(1626) What ARE Those Keys?

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BosnianBill

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@JoeHamelin
@JoeHamelin 5 жыл бұрын
Love keys. They are what started me at a young age on my lock journey. For Christmas I gave my nephew a starter lockpick set with the Sparrows cut away practice locks. He's very mechanically inclined and love them. Here's to the next generation of lock sporters.
@robomoto5550
@robomoto5550 5 жыл бұрын
I never realised how interesting old keys could be. I could spend hours digging through Bills collection of locks and keys.
@pczajkowski9
@pczajkowski9 5 жыл бұрын
Old keys can be really beautiful. And it's really nice you got that key and lock paired together!
@markbernier8434
@markbernier8434 5 жыл бұрын
I have a key on my ring that looks like the worn one. Had it there since my teens. I can say it takes about 50 years in your pocket. Still works.
@shanetheundertaker8474
@shanetheundertaker8474 5 жыл бұрын
The embossed box design on the Yale key js an impression of an Escutcheon ! 👍 😉 . . . Love your work ! ! ! Thankyou !
@two_tier_gary_rumain
@two_tier_gary_rumain 5 жыл бұрын
I've never seen an escutcheon that looked like that. They usually look like the outline of a keyhole. :)
@jsnpressley
@jsnpressley 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool history on those Yale keys. I collect old keys as well. I have several thousand keys, but I've never gotten around to organizing them. After watching this video I think I'm going to try and make some time to get them in order and see if I have any hidden gems like those. Thanks for the information Bill 😁
@billhenderson731
@billhenderson731 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought, that if you have enough keys of a certain brand, you might eventually get a ‘match’ with a similarly branded padlock. Probably a great feeling when that happens eh?
@OneOfDisease
@OneOfDisease 5 жыл бұрын
On older production locks they probably only had 1000 or so different variations of keys cut to reduce manufacturing costs. As people used as a main source of labor.
@billhenderson731
@billhenderson731 5 жыл бұрын
Oneofdazzz That’s true
@Melds
@Melds 5 жыл бұрын
Matching random keys to a particular lock is a fairly low probability, but once you try multiple keys against multiple locks, the odds of any match drop pretty quickly.
@eyellgeteven9928
@eyellgeteven9928 5 жыл бұрын
I've saved keys to locks that either do not exist anymore because they were cut or seriously damaged, lost, or just worn out, and must have hundreds of keys I've collected over the decades. I've actually had it happen a few times, where I tried my orphan keys in random locks and they actually work in orphaned locks I just found. To answer the question...hells yes, it does feel good!
@fbidetector4343
@fbidetector4343 4 жыл бұрын
Eyellgeteven can i have some of your keys
@fbidetector4343
@fbidetector4343 5 жыл бұрын
As I am a key collector, this is officially my favorite video you’ve made!
@InsaneFirebat
@InsaneFirebat 5 жыл бұрын
I used to collect unused keys when I was very young. Didn't keep up with that interest as I grew up though and all those keys are long gone now. Kinda wish I still had them now that I have a picking hobby. Sure would be handy to have a box full of random keys to pin up my practice locks.
@two_tier_gary_rumain
@two_tier_gary_rumain 5 жыл бұрын
You can pick up keys by the pound on eBay. Prices vary. However, if you know what you're looking for, it would be easier just to get a few keys of the appropriate profile.
@RuneInternational
@RuneInternational 5 жыл бұрын
I have been collecting keys from about age 2, and I have more than I can count. There is really something special about an old key that shows sign of being part of an active life for many years.
@JOHNHOOK1966
@JOHNHOOK1966 5 жыл бұрын
The old Corbin keys are beautiful - nice designs, nickle-silver.
@two_tier_gary_rumain
@two_tier_gary_rumain 5 жыл бұрын
Damn it, Bill! I've been collecting old Yale keys on eBay for the last month, whenever they show up. And usually winning the auctions because nobody else bids. Now I'm going to have serious competition and prices will probably double.
@eyellgeteven9928
@eyellgeteven9928 5 жыл бұрын
I love the worn out keys the most for some reason...it's interesting to think about who carried them for so long it wore the features off of the key. I remember when I was a teenager I noticed the ignition key to my dad's '72 chevy pickup was so worn that the whole key was so thin it looked like it might break off in the lock. It took about 15 years to wear that key down that far. He started to worry about that, so he got a copy of his spare and used that until he sold the truck...I remember being so disappointed that he threw the old thin key away, instead of hanging on to it so I could have it. At this point, I've worn down quite a few keys in my lifetime...and I'm still doing it to a lot of keys now.
@bikkies
@bikkies 2 жыл бұрын
Just as you muse over the life an old key has seen, I have similar thoughts over some of my vintage fountain pens. I can only speculate who held them, what words they wrote and in what frame of mind - anger, joy, despondency - I will never know. All these artefacts are all the more collectable because of these unknowns, which adds to their charm.
@anselb2000
@anselb2000 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the entertainment and fun you have provided in the last several years!
@hihu7200
@hihu7200 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a few keys at an antique shop a few months ago. The owner of the antique shop said that a local locksmith retired and sold him a bunch of old locks and keys. I bought a lever lock and a few keys for $1 each. They were on an old string and the owner of the antique store was nice enough to let me untie and the retie the string and pick some keys out. I think I got a Yale key. I am sure I got an old Master Lock key. I also bought a small Yale Jr. lock. It looks like it is a suitcase size lock. It will be fun to try to pick. That is my amazingly insightful and astounding input for this video. You are welcome! :) Happy New Years everyone!
@AC9DJ
@AC9DJ 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic look at old keys and how the designs evolved. Wonewoc is only a couple hour drive from me and is a neat little scenic tourist town, the bank has since merged and is now part of the Barboo State Bank.
@ImGumbyDangit
@ImGumbyDangit 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic find. I love how the old key and lock come together from across the country.
@MirceaD28
@MirceaD28 5 жыл бұрын
I see in the back the tool that LPL and you made. Nice. They took pride in their work.
@williambivens5709
@williambivens5709 2 жыл бұрын
I delt with the Glendale lock co. back in the 1970's. They were closing to make way for the galleria. Got some cool old locks there
@tjsynkral
@tjsynkral 5 жыл бұрын
3:01 “SECURITY”
@-42-47
@-42-47 5 жыл бұрын
Masterlock could use that stamp
@philthejet
@philthejet 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. It goes to show how much great craftmanship has changed over the years, in all domains, cars, keys, locks, safes, machines of all sorts. I visited an automobile museum last week in France and saw a whole collections of Bugattis from the 1920s to the 50s and was I ever blown away from the incredible craftmanship of those days.
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 5 жыл бұрын
As a converted key collector of course I watch this channel I just also happen to be converting myself to also collecting locks now thanks
@AlbertLebel
@AlbertLebel 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I too have bought a box of keys when I first started getting into locks. It was a random pile and it was cheap. I still have them under my work bench waiting for a second life or something. Have a wonderful New Year Bill. Stay safe
@two_tier_gary_rumain
@two_tier_gary_rumain 5 жыл бұрын
When you can find the time, you should look at sorting them. It might be surprising what you find.
@bigMmarshall
@bigMmarshall 5 жыл бұрын
Really like this video, I have over 250 old keys and back in the day when I used to collect old locks some of these keys actually opened a few
@mariakathleen1064
@mariakathleen1064 2 жыл бұрын
I have two metal keys that have a logo that looks like a "w" or a cursive "ui" and the numbers k 53 60 stamped on them. I can't for the life of me identify them and I hesitate to throw them out, in the event they belong to something important. Unlike a house key, the key is cut on both sides, more like a car key, however I can't find any car makers with a w or a ui logo. Might you know who the maker of the key is or have any info to help me, please? Thank you.
@kevinbacon5142
@kevinbacon5142 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with the other comments. That was a great video in something as simple as key history. And... the old Yale key found its lock!!!! Thank you, BosnianBill, for the great videos!
@RoeLunatic4ever
@RoeLunatic4ever 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, that match! Nice!!!!
@Lockpicker1973
@Lockpicker1973 5 жыл бұрын
Possibly the coolest video ever eap.the 100 year old lock and key mating up.
@MrRShoaf
@MrRShoaf 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff's Locksmiths is on Arden Way in Sacramento. The "Neuter Bow" started in the 80's.
@haydenyork8414
@haydenyork8414 5 жыл бұрын
I just started collecting keys this month. I'm new to Locksport.
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 5 жыл бұрын
Back in the day of working in the scrapyards, we had sets of keys for all popular makes like the Ford "ring" was like 10 pounds in weight as we just shoved keys on a long loop of wire and usually something from the loops fitted so we could pair it up with a boot lock or an ignition lock. 1960's cars were immense fun, you could get a arm from a lucas windscreen wiper, snap off the wipey bit and the bit that bolted to the motor and the thin flat steel would start original Mini's, Ford Escorts, Harry Potter Ford Anglia's, basically anything.
@SomeRogueAI
@SomeRogueAI 5 жыл бұрын
"Jeff's Locksmiths Sacramento" Huh, that's my name, I'm from there, and I'm also interested in locks. What a coincidence.
@stonent
@stonent 5 жыл бұрын
The worn key was probably on a key-ring that spent a lot of time in the middle. The fob probably helped enforce the keys staying in their order.
@bradw0535
@bradw0535 5 жыл бұрын
Crazy that the key worked in that old Yale! You may want to go purchase some lottery tickets Bill! Thanks as always for the video, and the generous giveaway.
@Westhelockpicker
@Westhelockpicker 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a tray from you just like that! It's cool to have something from the lock lab!
@drewestes
@drewestes 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool old keys Bill!
@Petertronic
@Petertronic 5 жыл бұрын
The envelopes are called covers in stamp-collecting lingo. See "Cover (philately)" on wikipedia. Great video!
@AThreeDogNight
@AThreeDogNight 5 жыл бұрын
Nice antique keys & a very sweet giveaway, thanks Bill.
@OnefastAZfarmtruck
@OnefastAZfarmtruck 4 жыл бұрын
I have boxes of each of old Yale, master Kwikset American and Schlage blanks with a locksmiths name pre stamped into them. The locksmith is long out of business but it's cool to cut new keys on those blanks keeping them "alive"
@roysammons2445
@roysammons2445 5 жыл бұрын
🔐Great video about keys🔑 When the registered charity I work for moved to another (our present) building I was handed a drawer full of old keys from the building we occupied. I managed to find a few locks that some of keys fit. The rest I just chucked away 😱What was I thinking!!!!!
@doorandlocktips
@doorandlocktips 2 жыл бұрын
How much fun can a person have it depends on how many keys you have to success and it looks like you’ve have started your collection bravo #Lockboss
@monkeyfingerslocksport6429
@monkeyfingerslocksport6429 5 жыл бұрын
What a great video thanks for shearing it with us.
@f.k.burnham8491
@f.k.burnham8491 5 жыл бұрын
Often postage stamp collectors also collect covers, aka "paper". Some collect for cities, states, dates, cancellations, or pictures on the front of the envelopes or post cards. The one with the 1908 cancellation is Scott Cat. 319, or any one of a sub set of it depending on color and plate markings or flaws. Value: Somewhere between $ .30 and $1000.00, catalog value, depending on the above, rarity, and watermark type, if any. A specialist would need to examine it to be certain of its real value.
@lwilton
@lwilton 5 жыл бұрын
I believe Bostwick is still around, or they were relatively recently. Made office equipment like staplers, labeling machines, and drafting supplies if I recall correctly.
@caseydarrah
@caseydarrah 3 жыл бұрын
Different company. Bostwick-Braun is a hardware distributor in Toledo since 1855.
@stonent
@stonent 5 жыл бұрын
Corbin is still around as far as I know.
@evilborg
@evilborg 4 жыл бұрын
I love old and crazy shape keys... the odder/older the better
@caseydarrah
@caseydarrah 3 жыл бұрын
Bostwick-Braun still exists- they're a hardware and tool distributor, opened in Toledo in the 1850s. Odds are good it was an invoice from Corbin.
@MH-bv9kk
@MH-bv9kk 5 жыл бұрын
Old and odd keys are how I got interested in locks to begin with. Now I'm all about who makes the craziest high security mechanical lock and keys. I think that honor currently goes to the Fichet F3D. :-)
@Pyrolock
@Pyrolock 5 жыл бұрын
Very Interesting -- I learned a few things I hadn't even thought about -- Thanks for Sharing
@peha524
@peha524 2 жыл бұрын
An 100-years old lock finds its key.........what a love story.
@kareno8634
@kareno8634 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see i'm not the only one that likes Old Keys. I've always liked Old things. lol Wonder if it's considered Old by the original owner? I was about 7 - my Grandmother (born 1891) gave me a Lion Key we saw in her box of 'treasures' : } Still have it. _Thanks Gammy _*_~- *_*
@Jorqell
@Jorqell 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff's Locksmiths are still in business.
@DonzLockz
@DonzLockz 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Bill. Cool how that key opened that lock. They surely don't make keys like that anymore.
@taylorchapman7015
@taylorchapman7015 5 жыл бұрын
The 3rd key has the work "security" along the warding. Never seen that before. I obtained a ton of olf keys when my neighbor passed away. Yale, ABUS, American, and a bunch ofsafe deposit box keys.
@two_tier_gary_rumain
@two_tier_gary_rumain 5 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, Yale were the only ones to stamp anything along the blade. Either "SECURITY" or some patent details.
@spinyuk
@spinyuk 5 жыл бұрын
*Loving* the old letters!
@LogicBob
@LogicBob 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing Bill!
@GodsGladiator
@GodsGladiator 5 жыл бұрын
Cool to see Toledo mentioned. Look up McElheny Locksmith they have been around Toledo forever. They do all our keys. The shop is cool they have hundreds of super old safes and locks
@andrewshagoury2288
@andrewshagoury2288 5 жыл бұрын
I had to look up information about the envelope. Corbin Cabinet Lock is still in business as CCL Security Products. They moved to Wheeling, IL. They had several patent lawsuits the went to the Supreme Court in the 1890's. Bostwick-Braun is also still in business in Toledo, OH.
@robbieedward8773
@robbieedward8773 4 жыл бұрын
very interesting. remember in the 1970's ordering proper yale keys to the code stamped on key, 12a044. needless to say they worked perfect. from yale in england .
@tank625
@tank625 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool pieces of history
@TonyFleetwood
@TonyFleetwood 5 жыл бұрын
Corbin and russwin are now together in berlin Ct. They make other door hardware there too now!
@ronaross1
@ronaross1 5 жыл бұрын
I liked this video of the keys of days gone bye. Now I have the motivation to go in the garage and dig through my grandfathers things as I remember an old large brass Yale lock which I would love to find. If I remember right, I think there were a lot of old lock keys.
@fbidetector4343
@fbidetector4343 2 жыл бұрын
Please do! I collect locks and keys and would love to see them, if you could, please do a video!
@gkeyman565
@gkeyman565 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, I got one old Yale with a key a year before three others without keys all different years and models, yet the one key fit all four perfectly, two were of the smaller dark rectangular two were large tapered body styles. Always test your keys in new missing key locks, you never know.
@dh.5356
@dh.5356 5 жыл бұрын
Time capsule! Cool stuff! Thanks!
@lukabogdanovich6986
@lukabogdanovich6986 5 жыл бұрын
Bill check out how much those stamps cost it’ll blow you away keep up the good videos and throw in a few like this once in a while they’re great Love cool old stuff
@lmars5933
@lmars5933 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video buddy. 😎
@pyratemage
@pyratemage 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool keys. If they could talk....
@thumperlockpicking9269
@thumperlockpicking9269 5 жыл бұрын
Cool historical stories
@InifintyLefty
@InifintyLefty 5 жыл бұрын
I have that same Yale lock,no key...I've only SPPD it once and racked it open twice. Beautiful lock.
@PaulSteMarie
@PaulSteMarie 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know how much they would actually save by getting rid of the beading and the textured background on the key bows. I would assume that the entire decoration is formed in a single operation, just stamping it with a pair of coining dies. The fancier coining dies are obviously more expensive to make but that's a one-time cost. They should be pretty durable.
@llloyd4
@llloyd4 5 жыл бұрын
Well, as far as I know, and I could be wrong here, lock manufactures only use a limited set of permutations for the bitting so finding a key that fits a lock from the same manufacture wouldn't be that incredible? I work at a big box home improvement store and I know that if you buy multiple door lock kits with the same code on the back the keys will work on all the sets.
@gkeyman5652
@gkeyman5652 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's an old video but maybe someone will find this interesting, I got four Yale locks 1st one with a key and 3 the next year without, all were different style and body types, yet the 1 key fit all four, how's that for luck! Have great day, and hope Bill and family are doing great!
@MayhemKeys
@MayhemKeys 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful old keys. Branded keys by yale just have their name on one side now. I don't know if it's cost saving or what. At least the yale para keys are like this.
@nazfrde
@nazfrde 5 жыл бұрын
On the second Yale lock, the 4-digit number on the back is totally different from the number on the front.
@jeffmoss26
@jeffmoss26 5 жыл бұрын
PS - Bostwick Braun is still around, they are a wholesale distributor to hardware stores.
@esper6119
@esper6119 5 жыл бұрын
I CHEERED WHEN THE KEY WORKED
@barthamburg4351
@barthamburg4351 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Bill. And another great giveaway. Have a nice rest of your weekend
@timbober1
@timbober1 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable video!
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 5 жыл бұрын
One thing that I'm a bit curious about is how lock cylinders are manufactured - are they forged around a die that shapes the keyway or how is it done?
@hullinstruments
@hullinstruments 5 жыл бұрын
I love keys as well. I’m not really in the lock picking hobby or anything, Although I do have a few sets of picks. but I visit a local scrapyard almost every day buying old government electronics and industrial goodies to tinker with. I check their brass bucket daily, and buy all keys from the 1980s or earlier. I’ve got about 150 pounds of keys, organized by date in four large 12 x 12“ boxes. I’ve got a lot of old skeleton keys but mostly I collect keys like to the ones in your video. Not quite old enough to be skeleton keys but some of the first production keys… As they are beautiful and intricate. I find many of keys that will open locks they weren’t originally paired with. A lot of my Yale keys will open Yale locks from the same time period. I always assumed there were only 100 or so different shapes of Yale key? I don’t know for a fact though. Regarding the Diebold lock company, they were my neighbors for several years… they had a small service center next to my workshop. And they allowed me to go through their scrap pile anytime And disassemble ATM machines and old safes… all kinds of electronica safe locks and interesting things.. It was always a lot of fun and some of those modern and intricate ATM machines are what got me into electronics. About a decade ago.
@jeffschoonover9341
@jeffschoonover9341 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully this will be seen (and be helpful). The squared head key imprinted with Jeff’s locks (or close) is a blank made by a company in AZ called Kustom Keys www.kustomkey.com/ and they specialize in custom designed and imprinted blanks for most common key ways. Where I work we use them extensively.
@chevylandt.v
@chevylandt.v 5 жыл бұрын
So cool I have that Same thing happen to me but abus lock. Still have it to this day
@JeepinBoon
@JeepinBoon 5 жыл бұрын
Wish I could stumble upon a key for my Yale RR lock. Looks exactly like yours. I got 130 Yale keys from a long gone hardware store in Vicksburg ms but non open. This lock is a bugger... the pins drop inside the wards.
@nich882
@nich882 5 жыл бұрын
I really wonder if that’s the original key and the two were separated and then came back together or if it was just something that was cut similarly. Either way it’s cool!
@derekbroestler7687
@derekbroestler7687 5 жыл бұрын
Most likely they were just cut to the same bitting (though you never know).... Back at the shop I used to work at, which had been in business since 1883, my boss the third generation to take over, had loads of the OLD manufacturers code books, (so that you could look up the bitting from the key code) including the one for Yale, It was printed in the 20's and was only about 25 pages, with maybe 50 codes per page... which was pretty impressive actually considering that would give about 1250 factory pinned combinations.... by comparison today, Kwikset uses less than 600. So even if it's not the original key, it's still a pretty long shot that and random old Yale key would work a separately purchased random Yale lock.
@two_tier_gary_rumain
@two_tier_gary_rumain 5 жыл бұрын
@@derekbroestler7687 The old Yale padlock has a code on the front bezel of the plug. It could be the bitting code. Looks to be 27218? Could look that up, cut a key to match and see if it works. Of course, if the bitting doesn't match the key that Bill has that opens it, but is close, it probably means that some of the pin stacks are empty or gunked up at the sheer line. But that can be easily checked too.
@derekbroestler7687
@derekbroestler7687 5 жыл бұрын
​@@two_tier_gary_rumain I didn't notice that at first but you're right on the lock stamp.... I KNOW it's it's not a factory stamped direct bitting code... Yale cross coded ALL their stuff back then.....I THOUGHT it might be a direct code from a locksmith, but then I took another look at the key and there's NO way that's it.. Last cut COULD be an 8, but NO way second was EVER a a 7, (even if you reverse it, as was fairly common back then, number 4 cut could never be a 7 either)..... Looking at it I'm thinking direct bitting MIGHT be closer to 14448 (that's considering what it looks like NOW, not what it "should be"... Not a 100% shot in the dark, but I wouldn't put money on it since it's worn AF, and I flat out suck at sight reading Yale keys... Pin stacks being empty would be extremely unlikely on something like that, as they really weren't made to be serviced or rekeyed. It didn't leave the factory with missing pins I can say almost 100%... Yale's QC was tight AF back then, I mean they'd literally just invented the modern pin tumbler lock less than 100 years earlier, they didn't want to muck that up... and culturally no shop apprentice would have lasted long making those sorts of mistakes... Gottra remember, that was back when the boss would actually get away with hitting you with his walking stick (or even a hammer) over making even the smallest mistake, and your choices were "take it or lose your job"... A previous comb pick attack that got some pins damaged and permanently bound up above the cylinder plug, MIGHT be possible... I don't know the total chamber depths on that lock cylinder so I don't even know if that would be possible... REALLY early Yale was susceptible to that attack, but by this time I THINK they had their game on point... Easy enough to check in person, just run the flat of a pick through it, "do all five pins seem to be there" if they are, that rules that out. Possible on pins 2, 3, and 4, but still a long shot. Gunked up to the point of accidental unlocks, would also be unlikely, I mean think about it... locks USUALLY get gunked up when the key ISN'T inside them, so when antique padlocks are that gunked up, they tend to be gunked up in the "good luck getting it open even with the right key" sort of way.... It's POSSIBLE if someone had the key in it and kept it next to their ashtray while they chain smoked for 40 years... or left the key in it on their shed in the weather for decades, but unlikely... Especially since the lock looks to be in pretty good shape. That DOES lead to one other issue though, as to why said key worked in said lock, discounting just blind luck, even with "just 1250 factory combinations" (which does happen, and I can't discredit) , which would be a lot more likely if both are heavily used (and after 100 years, it's either barely used or heavily used, we can see at least the key is heavily used).... and that's wear, and on in something that old it's on BOTH the key AND the lock... It's not uncommon for a lock and key THAT old to be so worn that BOTH have worn to one or two cuts +/- off what they SHOULD be... From what I remember (and I could very well be wrong, it's been a while) Yale codes were progressive not randomized, so depending on wear on the lock and key, a lock stamped 27218 might open with a key with less or more wear in the 27224 to 27210 (or so) range depending on wear on both lock and key.... (honestly, I think that would make it MORE awesome myself) That leads into a problem with looking it up and just code cutting a new one... I have in my collection a completely factory original Yale knob and factory original key to it from a house built in the 40's... (BEAUTIFUL solid hardwood door.... homeowners were "modernizing" after grandma died.... went with Kwikset hardware..... que Obi Wan voice "how uncivilized" ) the factory stamped key code is 60A745 (no stamp on the cylinder)... When I looked that up to code cut new keys for it, I actually found it, but they didn't work... I can duplicate the ORIGINAL key and it'll work fine, but put it on a caliper the depths are all over the place, they barely even look like anything remotely identifiable as Yale cuts, I mean they're "Sorta there" but still off depending on cuts.... Smaller cuts being worn a LOT less and deeper cuts a LOT more on the pins (due to spring tension), with the opposite on the key (provided shallow cuts don't follow deep cuts, bow to tip)... take the cylinder apart and the original key is spot on, code cut keys are REALLY noticeably either high or low..... (like the the point where yould look at it and go, "SORTA close, but DEFINITELY the wrong key") To randomize it even more, original keypins of that era were rounded, not pointed, so they're less affected by wear overall, BUT... The manufacturing process for them was inherently not metallurgically uniform, so SOME pins might be harder or softer than others... No big deal, until 100+ years of use later... Then even the same length pins can, not always DO, but can show different wear... One of the reasons I love these old locks, just like people, after a long enough time, some generalizations can be made, but they damn sure develop their own "personality"... Sometimes ya just gonna shake your head and think "OK..... Well...... that's different...." but appreciate that it's even still functional after this long. Failing all of my other possible theories on this lock... "Bill's just magic like that" and "The old Yale was just scared of him and decided to open with any key" also seem like plausible options... lol
@two_tier_gary_rumain
@two_tier_gary_rumain 5 жыл бұрын
@@derekbroestler7687 Actually, this style of lock can be easily rekeyed. It just requires the knocking out of the two retaining pins in the lock body. The outside of the lock turns out to be a covering sleeve and the core of the lock is attached to the base plate. There is a trick to removing it successfully, however, as there's a catch. Bill took one apart a few months back but Chris Capune's channel has the best info on these sorts of locks. You can mostly find Yales in this style but also Ilcos and, to a lesser extent, Lockwoods. Plenty of old ones to play around with on eBay but you can also find the zero-bitted ones in locksmith's form (a little rarer but can still be found if you're patient). These usually come with an instruction sheet for assembly. Chris Capune has an example of one of those. So, the only way to be sure is to disassemble it and check the pinning. That's why I suspected at least one of the pin stacks was empty or gunked up - allowing a similar key to work.
@derekbroestler7687
@derekbroestler7687 5 жыл бұрын
@@two_tier_gary_rumain Huh, well I guess I learn something new every day. I'd seen one or two of these old Yale's come in, we just cut to code, or impressioned them any they always worked, so I just assumed they couldn't be easily dissembled (and reassembled securely) without damage.... . Give that's the case, then yes, it's WOULD be likely that some pin stacks are empty... I've seen LOADS of locks that someone else repinned and left chambers empty (I can't fathom WHY, people do this for a lock on someone's front door, but I see it enough to know it's a thing)... Heck, I've seen some that only had one or two pin stacks in them... SMDH.... Thanks for the correction, like I said, learn something new everyday.... I'll look into those videos.
@TankEpidemic
@TankEpidemic 4 жыл бұрын
I have one of those exact yale padlocks. Not good enough to pick it yet but I'd like to know more information about this type of lock. Can't seem to find any info online about this specific lock because I don't know how to search for this no name model.
@IsYitzach
@IsYitzach 5 жыл бұрын
What are the odds that key fits that lock? Judging by Lock Picking Lawyer's video 1016, pretty good. I hear that auto mechanics will go to great lengths to make sure your key stays with your vehicle because they can be similar enough that your key could work in someone else's car but not for "very" long as the keys and locks wear down.
@christurley391
@christurley391 5 жыл бұрын
You don't need no stinking key. Lol Thanks for the video.
@lightdark00
@lightdark00 5 жыл бұрын
Where's the video link on that kit at the end?
@choochoochooseyou
@choochoochooseyou 5 жыл бұрын
Bill, do you think that is the actual key for that lock or just very similar bitting?
@bosnianbill
@bosnianbill 5 жыл бұрын
Just lucky I think.
@RealUnimportant
@RealUnimportant 5 жыл бұрын
It seems Bill forgot to add the link to the review, so here it is - video 1324: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmSwp5mfrttgY6c
@Romuls753
@Romuls753 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many locks out there would work with keys that had never even seen each other just out of probability
@rossw9764
@rossw9764 5 жыл бұрын
Try googling Jeff’s Locksmith in Sacramento. There site came up.
@Skeptic2006
@Skeptic2006 4 жыл бұрын
You didn't know there are people who collect old paper? Cmon, these guys are the bane of every Ebay buyer. Postcard, poster, stamp, paper... Throw it in the trash where it belongs!
@doublejaylar
@doublejaylar 5 жыл бұрын
It's better to have a key & not need it...than need it & not have it! Unless you're BosnianBill, then you "don't need the stinkin' keys".
@QlueDuPlessis
@QlueDuPlessis 5 жыл бұрын
Woah. Some of those bittings are looking awfully familiar.
@ThaFuzzwood
@ThaFuzzwood 5 жыл бұрын
It could almost be the plot of some soppy love story.
@kareno8634
@kareno8634 5 жыл бұрын
lol Could be when those memories start _rolling in._ ah yes . . . ~ 'back in the day'. = ]
@deanmarktaylor
@deanmarktaylor 5 жыл бұрын
I once had a padlock just like that one.
@Phred_Phlintstoner
@Phred_Phlintstoner 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the link in the description for the review of the multipick key casting kit? I just see the regular links that are normally there. I think you forgot to add it after saying so in the video Bill.
@MyTube4Utoo
@MyTube4Utoo 5 жыл бұрын
My brother started collecting keys when he was like 8. I thought he was weird, found out later it was me! *lol*
@AussieG87
@AussieG87 5 жыл бұрын
I have a master lock and the key has a lion on it. Thought it was nifty.
@two_tier_gary_rumain
@two_tier_gary_rumain 5 жыл бұрын
They're surprisingly common, actually. Show up on eBay all the time.
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