150.000 Orcs vs 10.000 Elves | Epic Fantasy Battle Simulator

[@mrtokyofrank]

All the Elven archers should have been put around the entrances behind the Elven swordsman to concentrate their fire on the orcs attacking the entrances.

[@thabomuso2575]

Yes. this should be an obvious tactic. Also the Elven lacked tactical reserves. They needed to rotate troops from the frontline and bring in fresh warriors. Since there were 10 000 Elven and roughly two thirds of them seemed to be archers, the Elven should have more than enough of arrows to kill 150 000 Orchs, as long as they get to fire them all. About 20 arrows or a little more per archer isn't really that much but more than enough to gradually kill the Orchs, as long as the archers are protected by their swordsmen.

[@jarlnils435]

@@thabomuso2575 an english archer had always two bags of 24 arrows with him. And for every company was a waggon full of arrow filled barrels to refill their ammunition. An archery focused culture like the elves would do the same, I think.

[@franciscoj.a.b.7404]

@@thabomuso2575 ñ

[@MrDavildante]

They also needed make a shieldwall on enterences cuz this troops just run to first enemy troops that came close. Archers needed shoot faster there literaly swarm of orks so you dont need time to mark some target just draw and loose. And i agree with all that was told before why not concentrate most of the forces in big circle and live small amount to cover up when you retreat. Also they needed fire pitch that fill be thrown from side of entrances when shieldwall retreating to small circle who is literaly easier to defend cuz it has 1 enterance.

[@thabomuso2575]

@@MrDavildante also, a shield wall would be nice but I am not sure that it is the best option. The Elves needed to form a defense formation as inverted pyramids. That means that you don't have a battle line but instead keep men at the gflanks and the center empty, with warriors further back. that would both channel the Orchs into a pit where the archers can shoot at them at close range without hitting their own warriors. It would also mean that the Orchs could be constantly hit and be outnumbered from the flanks. It would also give them less room to swing their swords. Now as for close combat, the Orchs are much stronger than the Elves, but their swords are only made for slashing, not cutting. They need room for that. Furthermore, the Elves can more easily hit the legs of the Orchs. It would be better if the second rank of the Elves held shields over the heds of the first rank. Finally, there should be a third rank with spears that could easily hit the Orchs in their legs and groin and destabilise them. The Elven swordsmen would then finish them off. In this fight, the Orchs fight man-to-man with suicidally high morale against the Elves who coordinate poorly and that is why they win. The Elves were not coordinating.

[@ashapuhin9825]

Its not that the elves were out outnumbered,they just have incompetent commander...

[@ashapuhin9825]

@Omega Mutant we all know that orcs are not the sharpest tools in the shed..

[@scottsthoughtschannel9538]

Indeed

[@patrykredzimski6551]

It is totally that the elves were outnumbered nothing to do with a commander.. how do you expect to win a 15-1 ratio no matter how good the commander is your not winning that matchup it’s literally impossible unless every single elf there was the best swords man and archer you could imagine

[@jefflarry4944]

@@patrykredzimski6551 Defending forces definitely can win 15-1 ratios. Have a look at the Battle of Rorke's Drift, that's almost greater odds than 15-1.

[@thabomuso2575]

@@patrykredzimski6551 the Elves had more arrows than there were Orchs. They could shoot them at point blank rage and thus not miss with a single arrow. The trick is to use the Elven swordsmen in a way that makes it possible for the archers to empty all of their ammunition into the Orc army from the right angle, the right distance and at the right time. The Elven commander failed to do all of this.

[@pascoett]

The two big gaps make this place indefensible. One bottleneck could be defended by a much smaller group, denying the Orks to use their large effectively. It also makes the melee elves on the top hill look bad: they have hundreds of years experience but fell as fast the archers.

[@neriyacohen7805]

ill note that the fight was more of a many 1vs1 while arrowrs raged on the orcs....

[@shamus7747]

Orion, Findol, Durthu, Daith and the Sisters of Twilight all just sat around my PC watching that. Completly wrong tactics. Leaving so many archers exposed was criminal. Having the bulk of the archers out of range of anyone to fire at even more so. Not pulling the archers back to defensive lines when the lines were about to be breached. Speading the armour too thinly. Not banking the archers to concentrate fire. The Orcs should have needed ladders to get over the piled corpses.... Shakes head in disbelief... Only thing missing from that debarcle was rationing of arrows (Isandlwana).... So many Elven lives wasted unneccessarily.... Don't bother sending your CV to Athel Lauren for a commander position. (Lol, all said tongue in cheek. The tactics were very flawed but thanks for sharing).

[@phalanarbiplanax]

Truly, brother. My heart screamed that our defenses were not built correctly. And woe to those commanders who led so many of our fellow men to their deaths. Archers could take cover under the protection of shields, and armored heavy infantry could bristle with spears, on top of which accurate arrows would beat. Lomelor, who was sitting next to me at a mug of ale, said that such tactics were more like Edain's. Because elves think through defense on the battlefield much better. Easy Way to the West for the Fallen

[@Ramiiam]

The archers were shooting at distant targets even as orcs were hacking them to death.

[@phillipcroukamp1825]

150 000 orcs & there's that one archer that still manages to miss🤣🤣

[@Boubaznavour]

Something is always forgotten in movies and video games or simulation : when you have been killed you body stays. And with it your armor and weapons. When the first wave of an assault is on the ground the second wave is at least braked to go fighting. I let you imagine what kind of a wall must go through the 3rd or 4th waves ...

[@brunofrancasilva4178]

Yeah I remembered that because of snow's battle in game of thrones

[@captainwangy224]

I can't imagine what it must feel like to be in the front line at one of the choke points. Like, you know you're going to die no matter what lol. What do commanders tell these guys to get them to stay in line back in the day?

[@jonapal9841]

Your going to heaven/valhalla or allah will be proud of you

[@AoEProfessional]

Think about a real fight. Even you are in the back, you have to fight for your country. Our leader Mustafa Kemal Atatürk said in the independence war " I am not ordering you to attack. I command to die. In the time that will pass until we die, other forces and other commanders may take our place. " This sentence describes many thing actually.

[@katerTONY1]

the Orc-AI seems to have a big problem with the circle shape or whatever. They were just confused after breaking the first group of elves

[@duncanfeyd4056]

They're orcs, not Alexander.

[@johnrussett5712]

First off. Very poor defense with three very wide entrances and no way of closing them off. Archers should have been consolidated at the entrances. As one entrance is breached the whole army should have fell back. The elves abandon their people on the walls what a waist very poor commander.

[@supersasquatch]

Was surprised to see 110000 orcs survive

[@Ramiiam]

That tree troll stood watching while all the elves in front of him were massacred, slapped at a few, then died. Useless.

[@ricaroanimar6695]

If the elves had played smarter this might have actually worked in their favor. Putting up palisades would also work wonders but i don't think u can do this in the game. They definitely needed to use the prime hill better though. Focused the archers better, and retreat their forces back when things got dicey

[@SurrealScotsman]

Well, those clearly were not Elves & the defensive planning was that of a Drunken Dwarf.

[@egor-grigoryev]

Ha, yes, if the orcs had used the typical Orc battle tactics of "rushing forward and knocking the nasty elves", then they would have won, suffering ten times less losses. But I'm even afraid to imagine how powerful a computer is needed for this.

[@kosaurang7426]

When the elv lose frontline they need go back and use that archer like meet shield to hold the choke point in 2nd line,they friendly fire alot in this video.

[@Jay-anti-dad-bod]

Such good channel now ive found it i can't stop watching

[@barryscott6222]

So, what does this Sim tell us... That Sh*t tactics means that an eminently defensible position will fall if you put your forces in all the wrong places. And don't focus your force where it is most needed and effective.

[@westwarren6736]

The elves kept moving out in ranks hold position and men step up when men fall.

[@Alaric11]

I'm actually impressed by how utterly worthless the elven archers were. How the fuck did entire battalions of elves shoot volleys yet only fell a handful of orcs?

[@mrdy4225]

it did but orcs dont die easily

[@corndogrequiem1728]

Lothern Seaguards on guard mode would have done the job, they're too good.

[@ibramgaunt2997]

Это не Warhammer total war )

[@kavaiia9225]

Dude, we want to see the battle not the overview of the map. Why make videos like this if you're gonna zoom out most of the time.

[@vladimirallodski3949]

Что бы не видеть, как ИИ орков тупит и бегает кругами под стрелами

[@JB17521or]

I prefer it that way, i wanna see what is going on, how the battle's going, not see generic melee footage.

[@kavaiia9225]

@@JB17521or The title of the battle kinda hints as to how the end result would go... You want to see if a group of surrounded units somehow go superpowered? That would be indicated in the title as well.

[@kavaiia9225]

@@vladimirallodski3949 That makes sense.

[@vladimirpustovit2161]

All depends on russian orcs armor wich is insanely good here against elven arrrows. And the tankage of elf shieldman blocking the passage to hill. Giant treeman shood stand at the mid of the shield wall not in 2nd line.

[@КириллТрифонов-е5ф]

Why russian orcs?

[@vladimirpustovit2161]

@@КириллТрифонов-е5ф kremlin propagandists called themselfs orcs and protesters against bloody war made by crazy dictator putin, they called elfs. So it is natural naming, most of the russian orcs vs small elf group, here on this video and in russia. But in reality elfs will win i guess. putin is just too crazy, so world will help elfs, not russian orcs. Also in reality russian orc armor is a cheap, heavy crap.

[@a.constructor9387]

@@КириллТрифонов-е5ф you should ask your parents)))

[@КириллТрифонов-е5ф]

@@a.constructor9387 знаешь как палятся СНГшники? Скобочками вместо смайлика))))

[@herogibson]

Guys… it doesn’t matter what the elves did here. 150k orcs is going to smash 10k elves. The elves had the slightest of higher ground. Multiple entrances to defend. It doesn’t matter what they did. Not even a little bit. They were already dead elves when they didn’t know 150k orcs were marching their way, and leave the settlement.

[@kinoochoaedeel]

how many orcs died and how many arrows did the elves spend?

[@ESOdanny]

This is stupid. The elves would have won if Treebeard was not in the way!

[@CMDRFandragon]

Everyone knows only the RIders of Rohan can save the day!

[@cheister97]

"You ride to war, but not to victory."

[@mecsi2573]

I wish Total War games could handle this many troops

[@swagolny]

The orcs would be climbing the mountain taking out elves honestly.

[@jonny-b4954]

Do a Battle of Watling Street recreation. Boudica vs 10k Romans. And they just get trashed hahah

[@537537]

This would’ve been a fun battle to watch if it were a more even fight.

[@3vgezer]

Archer Cap here. First of all those arrows are very slow. Arrows should travel a lot faster than that. Second those archers reload to fast but since they are elf it not might be a problem. Also I know elfs are worship trees and stuff but for 1 ent 10.000 archers a lot to forsake.

[@politicallyincorrect2564]

Create a U shaped formation in each entrance. Let the Orcs enter and you can easily kill them as they will be surrendered by 2 sides. Would something like that be more effective 🤔?

[@thabomuso2575]

either a u-shaped formation, or as I suggested, en inverted pyramid formation. The Orchs would still be stronger man to man against the Elves, but they would get stuck into each other and unable to use their slashing swords properly. The Elves would as you imply, protext and be stronger at their imporant flanks. Meanwhile, Elven archers would shoot the Orchs from the fron, from the flanks and even from behind. That way, The Orchs at thos choking points would die faster than new Orchs could be committed to the choking points. And eventuelly, the Orch army would run out of men.

[@exceptional2223]

Let's see the next video, where 300,000 thousand orcs against 6,000 thousand people of the West. And also 6,000 Rohirrim of Rohan will be an epic battle between good and evil)))

[@titithierry920]

il aurait mieux valu mettre tous les archers en bas au début, puis les faire tous se replier au niveau supérieur au moment de l'invasion du premier niveau. Ensuite concentrer tous les tirs des archers sur les ennemis devant les entrées pour protéger les défenseurs.

[@àstark3845]

Clairement, c'est la logique de base. Bon après à 10 000 contre 150 000, y'a même pas de match en réalité. Par contre j'aurais bien aimé voir le tableau de kill pour voir combien d'orc sont morts.

[@sweetburgers1]

More tree creatures would have made this battle a lot better

[@iliaahmadi267]

good battle.. but wrong formation by elves

[@cat_city2009]

I wish these videos would show the death toll on both sides. I want to see what kind of damage the losing side inflicted.

[@ВячеславСмирнов-в4и]

Очень много орков конечно. Но возможно, если бы все эльфы стреляли только в проходы, а не просто в толпу - тогда исход битвы может был бы другим? Тактика

[@_provoke_7920]

Is pike units not allowed for the elves? I feel like they would have been better than the archers or at least haft of the archers would have been pikes

[@lwazixulu8405]

Pulling majority of forces to the prime hill, would assist in bottlenecking the orc forces, this commander spread his army too thin

[@warallied]

more appropriate to get lord of the rings soundtrack tbh LOL

[@aleksanderallien6169]

Straszne marnotractwo jednostek, taktyczma porażka dowódcy.

[@jeremiahfister3124]

The video was good but it was just way to one sided. Was there a way to stop the defenders from charging out?

[@jammyoiyz7971]

i counted every elf, there is only 9999

[@ДмитрийНечаев-ы2р]

К сожалению у эльфов было без шансов, но все равно было бы интересно посмотреть статистику боя, сколько орков на стреляли лучики

[@andreilukyanov4286]

Сколько бы эльфы не настреляли, орки победили- а значит эльфы умерли зазря, а орки хотя бы умерли за победу.

[@MY_SiN]

Если бы те лучники которые на первом этаже после прорыва отступали к замку к остальным лучникам они бы продолжали приносить пользу и всё было бы не так плохо

[@robertjv]

I'm suprised they held out for so long

[@elfhighmage8240]

Does this equip anyone with spears? The ultimate defensive formation weapon.

[@mrdy4225]

elves use swords and arrows. knights use spears

[@Ectehelion]

Gil galad??

[@SalazarDaraster]

@@mrdy4225 Elves use spears too in a lot of universes

[@daneking2889]

i saw a bead of sweat run down my computer just watching this

[@scottlucidi6476]

Legolas hit snooze and couldnt get there on time

[@david.barrau-guiderdoni]

Great ! where can i DL this game, plz ? ^^

[@darkhunter777]

MOD TtotaL War ?

[@MrArgenius]

Why orcs don't have any ranged weaponry?

[@ZackChannel]

you gotta put the rigs specs my friend...

[@elilios]

What was the final casualties

[@SamEichers]

Could've held em off at the end had they just concentrated fire at the opening.

[@huntermoore7669]

HOW SO YOU CHANGE TEAMS WHEN SETTINF UP ARMIES!

[@kimgarrick9176]

That is no orc, that is urukhai

[@fatyowls]

Your archer's should be the last that fall's.

[@tylertyler6418]

But my lord there is no such force!!

[@derkaiser420]

The elves could have fought better if they had defensive siege weapons

[@concernedcitizen4819]

I'm disappointed in the tree lol

[@j2ise323]

What game is this

[@nunomiguelbernardinopicao2238]

What poor and disastrous tactics the Elves employed, if they concentrate the archers behind the infantry perhaps they would stand a chance but this tactic was useless and defeat is inevitable due to sheer numbers of orcs

[@captainjack8881]

Recreate lord rings battles please

[@uniquechannel6347]

Game name? Available on Android?

[@FaramirSM]

Эльфов можно было перегруппировать на второй ярус. Уруки бессмертные считай

[@LordKalte]

How many orcs were killed?

[@GhANeC]

Surprised at the results. I mean it was just 15 to 1

[@Dragonkindred]

Obviously designed for an Orc win after a lot of bloodshed

[@ShouliHussam]

The graphics of this game is amazing however the AI is so stupid, how the lines of ocs waiting for a long period while losing most of their troops before they attack!

[@PRINCKROVI]

Не лорно. 1 стрела-1 труп. Скорострельность - бешеная. В итоге если колчан - 30 стрел. То 10000 эльфов легко и непринуждённо кладут 300000 орков фактически до начала сражения.

[@jb2257]

This makes no sense 10k elves should have just been archers lol that’s 10k dead orcs after every volley so 15 volleys and it’s over

[@ipk801]

how many elfs killed?

[@ronaldwhite1730]

Thank you . ( 2022 / Aug / 12 )

[@BalbazaktheGreat]

Wait, we don't even get a kill count?! What was the point?

[@MrNoyazz]

The arrows arent doing much...

[@stethespaniard2]

That was pretty pointless. Wasn’t even close

[@dutchrequired]

now this is the kind of battle simulation videos i like. just show the video and don't narrate through it.

[@aterinawetrowa8552]

Что это за игра?

[@AngeloAlvarenga]

Elfos não atiram flechas no chão.

[@coathebeast8816]

Elves clearly lost becouse Thranduil wasn't there

[@fadadesbois4405]

Warhammmer ? Ou lord of rings ?

[@Drippy_dripster]

Should have had everyone at the top circle concentrating on the one bottle neck not shooting at 7 different spots doing not real damage to numbers that was just terrible

[@mclovin4974]

This is not even close

[@jussihark53]

How many Orcs died?

[@Privatepain1234]

I wish we could see after action report

[@vikingpowered868]

Not much of a sim at all. An inferior and defending army would have made a shield wall. At least they would not have run towards the attacking enemy one by one like headless chickens..

[@sobriquedcakmugu6069]

150 000 orcs ws 50 000 elves would be fair fight

[@jeremywilliams3465]

This was Heartbreaking

[@zaidshaikh7217]

What is this game, where can i play lol

[@scottsthoughtschannel9538]

This just looks silly, im very disappointed!!! The orcs just keep running away!!! This is just sad :(

[@soname6039]

а че не 1000000 орков против 100 эльфов? и так понятен исход

[@469entertainment2]

tja Masse statt Klasse ist halt immer besser :D

[@D.satyagraha]

Only need 5 mnts to breached ring 1

[@gazb8829]

shouldn't set up battles where elves get killed.

[@ronsamson537]

Lame, you didn't even provide the resulting kill ratio.

[@I0puaH]

3ачем 150к? Хватило бы 15к.

[@loselegidos9442]

budica the end