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I'm blazing new trails on the property! It's a project that will take a few summers to complete but now that I have the Kubota B2601 Compact Tractor, a chainsaw and time, it's time to get things underway up here at the cottage. This is Part 1 in the series. A very important part! Confirming property lines and boundaries. Hope you'll join me today. Cheers!
A special thanks to Greg Bishop Surveying! www.gregbishopsurveying.com
#trail #landsurvey #trailbuilding

[@mikekowal4944]

You are right again, it's worth every penny to have your land surveying done by professionals. Keeps the peace 👍

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks Mike! I am really happy I had it done. Cheers and all the best!

[@yusufgannon5786]

instablaster.

[@mitchmackenzie3293]

fantastic video! viewing from Australia.

[@angeloantoniorebelo6210]

I'm so happy when I see a Total station like my station Sokkia, very cool.

[@michaelgallagher380]

Having a survey done is so important. I am glad you got it done. We had a survey done 5 years ago before we built and ended up with a little more land than I thought we had. Since the survey I have had 2 neighbors think part of my land was theirs. They quieted right down when I showed them the t-posts I pounded in a week after the survey crew left. Great video GP!!

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning Michael. Thanks for sharing that. I had been thinking about it on and off for years but I am really happy its done and I know for sure now what is mine and what's not. I started putting in the steel t bar this week. Well worth every penny. Have a great week!

[@wardo17]

We have 10 acres and we are going to put trails in also. I know generally where are lines are but I need to fing the metal stakes. Good info. Thanks

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning Ward! That's great and should be a good project. I was only able to find a few the monuments as I noted, but it was tough, even with a compass and laser, to try to line them up through the forest. Good luck with yours and all the best on the trail build!

[@fabiosilva7799]

I am surveyor engineer in Brazil since 1997, II found it interestingused the plumb do check the alignement

[@RegulusIan]

Timely, as always. Thanks for staying ahead of my questions.

[@GPOutdoors]

You are most welcome Ian. All the best!

[@FromSteelToWood]

Great! Very amazing facts there! I would not have said it was criminal to move a monument! But thinking about this, it makes sense! My land has been surveyed about 15 years ago. I wish I would have added some rebars here and there, as one monument can't be found easily now. No worry, as there is a real swamp and cannot reach that part anyways. Thanks GP!

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning Joe! Yes, I learned a few things this past week. I started installing the steel bars this past week as well. Hope you had a good Canada Day with the family. All the best!

[@johnhansen8272]

What a great project putting in the trails, and you are doing it right too! Cheers, John

[@GPOutdoors]

Cheers John!

[@normandroy8549]

I was looking forward for your trail videos, Thanks a lot GP

[@GPOutdoors]

You bet Normand! Thanks - will be starting soon after the black flies are gone. Have a great week!

[@djc7039]

And once they are found drive a T Post 1' from each pin. Replacing ribbon every year is also good

[@rodneylucas2930]

I found your video particularly interesting as I am a land surveyor in the US and just like the fellows who surveyed your property I have dozens of horror stories of people who didn't think it was necessary to have their property surveyed before making improvements and ended up creating a lot of problems. Kudos to you being prudent enough to having the property surveyed prior to making any improvements. I have been a subscriber for quite a while now as I also enjoy your videos on the Kubota B2601 which I also have. Enjoy your videos.

[@GPOutdoors]

Good afternoon and thanks very much Rodney! The guys told me a few stories so I am pretty happy I finally got it done. A lot of peace of mind for sure. Thanks for the comments and for saying hi! Have a great Independence Day!

[@GrampiesWorkshop]

How's she goin'? You know Gord this was probably the most important project you have done on your property so far. You won't be sorry you had this survey completed. It's hard to put a price on peace of mind, but it's nice to have it eh!!! Thanks for posting and for the info!!! Take 'er easy!!!

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning and thanks Grampie! I am really happy I have had it completed now and you are right. it's good peace of mind. Hope you and Nannie had a great Canada Day!

[@terrywoychowski8681]

Good fences make for good neighbors.

[@GPOutdoors]

So true. An oldie but a goodie Terry. Cheers!

[@leol1682]

Thanks GP like the video on the Surveying your land .

[@GPOutdoors]

Cheers Leo!

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

Hey GP, that was an interesting video for sure. I wondered about how they worked in the wood. I had my property surveyed two times because of a dispute. The second was pinned right with the first survey then the Mayor said it was not a problem if I wanted to extend my fence outside the boundaries like the neighbor did ????? I stayed where I am legal and won't have to worry about the Good Old Boy routine they seem to allow here !!! Sure glad you will be safe and within the laws too. Thanks for sharing.

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning ODD. Good call. I agree. Best to keep to what's owned and to know where it is. I feel a lot better having finally got it done. Have a really good Independence Day and talk again soon!

[@michaelbradley8508]

Great educational video. You mentioned you were going to put 'T-Bars' along the property line - great idea but spray paint them bright yellow or orange, that way people should know not to remove them or knock them over. Once you have done that clear a trail right on the property line and maintain it annually. That way the property line will be marked forever. Also, place chain link fence posts at all corners of the property and spray paint them also. Michael from Alberta

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning and thanks Michael! Some really great advice which I appreciate. I started hammering in the steel bars this week and painted them yellow but I think I am also going to re-paint them half red or orange as well, as I have noticed the yellow isn't easy for me to see in the trees. Thanks again and hope you had a wonderful Canada Day!

[@coypatton3160]

In the states the orange red is pretty universal as a survey marker. For the T post get a T post driver or get with Guy and build one. A heavy pipe that fits around the T post. A handle on each side and some type of cap on one end of the pipe. Make the pipe and handles long enough that you can comfortably reach the driver both at the full length of the T post not in the ground and at the fully driven into the ground heights while standing straight up-saves your back!

[@GPOutdoors]

@@coypatton3160 Thanks Coy. You read my mind. Guy let me borrow his. LOL. So much easier than using a sledge hammer. Cheers and thanks again!

[@coypatton3160]

GP Outdoors it was not hard to read, I have set a few T post over the years. The driver is much handier. Still hard work, but at least you work from a comfortable and safe position!

[@bigbigby4657]

Happy Trails.☺

[@markbuilt]

Been there done that , It's a real piece of mind in the end . Now you will enjoy your surroundings even more . Nice video we have just as many of those bugs plus now they added "SHAD FLIES in town

[@GPOutdoors]

I feel much better knowing now for sure Mark. Sounds like you are getting it worse than me. The flies should be gone soon here ( not soon enough!) Cheers!

[@donmotz5528]

Great Gord....more people with large plots of land should get this done instead of always wondering or maybe even getting into sometimes heated discussions with their neighbors......you cant be wrong if it is surveyed for sure.....good job and have a great week my friend...... :)

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks very much Don! I think so too. All the best!

[@neilwines3024]

We’ve bought 2 pieces of property and had both surveyed and marked heavy. I walk the lines at least twice a year just to make sure no one is encroaching. I paint trees and hang new marking tape.

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning Neil. That sounds like a good practice which I should adopt. Thanks for sharing. I think I will. All the best!

[@neilwines3024]

Same to you!

[@houndsmanone4563]

Good work, GP. I had surveys done on my land several times to legitimize what I perceived was my land. Those surveys are recorded and are now public record. Thanks for the video.

[@GPOutdoors]

Good call Houndsman. And a little peace of mind to boot. Cheers and Happy Independence Day!

[@thomasbrighton6159]

Gordon, this was a very instructional video! I’m looking forward to the series!

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks so much Thomas. I appreciate the feedback. It's my first time so I think I have a lot to learn as I go through it. Cheers!

[@RCAFpolarexpress]

Good evening GP, great video ! I have a family land and I did the same as you 2-3 yrs ago and I'm planning to show it to Joe soon !!! and guest what, same as you I have more than expected !!! LOL !!! Can't wait to see your incoming video, Do you need a crew for building these trails ? Joe and I are very well qualified for rocky road work challenges !!! LOL Cheers !!!

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning Dave.LOL. I was pretty happy to find a little more land too. A pleasant surprise! I am going to wait until the black flies are gone before I begin. But I'm looking forward to finally starting. Stay tuned!

[@MRnounoursSQ]

Nice series have a good weekend GP

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks Teddy! You too!

[@peterkober6758]

G P good to see how they do it where we live its square and stakesin corners had one moved by someone it was a corn field before we bought the house Good Luck God Bless PaK

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks and all the best Peter!

[@erickstiner1668]

I was a Rod-man on a survey crew in Michigan, for a few years. It was great work and I enjoyed creating traverse lines. We did a lot of work in the thumb area for gas lines across the state.

[@erickstiner1668]

@@jiblet46 how did you conclude that?

[@sonographers]

Very good information. Thanks.

[@rohoroyarrington3224]

great advice GP, Cheers

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks Roy!

[@MyWissam]

You have exactly the same amount of property, before and after the survey; what changed is your state of knowledge.

[@GPOutdoors]

LOL! Excellent point - Thanks!

[@chrisnevells8830]

They made so you know where your line is make your first trail around the line and then you will always know your property line and you can have all your trails connect to the property trail

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning Chris. That's a really good idea - thanks! If you have any other advice or ideas I'd be grateful to receive it. It's my first time building trails. Have a great week!

[@ba00173]

Hello Gord, I’m looking for the part 2 of your trail project, can you point it to me please ? Love your videos !!! Cheers ! Yves, Boisbriand, Qc.

[@GPOutdoors]

HI Yves. I made a playlist on my channel for the trails (called Blazing New Trails) The videos are captured there. I hope that helps. Cheers!

[@ba00173]

@@GPOutdoors super ! Found your playlist 👍 Thanks again Gord !

[@carolcarola9719]

Use white pvc pipe with orange paint to identify points.

[@joecoyne5660]

I put 4 foot 3/4 inch PVC pipe stakes at all the pins so I can find them when the leaf mulch covers them up every year just walk the line and clear the pins every year or so.

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks Joe! I appreciate the advice - makes good sense to me. I will. Cheers!

[@moultonditcher6187]

Smart move,surveyed property lines don't lie.There's been many properties that have been over cut during logging due too "misinformed" loggers.I've always insisted to split the cost of a new survey when buying a property,Its money well spent.

[@GPOutdoors]

Cheers!

[@tomkeating65]

My land is marked by rebar. Excellent attachment for making trails is a flail mower. 🤔🤔🤔

[@GPOutdoors]

LOL. Good point Tom. I think I know where to get one of those. :)) Cheers!

[@trumpzilla4193]

Awesome video - we are in the same boat but haven't ordered a survey yet!

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks David! Really happy I finally got it done. Peace of mind. Cheers!

[@coypatton3160]

GP, it will be a bit more costly than rebar, but if you will get fence T post, paint them bright orange and a T post driver, they will hold up better than rebar and being bigger be easier to see especially with a bright orange color. Easily touched up every few years with a spray can of paint.

[@GPOutdoors]

That's a good idea Coy. I got some T bar already but I think perhaps I think I will take your advice ( and a few others) and get several of those to mark every so often. Cheers!

[@JohnWhite-si4xc]

We own about 2700 aces total of forest land and we survey all of it so we can find the lines and then when log it when we have no other logging

[@GPOutdoors]

Wow John. That's a lot of land. I think that's almost the entire length of our concession road here. I'll bet that keeps you busy. LOL. Cheers and thanks for the comment!

[@c31979839]

Really looking forward to this series! This is something I'm going to want to do with my property one of these years coming up, and it'll be great to see how you do it, and what issues / resolutions you run into.

[@GPOutdoors]

That's great! I hope it will be helpful. I am looking forward to it. Cheers!

[@kenbowman1139]

Neat stuff!! I'd be interested to hear a bit about your property (maybe update your about section for reference?) like property size, frontage lines, etc? No need to divulge any personally identifiable info of course, but I'd love to hear about the scope of your work! Also, finally got the grapple this weekend.. stealing your storage design very soon!

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks Ken. I probably should update it - its been a while. I think you will like the grapple cradle. It's so easy now to get it on and off without any fussing. Good luck with the grapple and the cradle!

[@henryrodgers3409]

Great video Gord . That's the first thing that I would do is getting my property surveyed after buying it . Just because the real estate agent says that a certain parcel belongs to you doesn't make it so . This way you can take action against the agent if property claims were wrong as long as you have everything written down on the real estate contract . My brother wanted to widen his driveway and his neighbor had a hissy fit saying that he wanted a survey . No problem neighbor , here's my survey and get lost . Driving in t-posts is a great idea . Painting the tops with a fluorescent paint is a good idea . I would even take measurements of the distance between posts incase some wise a$$ neighbor moved the t- posts. Yes a survey is expensive but it gives the land owner piece of mind and can save you thousands in court costs down the road if someone says your land is theirs . Do you plan on renting an excavator or just going to use your tractor . Thanks.

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning and thanks Henry. You are right. I wish I had done it long ago but was one of those things that kept bothering me but I kept putting off. Glad I finally did it and happy with the outcome. Worth every penny. I am going to start by using my tractor and chainsaw etc but I may also rent an excavator to do part of it as well, as many folks have said it will be worth the money and will get it done a lot faster. But to start, I will begin with the tractor and see how it goes. Have a great week and thanks again!

[@tractorman4461]

Surveying is certainly a mystery to we the uninformed. There’s plenty of reasons they must be licensed. I’ve a lady friend in the middle of a heated dispute on one of her boundary lines at present. A prime example of not knowing where your markers are and the problem it can create. Thanks GP for a cool video. Two thumbs up !! Btw... with all the upcoming stump removals that are inevitable are you by chance looking at a backhoe attachment ...?? It would sure save your wife’s back from overexertion on the pick and shovel ... just sayin ‘. 🤔

[@GPOutdoors]

LOL. I just about fell off the chair T! Too funny. And I am going to show it to the wifey ( you could be in hot water). Actually, I thought you were coming up from MD with yours to help me out? Your wife said she would let you out for a road trip. :)) I am going to start with the tractor and my own tools and then I may rent a BH for part of it. I haven't done it before so will start on a small track first to see what I learn and how it goes. Thanks T! Hope you and the whole family have a really nice Independence Day!

[@DIYMyWay]

Hi GP! Glad to hear you have more property than you thought. I’m sure that was a pleasant surprise! Looking forward to seeing you working on the walking trails. Cheers!

[@GPOutdoors]

Good day DIY! Yes, best surprise I could have asked for. Good luck with the new workshop. I'll bet you can't wait to get in there. Cheers!

[@edwardkenny2356]

This will assure you sleep well at night 😴😴😴

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning Edward. Yes indeed. Good peace of mind. Cheers!

[@salmonhunter7414]

All our trails we use wood chips to cover our trails works great and the trails need to be cleared every year anyway.

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks SH! I think I have a lot of chipping to do! Have a good week!

[@jamesbigham9036]

I am looking forward to this series it will be interesting to see how you do your trails. I did have a question have thought about having the kids help you with making the trails? I figured if they were old enough it would mean a lot to them to know they helped make the trails and that could be a sense of completion plus they would get the chance to work with you

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning James. Thanks - that would be a wonderful thing but the kids are in in different parts of their lives and in different parts of the world now so getting together like we used to when they were younger is much more difficult and infrequent now. I guess sooner or later they have to grow up. LOL. Thanks though and have a great week!

[@jamiegratton9748]

Your survey laws are the same as ours here in the states... New York anyways. It’s an expensive venture but worth every penny.

[@GPOutdoors]

It sure was Jamie. I feel a lot better now actually knowing exactly where it is and a little peace of mind not guessing anymore. Cheers!

[@bryantremmel2996]

in the states its the same thing.survers are the only ones allowed to move property stakes

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks Bryan. I did not know that. Cheers!

[@TSemasFl]

This is what I'm dealing with now on a property I bought. I had it surveyed and come to find out the road in front has meandered off it's center line and encroached onto my property. The grader that grades the road has also meandered with it and at sometime, it took my monument stake with it. lol not a big deal, I still have the corner stakes to place the location of this absent monument. So' now it's time to cut my driveway where I can start getting my truck in there and let the chainsaw fun begin.

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning MNP! That should be interesting. Good that you are able to calculate it's location. Good luck with the township! Cheers and Happy Independence Day!

[@crbourret]

Happy belated Canada Day!

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks so much Charles. And to you and yours!

[@merrymanrc]

Hey GP maybe you should put in some five feets orange post so you can see them and know your property line is

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning Richard. I think that's a great idea. I started putting them in but I coloured them yellow however I can't see them very well. I think orange is the way to go, so I will pick up some orange paint this week. Thanks!

[@kongchiu2077]

I cannot find part 2, and other parts. could you please let me know? thanks

[@prataptomer4154]

Thank god that you've got your property surveyed otherwise who knows that you might be mowing neighbors grass for free 😃😂😉

[@GPOutdoors]

LOL PT! Good one this morning. Thanks for the humour to start the day. Have a great week!

[@prataptomer4154]

@@GPOutdoors True...Start work with a smile, I am also a farmer on south east coast city of India at my 9 acres coconut and organic vegetables riverside farm. I regularly watch your videos especially your experiments with all kind of implements on Kubota mini tractors to get very detailed information. Now you have a friend in India 😊

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning Pratap! Happy to have a friend in India! Thanks for watching and hope to talk again soon. A smile in the morning can change your whole day. Be well and safe! Cheers!

[@angeloantoniorebelo6210]

Really really truth. The sound of insect around your head kkkk

[@cecilbatts8835]

Watched video wondering how to measure a curved border. I understand post to post as a straight line; but what if there was a bulge, to obtain square footage?

[@ThePlowGuys]

There is nothing better than knowing exactly where your property starts and the neighbors end. You may laugh but this can be a BIG problem even in a city layout. You would think that when they put those fences up 20 yrs ago that they knew where the property line was. Not always. Because of hydroelectric poles and a small slope in my back yard the fence is one foot inside my property line. I won't be going to court over this. the one foot is on graded land that would be useless to me as is. Great video GP look forward to seeing more.

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning TPG. Thanks for sharing that. I was surprised at a few of the stories the guys told me about so I am glad I got it done. Cheers!

[@coypatton3160]

Some places have required that a fence be 100% on your property. I ran into this many years ago when I decided to put a fence up in my backyard for my children to be protected from roaming packs of dogs. The county I was in required a fence to be on your property. Other places we had always put them on the property line.

[@aped3]

Do You have a Link to Your Friend Page that is have Problems ???

[@salmonhunter7414]

You have probably said but how many acres do you have there. I was going to have my 50 acres bush done but the cost was going to be 3000 dollars. So I am still just guessing.

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning SH! Only about 4 acres here. Cheers!

[@meanjoegreen4925]

hello nice video G.P. but I have a question you mean you bought this land without knowing where the markers/property lines were? here in America where I live we most get it surveyed before we buy land only makes sense to me. I'LL BE WAITING FOR MORE GREAT VIDEOS SOON TILL THEN T.C. BE SAFE & HAPPY CANADA DAY & HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO America

[@GPOutdoors]

Hey good day Mean Joe. LOL. No, not exactly. I have a proper Plan Survey which is filed with the government and I knew generally where the land lines ran but never knew exactly where the lines were. I could find several of the monuments so knew very roughly what was mine. I could find some of the corners but not all. Have a great Independence Day as well - all the best Joe!

[@mts7274]

Is it true that most surveyors use inexact measurements for distance because of a method called 'pacing' [relying on footsteps]?

[@cambiumguy]

Great idea about the stakes and rebar. How much does it cost to get a survey in Ontario?

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning CG. I started already and will get the rest done soon. For the survey I had done, it was about $1.5-2k. Worth every penny. Wish I had done it a while ago. Cheers!

[@heidefries1825]

Hi GP! Great video ... so, how much property do you have?

[@GPOutdoors]

Goody Heide. I have about 4 acres here. Thanks for the kind comment - have a great weekend!

[@i.r.wayright1457]

You discovered you have more land than you thought you did? You'll be getting a call from the assessor's office in the morning. (That would be my luck.)

[@GPOutdoors]

LOL Ron! Hopefully they are not watching the video. Be well and happy Independence Day!

[@richardparker1367]

Hi gp how many acres of land do you own

[@GPOutdoors]

Morning Richard - about 4 acres. Cheers!

[@vinnyavalanche]

Tick and mosquitoe city

[@billonthehill9984]

Smart move Gord... Boundary disputes with neighbors should be avoided at all costs! Further down the road in the event you do a selective cut on your property will help keep the loggers away from the boundary. Experienced loggers with a sense of morality stay clear of the established boundary. This particular kind of boundary dispute can get real ugly & should be avoided... Bill on the Hill, Vermont, USA... :~)

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks BOTH. I agree with you. A few their stories were a bit of an eye opener for sure. Happy Independence Day!

[@walterbrooks3539]

Bugs are bad this year, eh?

[@GPOutdoors]

They sure are Walter. And they came later than normal so are still hanging around later than normal. Hopefully they will dissipate soon. Cheers!

[@gboz3356]

How many acres is your property ?

[@GPOutdoors]

God morning GB. I have about 4 acres. But most of it is in the dense forest. Have a good week!

[@scratchypants1]

Are you obliged to inform adjacent owners that you are having a survey done? My understanding is that here in QC, if you have your land surveyed and there is a dispute, you are on the hook for the neighbor's survey, too.

[@henryrodgers3409]

Don't think that you are obliged to tell your neighbours anything . You are getting a survey on your property . Not theirs . You as a land owner are finding out where your property line is . You are doing your neighbor a favour because now he knows where his property line is adjacent to your land . If there is a dispute , now you have a survey done to take care of that dispute . If your neighbor doesn't recognize the legality of your survey than he can pay for his own or you can tell him to stuff it . Why would anyone be that stupid to pay for a neighbours survey of their property .

[@GPOutdoors]

Good morning SP! A great question. It is not an obligation but the survey company suggested it is a good practice to tell them (which I did) but to your point about disputes, there is a dispute process which I believe is captured under the federal legislation. I think basically it says that if there is a dispute, the neighbour gets his own survey done and if there is a discrepancy, then the offending party (person that is wrong) pays the costs of the other's survey etc. Thanks and have a great week!

[@henryrodgers3409]

Wow things could get really complicated . 2 surveys with different results . How does one determine which survey is wrong ? One would think that both licensed survey companies would have the same results .Glad I don't have that problem . LOL

[@GPOutdoors]

LOL! Good morning Henry. I am thinking if two licensed engineers came up with separate results, there would be a bigger problem than just the accuracy of the survey. LOL. Cheers and all the best!

[@scratchypants1]

My personal experience on my property where the "back forty" has no pins was that the surveyor had to use a more "forensic" approach to defining the borders. He said he would be looking for evidence of old fence posts, having to define the "center of a ditch," etc. It's these interpretations that could lead to a dispute. All I wanted to do was establish a concise property line - I was not obliged to do so (not selling, nor erecting a fence) so I opted to avoid the whole mess until such time that I actually needed to do it.

[@surveyorofua3914]

Friends, maybe you have an unnecessary, outdated, broken geodetic equipment, which I have given a new life to.

[@Dontnegotiatewithterrorist]

How many acres do you have there and approx. what was the cost to survey the property?.... Thank you. Bill H.

[@GPOutdoors]

Morning Bill. I have about 4 acres and the survey cost about $2,500. CDN.