#159

[@thejoelmoranshow]

Time stamps: 1. We open basketball cards 2. Will the Nets have enough time to figure it out? 12:53 3. Our thoughts on the Magics future 42:16 4. Are the Nuggets a dark horse to come out of the west? 01:08:35 5. Top 5 rappers 01:39:00 6. This week in the NBA 01:52:53 7. Steph Curry debate 02:14:40 8. Bulls struggles against top teams 02:47:41 9. Would it be a mistake for the Wizards to give Beal the super max? 03:05:53

[@Notcleverenough]

This is better than First Take

[@pastorgainz7230]

The most underrated community the KD saviours, KD gets the most excuses in league no cap

[@1800LUNATIC]

My guy JC got left out of the packs :'( Somebody gotta send this man a fat care package

[@bennydabully8181]

Best podcast out on YT right now

[@ChiefAlpaca]

It’s nice to enjoy a basketball conversation with guys who actually know the NBA, but also make it feel like you’re just chopping it up with the boys.

[@anonymousrichh4430]

I’m I’m

[@jamescooper2671]

Saying steph curry having the most superstar help is wild

[@momamia2947]

Shoutout Alexandra, best wishes.

[@mrmatthewwilliamsify]

Drew was in his bag with that KD monologue! And happy birthday to his girl too.

[@haaaaandrew]

Thank you king , I appreciate that 🤝💯

[@trapmastergamingandmusic8680]

The currry pampered debate? Stupid. He isn’t slandered in media constantly like harden you know why Joel? He’s a good dude. He’s humble and never makes a fuss. Never a controversy. Everywhere where harden walks he sets of nuclear bombs. I love hardens game but he gets what’s coming to him with regard to slander with the way he acts regardless of his skill.

[@skatkat5029]

And I'm going to just add this that's a complete lie. In those two years after Kevin Durant left in the warriors were really bad the world literally shitted on Steph Curry they said he was only good if he had good players around them they said you can't set a billion in one screen then at the end of last season when he was going crazy and led the league in scoring he literally propelled himself past all the criticisms that's why he doesn't get criticized as much as people do others just because I proved everybody wrong he can do it with a lot of help and he can do it with minimal help

[@chino_ftwdavid4557]

shoutout Alexandra hope you feel better as well as your family and once we get zo and caruso back it'll be a different be on the top

[@haaaaandrew]

Thank you brother 💯

[@chino_ftwdavid4557]

​@@haaaaandrew np bro respect we all family💯

[@SergioHernandez-xv2zg]

shoutout alexandra 🅿️‼️

[@haaaaandrew]

💯💯💯

[@SergioHernandez-xv2zg]

@@haaaaandrew 🅿️

[@bmoney3134]

Shoutout Alexandra

[@haaaaandrew]

@@bmoney3134 thank you my guy 💯🙌🏽

[@tysonholmstead1345]

Why does it always seem that whichever of the warriors big 3 is hurt or out suddenly becomes the most important piece of the puzzle? I feel like any two of them should be able to carry a team to a good regular season record but they haven’t shown that.

[@digontozahid]

Joel was embarrassing on the jamal murray argument ....nuggets wont win one game in playoffs with jamal murray being number 1 option without jokic

[@RJP27]

Gunna over Jay-Z? Dont talk abt music ever again😂

[@haaaaandrew]

Agreed

[@alonzobarajas8704]

That whole list was boo boo John had some decent ones but how can you not have pac biggie or even cube top 5 all time 😪

[@Jdot109]

@@alonzobarajas8704 Biggie was in my top 5. Personal favorite. 2pac is in my top 10 I wasn’t personally much of a fan but his impact in rap and all the great work he’s done makes him easily top 10. I don’t get mad when people claim he’s the goat. He has the resume for it. 2 diamond selling albums… pac was ridiculous. As far as ice cube… cube has some amazing albums, and records… but I don’t think he has the resume to be put in the top 5… imo he isn’t better then Jay z , Nas , Eminem , Biggie ( I know Biggie had only 2 albums but his impact and replay value are to great for me to leave him off… and then Lil Wayne in my opinion easily has a top 5 career, run in rap history. Classics in the album game … and he has multiple mixtape classics… hard to argue against Wayne and his dominance/impact.

[@1800LUNATIC]

Riv getting mad defensive about Steph😂 Having "help" has nothing to do with if they were drafted or not. Steph has had hall of fame help on his teams at all times (and when he didnt the team was ass). The KD Warriors are the greatest team of all time and Steph played a huge part in bringing KD in. Also playing with Dray Klay and KD at the same time without injuries is obviously more help than having 1 superstar teammate each year over the course of a decade. What matters is the amount of years WITH star teammates, not the amount of different star teammates. I would argue that its even better to have the same 2-3 star teammates every year than having a revolving door of stars.

[@trashyplay6932]

Riv acting like Steph has not had the most star help in one year is crazy to man’s has every excuse or what if the book his always being in a good situation to contend

[@MKP_1331]

The GOAT podcast always coming in clutch with that late night content 😮‍💨❗️

[@JaePharos]

I think I can say that a lot of us Magic fans would tell you that Markelle is by far the best PG we have on the team right now. He’s been restricted since returning but Suggs and Cole have yet to show the control Markelle has at this point.

[@Multiswagbeast]

I hope the “stock” term gets more recognized

[@Ltnuggetv3]

"Bounce off what he's saying" "ayo" LMFAO

[@codejjm]

I fell asleep watching this and had a dream I was on the podcast with you guys

[@blackking2046]

The Suns won't trade Cam and Ayton for KAT

[@betweendalinesnbapodcast3733]

Riv ( i believe thats his name. dude on the left) killed yall on the warriors and steph curry argument. Killed.

[@jaformvp1063]

Bro if you’re going to count draymond and klay then count harden Russ and KD that team is better. Talent wise knock it off

[@jordanjohnson3333]

Riv smoked the whole mid pack w that gunna v jay z foolishness

[@eazy-e8085]

The KD D riding was atrocious

[@glenn8886]

Before watching, thumbs up first👍👍

[@skmmlk5379]

Talking about Murray being proven but picking ja and the grizz and ja only made it to the post season once once once once not even twice but yet you pick the grizz over the nuggets doesn't make much since

[@LONSIII]

Nice episode

[@jacekkaplon200]

Bro that Curry arguement had me mad asf. First of all Riv turned it into “who had more superstars” rather than “who had more help”. Curry has been on the best teams of the decade. Even take out KD, the 2016 team is still better than any team Harden has ever been on, but we supposed to discard that because they grew together. Nobody said that being surrounded with more help meant that Curry was scheming and building team in free agency etc. but his teams were simply better

[@itsyeboi631]

Miami Locked up Joel Embiid. Put up 22 by flailing, went 4-15 LOL and got bailed by the FT line. 82 points for the best team in the east lol

[@SosaSokimi]

No harden lol

[@igbasketballtalk]

No Harden + they were on a back-to-back, and 5th game in 7 days. Game literally meant nothing lmao.

[@SneakerGod22]

@@igbasketballtalk The Heat had no Lowry. That games was huge for both teams if the Sixers would have won it would given them the tie breaker. They would have been one step closer to the 1 seed. And with the Heat winning they now have 3 game lead on the Sixers and the Bucks which will not be easy to overcome.

[@ddrizzyds1216]

@@SosaSokimi no kyle for us? 😂

[@SosaSokimi]

@@ddrizzyds1216 lol who?

[@JoGigaDump]

I’m with jc bruh these new rappers be pumping out trash but we stick with the good shit

[@bari9576]

Let’s not forget Bron was still playing with a high ankle sprain Vs the Suns.

[@chino_ftwdavid4557]

what's wrong with J Cole literally one of the best lyricists of all time him and kendrick

[@SidelineSteve]

John be having the Brooklyn blinders, yo. He gonna have to go back on Hov > Ye like he did the Nets winning the finals 🤣. It’s love tho

[@digontozahid]

Kd's 2 rings are worthless even durant knows thats why he left warriors because he himself didnt get validation...

[@ErkyIrsay]

Markell =🐐

[@123123roo]

the problem with having to many lottery picks like Magic has is theres no real establishment of roles so you have multiple players trying to get theirs and when you have that you have players who dont develop, COLE SHOULD COME OFF THE BENCH, and Fultz should be traded let Suggs be the Point guard of the future

[@1xromantic895]

Do you think the 2018 cavs would make it to the ecf this playoffs?

[@justinoliver4053]

Joel that was the worst steph curry take i've seen. lol 1. not saying steph don't deserve criticism but this idea that he deserves any hate for playing with one team is the dumbest take. EVERY STAR player would love to have stephs situation , Lebron does it all the time when he goes to other teams , he plays GM and build the teams he wants, he ok's the people who come to the team. Steph waited and played for an organization that eventually made moves and got players that could play alongside and grow with steph NOT STAR PLAYERS just regular players who are good in a specific area. Why would he leave a situation where he's already won, where he's already said he wants end his career in that jersey it's much more than "Is this the best situation for me" "is dray and Klay coming back" dude thats a terrible take. You also brought up Harden "oh so you think Harden should've stayed in Houston".....yes maybe Harden should've stayed, maybe he should've stayed loyal to that organization or not and see what happens. I'm not knocking the dude but he's played with way more talent by bouncing around other teams and HE HASN'T GOTTEN CLOSER TO A RING, but lets hate on steph because he believes in the organization , they've done right by him, he's remained patient, and he's been rewarded for it. Thats such a terrible take. 2. Steph, Dray and Klay together make each other better and mask each others weaknesses. They grew together they were drafted there, you can't use that argument as if that's a negative, *ITS A TEAM SPORT* . This is what I find funny about alot of the criticism that comes Stephs way , do people realize that every player has weaknesses and you need another compliementary player to mask or improve that area of the team. They built each other and made each other better in a team sense and individually. Steph has carried teams , he's went off in playoffs even before 2015 and for not for his early injuries he would've went off earlier. When you bring up the 2019 finals steph averaged 30 , "bUt hE dIDn'T hIt the bIG sHoT" , you mean the fact that steph was boxed in one for most of that series with barely any help from the bench Steph and Klay had to be on that whole series, a series that i dont remmeber Draymond even being a factor in, klay went down. You lose it happens but this idea he didnt show up is ludicrious he averaged the number on his back....he just didnt hit that shot. But this idea that he doesn't carry or he isn't made for those moments is dumb. 3. Joel your not watching warriors play, Steph is playing decent but the team as a WHOLE is in a slump. Klay is still trying to find his way but everyone else isn't playing to the standard that they were playing at earlier in the season even when draymond was there before he went down. Evernyone and there moms know that Wiggins is not an allstar the man is a roller coaster ask any Warriors fan WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WERE GOING TO GET FROM HIM OFFENSIVELY, defense wise he's been solid. Again im not saying steph doesn't deserve criticism but there are many different factors on why that team is struggling beyond just defense and a good chunk of my blame goes toward kerr and these rotations. We still have yet to see what this team looks like with everyone healthy, we also haven't played with a true big this whole season! I just think it's funny that Steph is getting criticism for his teams for most of his career being GREAT when it was never guaranteed. When we've seen other teams try to create great all time teams but they fall apart and fail. That should be a testament to how great of an all-time player he is.

[@saucegardner208]

Bro drew trying to fit his Lebron narrative in the kd debate so hard bro acting crazy over bron

[@johnnyboyfunny]

Okay I’m new to the crew that jamal Murray take was funny asf 😭 my boy is certified bucket 🪣 but y’all def a chill vibe the music take is a knee slapper 😭🥴

[@Jaycheong95]

Joel destroyed drew with that murray argument over morant luka etc

[@haaaaandrew]

The cap detected on this comment was astronomical

[@dsaturdayfwight7516]

i wonder if they ever heard of tupac lol

[@bdub3228]

I’m with Drew on KD that was a weak ass move. Joined the team that beat him in the Conf Finals 😂

[@Pairdas]

Joel twist his point every second

[@manadam7669]

Las Vegas Night Owls

[@haaaaandrew]

Fire.

[@manadam7669]

@@haaaaandrew Thanks Bro.

[@alonzobarajas8704]

How can biggie cube and pac not be in your top 5 all time 😪

[@skmmlk5379]

With Murray and mpj back it's a completely different story you can not double near that much and if you go back and see Murray and jokic play together Murray helps make the game so much easier for jokic. Watch their 2 man pick and roll game

[@digontozahid]

Lebron got 56 sadly drew could have had his moment over riv if the episode came one day later lol

[@sydguitar99]

I think Harden is the best ISO not only bc of his scoring (analytically best in NBA history) but also of his elite passing

[@1800LUNATIC]

What has Steve Kerr done without his superstars though... Whole lotta nothing

[@Villainy11]

Hot Take- Nuggets will win the championship, no team beats a healthy Nuggets in a 7 game series

[@bibo5854]

Not a hot take, just stupid, like really really stupid lol

[@sydguitar99]

The Las Vegas Gamblers, I'm calling it

[@giangutierrez9867]

I would say Joel has a good top 5

[@skmmlk5379]

Is dame really a better playoff performer than jamal he hasn't done shit in the post season got to the west finals 2 guards against 2 guards even no kd and got swept

[@ErkyIrsay]

Wait no fucking way I’m in a madden league with you guys 😂😂😂

[@ddrizzyds1216]

cole not being in your top 5’s is bonkers

[@gamefreakjason]

Chicago isn’t fully healthy yet so I’ll give them a pass, but all I know is the Heat keep waxing all the top teams in the East and lost by 1 to Milwaukee and Jimmy played horrible. LET’S GO HEAT 🔥

[@pursuingtruth13]

🔥

[@Andrew-qq8fb]

You see, the thing about the Raptors is...

[@notmytruthTHEtruth]

3:01:00 you're tripping so hard. The Sixers will not make it past the second round maybe not even the first.

[@skmmlk5379]

In regards to golden state no one knows if draymond will be healthy the back is tricky he could go out ok him anytime once he comes back

[@xavieraviles346]

Chuma? He's nice

[@keemooo243]

Jay z not fw future hit for hit

[@Jdot109]

Out of your mind LMAOO. 🤣🤣🤣

[@skmmlk5379]

This guy on the right Murray should be back it hasn't even been a full year.

[@dylanrademacher4350]

🐐🐐🐐🐐

[@chandlerhoward4486]

Do some college hoops

[@lostyly]

The bron 2018 narrative different broooo the East was trash then.. KD great but he not bron let's move on from that plz

[@BrowardJit07]

jay z > gunna, and jamal murray > kyrie in the playoffs?!?!

[@marulegreatsmemes8184]

If that was my mans i definitely would’ve gave him a pack if I got two and he don’t got one

[@LelanWellz]

You guys love Kyrie and KD way too much. Kyrie don’t play and is always injury prone. The nets have literally won one playoff series since kd has been there and that was Celtics with no Jaylen brown

[@123123roo]

Bro whats the warriors record when Steph dont play and Draymond does? its awful i know, they work together when one is out they are not as good let steph miss 25 games warriors would be lucky to win 10 of them

[@green2698]

Riv such a clown. Man gets in his feelings every pod

[@scotty4654]

That boy on you constantly Riv , I don't think he like you or your takes lol

[@craigg1831]

Joel, Jokic, Bam, Rudy, Jarrett Allen are all better than KAT

[@pickaside]

Rudy and Allen aren’t. Bam is debatable

[@blackking2046]

I don't know why Riv likes to distort what his colleagues say

[@giangutierrez9867]

You guys should just stick to the sports talk ya obviously don’t know what the hell ya talking about music wise.!!!

[@LelanWellz]

Topshot > cards. you make way more money on topshot