(1685) Using ThePickThatLPL&IMade

In video 1685 I'll demonstrate how to use ThePickThatLPL&IMade on a standard disc detainer lock. I'll point out tool tweaks, how to adjust it for comfortable use, describe the feedback you'll get, and demonstrate what to look for when picking the discs.
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[@bmitch3020]

Alternate title: "How to be gentle with your tip" Almost thought this was a LPL April Fool's video.

[@cumulusvapes7]

Just the tip thats all he needs :P

[@MrSpirit99]

2nd step aim 3rd step go deep.

[@therealtampadude9175]

The deeper you stick it in, the gentler you have to be with the tip.

[@HJZ75driver]

Just the tip, and only for a minute

[@phoenixbelmont4488]

Thank you for sharing your time and knowledge. Enjoy your retirement. Stay Safe, Stay Legal.

[@alleycatlordoflunes9689]

Likewise my wellwishes, you boys have been a trove of knowledge over the last decade

[@lmars5933]

GREAT Review Bill absolutely amazing New Tool waiting for more stock great price point one pick for many disc locks instead of having many picks great job and THANK you Bill and LPL. for designing it.🌟⭐🌟⭐🌟😎

[@mikeyfloden2266]

I have practiced so many pin and tumbler locks and have 1 "training" lock that's a disc detainer core that I have been waiting months to try and pick. I have waited since I saw the first prototype you guys made and decided not to buy a cheap knock off. I can not wait to get my hands on one and try. So happy Sparrows picked it up and started producing them! I hope they are back on stock soon.

[@Codebreaker4981]

I don't think Bill is happy with the finished product. When we were waiting for this to be produced and Bill and lock picking lawyer was using the prototype I didn't hear a single word about a weak tip. I'm going to hold fire in ordering one at the moment until I hear the reports from the people who bought them first. I'm not convinced at the moment on the quality.

[@bosnianbill]

On the contrary, I couldn't be happier with the way the pick turned out. The only reason I focused on the tip was to forewarn new DD pickers about overtensioning. When I first began picking disc detainers with the old Chinese pick I tended to use too much tension and broke off a few tips before figuring things out. I was simply trying to help people avoid that pain. Insofar as these tips, they are some of the strongest that I have seen - and I've bought from several different sources as well as making them myself. Still, the tip's metal is, by necessity, thin to match the discs and will not tolerate huge amounts of tension or it'll twist off. Fortunately, these locks do not NEED heavy tension. Good luck on your wait. I spoke w/a Sparrows rep via email and they are literally shut down during the pandemic and wouldn't say when more picks would be ready. I sincerely hope it is sooner rather than later! Stay well!

[@Codebreaker4981]

@@bosnianbill thanks Bill for getting back to me. You have reassured me. When they are back in stock I will get one and give it a bash. To all my lock picking friends, stay safe, look after each other and I hope that you all have a Blessed Easter 👍

[@chuckhabrack3330]

This has to be a different one than LPL talks about because he refers to it as the Pick that Bosnianbill and I made and your calling the the Pick that LPL and I made. HUMMM LOL great tool for those in the sport picking world.

[@wiktorwektor123]

You're absolutely right, this has to be a different pick.

[@maxgarascia]

It's a Sasquatch tool I heard a lot about it , seen a couple videos but I don't think it's real.

[@maxgarascia]

It's the Sasquatch pick we've all heard a lot about it and seen some videos but I don't know anybody who has one or seen one in real life

[@Vinlaell]

What are you trying to say?

[@zaheerahman7266]

Does anyone know when they will be releasing their second round of Detainer picks?

[@RowToney]

Happy retirement, Bill. The knowledge you shared through your channel is immeasurable.

[@DonzLockz]

Great they are finally released. Now everyone can say, "I'm gonna pick this lock with the pick that Bosnian Bill & LPL made". Lol. I will try to get one on the next batch.👍👍👍

[@mrdarn]

you would think so, but they are sold out, and pre-order is $1,000,000.00

[@KeylessEntry]

Don'z Lockz Yeah it's been a long time coming. Imagine every video using this tool actually says that though😂 They did sell out pretty quick but I think I might wait for some more review vids as I have the Black Flags😬

[@GreyHazRoot]

@@KeylessEntry same here. Sparrows made me nervous of their new stuff after the Black Flags

[@KeylessEntry]

Grey HazRoot I'd have to agree

[@DonzLockz]

@@KeylessEntry yup, the black flag set should be removed from sale. I think the DD pick has the quality as it needs to be very precise and BB & LPL were overseeing it with progress input. The black flag set looks the part but the steel is worse than chinesium. We see ppl hocking off the black flags in giveaways. Lol

[@BadxMike]

it's perfect! the tool goes in and out, left and right, and twists to hit that sweet slot. yep thats the excuse im giving my wife to buy it

[@markzaikov456]

be gentle with the tip though

[@devilsadvocate1597]

and plz edit this to "sweet spot" and not "sweet slot"... your wife will love you even more!

[@N4w4k]

Bosnian Bill and The Lock Picking Lawyer made a pick?? I never heard of that!! :)

[@josealmeida5768]

😂

[@jamesfair9751]

There is a whole series following the progression from idea to working prototype

[@hellothisismyopinion4162]

@@jamesfair9751 woooosh?

[@miguelfrancisco7094]

fucking idiot

[@The_Doc_Rocks]

@Bosnianbill - I have a general question, relevant to this video but mainly relevant for newish lock pickers everywhere. Without having to search the Internet every time, how does one know what type of lock we're faced with if confronted with an unknown lock? Pin tumbler, dimple, disc detainer, etc etc - with so many makes and model numbers out there, do we have to just learn them, or is there a way to tell? This happened to me when we lost the key to the padlock on an old garden shed, and I said "Oh, no problem, I'll just pick it". It took an hour of stuffing around, using every pick in the bag, and I still had no idea what type of lock it was. Then my wife came out and said "Is this the key?" It was on an old key ring of spare keys and it worked...!! So how do we know? How can we tell? Are there any clues to look for? By the way, the garden shed padlock was an unnamed brand that was some weird pin tumbler/dimple hybrid I think - the key had bitting on the top edge but also dimples on both sides.

[@bosnianbill]

Pete, as you gain a little experience and familiarity with locks you will find it easy to determine what kind of lock you are facing. Pin tumblers and disc detainers are quite different in appearance, as are dimple locks. Soon, with a short glance, you will know what kind of lock it is and that will determine which pick to use.

[@The_Doc_Rocks]

@@bosnianbill Thanks for the reply. I thought as much :) So I'll just keep watching your and LPL's videos :)

[@Engrphotog21]

Have fun with your retirement Bill. I'm your honor, I bought the pick that you and Lockpicking Lawyer made. I'll reference this video when I get that and the lock.

[@JoeHamelin]

So, unlike a pin tumbler you can release the tension without things resetting. Of course, no springs.

[@billhenderson731]

Clear instructions on using the new pick. Waiting on the mailman 👍

[@snowblood82]

Hearing you explain it and visualizing what's happening inside, there's no small amount of skill involved. And then making a tool that gets picked up for commercial use, well done indeed sir!

[@creatorden6977]

Thanks for all of the amazing videos. Watching the creative process on this particular pick was pretty cool. I wish you the best on your retirement.

[@cjtaser7111]

Just FYI - They just released the new batch of picks today. Get them while you can

[@danielsmith9619]

There priced at 450 usd

[@lancebila4543]

Mine cost $45 usd.

[@lancebila4543]

Plus shipping.

[@ambidexter2017]

@@danielsmith9619 Yeah, they add a zero or several zeroes to the price when they run out of stock.

[@zaheerahman7266]

Does anyone know when they will be releasing their second round of Detainer picks? How do you know when they will be released?

[@ewokuk]

Thanks Bill, that was the best lesson on picking DD locks that I've seen. Can't wait to get my pick.

[@keithroberts5946]

I have found that $1Million Canadian is a lot less than $1Million USD - I can save a lot of money buying from Canadian site

[@spdood12345]

Step1: Buy $1M picks from Canada. Step 2: Sell to people in the States for slightly discounted rate. Step 3: Profit???

[@petermccannell7565]

@@spdood12345 except that everyone bumps the price for us, like somethings 20 bucks in the us, its 27 in Canada

[@paolociccone4024]

Hi Bill. I wanted to thank you for all the fantastic wealth of information that you have shared with us. This was a lot of work and it has made a dent in the universe. Enjoy your retirement.

[@OldManBOMBIN]

Happy retirement, Bill. Thank you for all the knowledge you've shared with us, and congratulations on having more time for the family. Much love from all of us here, and Godspeed to you.

[@jeannekelly5084]

Enjoy your retirement, Bill! I intend to purchase your new tool! Bestof luck to you.

[@Mb-bv9hj]

Customer to store keeper: can i have the pick Bosnian Bill and I made?

[@joshuajohnson9237]

I was curious, when originally making this pick, did the inspiration come from the handle of an old school safety razor? I'm assuming you are familiar with those and I hope this question doesn't come off as stupid or anything.

[@aslurmyfrog]

Totally looks reminiscent of the old Gillette safety razor knurling.

[@joshuajohnson9237]

@@aslurmyfrog I'm not sure what brands mine are, I have two and both were given to me by my father. I want to go buy a cheap one and gut it and see what I can come up with...Happy Picking Rogue Pickers!!!

[@pbsing]

Those who bought one are now millionaires.

[@jamesfair9751]

Why do you say that

[@GWiens2001]

Or they were until they bought one! :D Janes Fair: They listed the price as 1,000,000 CAD to keep people from forcing them into their cart. They will put the price back at their "usual" price once they are back in stock.

[@pbsing]

@@jamesfair9751 Sparrows website is charging 1 million dollars for the item now. To discourage people from placing an unavailable item into the shopping cart.

[@zaheerahman7266]

@@GWiens2001 Does anyone know when they will be releasing their second round of Detainer picks?

[@GWiens2001]

@@zaheerahman7266 They released their second round months ago.

[@alexanderneedham7320]

Enjoy your retirement.

[@RosscoInOshawa]

Ordered mine from Sparrows Canada early in the morning Wednesday (not Thursday) and received it the next day! Great service Sparrows! Was waiting for this to be released and was not disappointed, great work BB and LPL! THANKS!

[@z4zuse]

First batch of about 1100 is sold out. Apparently more on it’s way.

[@kyletaylor9980]

In stock now

[@thegrafxguy1]

@@kyletaylor9980 was for like a day and they were gone again. I can't even use mine yet as I don't have any disc detainer locks but I wasn't waiting months again to be able to pick one up. I'm very happy with my purchase!

[@kyletaylor9980]

Hell yeah i just got mine a few days ago and now on the hunt for locks 😂😂 very excited and cant wait to use it

[@thegrafxguy1]

@@kyletaylor9980 that's exactly where I'm at! I ordered a few that will be here tomorrow to practice with. I also have my friends and family on the lookout. Lol

[@kyletaylor9980]

Glad we got ours when we did next release will be in nov and probably wont be so lucky lol same i actually may go hunt tomorrow see what happens

[@andrewfarenci5085]

Sorry to see you go. 🙁 Enjoy your retirement, friends and family. 😁

[@lowellforbes3208]

Thank you both for your generosity making them keep the price down

[@chamberashes3128]

I got my pick this week. I am over the moon! So excited Sadly, there is a colossal failure I've noticed. Quick spoiler, at the end of the day I still absolutely love this tool and would have bought more of it wasn't a limit one per customer. The failure I ran into is the tensioning prongs are too short for some locks with an anti drill collar. They chew up the edges of the first disk because they dont sit propper center on the first disk. It is possible I am doing something wrong and an open to any advice from other users. Any lock without that anti drill collar obviously does not have any issue. The trickiest part of picking is keeping tention torque perfectly aligned so the tip spins true. Lastly the tip may be tight in the key way. that's not really a problem. Just an observation. I plan to modify my tool to address the short prongs. Probably a terrible idea but I plan to buy a second one when they come back in stock and the tool now, with its short prongs, is useless on locks with fat anti drill collars. The good news. This tool is absolutely incredible! Being able to adjust the tool during set up makes picking easier is a huge plus. The lines on the handle takes some of the guess work out with some practice. I have a few personal tricks I want to try with some outside accessories in hopes to make picking easier. Thank you LpL and BB for this great tool, oh ya, and sparrows for manufacturing.

[@davezatina3575]

How about tips on getting one... I'm a bit shy on the 1 million from Sparrows... (Draw entered)

[@Jon0sterman]

Seems funny to hear it called "ThePickThatLPL&IMade", not ThePickThatBosnianBill&IMade, just as informative and professional though, enjoy your retirement Bill :]

[@smerg69]

Can't wait until they are back instock .

[@maxgarascia]

I started calling it the Sasquatch pick cuz I heard a lot about it ,and I seen it in a video but I'm not sure its real

[@user-qd6jt9sd3h]

@@maxgarascia you just have to be the fastest click in the west when you get the in-stock notice

[@kyletaylor9980]

They are in stock now as of yesterday i just ordered mine today! If they are sold out they will have some beginning of nov

[@Smallfi5h]

Happy retirement, thank you for your contribution to the sport, the body of knowledge for the amateur and for helping to create an excellent tool that will become a part of your legacy. Enjoy your family time.

[@jssamp4442]

I just received mine yesterday. Had to come back and watch this video again to refresh my rememory (spell checker says that's not a word but it should be). Tired of breaking the tips on those cheap Chinese things.

[@jaimedelgado7529]

I'm finally going to find my wife's Gspot

[@_wtf]

He doesn't have one :')

[@acepilot1]

I got kinda pissed that I send sparrows an email asking for this two nights ago only to pass out late, wake up to see that this hit sparrows ‘ website and it sold out before I woke up

[@MelissiaBlackheart]

That happened to a lot of people! Only about... six hundred? or so were made in the first batch, to my knowledge. They really underestimated how much these would sell.

[@acepilot1]

Melissia Blackheart I’d say, they should have looked at the comments on vids that BB and LPL made begging for this to get a good idea of just how popular it would be

[@dutch_blades]

Ah that sucks... The website stated they'd be back in production asap, but that could be a while with the COVID-19 situation...

[@roysammons2445]

@@acepilot1 I said exactly the same thing while commenting on a video by Bearsback. Everybody is talking about this pick and wanting one, so with that knowledge why on earth didn't they make a lot. When people start using this pick and posting videos or people just commenting, Sparrows would sell all their surplus supplies.

[@Stewart0494]

Bill, it's been a while since I picked a lock. Well... long story short here I am again and just realized that you have retired. Thank you sir, for the years of experience and education you have provided via KZbin.

[@pepperjack6421]

Finally got mine ordered from sparrows, I watch you an LPL all the time so I’m excited to have a quality tool that was purpose built by pros. Thanks for the video!

[@username54487]

May be a dumb question...but how is this different or better than a standard tension a pick set?

[@AE31011]

How long is the font of the pick that you tension the lock wit? 5 mm or so? That is maybe a bit short for a lot of locks with a spinner in front of it. Or am i wrong?

[@Lakoda26]

Ordering this was the straw that broke my bank account. I totally over ordered.

[@CheZfrmdaWestWisc]

I hope Bill continues to develope tools in his retirement

[@hughfristoe]

Happy retirement, Bosnian Bill! You deserve. Thanks for helping me get involved in Locksport! You're an inspiration!

[@billnormand7470]

Thanks for everything Bill. Not just the new disc pick but everything you’ve done. 👍

[@ick5353]

Sad times :( I was lucky enough to get my hands on one of the first batch (and it arrived fast). But when I went to practice on my Abus 20/70, it turns out that the nibs on the end aren't quite long enough to get past the spinner and reach the first disk. @Bosnianbill / @Lockpickinglawyer / [anyone with the new pick] - if you have the Abus 20/70, could you kindly confirm that this is indeed the situation and not just my user error?

[@sailor5853]

There was a guy that commented something similar in the Lock noob's video. He said he easily fixed the problem but did not give further information.

[@Plan3tBob]

I have the same issue with the batch just released (oct 2020) so it's obviously not changed... I plan to file back the base of the tensioning forks to make them longer.

[@simontex3310]

Just got my first non-destructive open with this pick after weeks of frustration felt great 😂!!

[@Onyx_Games]

"Enjoy your new pick." Man I should have got one before I went to work instead of waiting until I was off work. I'm going to have to wait now.

[@voodoochild24262]

Just got mine in and this video is super helpful, thank you! And best wishes down the road hopefully you get amazing family time in!

[@Alex-ir9nx]

I hate when the shaft is spinning because its too loose

[@AquaTech225]

Anyone been wanting one. Sparrows has them back in stock today. Limit 1 per customer $45

[@djfunkychicken]

Aqua Boss YES! All paid.. now the waiting game !🤪

[@simonhamermesh1394]

How do you pull it back after you've turned it? Doesn't the tip get stuck between layers?

[@zaheerahman7266]

Can I buy your pick? I’d be willing to pay $300-400

[@floorpizza8074]

Hey Bill, has Sparrows reached out to you with an update on when we might see a second batch of this tool from them, by chance? The last update on their website was April 8, which said "soon". Five months later.... crickets. Edit: And great tutorial on using the tool! Now if I can just *get* one.. :)

[@AaronScutt]

This is a must video (in addition the disk detainer cut-away video from Bosnianbill) If you own this tool. I tried to just watch LPL do this and it cost me hours of frustration lol. Thanks Bosnianbill!

[@Peppymoke]

Hey Bill or someone here in the comment section. Can you tension locks with it which require tenion in the last disc? If so, how?

[@OGSontar]

You and LPL should consider starting your own lock pick business.

[@Nemesis-yn5wv]

Be careful not to drop it. I dropped mine the other day, it slipped off my knee and fell down on to a carpet with underlay below it. The tip snapped both the little wings clean off. I literally couldn’t believe it. They definitely are delicate if dropped. Although no issue when picking.

[@robrisla3]

Excellent tool Bill, I got home from work yesterday to my new pick on my door mat. Thanks for your work on this tool.

[@sendtosurge]

Remarkably convenient timing on this one Bill. Thank you!

[@plug4uk696]

I would have thought Sparrows would have made use of those injection pins (more solid) rather than having to weld on tips to a shaft, oh well maybe the next batch might be more robust ;-)

[@grumpygus81]

Great demonstration! Now I just need to get my hands on one...

[@danielmerrison4838]

Just want to say, I love the content, and many thanks for insisting on the affordable price! Checked the site just the other day, and now they're all gone already!

[@ZetaReticulian]

I just returned this tool… the picking tip is ENTIRELY too thin to make for any effective picking. Should have provided a thicker head in the box. Your lucky if you can get ANY feedback with this thing LOL constantly sliding off the discs!

[@Leoburket]

ATTENTION.. I recently bought this pick, it does not fit in my two abloy locks .. any suggestions / remedies ?

[@w.r.salomon1058]

Thank you for constructing and teaching !!! Happy Easter too

[@xpndblhero5170]

That's a beautiful pick, I love the black and red color scheme.... I'd get one just because it's beautiful and could be useful in the zombie apocalypse. LoL

[@drevil2783]

I'm lucky to own one and man it's a beautiful tool. I broke both tips becaus...well...um...i'm an ass. Now i can't seem to find replacements.

[@KeylessEntry]

Great video on showing the pick in action and explaining it's features👌 I would of liked the tip been made from a single piece for more strength and durability. I wonder if Sparrows are going to sell extra tips as there are various keyways. Now get to work on a non front disk tensioning version lol.

[@jamesfair9751]

They designed this one to fit 99% of locks

[@KeylessEntry]

Janes Fair But 99% of DD locks don't tension from the front, only 99% of the cheap low security locks. I have quite a few locks that tension from the rear disk or a random mid disk like the Abus 88/50 plus and countless others. I had to heavily modify a cheap Chinese DD pick, the one with the blue handle, to pick them. The Sparrows DD pick will only pick front disc tensioning DD locks.

[@jamesfair9751]

Keyless Entry I know and you can tension from other disc with this tool it’s not just for front tension

[@KeylessEntry]

Janes Fair This tool's design is based on front tensioning and agree it can be used to tension from other discs but it's quite difficult especially with locks that have multiple false gates. That's why I have 2 very different DD picks. I would like to see BB or LPL open an Abloy Protec2 core with this tool without having a lot of trouble. All I'm saying in my original comment is it would be great to see a quality non front tensioning pick from Sparrows.

[@KeylessEntry]

Janes Fair How exactly would you go about tensioning and picking an Abus 88/50, maybe I've been doing it wrong this whole time.

[@drevil2783]

No jokes though but i wonder if blind poeple will pick better than non blind poeple seeing that most picking is blind picking....all done by feel????

[@datrooster4112]

Have you guys considered talking to sparrows about producing a unfinished model? Since they have the parts but no finish on them. Covid certainly not going anywhere any time soon and i know myself and others are chomping at the bit to aquire this product.

[@crushanimation9226]

I will probably get this later down the road. I just started so I will work my way up to this pick. :)

[@Alex_dlc]

Alway be gentle with the tip!

[@GreyHazRoot]

First minute of video makes me think these are crap like the Black Flag set.

[@Vinlaell]

I'm going to bring this pic back, going to remove the front tensioner and add another pic it will have the same features as the silver bullet

[@neil9242]

Could you have a go at picking this KABA 6062 padlock i have got here ? I have had quite a few goes.

[@neil9242]

Either you or Lock Picking Lawyer lol

[@digger105337]

Thanks for sharing all your knowledge. Happy retirement!

[@jssamp4442]

Now the only problem is waiting for Sparrow's to have it in stock again and buy it before they sell out again.

[@blackbull7446]

Thanks for all the info buddy happy retirement 👍 🗝🔓👍

[@Melds]

Can the prongs pick up more than one disc? I'd jam the whole thing in there but that could keep me from picking the second disc.

[@Navitas2003]

I am learning this style of core. Thank you for the noobs guide!

[@Город312-ч5г]

Hello. Can your point the site, vere i can buy this tool, and the name off this tool

[@rustynuts4426]

I just received mine and I find that the tip is too thin because it keeps slipping off the disc. I've now ordered a chinese one and I'll file the tip down to what I need

[@EricPetersen2922]

I guess DD locks aren’t safe as they used to be. 🤔

[@celem91]

Depends somewhat on the model, this wont pick any rear tensioning model. Still going to be one of the 'safest' lock types given custom tool requirements

[@abefroman8528]

I’ve been waiting for this to be back it stock. Ordered one yesterday and I can’t wait to try it. Weeeeeeeeeew

[@markgriggs2843]

You guys can retire on this tool. Sparrows can't keep them in stock a year later.

[@Pyrolock]

Gee Whiz -- I'll sell you mine for only $500,000.00 -- you save 50%

[@McGyVer964]

If the 1st wafer has gate that not in 90 degree position then the bar never sit, can this tool worked?

[@alexshapsenzon254]

except its still sold out, did they make 10 of em? or less? or what?

[@drevil2783]

It's important to line up with the hole or else your in deep sh@t😆😆😆😆

[@TomAllenBird]

Happy Retirement BosnianBill!

[@MrSangheilislayer]

So glad I will have mine by Saturday, can't wait to learn it!

[@T4gProd]

Will this work against an Abloy Classic straight out of the box? That's the most important lock type for me when it comes to disc locks.

[@klauskaan6320]

im no expert, but i think i heard one of them say no to that.

[@s0men00bb]

It wont. Abloy Classic as well as other their dd locks tension from the back.

[@T4gProd]

@@s0men00bb ah damn. Thanks for the info!

[@timbutler5690]

How do I get one of your picks like that please?

[@reload796]

Can’t wait to get mine!

[@matthewdobbie6740]

Just because you get it doesn't mean you want to need it

[@muncheez9325]

Only a small payment of $1,000,000 apparently

[@johnmorgan1629]

Nicely explained.

[@davidquesada8704]

I cant find this thing sold anywhere.

[@roysammons2445]

Great tutorial Bill.

[@chriskaprys]

Description of the tool on Sparrow's site is fantastic.