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@halwestwood Жыл бұрын

Good discussion on an important topic! Sometimes it is hard to find out what the recommended line is on a given ski. Any tips for that?

@FreeheelLife Жыл бұрын

Most manufactures have online spec sheets or you can call them. - Madsen

@pataliciousP Жыл бұрын

Great discussion, especially for those of us that make our own skis. I am still very much a beginner at ski building and trying to figure out the centre point has always been a mystery for me, this podcast has cleared away a lot of that. Considering I started tele'ing in the early 90's (and worked in skis shops before that) the whole cord centre discussion really resonated with me. On the first several pairs of skis I made I mounted my bindings way too far forward and couldn't figure out why I couldn't make them turn. I finally realized I had messed up the mounting and once I shifted the bindings back at least 3cm the skis finally felt good. Keep up the good work!

@FreeheelLife Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Glad that some of this was helpful! Thanks for listening. - Madsen

@paulmacgillivray3947 11 ай бұрын

How come you mounted them too far forward? What I mean is what method (boot center to balance point/boot center to chord center) were you using? I'm asking because I'll be mounting my skis soon.

@pataliciousP 11 ай бұрын

@@paulmacgillivray3947 Hey Paul, I think I might have messed up my comment. I was mounting them too far back, as in mounting them with the old school pin line on cord centre. I am not calculating boot centre based on the effective edge of the skis I make. So I measure the effect edge (from widest point at tip to widest point at tail) and then multiply that length by ~54% to give me the boot centre. I think mount my tele bindings based on this boot centre line. Where as before it felt like I could never get enough pressure on the front of the ski and the rear trailing ski never felt engaged, now I can stomp my turns and really feel centred on the ski in all conditions. Of course this could be because I switched from 75mm to NTN and they ski differently.

@pataliciousP 11 ай бұрын

@@paulmacgillivray3947 I thought I would add some solid numbers to my response. I went out and measured a pair of skis I made many years ago. The first pair of bindings I mounted on them were Super Loops and the were mounted with the pin line on cord centre. So the skis are 174cm, the cord centre is 87cm which made the boot centre 103.5cm from the tip. This was the old school way to mount tele bindings and I had done it this way for over 30 years. When I switched to the Lynx I mounted them in roughly the same spot and had a heck of a time getting a stable turn with them. After a lot of reading I went with 54% of the effective edge for the boot centre. In this case the skis are early rise tip and tail so the effective edge is 148cm and 54% of that is 80cm for the boot centre which made this only 96cm from the tip so I effectively moved my bindings 7cm forward on the ski and it made a huge difference. It feels a lot more solid and aggressive on the groomers and in the backcountry.

@paulmacgillivray3947 11 ай бұрын

@@pataliciousP Thank for taking the Tim Patrick. I appreciate it! To recap so I can understand: You measured the effective edge and instead of going down the middle (50%), you measured for the boot center to be at 54% the length of the effective edge? (148cm). Also, this puts your skis further back than if you had mounted them at 50% the length of the effective edge. STILL, this was 7cm forward than when you had mounted them using pin line at chord center (measuring the full length of the ski). Am I reading this correctly? I'm thinking of putting voile switchbacks on K2 Reckoner 92 for all mtn and backcountry performance but with playfulness and adventure at the core. In this case, would it be wise to measure the effective edge (early tip and tail rise ski) and multiply it by 54%? Of course, boot center to recommended line is my backup and something I'll keep in mind while measuring.