FOOLPROOF Guide for Nasty SPIN on SLICE SERVE (Beginner, Intermediate, & Advanced Method)

[@at1838]

I love stop & pop! You're the first person I've heard talk about this, and it's a game changer.

[@TomRoyce]

I watched this video in the afternoon and took it on to the court for my match tonight. The tip on not breaking the wrist was exactly what I needed and focusing on the slice form worked. I only double faulted twice in 6 service games and had 10+ aces and most of my serves we not returned, and when they were, it was an easy put away by my partner at net. Thanks!

[@JetsetJive7]

Thanks for the video... the 2pm 3pm toss did the trick for me, now I can serve without so much pain.

[@grokker99]

Ive seen a lot of slice serve tennis videos and this is the best. especially the bonus insight at end of never breaking wrist, which takes away all the power from a service.

[@robertblount1377]

I really appreciate your understanding of the mechanics of each shot and especially your ability to get us to feel the stroke with your nuanced explanations of the basic principles of what is really going on with the stroke.

[@Tilly-Cat-2]

Just want to say thank you for uploading this. I'm a club / league player and have watched many many KZbin clips from coaches in the hope to get a consistent second serve spin / slice serve, without much success (week in week out). Your three detailed simple steps have made a huge difference and ultimately made (what used to be) a complicated action in to a very simple straightforward second serve action. Thank you:)

[@littleforest7696]

Such good teaching I swear. Your words are very well versed and it allows me to fully understand and apply your information. Really good video. THANK YOU!!!

[@boarini2003]

I always hit a flat serve down the T from the Ad side and never really considered a slice. I will have to practice this!

[@edreyes5381]

I truly learn a lot of new concepts with your videos that turn out to be really helpful. Thank you for all you do to provide information that is very useful for all of us trying to learn the nuances of the game.

[@charlesdang2557]

Wow, it's 2021 and I've seen so many tennis videos, but yours right here is top notch in editing and incredibly helpful. Your advice is easy to understand, easy to implement, and so effective. Thanks bro

[@AlejandroRodriguez-rk6xt]

You are doing an incredible job!

[@vectorthurm]

Your discussion and demonstration of slice strike zone beginning around the 7 min mark is very good! That is a very powerful demonstration visually! Thank you for doing this video!

[@_MichaelJordan]

“Snapping the wrist” is the most misunderstood and mis-taught technique in tennis. My first few years playing, the pros at my local club would always say “snap your wrist to get the ball down!” on my serve. I took this to mean bending my wrist, and almost everybody else I play with at 3.5 thinks this as well. It wasn’t until I injured my wrist exactly where it bends, did I do further research and figured out they were teaching us to pronate wrong. Not because they didn’t know how to do it correctly, but because it just happens so naturally for them they figured everybody would know not to bend the wrist like that when you “snap” through. I wish more people would bring light on how to correctly pronate, because the majority of people do it wrong and are going to injure their wrist at some point. So thank you for actually showing how to do it correctly.

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Thx for commenting.. spot on!

[@markokokus3153]

Everybody different on technique and technique for novice and advance is different as well.Hitting your sweet spot is so important. I'm learning by playing more. Playing makes your technique bcuz it develops your style

[@johnny6148]

amazing how many players don't pronate. i guess they never threw a rock!

[@laurencecorray]

Bloody brilliant, you have nailed it for me! "stop and pop”, you see it clearly in Sampras' serve!

[@sallehwahab1962]

Perfect explaination and very helpful. Thanks a lot

[@CahalanTennis]

You make it look so easy. Perhaps I ought integrate your stop-and-pop concept into my practice sessions.

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Stop and pop is good for every stroke... esp to hone contact point!

[@ginawilliams7577]

Excellent instructional video, thank you! Haven't come across your videos before but now subscribed. Looking forward watching more!

[@sandylamba2546]

Great video!! I really appreciate the detailed way you taught the serve!!

[@wallylam8888]

I really like your teaching method, very clear and simple to understand. Thank you from Canada.

[@jomserve]

Kick serve is my natural. I struggle with the slice. Thanks man.

[@rucas10]

Amazing video ! Excellent tips !

[@jeanbertrand68]

Excellent explanation, on the whrist snap . Good job.

[@Krwler]

Best kick serve video I’ve watched. And I’ve watched them all.

[@sahilpatel0701]

Krwler this is slice serve lol

[@jamesmurphy2304]

Your slice serve demo is excellent!

[@francisdavy6485]

This was really helpful;! Your explaining the slice serve in view of the groundstroke slice was very insightful. thanks so much. You are terrific, especially for a young guy!.

[@FilABernal63]

I often use the spin serve but your video helped me understand WHY and HOW it works Also, love the "pop & stop" tip!

[@henrylove514]

Please make more videos! Love your videos.

[@josellorens3553]

Thank you for the tip on the pronation when striking the ball on the serve. Need to make sure that the wrist is not injured.

[@EbolaStew]

Yes that was very helpful for me to understand pronation on the serve. I think I have been breaking my wrist to do it. Can't wait to practice the stop and pop and then proper pronation. This channel and the 2Minute channel seem most helpful to me.

[@sairaghavan7950]

This pop and stop really helped me visualize the slice serve. Thanks

[@firmgreeninc7481]

Great tips. Working with a grip change to a true continental grip and the Stop and Pop drill has changed my spin serve from average to a weapon. Thanks

[@15PointsOfTennis]

I put out some serve videos early 2023 that have much better instruction for building the arm motion. Glad this one helped

[@andrewcampbell2903]

A great video . I can slice but until now I haven’t had a good feel for it . I will go out tomorrow and try to use your concepts which you explained and demonstrated very clearly . Best wishes from New Zealand .

[@tomdineen7]

U r very honest. I love your videos. All these other videos showing pros like Federer are unrealistic for the average bear. Your videos reach home for the person who cannot throw a ball. The Throwing motion is essential for the big serve- Which I do not possess 😩

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Thx Thomas! Agreed and part of me demoing concepts is to show non super talented people can do it too.. or at least improve to some degree. My throwing motion was atrocious growing up.. you’ll get it over time

[@michellem9392]

Excellent video! It's just what I need to practice this weekend ‼️‼️‼️

[@gehadqaki]

Awesome video man. The details are huge

[@johnny6148]

excellent lesson

[@Mrtinili]

Thank you for saving my wrist! You are a teaching genius!

[@claudioneisouza5966]

Muito super, vou me esforçar o máximo e seguir suas orientações, grato.

[@donkeykong516]

Thanks for for explaining the mechanics in a way we can understand

[@anhvu3780]

stop n pop is really hard but I have to keep practicing b/c it will help me to find a sweet spot for other serves and overhead. thanks for the tip. subscribed.

[@HaInspiration]

SUBSCRIBED & 👍 - Thanks so much for your steps!

[@taivan9132]

I love the way you teach,already sub.Thank you ! From Brisbane

[@johnlyndsay]

Excellent! Thanks.

[@putiner2039]

one of the best coaches out there

[@songsong4356]

Good video. Thank you

[@movethelittleprince]

Thanks a huge! Very helpful

[@chetan417]

Great post, practical and enjoyable video. Tried it in match and worked incredibly well for me!

[@jatuttable]

Very informative! I've watched 7 or 8 slice serve videos... This is the best. Subscribed!

[@FairwayJack]

good stuff

[@denisgosselin2836]

I ike your explanation and tips, will practice this out. thx.

[@manjucs2331]

Very well explained. Thanks

[@bkatbamna]

Thank you. Great video. I'm a lefty and I don't have the movement on my slice serve that I should.

[@MizzoniDojo]

Love your videos. Thanks for going over the theory that's the most important thing for teaching

[@arrzhong]

truely valuable, thank you very much.

[@traderjoe6195]

Great tip on throwing the ball out too far will pancake the slice, I had a nasty slice but since I messed around with adding pace I totally screwed my slice serve . Now I know why it's more flat than slicing .!

[@alandavis927]

Fantastic video!

[@davidhlin3023]

Excellent tips! Stop and pop. Reminds me how Bruce Lee generated so much power in his one inch punch.

[@observador145]

Good job on this Steven! Thanks for posting!

[@cmarqz1]

Brilliant!

[@tennis47]

Great work! you are really a good coach !

[@robertasinger5951]

I’m playing today and will try this out! Thx!❤️

[@eyesonthetube]

really nice lesson, man!

[@user-jv9qz2bu1r]

i like your serve

[@sonnyyombo2230]

Thank you

[@danielgomezgarzon]

Great video !! Thank you !!!

[@lowgascostsorangeman2688]

Watched it all the way through. Great way to get aces if hit correctly but if too weak it can be returned viciously crosscourt. Nice points but it takes lot of practice but is very important to win a match.

[@JK-wz7uj]

I noticed this too, be ready to run right to get their return.

[@Studio42Brooklyn]

amazing!

[@hankphillips5033]

Really good stuff

[@andreandree4384]

interesting video on slice serve !!! (from paris)... :)

[@yunchan8807]

Thanks

I think it is important for everyone to understand that unless you are 30 years older than you look, you are a bona fide Tennis Savant/Genius. There are simply not enough hours in the day to not only develop your breadth and depth of knowledge, but the ability to string concepts together in an organized manner for teaching purposes unless you have been granted a gift from God. I hate being such a fan boy, but RESPECT ✊. Are you in Los Angeles by any chance? Contact info for Private lessons?

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Hey K C I’m actually in the Bay Area... if you’re visiting at some point shoot me in email at [e-mail]

[@LubaLuba1]

There's much confusion at exact contact of ball if you could put up your slice in slow motion do a few for a behind and few from the side I think I would understand better also should the wrist be loose thumb wrap around and index finger spread upward on handle.

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Ton of variations how players hold grips so idk... will do a separate vid on strike zone and position of strength so stay tuned!

[@LeaveAsItIs]

So there is no arm pronation in slice serve? I don’t see that even in Federer’s serve. I mean after slicing the ball arm turning doesn’t have an impact on the ball. At the point of contact no pronation happening?

[@user-be5qg7mr1s]

good but how do I get more sidespin on the deuce side for a righty? Less flat power but rather pull them off the court?

[@mickeway]

Hi, I learned from you how to get tremendous spin on the slice serve. Can you explain how to get that kind of spin on a twist serve, spinning it to the right instead?

[@paulfennell77]

Really enjoyed this video. You referred to a 'stop and pop' video, but I couldn't find it. Also a suggestion: add an 'About' section to your website with a short bio. Doesn't have to be your resume, could just be how you came to tennis and how you developed your philosophy (you've got interesting stuff to say, so should be no problem). And maybe make it easier to find your full name. Not on instagram, and only 'Steven' is available in the contact section on your website. Was beginning to think you were in witness protection.

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Thx for the suggestion! Stop and pop video coming in the future!

[@LubaLuba1]

Thank you Coach Steven I will keep an eye out for contact video. Also what bevel side should my index knuckle be on bevel side 1? or side 2? or right corner of bevel 1.

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Luba, my grips video is a ways out.. tough to ans bc various terminology for grips. My suggestion is to use a grip that naturally gives you spin, even experiment w BH grip to feel the extreme. Idk your situation but pancake grips and or lack of tricep/forearm strength are biggest inhibitors from learning kick or slice serve.

[@LubaLuba1]

thanks but backhand topspin grip? or flat grip? basically the index knuckle should be on side 1?

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Sry I’d have to see a diagram. But yeah anything that allows you to pronate without breaking ur wrists

[@LubaLuba1]

15 Points Of Tennis so when you say don't break your wrist you mean physically pronate but don't hurt myself? or keep in hammer holding position at contact?

[@15PointsOfTennis]

I explain briefly in the online program.. basically cocked, neutral and broken wrist positions. Strong in cocked and neutral but weak in broken. Try holding ur hand palm up then turn to palm down. You can use your forearm without breaking wrist. I’ll likely do a vid down the road involving this again

[@marcmarc5217]

Hey Coach Steve, I try it out early this morning but was only able to do the under arm spin but when I tried the slice serve I was able to get it in the service box but did not spin in any direction what am I doing wrong?? I come on the ball at around 2 o'clock .

[@mpmp7609]

Hi, really thanks for your tips and advices.... I do slice "quite" well but don't understand what ypu said on the wirst "don't break" cause for me the energy transfer comes from legs , body turn ... and finally the wirst (for me). I do an acceleration with the wirst just before the contact point to make the more effe t i can but don't understand HOW can i produce the slice effect with pronation. When i do slice serve my wirst go straight on but absolutely NO pronation. As if the 2 mouvement were a contradiction for me in fact. BUT ! Curiously i suffer a lot with my elbow and speciallyon serve ! Surely a thing that i do bad , thing i misunderstood so if you could illuminate my poor brain and help me to fix it, i would thank you a lot . Hurry to see your answer , and thank for your vid that you certainly do with passion. I ,we, can feel it. So thanks a lot.

[@topage777]

thank u

[@alfettaracer7811]

Thx very helpfull

[@pacerdave7838]

Not clear where on the ball you start to hit left to right. Inside and around, like 9-3? Outside starting at 3 and around? Please clarify

[@15PointsOfTennis]

The clock analogy refers to the toss/contact point. Ball will curve the opposite direction at which you brush it.

[@pacerdave7838]

Ok but I was looking for where on the clock I start. I assume 3 o’clock I brush right to left

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Yes, for me it’s easiest to start at 3 o’clock to feel the spin. Then slowly move it up to 12 if you decide to learn disguise.

[@omkkarmallesh7020]

Nice

[@willa5701]

Good video! When I first started using the slice, the ball had a hard break and kicked off the court or into my opponent's backhand while I'm on the AD side...I'm a lefty...now here lately, the ball has just been floating into the court and I feel like i'm doing the same motion as before. Also i'm double faulting a lil more than before as well cause I'm trying to get my slice back to where it was before. Any suggestions on how to fixed that?

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Lots of variables on the serve.. if u shoot me a clip of ur serve I can repost it with my feedback on 15 points of tennis Instagram

[@willa5701]

@@15PointsOfTennis cool thanks! i'll see if i can get something out to you soon.

[@bzockster]

I notice that you’re choked up on the racquet during the demos. I feel that I can increase racquet head speed with a choked up grip. What are your thoughts?

[@schachoe]

Still trying to figure out this stop and pop.

[@LubaLuba1]

Also at 12 at the baseline there isn't much forward power so I think you need to toss into the court a lil

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Tossing into the court has some nuance as well. An idea for a future vid!

[@KENGHUABAI]

Can you show us how to pronate after ball contact? I can slice the ball really hard but my follow through is not pronation.

[@15PointsOfTennis]

If u can, send me a clip of ur serve on Instagram.. I’ll take a look. Will prob be a future video

[@vaiyapurivs9371]

Veryfinepractice

[@svarodzic]

+1 for the effort. Your slice serve is effective only b/c you are playing againts low level players. It has nothing on it. Doesn't even have a 2nd boundce into the fence, which means it is raughly 70-80mph. Every top level serve, and I mean every flat, slice or kick has pronation. If there is no pronation - it is not the correct serve technique. In this light it is very funny how you compare your serve (which doesn't even have the right kinematic) to Federer's.

[@felixpitre9784]

Wish you could show the exercise in slo mo. Thanks. Beginner in 70’s

[@dom9187]

how do i avoid hitting my knees? what am i doing wrong?

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Haven’t seen your serve but think finish by your left pocket? Perhaps the toss throws the swing path off. I’ll discuss this in the future but let the racquet tip snap through (with your elbow up) instead of bringing your shoulder down through and past contact. If you watch Sampras serve, the follow through is relatively compact. Hope that helps.

[@dom9187]

​@@15PointsOfTennis ok i'll give it a shot! thanks :)

[@yakzivz1104]

Serena and Stosur also toss the ball at 12 for all of their serves as well.

[@TheGeohart]

are you looking for a more discreet slice, or more dynamic slice, should not one be aiming at a more demonic slice...(lol). But that is, just me. Love the channel, your a great coach!

[@Minifridge147]

Very good tutorial. You are very good at analyzing down to the finest detail, and those littlest things are what makes it that much better. Excellent cant wait to try it tomorrow. I am subscribed. Question it looks like you are not worried about speed more on technique. Is it because you are showing how to do it do you hit them faster or just going for more placement and action? Thanks

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Not 100% sure I got the question right but I generally like focusing on getting the technique right before hitting harder... my mistake early on was trying to swing too fast w out fundamentals and everything kept breaking down. Thx for subscribing!

[@jchangesqlawcenter]

How do you get such a fluid snap?

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Thanks for asking Jacob.. the next series of videos will be focused around the wrist.

[@ahnguyen1]

what usta level are you?

[@LubaLuba1]

Hey you want to viewers to leave comments but you never answer any. I just want to know is the spin or the force on the ball taking it why 3:11???

[@speedmishra13]

Thanks for the great tip! Is the “don’t ever break your wrist” only meant for a slice serve or all serves?

[@chopp2042]

listen to the pro, ace on second serve!

[@cynthiaatwell4280]

Why is it called a "slice serve" when it hooks? Slice moves left to right for a right hander and hook moves right to left for a right hander (just the opposite if you are a lefty)...

[@15PointsOfTennis]

Idk good point. Slicing a low FH moves left to right for a least

[@stefan85300]

Tennis serve is above your head. Golf shot is below. So it would be opposite direction.