15-Yr-Old Girl KILLED While Running To Police For Help, Officers BLAME THE VICTIM: Olayemi Olurin

Movement lawyer, Olayemi Olurin, weighs in on the death of alleged kidnapping victim 15-year-old Savannah Graziano, who was shot and killed as she ran towards police officers. #police #shooting
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[@skaughtsmith]

The police failed this little girl. Their main goal should have been to save the child from her psycho dad. So instead of backing off and following at a safe distance they engage in a shootout while pursuing them aggressively. Anyone with a brain can see that these tactics had a very slim chance of ending with a positive outcome.

[@theprecipiceofreason]

The police didn't fail her. They killed her. Killed.

[@christerry1773]

Just keep following at a safe distance huh? Till…?? Runs out of gas! Accelerates?…give us your expertise.

[@kmora7360]

There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@ARedMotorcycle]

@christerry1773 How's that boot taste?

[@markjacob7752]

I'll save everyone some time, "we've investigated ourselves and have found no wrong doing" Catch you at the next police shooting!

[@yvonnewood7757]

IKR!

[@lowtdave]

While investigating, we will place our police officers on paid vacation, I mean leave until the investigation is over.

[@dianadowie3985]

These Police Officers are so incredibly incompetent! Then they lied on the kidnapped victim!

[@kmora7360]

There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@YouTubeHandle42069]

"look there's the missing girl!" cop 1 "Don't worry we won't miss her!" cop 2

[@pmberkeley]

Last man standing, eh Robby? How many more hosts will Rising cancel? Somebody in the higher reaches is trying to sabotage the show, aren't they?

[@jamesdrake2378]

he'll be cut in the near term

[@jonny5143]

Agreed, this show has gone full ret@rd at this point

[@Eerielai]

Who did they cancel last? Katie, or has there been another?

[@danny_chestnut253]

@@Eerielai they fired briahna too

[@Eerielai]

@@danny_chestnut253 Whaaat, why???

[@gab31282]

As always the police with all their guns felt threatened by this 15 yr teen girl.

[@dogdog8950]

The new woke police are so brave, so brave... SMDH 🤯

[@kmora7360]

There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@HTownCharlieBrown]

No one is held to a lesser standard than the police

[@HTownCharlieBrown]

@samford hikes Sorry.... I don't believe in the left vs right scam. I recognize that both fraudulent parties are totally and shamelessly corrupt. You just like the corruption of one over the other. Funny.

[@bubbaandrayearl1678]

School teacher

[@HTownCharlieBrown]

@@bubbaandrayearl1678 Absurd. But you already know that.

[@wiz_kid]

Wait how do you drive a car and get in a gunfight with a rifle I'm just confused on how the police decided to engage the vehicle they knew this young girl was in by rittling it with bullets. That's before she gets out and tries to run to safety

[@ksolo614]

The police are obviously lying

[@mhicaoidh1]

Firing a rifle that is small and light (if you aren't worried too much about accuracy) while driving a vehicle isn't hard.

[@adamguerrero5293]

@@mhicaoidh1 sounds like you've done it before 🤣😂

[@PB-or2fd]

Simple, they're cowards. Just like Uvalde.

[@kmora7360]

Wiz KID, Indeed

[@lightstar1053]

being kidnapped then shot by the people who were supposed to rescue you is crazy

[@dogdog8950]

The new woke police are so brave, so brave... SMDH 🤯

[@kmora7360]

There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@zufalllx]

"when the only tool you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail." We need to start handing out less hammers to the cops. They obviously don't know how to use them responsibly.

[@jackgranger6539]

You obviously don't ever watch any bodycams and hist repeat nonsense....good job??👍

[@erikkovacs3097]

Yeah we need to hand out flowers instead of guns. That’ll work out real well.

[@coryascott]

Batya would find a way to spin this to say police need more money

[@willis7404]

If only Batya was here to explain why police are actually amazing

[@SuperSano19]

I've watched hundreds of bodycam videos from police on youtube and majority of them show the police behavior is amazingly horrible. You should watch the video of the group of Miami police that just got indicted for what they did inside a hotel lobby to an innocent by stander.

[@willis7404]

@@SuperSano19 I agree with you haha, i think the sarcasm was missed in my post. The other day Batya was trashing Cori Bush for maintaining her position on defund the police while acknowledging many of the reasons why the defund the police slogan was popular in the first place lol. I think defund is a bad political slogan because pro cop ppl ran that to the extreme, but I don't think anyone can see the level of incompetence demonstrated by the police force today and assume that everything is fine and we should raise their salary and provide them with military style equipment to continue terrorizing communities and further destroying public trust

[@SuperSano19]

@@willis7404 You April Fooled me. LoL

[@DarkPassenger]

Instead we've got this chick who thinks criminals aren't guilty of anything ever.

[@michaelneufeld4515]

@@DarkPassenger is that really what you think she believes?

[@theprecipiceofreason]

Olayemi Olurin is always on point. She knows that skepticism is necessary with police shootings. Parroting what the police claim always has the danger of promoting murders by the police.

[@willisverynice]

“She’s taught, like everybody else in this society, to trust police.” Are we sure about that?

[@RobotRockRod]

yes, thats what we are thought... like literally every network TV show is "cops r awesome" hour.

[@PB-or2fd]

Yes, it cost her her life.

[@whm_w8833]

That’s not what 2020 says

[@VogtTD]

Yes. Are you daft?

[@n.e.7647]

Trust the police. Trust the media. Trust the politicians. Trust the experts. This is what we hear everyday.

[@S3BAST1AN696]

My money is that the father knew that he was gonna go down that road and wanted to protect the daughter although he kidnaped her from her mother and if she was wearing any body armor I would say that was why. HOWEVER This shoot first ask question later is unacceptable, they know this was a kidnapping scenario, they knew they where unarmed civilina in the line of fire. Unacceptable, that as well as the culture of firing 3 full mág into everyone in every ocatión has to stop

[@suelancaster6959]

The cops didn't shoot first

[@stevetoth7136]

What's the difference between killing with 3 full mags or one bullet?

[@fascistpedant758]

If he wanted to protect her he would have peacefully surrendered.

[@waystaff76]

They said tactical gear, which doesn't necessarily mean body armor. I have some serious questions here and I really hope that there's either dash or body cam footage to get a better understanding.

[@pmberkeley]

@@suelancaster6959 the girl didn't shoot first.

[@heatherbaker8596]

If the cops couldn't recognise her by her stature, then there is something very wrong, she is clearly going to have a smaller build than a grown man.

[@anthonytwohill9726]

I guess even the cops won't assume gender, or age, or notice the differences between a 5 foot 2 inch person with long flowing hair, etc and an adult male with short hair.

[@kmora7360]

There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@kinkisharyocoasters]

Same with Tamir Rice

[@thereareclouds1721]

You know all that COULD have been understandable. Wearing tactical gear, middle of a gun fight.... But they had to say that she had a gun and was firing, too.

[@wiz_kid]

Yep, they had to be dishonest. Anyone could imagine a father with tactical gear putting it on his daughter in a gunfight. What blows my mind is it the police engaged in a gunfight knowing she was in the car. Once they started shooting at that moving vehicle, they had completely disregarded her life.

[@Mr-214]

Reminds me of the fed ex driver that was trying to get away from the shootout between the guys who stole his truck and the police

[@PB-or2fd]

@@Mr-214 100%

[@PB-or2fd]

@@wiz_kid They lie more than politicians.

[@dogdog8950]

@@wiz_kid The new woke police are so brave, so brave... SMDH 🤯

[@ihitafel]

So sick of their incompetence and constant lies. In broad daylight. How can they get it soooo wrong. If your in a life and death situation......you don't call the police cause they will make it worse and cover it up. "NO WRONG DOING"..... AS ALWAYS

[@DeusMors]

I'm under the impression that they are trained to be a paramilitary these days. What I mean is they are trying to survive and accomplish the mission instead of protect and serve. That's what a soldier does not a peacekeeping officer. Just look at the kind of gear they've been getting since the Gulf War. The solution is for people to be honest about what they're doing and change for the better instead of doing the same thing over and over again.

[@marty3015]

Thats exactly how they are trained, they are literally told that THEM getting home safely at the end of the day is the most important thing. Its not even accomplishing the mission is the most important thing, THEY are the most important thing, its really gross. Ryan Grim did a really good segment on it a few months ago before he left.

[@buttercup3ish]

yes jason..scary for the innocent..we have no chance.. even with hands up or on steering wheel

[@ouknow1446]

The Israeli military trains many departments here and abroad. So our cops now treat us like the Israelis treat the Palestinians.

[@buttercup3ish]

@@ouknow1446 insightful and scary

[@ouknow1446]

@@buttercup3ish Indeed

[@clarajupiter5675]

But it doesn’t matter what she was wearing They knew who was in the car and for what And have de descriptions on the girl

[@kmora7360]

Clara Jupiter Indeed MORE THAN ONE GROSS NEGLIGENCE GROSS NEGLIGENCE ACROSS THE BOARD FAILURE TO PROVIDE PROTECTION FAILURE TO ADHERE TO PROTOCOL TRAINING TARGET IDENTIFICATION GROSS FAILURE There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@fmcdomer]

why was she wearing helmet and tactical gear? even then if all shes doing is running toward the cop for help.. why shoot her unarmed?

[@PB-or2fd]

Fire first, lie later.

[@stevetoth7136]

Yes the police made sure everyone was dead. That's what the goal was, great commentary Oleyami. That was the goal of LE to make sure the whole family not part was wiped out. Def no other factors involved. Genius commentary Oleyami.

[@randys6220]

That is exactly what happened dum dum.

[@tomcampbell4880]

that way there is no one left to file a lawsuit.

[@bobbyguest3906]

Thank you, The Hill !! I'm sick of trigger happy cops that are all too happy to shoot first and then asking questions later, ... that are irrelevant !!!

[@MikeA817]

The bad apple argument is not a good one because the fact that there's way more bad apples than one off officers. 5-10% of cops given a psych test in Alameda, CA, had their weapons and LE powers taken from them. They are allowed to retest in 2 months which is likely insufficient for correcting the ideological/psychological issues that prompted sidelining them from performing LE duties. What this means is that with this study extrapolated, there is way too many cops on the street that shouldn't be allowed to be cops. This is why it's a systemic problem and not "just a few bad apples." That 5-10% comes out to about as high as 45,000 to 90,000 "bad apples" in America as of 2022.

[@jackgranger6539]

Except its statistically less than 1% soooo...🤷‍♂️ you're a liar and a bot

[@kmora7360]

Mike A Thank you for facts and data. There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@Ninjasqrlgirl]

I remember when this happened. Before they ended up in this shoot out, the police issued an AMBER ALERT because they were informing the public to rescue her.

[@xmalcom650]

The police officers should have waited to see a weapon first. Even holding a weapon while running at police doesn't justify deadly force. If she had raised the gun and the police had noticed a muzzle flash then deadly force would be appropriate.

[@Semelem]

Never trust the police, always go the opposite direction, you’re better off fending for yourself

[@myHDscoot]

This is why law abiding citizens stop calling police.

[@tomcampbell4880]

yep, calling the police can only make whatever situation you are in worse.

[@kinkisharyocoasters]

Right wingers will have you believe that police can black people from being victims of other blacks. How is that gonna happen when so many African-Americans rightfully have a hard time trusting the cops?

[@bmoondi1]

Oleyemi: cops are bad apples, criminals are Aladdin… Neither is true The world is grey

[@cuomosrevenge947]

are you an aiu fan?

[@ZachMorris2035]

spot on, so many people especially now want to look at everything in Black and White and they refuse to acknowledge any gray area it's pathetic.

[@doctordrabs]

She is just grifter/race baiter

[@RobotRockRod]

Was it just the bad apples that released the statement saying the little girl was shooting at them?

[@hrs2044]

She actually never says either of those things.

[@ZealousSoul2012]

How could the father have been driving the vehicle and shooting the rifle at the police. There is more to be discovered here.

[@Theblacklibtard]

Thousands of Americans literally drive with their knees while scarfing down a big Mac and you find it hard to believe that someone can’t shoot a gun while driving? Also, maybe it wasn’t a rifle gun residue with only found on his hands so yeah

[@mhicaoidh1]

It's not difficult to pilot a vehicle and shoot a rifle at the same time. Just rest the fore end on the door with the window rolled down. Will you suffer in accuracy? Of course. But bullets are still flying.

[@michaelneufeld4515]

Anything to blame the victim.

[@DarkPassenger]

@@michaelneufeld4515 How is he blaming the victim when asking for all the details before he forms an opinion....? You know like any rational person does. We've seen this time after time with these incidents. You all jump to conclusions and then the details and evidence come out and it's completely different from what the lawyers, activists, and family members are saying. This woman has no idea what happened, and she's speaking as if it's facts.

[@scurvy77777]

Always run From the police.

[@yodieyuh6077]

There are tens of millions of police encounters in the USA every year. The vast majority of those people encountering police did not run and yet they lived. Why should I always run from cops?

[@ouknow1446]

Then they shoot you in the back.

[@fascistpedant758]

Common sense would dictate that she ly on the ground after exiting the car but you can't blame a 15 year old girl for the actions she chose.

[@hrs2044]

Common sense would also dictate that when trying to rescue a kidnapped little girl from her grown up father, you don't shoot at the 5'2 figure that's running towards you from the vehicle. Most likely that's not the dad 🤷‍♂️

[@PB-or2fd]

But you just did...

[@fascistpedant758]

@@PB-or2fd I don't think I did, but maybe my comment wasn't simple enough for you.

[@nosender2399]

@@fascistpedant758 The simplicity of your comment rejects critical thought. Common sense would dictate that the father was driving the vehicle, therefore not exiting from the passenger side. Common sense would dictate that they consider the physical descriptions given to them, knowing her father is much taller than 5'2", so the person running toward them couldnt have been him. Common sense would dictate that when you're running from an abductor who just killed your mother that you run for your life toward safety. Common sense would dictate that there was enough space between them and the girl that if the police considered any one of these things for even one second, they could've saved her instead of killing her.

[@fascistpedant758]

@@nosender2399 The passenger may have been someone other than her. Maybe she was wearing tall shoes. Maybe the father isn't much taller. Maybe she was difficult to identify dressed as she was. You're assuming a lot. Everyone knows that the cops are trigger happy and trained to protect themselves first and foremost. Running toward them in such a situation is obviously extremely dangerous.

[@Alisdair_UK]

Glad to see Olayemi back on Rising. Also pleased to see Robbie do this piece. How much research BEYOND reading other reporter's reporting went in to this? There's so much cross-contamination in the news that I have little trust for the news if not researched first hand. Even then... the facts, don't always survive being presented without the political bias of the news organisation.

[@kmora7360]

There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@vinnie_talks_sht7316]

I see the old haters are back for Olayemi, but I don't see Briahna. Where's Briahna, the other lawyer who has great takes on this particular issue? We're just not gonna talk about it I guess?

[@s.n.9485]

Probably on vacation

[@danielkoster4373]

They did save the girl they shot her dead. She sure wont be kidnaped again. Great job

[@ericsmith9547]

This story is disgusting, and the fact that there are comments on her even attempting to try and Justify this action. You people are horrible.

[@kmora7360]

There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@rogeredson8709]

we investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing.

[@OneWildTurkey]

SBCSD Deputies are really touchy unless they've had their morning routine at Winchell's Donuts. They're known as Sheriff's Office Boys for a reason. The acronym is used more often. Their rep goes back decades.

[@jpmountaingaming5681]

She was in tactical gear, 100 meters away, and was running at police in the middle of a firefight without her hands up. The cops didn’t know if she had a gun, were being shot at and as such, reacted to a perceived threat. If you want to blame someone for her death, how about you all blame the father who put his own daughter in this situation, murdered her mother, and started a firefight with police.

[@amyc7467]

Why was she wearing tactical gear? How many teens even own tactical gear? Is it possible the girl killed her mother? Was Dad actually trying to help her escape? Why would he have her in gear and not himself? If she was raised by the kind of guy who would shoot his wife, it's early in the investigation to declare her a sane and innocent bystander. It really sucks that cops never really know what they are walking into. Police are rarely called to protect, "The guy in tactical gear," who is just riding along with the guy who has fired several bullets into their cars. Did they really have evidence that the girl was not ducked in the back seat like a normal kidnap victim? Pay attention to Allegedly!

[@LeoBaker-ir3vo]

If a cop is speaking, we must assume they are lying. There are absolutely zero consequences for them when they get caught lying. So they are incentivized to lie about absolutely everything all the time.

[@genepitts4665]

When people generalize in this manner, they do a disservice to themselves and all around them.

[@brianbenjamin653]

Generalize how?

[@dugw15]

This is super sad. At face value, it seems like it MIGHT be an understandable mistake. There's gunfire coming from the car, and the police are firing back. Someone gets out of the car, and the police fire at them. The police should have had in their minds throughout the whole ordeal "There's an innocent in that car. Our aim is to protect and rescue her." And if someone gets out of the car, wait to see who it is. What the MIGHT have had in their minds instead is simply "Get the bad guy!" And the presence of an innocent became incidental in their minds to what they're doing. So when she gets out, they think "Get the bad guy!" because they just weren't thinking of her. Maybe something like that happened. When you're being fired at, it seems understandable to me that you might be highly focused on the one firing at you. Understandable is not the same as excusable, though. Seems to me like a better initial response from the police would be, "... Wow. We're so sorry. This is tragic. Our responding officers did the opposite of what they went there to do. Instead of rescuing the young girl, they killed her. We don't yet know how this unfolded. An independent investigation team is looking into it. If any officer or officers acted irresponsibly or against training or against our policies, we'd like to find out and hand down appropriate discipline. Even if it turns out that everything was within training and policy and no discipline is warranted, this shows we may need to revisit and improve our training and policies. We're very sorry about this tragic outcome today. *real tears from the speaker* Independent investigators are looking into it, and we'll have an update for you this time next week, or sooner."

[@quincydread5204]

we are thinking along teh same lines here,, i posted similar just now,,, Im also wondering if its not possible the teen was ok with teh fathers actions.. its not uncommon for teens to hate one parent to that point and be ok with say a father killing the mother.. and then they run together.. I mean im just saying, its not an entirely dismissible scenario/option. Regardless its still a sad situation no matter what the truth/reality is, most of which I bet died with the father and daughter... so we may never know the full story

[@tinchothegreat3743]

Agreed with both of you here too. Everyone is very quick to blame, but we simply don't know yet. Ok, they found only one firearm, but that doesn't mean that the girl didn't take it at some point and shot at them as well. We.don't.know.

[@marty3015]

How did you make that text bold?

[@marty3015]

@@tinchothegreat3743 I'll bet a significant amount of money that she never shot at the cops. She would not have taken her dead dads rifle fired for a while and then dropped it and ran toward them. Cops lie ALL the time. Its what happens when humans have too much authority & power with far too few checks on it.

[@dugw15]

@@marty3015 asterisks on both sides of it

[@Lolaismypoopydog2036]

There has to be a middle ground. Saying that cops are perfect is irresponsible, just as "the police" are trigger happy or are just going around killing people IN GENERAL. There MUST be police reform, as most people agree, but this kind of generalization does nothing to move the country forward

[@jeannieves6275]

Deepest condolences

[@kmora7360]

There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@erikkovacs3097]

Police training is lacking. Frighteningly so.

[@vincei2147]

Driving and shoot back? 🤔 Yeah, no.

[@kmora7360]

AR 57

[@HeatherBey74]

There have been far too many similar incidents all across the United States where children were killed caught in the middle.

[@kmora7360]

There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@jackgranger6539]

Jesus you guys still have olaymi on even after how bad she misrepresented the last police shooting you covered....my god you guys are so bad at your jobs

[@sblatz13]

The hill never has a comprehensive analysis of any police involved incidents. It’s a shane

[@wiltordgunter9539]

Easy to say when your job doesn't require constantly being involved in highly volatile situations. This doesn't excuse what the cops did, to be clear.

[@kmora7360]

There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@olorin1710]

There are far more dangerous jobs with higher accountability than cops. Yet cops get qualified immunity.

[@kinkisharyocoasters]

How come the fire department doesn't act this way when they're also expected to put their lives in danger to protect civilians?

[@wiltordgunter9539]

@@kinkisharyocoasters wanna compare dealing with fire and dealing with human beings ? 🤔 Interesting.

[@LMarkWeeks]

There is a very long history of the police wrongfully shooting people and engaging in cover ups. However, the fact that the police shoot a certain number of people each year is not proof of wrong doing. Olayemi over generalizes, which is surprising given that she is a lawyer and knows full well that the facts of each case need to be examined separately. (Don’t get me wrong. The police need to be held accountable. And the more body cams and cruiser cams put in use make such abuse and cover ups more difficult.) In addition, she is just wrong in saying that police don’t stop crime. Several studies have shown that a greater police presence and more enforcement do in fact reduce crime. That was demonstrated in NYC under both Giuliani and Bloomberg.

[@romanrushing1917]

It literally is uncommon sad but uncommon

[@kmora7360]

There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@connycharleslindstrom6084]

Movement lawyer 🤯

[@jerryjanusz1410]

Thr bravery of American police lately is stagering

[@kmora7360]

Jerry, Indeed

[@realtalkwithmo4674]

The police interact with people over 300,000,000 times across the nation. There will always be mistakes and some fatal. It will always be a flawed system because as humans we are flawed. As long as more then a majority times the law works, you can't get perfection. That's life.

[@jamesdrake2378]

not 300 million

[@realtalkwithmo4674]

@@jamesdrake2378 look it up.

[@jamesdrake2378]

@@realtalkwithmo4674 lazy people expect others to do their work. Thinking people provide sources and citations. Common courtesy is your human flaw.

[@realtalkwithmo4674]

@@jamesdrake2378 thanks, I will take that in consideration.

[@cathypaulino2153]

Except the majority of the time the law Does NOT Work… that’s the point.

[@gregorykadok3356]

No need to speculate...Let's see the body cam.

[@stephenclements5451]

This is extremely concerning. My judgement has often been harsh before all the facts have surfaced... so I've adopted a much more wait and see approach. I did find it strange that the guest suggested that this is common and then sighted an incident from two years ago. If this were truly "common", as in the historical number of murders in our Cities, it would have only garnered the same coverage from the media... which is ZERO!

[@mruncletheredge]

she's one of those highly opinionated, thinks she knows everything blm supporter...... she used to be one of the reporters here on the Hill until they canned her because she couldn't listen. her opinion was always the right opinion... good riddance...

[@maximme]

why didn't the police plant some guns on the bodies ?? this is very common and makes good police practice. I mean how can the police justify the dad DRIVING AND SHOOTING a rifle. Like put 6 guns in the 16 year old body, such that she would look like a female Rambo, etc.

[@joeschmo9953]

Police need training. Current level of training is atrocious. Cutting police budgets is not the answer.

[@kmora7360]

There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@joeschmo9953]

@@kmora7360 ?

[@panagenesis2695]

Terrible. God rest her soul...

[@kmora7360]

There are multiple methods to Organize for Justice For Savannah / Justice For San Bernardino Community Methods: If you are a church member you can begin asking elders: 1) what would you do if a girl from our church was killed this way? 2) What do we do now our community is at risk for this being repeated?

[@traindr12]

Sorry Hill, I won't watch racist Oleyemi...

[@michaelmann5168]

White conservative hates when black woman speaks. Color me shocked!

[@josephjohn907]

Eat rocks

[@jamesvermillion5151]

Without a doubt, neither Robby nor his guest have been in a fire fight. No offense, but dressed as an antagonist, she should have came out hands up and laid down, immediately. I grieve with the family. The Police should have recognized a face down posture, if displayed. But, how do you know that the Police aren't assessing the situation in order to do better in the future. Especially in today's woke anti police atmosphere. What will they say when the Police are being gunned down by gang-bangers during operational situations. You don't say BAE (Danish for), end of excuses. React as you should or expect to become a statistic. Guilty or not, give up and survive.

[@melindasaddler559]

How did he kidnap her when she was living with him? It's just hard for people to believe that a 15 year old would be apart of this. Well, it happens...

[@erikkovacs3097]

We must have the ability to fire entire police forces but government bureaucracies are very entrenched.

[@annasmith8040]

You are the best thing that has happened in my old country.

[@nathannewlin1779]

So they're just ignoring what Robby opened with. The kid was wearing a helmet and plate carrier so she would've been completely unrecognizable when she emerged from the vehicle, from which the officers had just gotten shot at from...

[@ZizzerLV]

5ft even 13yo girl easily mistaken as a combatent. They knew she was in the car

[@demitri2510]

I’m sure that 5ft tall 100lb girl was very scary and intimidating for those officers. Didn’t even allow a split second to check if she was carrying a weapon. Apparently helmet and plate carrier = combatant = street execution.

[@rupertneverton3887]

Two things can be true at once. I think in this case there can be extenuating circumstances like what the victim was wearing. I promise, if you wear a plate carrier and helmet out in public, even if you're a 5 ft, 100 lb person, you'll get some concerned looks. Secondly, although certain clothes or paraphernalia can raise the temperature especially in split second encounters, it can also be true that for too long cops have cared more about getting themselves home alive at the end of the day than the people they purport to serve. The reason we used to and should revere cops is because the job calls on you to risk your own life to save others. Sometimes that means giving a possible "suspect" an extra few moments of analysis to determine exactly how big of a threat they present. Sometimes, that extra second costs a cop his or her life, but other times it might save the life of a 15 year old girl scared out of her mind running toward the people shes counting on to save her and not considering what she looks like to them.

[@iggyboo]

@@demitri2510 I mean what if she was going to say mean things to them or what if she was carrying a recording device! Better safe and just shoot first.

[@ZizzerLV]

@@rupertneverton3887 I wonder how many dead menacing looking kids we get at hallow that are 2 close to crimes.

[@eakherenow]

Could Soave be relocated to a minor community college as a student until he matures.I watch only for Olayemi.

[@telltruthgoddance]

Poor kid!!! But it looks like the armor could’ve been on her for protection.

[@hrs2044]

Some protection, she still got shot by the cops and died.

[@Semelem]

How’d that protection work out?

[@BradfordHills]

policing is not a monolith. there is great variance with regard to training, tactics, integrity and culture. the guest paints with the broadest brush.

[@fixieroy]

And yet the results are all the same.

[@willcurley3607]

We are to believe that a father shot at believe while his daughter was in the car and what should they have done then Robbie. This is horrible but how is mr police who is a normal person to have done with this. Omg. Jesus Christ.

[@buttercup3ish]

WHY!!!

[@Everson33]

I love how u can criticize American police but not Israeli.

[@greglavers]

Absolutely 100% disagree. What would YOU do if you are engaged in a fire fight and one unknown person gets out in full body armor and helmet and starts running toward you? Unfortunate but I side with the Police. They want to go home to their families too you know.

[@pmberkeley]

Women are generally not a risk to cops. Do you think they couldn't tell she was a woman?

[@Mantikal]

Well, you had a video - but it's not the video we need to be looking at to decide.

[@hidesinlonggrass3229]

It ain't smart running at people with guns drawn. And considering how she knew she was dressed. Death by bad decisions......

[@PB-or2fd]

Blame the little girl... Hope you don't have kids.

[@martyk656]

This week? it was a week ago.

[@KawaiiKasai]

... of all the guests the Hill could have chosen for this story, this lady is literally the worst choice they could have made. This is not an appropriate story to bring on such a biased partisan actor to comment on.... that's a child, not a prop.

[@dgdinwiddie]

This situation is tragic but her comments about what she believes police know is ridiculous. Absolutely the police make mistakes but unfortunately that happens in high stress situations. Take a force-on-force training class, it'll open your eyes.

[@ouknow1446]

How can they be passing if we keep getting these results?

[@dgdinwiddie]

@@ouknow1446 what? Do you realize how many police interactions take place every day and how few of them ever turn violent? I wish there was a way to make all police interactions perfect but there just isn't.

[@ouknow1446]

@@dgdinwiddie Fatal police shootings per year: New Zealand: 1 UK: 3 Sweden: 6 Australia: 8 Germany: 11 US: 1000+ - Public Citizen (@Public_Citizen) June 8, 2020

[@ouknow1446]

@@dgdinwiddie The U.S is not even good compared to other Western nations. No where near perfect.

[@dgdinwiddie]

@@ouknow1446 the 1,000 fatal police shootings was the record high, that's not the average. Not even close. Cops don't even carry guns in many of those countries you listed so of course they're not going to have as many police shootings. Simply listing the number of police shootings says nothing about whether it was justified or not, how many of those were criminals in the commission of a crime?

[@jimaalex2656]

Lol I can guarantee the Hill wouldn't cover this story if the 15yr old was a black kid with a black dad. It was going to be well the police were just doing their job unfortunately the black kid got in the midst.

[@ScottHeritage]

This guest isn't really clicking with me. If it's so common, what's so special about this particular story? Oh, that's right, because there are thousands of police interactions that happen per day across this country that go just fine and that's why these outliers are so shocking that they get reported in the news -- AS THEY ARE UNCOMMON.

[@sabinesfamily]

Exactly.

[@willis7404]

Most events that garner national attention are statistically uncommon. Mass shootings, crimes committed by illegal immigrants, 9/11, car jackings, home invasions, etc. if something is uncommon does that mean ppl can’t analyze a pattern of incidents that are statistically uncommon but produce far too many tragic results and destroy public trust?

[@liuj88]

2:00 "The police admit to shooting and killing 1045 people each year." The definitions of "common" and "uncommon" may be subjective and surely depends on context and interpretation. Consider: (1045 incidents)/(365 days in a year) = 2.86 incidents per day . Does this meet the threshold of "common" or "uncommon", and whose threshold do we use? Is this too high, too low, just right, or something else? I think it's fair to talk about these incidents and advocate for improvement in police practices, no matter how "(un)common" they are.

[@ScottHeritage]

@@liuj88 And of those 1,045 incidents, how many officers were cleared for acting appropriately in the moment vs. being engaged in a malicious extra judicial killing? There's also 350+ million people in this country. 1,045 over the course of the year isn't a massive number in comparison to the population of the U.S.

[@liuj88]

@@ScottHeritage "And of those 1,045 incidents, how many officers were cleared for acting appropriately in the moment vs. being engaged in a malicious extra judicial killing?" I don't know, and I don't think it matters. As I said in my previous post, how you define "common" and "uncommon" is subjective and depends on the context. This standard is not especially relevant, in my opinion. "There's also 350+ million people in this country. 1,045 over the course of the year isn't a massive number in comparison to the population of the U.S." If we compare the number of plane crash fatalities with the number of airline passengers, one can argue that these fatalities are extraordinarily rare. Yet each crash is given much attention, and improvement (of pilot training, of aircraft construction, etc.) is always pushed. There are other factors to analyze in these incidents, not just frequency. I see nothing wrong with anyone advocating for improvement.

[@jamesdrake2378]

what happens now is that the lawyers will make money

[@fatrobdouble]

Somebody needs to have a talk with Robbie about his bangs.

[@willcurley3607]

Ahh. I just figured it out. You are going to go with ESG. Well that is the end. Don’t come back Bri.

[@kinkisharyocoasters]

Shows like Hawaii Five-0 might as well have time machines and people who can fly in them given how unrealistic they are

[@madwhitehatter]

White and female and shot? That doesn't help her narrative.

[@TehutiofNewKmt]

You had one job. ONE. When are the racist going to wake up so we can finally have a decent, peaceful environment for everyone

[@nathanbrewer6032]

As usual a lack of training and discipline among our Law Enforcement remains an issue. Defunding the Police has not helped, and Cops are scared to do their job, not an excuse for killing a child...but part of the results.

[@PB-or2fd]

They weren't too scared to riddle her full of bullets.

[@olorin1710]

Cops have received more money now then any other time

[@SniperZaku]

Oh nooo they brining back oleymi?? Don't do it!

[@jonblack6624]

when are NON-LETHAL WEAPONS used n how are they used? what is law enforcement policy on NON-LETHAL WEAPONS ? LIVE AMMO SHUD ONLY BE USED AS A LAST RESORT AFTER ALL NON-LETHAL ACTIONS HAVE BEEN USED BEFORE HAND...RUBBER BULLETS, STUN GUNS, TEARGAS, BEAN BAG AMMO, ECT. THERE ARE SO MANY TOOLS AT LAW ENFORCEMENTS DISPOSAL TO USE, ALWAYS GO TO LETHAL FIRST, THAT AGE OLD SAYING "SHOOT FIRST ASK Q's LATER" ALWAYS COMES TO MIND, AND WUDN'T YOU KNOW GOOD GUY WITH GUN NOT ON THIS CRIME SCENE EITHER. JUST BAD COPS

[@milestackettmusic]

How can your guest claim she’s so sure the police did know she was unarmed? A 5 foot two person with a helmet and tactical gear could very much not look like a young child. I’m sorry but Olayami is not a reasonable voice. Every single time it is hyperbole and absurd claims.

[@joseph1156]

I trust olayemi because she was there and knows all the facts and is totally unbiased.

[@MrSumone]

🤣 I know olayemi is THE preeminent expert on everything relating to race and policing

[@beautifully_scarred_lea]

You call for defending the police and now you want to cry when they aren't around....get tf out of here

[@lackerman3975]

WHERE'S BRI!

[@daveblackman816]

Oh lord not oleyami. This show….smh

[@NikkiTheViolist]

She was pretty decent in this video, would recommend watching it

[@josephjohn907]

Shut up

[@paulweeldreyer7457]

She's not good

[@airaines]

@@NikkiTheViolist I agree. Normally I am not a fan, but she was right on today. This case is sickening and not uncommon.

[@cuomosrevenge947]

@@airaines point to some other instances if its so common... remember we live in a nation of 400 million or so people

[@Onewolf888]

The place May been wrong but you had an unknown person running towards them in body armor they don't know what's going on.

[@milestackettmusic]

hmmmm I wonder why Oleyemi didn’t get brought on as a regular guest host? Hmmmmm. Could it possibly be her lovely wonderful personality? So happy this often racist cop hating harpy was pretty much given the boot aside from Briahna shoe horns her on.

[@iggyboo]

This content approved by the apartheid state of Israel.

[@whatsdoin2392]

Cops should stay in their car and eat donuts. There is zero support from the community and if you make any mistake they will be prosecuted by BOTH federal and state authorities. Human error will NOT be tolerated!

[@josephpanella2726]

Bringing Olayemi in for an unbiased talk about the police is rediculous. Do we even have all the facts at this point regarding the case?