over time to see the fare go up, down…
Kayak has a price forecast, and a “fare watch” tool
5. Pay attention to the fare rules
7, 14, 21 days before, saturday stay over… travel on a certain day
6. Look out for fare sales
Sign up for your favorite airlines e-mail list
Theflightdeal.com is a good site
Or mistake fares -- be quick -- but these sometimes get cancelled
7. Look for tickets as one person
Sometimes buying tickets for “2” or more is more expensive
But you can buy “1”... and then another “1”
8. Use one-way fares, multiple airlines for a round trip
Yes, you can fly United there, and Jet Blue back
But if you book 2 one ways, or multiple carriers your change fees can be higher
9. Fly a budget carrier
Southwest
Norwegian
WOW Air
Ryan Air, etc
10. Book from a different city / pay in a foreign currency
Japan Airlines might be cheaper if you book the ticket from their Japan website and pay in Yen.
11. Use a travel agent or consolidator
Some airlines -- particularly Asian carriers will offer heavily discounted tickets to travel agents
12. Book a connecting flight
Airlines know people like non-stops… so connecting flights are often (but not always) cheaper. Just make sure to have plenty of time at your connecting point.
13. Book a hidden city ticket
Book a flight with a stop-over, then get off at the stop-over instead of the final destination
Don’t check a bag though
And airlines really don’t like this
Best website for this is skiplagged -- to tell you how much the airlines don’t like this, United sued skiplagged
14. Fuel Dump
Book an extra city at the end that will cause the ticket to price without fuel surcharges, or lower fuel surcharges
LAX to Narita, Haneda to Burbank, then Burbank to the Caribbean
But you don’t take the last leg… airlines don’t like this one either
15. Award tickets
But this is a topic for a whole other video
Things that don’t matter:
Day of the week
Time of day
After Midnight
Incognito Mode
Incense
Standing on one foot
Human Sacrifice
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[@YellowProductions]

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[@abdelrahmanelghandour3057]

Hey, did you make the rental car video? or not yet?

[@pakistanis1782]

This was great, I been tryin to find out about "how to find the cheapest flight tickets" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Beyarper Peyameron Process - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some incredible things about it and my work buddy got cool results with it.

[@mihai2860]

Many thanks, I've been looking for "where can you get alerts on cheap flights" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Beyarper Peyameron Process - (just google it ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my buddy got great success with it.

[@srbijapodlupom9907]

Winner of a video, I been tryin to find out about "how to book cheap flight" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Beyarper Peyameron Process - (search on google ) ? Ive heard some great things about it and my mate got great results with it.

[@jananusic208]

Just wonderful, I've been looking for "tips when buying flight tickets" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Beyarper Peyameron Process - (search on google ) ? Ive heard some amazing things about it and my friend got excellent success with it.

[@MerelMystery]

As someone who works for an airline, my biggest tip is to book via the airline's website. Often it's just a bit more expensive. That way, you can contact them for service. Many travel agents are very hard to reach or offer bad service. If you book via a travel agent, they are in charge of your booking. We, as airline, are not allowed to help you.

[@reneecollin2460]

Good site ! As a former Gate agent & Flight Attendant, I often tell people to book a "one-way " ticket (in each direction) or check for another "departure " city to flight out of. Some airports have higher landing fees, so if you live 30-50miles away from your home city , it may be cheaper to just DRIVE and fly out of the other city (for a cheaper flight), and if possible become friends with an airline employee! The "buddy passes" are great!!

[@plumeria8357]

Thanks so much! What great info! I am now signed up with Kayak Explore and look forward to traveling more. Thank you.

[@vlogsbts3622]

I love your videos very informative.

[@KaoV1983]

Great advise! Thank you

[@smartie065]

Very helpful👍🏻Great video...very clear. Thanks for sharing😊

[@NostalgiaMan]

I was looking up cheap airfare tips and here you are !!! Thank god they recognize talent

[@YellowProductions]

Nice!

[@kellyl5349]

This is so helpful and informative! Thank you!

[@jekesh__]

Very useful , just planing for book switzerland tickets . Thank You . Love form India 💐💐

[@2Travelis2Live]

This is some good information. :)

[@travellounge396]

Thanks for the tips. Great Video

[@EyeOfScrutiny]

Great advice! Thanks.

[@danielonn2002]

We booked LEVEL Iberia for $280 from SFO-BCN for a cruise and then $148 from TPA-SJC on Southwest as we are going on a Trans Atlantic Cruise with a Med Cruise too. The LEVEL fare includes checked luggage and if you request a special meal like the Kosher meal they don't charge extra! I got a window and aisle seat in the mini cabin! It works well(:

[@Fsilva0413]

Best video here thanks man

[@fredmjohnson183]

Good job brother and thank you very much for your help stay safe.

[@khadi8424]

These are some really good tips! Thanks! 💕

[@YellowProductions]

My pleasure K Hadi!

[@elgee8386]

I'm going to Oklahoma at the end of the month, and found it was cheaper to fly into Dallas (Love Field) rent a car and drive there! I love road trips, so it works well for me!

[@aminamouchtahi8680]

Amazing video!! Thank you

[@TangerineTravels]

Lots of great information here! I've never really used Kayak as much of a flight search tool, so I'll have to give that a try. Do you usually try to book with one airline alliance so you can earn status with them?

[@YellowProductions]

Yes... I'm a Star Alliance flyer... and I bank all my miles in United. That's how I passed a million miles on United for lifetime status last year

[@bradddahwaz]

I found that booking a flight during the months of May and September (slow months) has some awesome deals, saved me hundreds the last 3 trips. Signing up for the fare alerts (as mentioned) is a huge help. Btw your videos are very informative and helpful, keep it up!

[@YellowProductions]

Thanks Benjamin for the kind words and extra tips on the slow months!

[@txchpr1986]

This is true. Another great time to travel is in January when Christmas and New Years are over and most people have spent their extra income.

[@sonle6748]

thanks for your tips

[@kirbiemallek2762]

I just wanted to say thank you for the tip checking to see if two one way tickets would be cheaper than round trip. Well I did that and got a steal. Never would have thought to try that.

[@YellowProductions]

Excellent!

[@manuelferis6954]

Someone told me about that but I was like what okay but I guess I gotta try that next time

[@chinmayjoshi6824]

Just in time for my Fl trip. Hoping you will help me save $$$ Chris.. Haven't watched it yet, but will soon.

[@ShakelaShakela__]

You made my first trip to Vegas amazing!!! Saved me soooo much money! You now have a loyal subscriber! I tell everyone about you. Please never stop making videos

[@YellowProductions]

Aww.. thanks Kela! Welcome to Yellow Productions and thanks for spreading the word!

[@BlackRaven156]

This is amazing! Thank you!

[@YellowProductions]

Thanks BlackRaven!

[@melissahorn6091]

I always find more options and good fares when I book direct with the airline.

[@KJ-gp4tt]

Great tips! ✈️

[@YellowProductions]

Thanks m kla!

[@sujaybshah]

Best video on how to book cheap tickets. Nicely explained

[@YellowProductions]

Thanks Sujay!

[@ExploreTravelTV]

great stuff! I do a lot of researching for sure, websites and travel agents. We booked a trip to Rome to get on a cruise, We booked it with an agent and then kept checking on our own and found a round trip for about $400 less per person. called out agent and they got it for us, (less than 24 hours so we could cancel the other)

[@kiky.mp4]

thank you so much for the subtitles! not a lot of youtubers care about hard-of-hearing people and/or non-native speaker...

[@YellowProductions]

My pleasure Rizky!

[@telisah9611]

I am neither of those categories and still appreciate the written out text. 😁

[@cookie13yaar]

Very good knowledge, really helpful. Thank you sir

[@YellowProductions]

Thanks J!

[@sashanicole7951]

Good job my guy 💋💜

[@ELFAMVLOGS]

Very helpful. I love all of your videos. We had a family trip in Hawaii and one of your videos have helped me decide on whats best for the trip. Thanks.

[@YellowProductions]

Thanks Pinay!

[@ELFAMVLOGS]

Of course, just continue what you’re doing you have helped lots of people and I’m one of those. Thanks.

[@dezanicleaver2682]

Your the man as always. 🤙🏼

[@LaBiblioGeek]

Thanks for the tips. Really helpful ! :) I hate connecting flights though. I can barely go through one landing, because it hurts my ears so badly, two landings ? Forget it, I would drop dead lol. Anyway time is money :p

[@yelisbetlucero9955]

Love the tips! I went to Tokyo from LA for $398 back in November booked our tickets like 9 months in advance!

[@YellowProductions]

Good deal!

[@TheMeloettaful]

Me personally that still sounds like a lot of money, BUT considering this is to Tokyo from the US that is still a good deal regardless! Definitely not as expensive as I thought it would be. I could definitely pay that for a chance to go to Tokyo or anywhere else in Japan! It's my dream vacation to be honest 😌.

[@yelisbetlucero9955]

@@TheMeloettaful yes and it was round trip! Did have a layover in China for a few hours and we couldn't step outside of the airport or we would have been arrested 😅😅

[@rastapasang.1877]

Thanks, man for your useful information. It really helped me!

[@YellowProductions]

Glad it helped!

[@Melissa2087]

I'm going to need these tips. I need to book airline tickets to Colorado as well as London and Paris for this year.

[@Leo-uy4qv]

Can I come with u ;)

[@harmonyln7]

I've been looking for flights from the UK to America and agree kind of with what you say about booking from a different city. I've been looking on expedia and it's cheaper to search for flights from Gatwick than Heathrow. Also I notice can be cheaper to do a weird detour through Canada than going straight to America.

[@JITT3RBUG]

Thank you so much for sharing all these tips. FYI I had the best deals booking flight like 11 months before.

[@coolguyforever4678]

Im going to tell my mom thx bro

[@scottman895]

I thought standing on one foot would work! Oh well, just kidding! Anyway, thank you for the tips! There are quite a few which I have not heard of. The 12-6 week one is definitely one which I need to keep in mind the most.

[@YellowProductions]

Now standing on your head... That might work :)

[@lillyclimintime9797]

This is so usefull

[@hgman3920]

I live equidistant between two hub airports, with a smaller regional airport closer by. When I book, I always check the prices from all three to my destination. Sometimes, the regional airport will surprise me and actually offer the best fares, but if I can save $200+ dollars per ticket by driving an extra 45 minutes to the hub, I'll do it. Even an additional $50/ticket really starts to add up when taking a family vacation with a family of 4. I also check my near my destination to see if there are alternative airports to fly into. Adding a little bit of drive time at either end of the flight can really save big money.

[@yuchingfass4422]

Hey we go to Taiwan regularly as well! Thanks for sharing your tips😎

[@YellowProductions]

Thanks Yuching!

[@phillyblacklite]

Thanks for the info

[@andrewthacker114]

Good information

[@YellowProductions]

Thanks Andrew!

[@danielonn2002]

I booked First Class r/t SJC LAX on Alaska for my Feb 22 cruise at $208. It's $20 less than booking Coach with my luggage and I may need a 2nd bag. I got my preferred seat 1A, it includes Lounge Access on Alaska

[@geenacastellanos4778]

Thank you for this! I am looking for my trip that will be in 5-6 months. Do you recommend buying now or waiting 12 weeks before to see if they go on super sale?

[@YellowProductions]

If the prices look reasonable to you then buy now... Better to have a reasonable price locked in than wait for cheap.. but then they go up

[@sulaymanbarrow7369]

Skyscanner and Momondo beats them all !

[@norkagonzalez3408]

This is just superb, I been tryin to find out about "best way to get cheap flight tickets" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Beyarper Peyameron Process - (search on google ) ? Ive heard some incredible things about it and my m8 got cool results with it.

[@veltro205]

I wish I could go to Tokyo, favorite place next to Kauai

[@josephc28]

Check out Skyscanner website.

[@eimaanali8473]

I was born in Norway but I came to the US when I was only one! Now I am 11 and I really really want to go!

[@panedole]

Winner of a video, I been tryin to find out about "cheap flight tricks" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Beyarper Peyameron Process - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now ) ? Ive heard some decent things about it and my brother in law got excellent success with it.

[@eimaanali8473]

Guess what? I got great news! I am going to Norway over the Summer!

[@grif13]

Good tips Chris. Aren'et Hidden City type of flights really discouraged by the airlines? I recall that recently a traveler was banned from flying with that airline for over using this technique. Also, I've gotten grunts from airline personnel when I booked round trip using two one way flights.

[@YellowProductions]

Thanks Mike! Yes... they are indeed discouraged by airlines... but two one ways... nothing they can do about that

[@emanuelly6174]

I’m going to be going on a trip and I’m curious how the bundle (flight, hotel, car) goes? Im not asking how to set up but how it goes in terms of when you get off the plane does the hotel pick up, how do you get the rental car that you bundled? Please help.

[@aryster9233]

Thanks so much i got a cheap ticket from south america to new york for 175!

[@YellowProductions]

Good deal!

[@michaelkrummel2071]

I saw a video of someone who looked up a cheap price from Denver to Las Vegas for $89. It included an interaction fee. He went to the airport to book the flight for $47.60 No interaction fee. He said he thinks the fee is to book on the internet.

[@sueannbarnhart2709]

I have never flown but will be flying every weekend from Saturday to Monday night or early Tuesday morning from st.louis to Orlando any tips on getting good prices on tickets

[@Leo-uy4qv]

Frontier and allegiant are cheapest , sometimes i have to book one way and find my way back with other airlines

[@cesaralvarez8050]

What time would best to buy tickets to Orlando? Never been on a plane or flown out of la

[@danielonn2002]

Picked up a sale on Southwest from SJ to Vegas $87 r/t down from $97 for this October plus used their COVID changes to make my trip 11 nights.

[@YellowProductions]

Good deal!

[@danielonn2002]

@@YellowProductions Its all about flexibility.(:

[@sambaitesh5575]

yes, I find the best flight booking deals.

[@timdaugherty5921]

Just today I booked a round trip direct flight from Atlanta to London for June 2020 for only $553~Cheapest I have ever seen that low

[@smartie065]

What website if you can share with us please😊

[@MultiCrazycaroline]

Tim Daugherty what website did you use?

[@2cool4mymom]

Oh this did not age well 😢

[@mikestone5904]

Your vids are fantastic! Are you doing any more on Vegas?

[@YellowProductions]

Yup! I'll have the Vegas Mistakes video in a couple weeks

[@themasterzman1172]

@@YellowProductions Perfect timing for my upcoming June trip

[@ianhenley3943]

yes

[@ianhenley3943]

I understand

[@craighardiman144]

The last three times I’ve travelled to the USA, we like to travel premium economy. I have generally found The way to get the best deal on premium economy is to book as early as you can, or when the fares first released

[@YellowProductions]

Thanks for the tip Craig!

[@Idellle]

For Europeans use Bonusway and Pins cashback system.

[@themasterzman1172]

Awesome tips. I just learned of skiplagged and booking hidden cities recently. Go pound sand airlines! So what is their recourse if they create a profile on you?

[@YellowProductions]

Thanks. The airline could say they no longer want your business and refuse to sell you anymore tickets on their airline. This is pretty rare.. but it does happen.

[@ianhenley3943]

Wow

[@ianhenley3943]

Need to stay in touch

[@TheAustralianHealthShow]

are there any cheap flights for Americans from LA to Brisbane?

[@MrBaldy3d]

Great information, I gift you a billion mile on wow airlines 😩

[@YellowProductions]

Woohoo! I'm rich! :)

[@evangelinemactal7770]

What is the best day to buy cheaper fare thanks

[@Divalish.]

Can you elaborate on hidden city tickets, im a bit confused? Are you saying book from point A to point B with a layover, and the layover is the actual destination you'd like to fly to, so it was cheaper to book from point A to B but technically you getting off at "your destination" which is the "layover"/btwn point of A & B? Is that why u suggested not checking in luggage?

[@YellowProductions]

That's the essence of it

[@Divalish.]

@@YellowProductions thank you for your speedy response & clarity. You made a new subbie 💛💛💛💛🌟

[@karenccs67]

We want to go to Hawaii from London in September 2020, when’s the best time to book flights?

[@mattjakob8838]

Listen up guys. Reach out to webghost33 on skype for the cheapest travel tickets - any class. He's a hacking agent who specially deals with reducing costs of travel package. For a roundtrip budget, i spent almost half the usual amount when i went on vacation to Berlin in July. So this xmas, i recommend yall to give this a trial. webghost33cyberservicescom

[@makaylasmanifestations]

Karen Fraser now😂😂😂

[@zhypontanar4055]

How about Philippines to Utah Salt Lake?

[@christina.m135]

London to Athens:114€ .... London to Berlin:28€ 3 hours later, Berlin to Athens:33€ (London to Athens:61€ 😉)

[@elizabethfalcon]

skiplagged sen me to Travolie is it safe?

[@Idellle]

Old video but I live in Finland and sometimes Finnair is cheaper than Norwegian. I think both are not acctually budget airlines. SAS is expensive to fly with from Helsinki. Helsinki airport have good flights to Asia

[@YellowProductions]

Thanks for the tip!

[@dayanosorio7091]

Las vegas.

[@sibongileewohime4908]

I’m looking for international flight to SouthAfrica Durban

[@martinhodge3864]

Who gives thumbs down on these videos? Geez :( These videos are great!

[@YellowProductions]

Thanks Martin!

[@formulaonefanme6133]

Wow ❔

[@daveygivens735]

I guess if you're unemployed, flying standby works. But who can spend all day hanging around an airport gate hoping to get on board?

[@paulshearing8856]

We Europeans who have decent amount of paid holidays

[@AlejandroVidalesAller]

For me, customer service is above a cheap flight. I rather pay a little extra but knowing that my flight will go on the day I wanted and about the time I wanted.

[@YellowProductions]

We think alike then! :)

[@paigeharlow9471]

Not everyone can afford an extra $300+ though. Be grateful you have the privilege to “pay a little extra”. Most people can’t even afford to fly, let alone paying full price.

[@hugoramos4841]

I found a really good deal on the kayak app but it doesn't really let me do anything with it, the app keeps telling me I'm a bot.

[@richardmccarley4141]

Didn't WOW airlines just fold?

[@PherretPhil13]

Yes, yes they did.

[@YellowProductions]

That's what I get for shooting a video and taking 2 weeks to edit it.. airlines go out of business! :)

[@PherretPhil13]

Well, considering some of the horror stories and my own personal experiences with them (plane change turned my larger, cushier, more legroom seat into a simple economy seat without any compensation) I'm not surprised.

[@henrymcelroy3915]

Use google matrix

[@clarkiepenney4388]

If time of day does not matter why do the ticket prices go up as you book your departure later in the day?

[@YellowProductions]

Because more people book the later in the day tickets... So as more people book a flight, the prices for the remaining tickets go up.. but the price itself isn't based on the time.. it's based on the route and fare classes available. So those afternoon flights likely had all their cheap fare classes taken up earlier

[@christopherlogsdon1628]

Most people have a specific place to go to people don’t just travel randomly

[@frednich9603]

Did you really say wow air? They went belly-up last week

[@YellowProductions]

Yes. In my defense I shot this video 1 week before WOW air went bankrupt. In hindsight probably not a good suggestion

[@frednich9603]

Haha, gotcha. Good video though!

[@wendyzumbro4167]

Yellow products @@YellowProductions

[@dam4274]

I saw the hacker fare but there was only a 54 minute layover to change planes! Not nearly long enough to be safe.

[@goutvols103]

DAM8658 A little tight but you can also check on which gate you're connecting flight is located; hopefully in the same terminal.

[@crowbarmark]

Didn't someone recently get arrested or fined for not taking the connecting flight?

[@jadi1015]

Yes in Europe

[@YellowProductions]

Probably dont do it in Europe then :)

[@brucekingfield8439]

I think they sued the passenger. The airline wasn’t successful. The court said that the passenger had breached the contract, however the airline’s dilemma was damages. How did they calculate them? Essentially they pulled a number out of the air so there was no loss to the airline.

[@ompatel7761]

Does that man got a dent on nose

[@xxjazzycraftxx8213]

I was going to sub until I saw you recommending Hidden City ticketing. I hate when people do this with no consideration for the potential delay for the other 800 passengers.

[@YellowProductions]

For what it's worth I'm not "recommending" it.. which is why I said it was more of a hack than a tip. I've certainly never done it.. but I know there are people that do. I included it more for completeness than anything else

[@xxjazzycraftxx8213]

Fair enough. It's a pet peeve of mine. Several times I've had extended delays due to these selfish tightwads. A delay of 15-20 mins while we wait just in case they are delayed in the bathroom or Duty Free can lead to huge delays waiting for a new take off slot to open up as well as a new landing time at the next destination.

[@PhilipOberg]

Do you purchase the cheapest advertised fare? I just booked flights and instead of getting the cheapest fare with no changes or cancellations, I upgraded to a more expensive ticket to allow changes or cancellations for a fee.

[@YellowProductions]

Depends on the airline and restrictions.. I NEVER buy the "basic economy" fares that don't allow for seat assignments

[@PhilipOberg]

@@YellowProductions if I don't pay for assigned seating, will my party (girlfriend, 6y/o child, & myself) be seated together still? Assigned seating was about another $275 round trip... Btw I'm flying from YXY-FLL about 9.5 hrs flying time. Fact is that it's never that cheap to fly out of Northern Canada, it's just something we have to deal with and accept living this far north.

[@telisah9611]

@@PhilipOberg SOME airlines and patrons will take pity on you and give up their seats to let you sit together. If you can't chance that, buy the seat selection.

[@PhilipOberg]

@@telisah9611 thanks for the reply... So I never did get seat selection, I didn't want to pay the extra. We (girlfriend, daughter and I) were all seated next to each other and all was good

[@methemonkeyking]

Telisa Holmes: agree. My wife and I were returning home to the States from the Philippines and they gave us seating tickets a mile apart. Since then, we only purchase tickets with assigned seats.

[@JockesNik]

im recently thinking in going from central america (nicaragua) to be precise to japan in a trip with a couple friends. but i got a question maybe you can help me to solve this one or anyone else who is used to travel a lot. we were thinking to buy first class tickets to japan. but a lot of our stops in the flight to japan are just like 1-3 hours flights so we were thinking to buy just thefirst class seats for "long trip" (LAX or NY to Japan airport, those type of flights for more thn 8 hours or something like that). but like we said we are not experts and many of the websites we were searching they just give you the whole trip as first or businness class my question is how we can do that or tis posibble to do it? its better to buy other seats and try to upgrade them in a diferent place or what can we do?

[@YellowProductions]

Generally airline tickets are sold in a class of service from origin to destination.. I don't really know of any airlines that will sell you split class tickets like that

[@benjaminc6522]

Hidden city ticket, not able to understand. Pls explain a little bit..

[@goutvols103]

Utilizing Hidden City tickets should not be considered a good tip. Airlines have gone after the individual ticket holder to make a point against future abuse.

[@paigeharlow9471]

This has only happened twice and all they did was ban them from the airline. And the only reason they were caught was because they did it very very frequently. Like weekly or a few times a month and they also used their frequent flier numbers. That’s how they got caught. As long as you only do hidden city tickets no more than once a month or once every other month and don’t use your membership account, you will be fine. It is also not illegal so, you won’t get into legal trouble. They will only ban you from said airline.

[@ianhenley3943]

Chris I want to talk. What cheaper! Ian jt p