CZ P 07 & PX4 Compact Carry: Does PRICE really matter?

you could spend a ton of money, but can you get the same results at half the cost?

[@MDpolo]

I own both and choosing between them would be a difficult task. My P07 has the full Cajun magic done and the Beretta PX4 CC has Langdon's magic... If you pressed me to pick one - it would be the Beretta by a slim margin. In my hands it shoots flatter and less felt recoil. Having said that - I'd be happy with either. Thanks for the video!

[@Nitek09Z]

I have both as well and the main difference for me is how much easier the slide is to manipulate on the ltt px4 cc. Both fantastic firearms but the ltt trigger is considerably better than my full cajun pro kit p07. I do prefer the grip and ergos on the p07 even with the talons on the px4.

[@francostacy7675]

The Honest Outlaw sure makes a good case for the CZ and fires a lot of guns

[@danielrodriguez5463]

I own both The Beretta is superb, soft shooting, easy controls and if you drop a 11lbs hammer spring and an LTT trigger bar isn’t even a contest, the Px4 CC is the best polymer pistols/ trigger combo. Thanks for reviewing

[@emrebaykurt640]

CZ P07 is my EDC gun. You don’t have to make any modifications for the trigger or anything else.So it’s a better option in my opinion.It’s reliable,durable and very accurate.Thanks for the review.

[@toddallen7436]

carried a p07 for about two years now and i love mine

[@montv291]

I know it's not supposed to matter, but the Beretta looks like an April Fools joke. It looks like a 3rd grader drew a pistol from memory. That CZ is a handsome damn firearm.

[@tobylmiller]

Excellent video! The choice gets even more difficult because you don't need to spend $900 on the PX4 to get a very good shooter. I picked up the PX4 Inox Compact before the LTT Compact Carry was released for around $500, and while I am curious to see just how good the LTT trigger job in a bag is, I am extremely happy with the few, cheap mods I made: 1) lighter hammer spring, the LTT #11 chrome-silicone spring, 2) conversion to the Stealth lever decocker kit, and 3) Talon grips ...all very easy to accomplish on my own, with little/no experience. Good stuff.... and ABSOLUTELY LOVE my PX4 :)

[@Jeff-xn1ew]

P 07 for the win! I have the m carbo kit in mine and what a difference it made. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@seandurns110]

I’ve got both except my P07 is cajunized. Both are superb, although if I had to pick one it would be the compact carry. It’s a superb gun and is slightly better for CCW (it’s my summer EDC) and has a smoother trigger pull. Even cajunized the P07s DA can have a few kinks in it.

[@stephanie_beth]

Really enjoyed your video, have been curious about them, liked the comparison. Great information about both. Love your channel/content.

[@ossantheshooter]

One more thing to consider is reliability. I have no doubt the PX4 is very well made and reliable, but if I remember correctly the rotating barrel ate a lot of sand and mud during the MAC gauntlet test. The p07 did way better. But I have to admit I am a CZ fan and my edc is gripchopped p09 ;-) Anyway, many thanks for the video. Cheers from Prague, Czech Rep.

[@etebol]

The Yankee Marshall might have something to say bout that! LOL

[@truthwarrior2149]

I don't drop my gun in the mud and sand. In fact where I live, I don't even know where to find it. Hard to imagine a situation where I'm going to be out slogging in the mud and the sand and drop my gun like an idiot and then need to pick up my gun to shoot someone. I'm not fighting Indians on the Great Plains during a rainstorm. So I think the test they do is pretty ridiculous. It might have some utility to a Ukrainian Soldier. But for those 90% of us who are going to Compact Carry in an urban environment, the test is completely irrelevant. That being said, I love cz's but not for that reason.

[@jg-ub4ek]

Langdon put 50,000 documented rounds with 24 malfunctions. He has a video about it. It's a fuckin tank.

[@RocketPropelledGuy]

to put @@jg-ub4ek's comment into perspective that is a failure rate of .00048% a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of 1%

[@jg-ub4ek]

@@RocketPropelledGuy kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpm8Ynlsm55ljsk Here's the video. I just rewatched the it and there was actually only 12 malfunctions. Also, a non trivial number of those were user induced.

[@selfreliance1014]

I would pay the extra for the Beretta! Something about that gun is just mythical!!! However the CZ is a better value and more practical. But I would still go Beretta if I had to choose.

[@3wheelmannc860]

Beretta PLEASE bring us a v. 2.0 of the PX4 Storm Full and Compact. I have the full size w/ LTT trigger kit. Fantastic gun. LTT custom pricing is a little high imo, but a fantastic option if you want to spend the $$.

[@1776orbust]

A 2.0 would be sweet

[@sigman3579]

I would love to see a 2.0 that’s optic ready out of the box.

[@MrRensan404]

Px4 for me! Less recoil, easy to dismantle, Italian flare in design (like their Ferraris and Lambos).

[@markhimmer2856]

Gteat video comparing the 2! I carried a Beretta M-9 and trained others on it for 15 years in the USAF. I own a CZ-75B Omega and love it...Best pistol I've owned! I recently got rid of a Sig P320 AXG Carry (all metal - LEO edition) as it was too heavy for CCW. I love CZ's and hammer fire, so I purchased a CZ P-07 and upgraded with Talon Grips, a CGW SS guiderod/spring so far and have it at the local gunsmith to have a set of Dawson sights and an M-Carbo springbkit installed, along with smoothing the internal parts! It should be another tack-driver CZ!!! Thanks for your videos! 👍

[@1776orbust]

Thanks for watching

[@KeanonGilliamSlang369]

Both firearms are very nice. Only time I get to shoot a PX4 is when my friend brings it to the range and I enjoy the moment. CZ speaks for itself.

[@johnjohnston6066]

I paid $749 for a new PX4 Compact Carry, plus $35.00 shipping and $30.00 for transfer fee. Total $815.00. I paid $619 retail plus $55.00 sales tax for the PX4 Compact for my son. Total $674 for the PX4 Compact VS $815 for the Compact Carry. So for $141.00 difference. I'm happy with the price difference.

[@rangersmith4652]

I love my CZ-75s, and in this case I'd take the P07 for the heavier DA trigger and its better looks. The PX4 has to be the most homely gun I've ever seen. Aesthetics don't matter for a carry semi-auto, I suppose, and that's why I carry Glocks.

[@puzer1]

...if only the PX4 didn't look like a Yeet Cannon, it's poor aesthetics wouldn't matter as much...

[@miguelbooth5826]

i did the MCarbo kit thing to my P07 with a little bit of polishing. After 400 rounds and using the Lyman gauge I get consistent trigger pulls on decock of under 7 pounds. The single action is just over 2 pounds. Great performance for the money.

[@brucesmith5501]

2+ pounds seams a little light for a carry gun , range gun it’s nice

[@toughcookie218]

@@brucesmith5501 the first shot is DA so it's fine with light SA trigger pull.

[@hailtothe_rooster1572]

I’ve got more p07’s than px4’s but I’ve got a lot more berettas than I do CZ’s. The omega triggers leave more to be desired compared to other CZ’s BUT if you actually get to shoot it instead of finger banging it at home it gets significantly better. Personally I don’t like to change factory internals on carry guns. If it’s duty proven that’s good enough to leave it alone. At over 3k on one of my p07s it feels as smooth although slightly heavier DA than the SIG srt triggers.

[@1776orbust]

I've run a few hundred rounds through the p07 before the spring kit and the sa was pretty good then. I'm looking forward to running both side by side....more to come for sure

[@SectionChief]

I’ve owned both. The P07 is more versatile than the PX4 compact. P07 has more options to get optic cut, can be a suppressor host, has more magazine availability (same as p10c), can utilize full size weapon mounted lights, has more holster options, easier to change iron sights, and so on. PX4 is a capable competitor and if range of accessories, upgrades, etc is not a need for you, then it’s just as good as P07.

[@MadMarlo13]

I've had a px4 full size and sub compact. They were reliable and fun. However, I got a p07 and it is way more accurate at least in my hands. Love the way it feels in my hand. P07 all the way!!

[@-RM-]

Follow up since last comment: I have since purchased 2 Beretta PX4 Storm Compacts (1 inox, 1 bruniton, both "G" models, not LTT "Compact Carry" versions). I don't have a lot of range time with these yet, but I am incredibly impressed with the PX4! And that's without the LTT goodies you get with the Compact Carry model. I've handled and shot the P-07 in the past but I have not inspected or shot both pistol models side by side. I may pick up a P-07 at some point but I doubt the ergos will be as good for me as they are on the PX4.

[@rotadymaify]

I bought my PX4 for $775. There is no comparison for me. I have both guns but much prefer the Beretta.

[@Mike-gi1dk]

You got fucked

[@unclefreedom213]

p07 all day and it is my current carry gun. i owned the storm but just didnt care for the ergos

[@chevyrunner8846]

I absolutely loved my px4 full size in 9. So much so that I bought a compact in fde and second full size in 40. I ended up selling the full size in 9, but kept the mags and bought a cx4. I have since worked on getting them as close as I can to the ltt models slowly and as funds allow. I will eventually get my hands on a cz. Until then, I'll just keep enjoying my berettas. Appreciate the great video brother. Please bring us more content on that beautiful px4. Oh yeah also what happened to KS? I really enjoyed his content!

[@douglassalley9117]

It's been a long time since KS has done a video. I subed to him years ago.

[@tamront1656]

I paid $400 for a FDE PX4 compact on sale. Pre-pandemic

[@chevyrunner8846]

Same here, and i just about got it set up like the ltt variant.

[@steveh7108]

Plus the fact that you could send that gun into Cajun custom and have them tune it up to be even better and still be cheaper.

[@ThecrazyScotsman]

Here's the thing and I've said this for years you can not put a price on your life carry what you shoot well regardless of cost. I'd rather lose an expense gun saving my life than die because something failed going cheap

[@danoneill2846]

Many Thanks Don't forget the Silver Bullets it's spooky out there .

[@kenbrown1847]

I'm a Berreta guy but I'll take the CZ

[@ericmarx1288]

The PO7 has a cool factor to the point where I am able to overlook the slightly crunchy DA trigger 😂

[@thefrogking481]

Keep this in mind. During the NATO torture tests only two firing systems passed the trials. One was Glock and the other was CZ. Also, no NATO force or Military on earth carries the PX. Simple is always better when it works. Nobody will ever argue that CZ's won't simply work, each time. Outside of the 92 series Beretta doesn't make a pistol I've ever fired that was as shooter friendly as most other makers. Over $900?!?! Where did you buy that, on Gunbroker? That price will almost get you in the CZC ballpark, which is vastly superior to most anything else in the DA/SA market. I haven't fired anything *except my Staccato* that would take my CZC SDP out of my waistband. Not to mention the Beretta is just plain ol' ugly.

[@hailtothe_rooster1572]

I get in a lot of debates about duty proven vs it’s nice out the box/ cheaper/ etc. When you’re serious about using something for any significant amount of time anything that’s passed a trial is your starting point. If you’re gonna shoot 2 mags out of the box, call it good, and feel comfortable carrying it…. Good for you. It will probably work when you need it BUT I like to shoot and often wear out or break things like that

[@Rnemhrd]

Both stock the Beretta. I don't like the slide on CZs. It honestly doesn't have a lower bore axis. Visual illusion. Not enough exposed slide to grab for me. I got a stock px4 compact and did the upgrades I wanted.

[@scooter5940]

I picked up a Compact Carry about two years ago for roughy $750 (actually, I looked at my records and it was $650!) - one of the large retailers was running a significant sale on them. I loved the gun and shot it well, but I ultimately sold it. It was a bit bigger and chunkier than I wanted to carry, and I didn’t need another home defense pistol. Not saying you can’t conceal the PX-4, but for me in SW Florida, it was more than I wanted. At what I paid for it, considering what it comes with out of the box, it was a good value. Only thing, besides size, I did not like was the stealth-decocker. Too hard to activate, but you could easily replace it with a thicker lever. Only CZ I have is a Scorpion PCC, but I’ll have to pick up one of their handguns eventually - hear such great things about them.

[@alfonsorj70]

I have both the beretta PX4 Storm compact and the CZ P-07 I have carried both and they are both stock without any upgrades ,and if I had to choose I would go with the Beretta because of the rotating barrel, it’s a point to aim soft shooter..with a lighter consistent trigger pull in single action…and the double action isn’t as long as the CZ P-07..but I really like both firearms…

[@1776orbust]

Both are great choices the px4 has a superior trigger

[@jerryjohnsonii4181]

CZ P07 all day long !!!!!!!!!!!

[@ReyesFL]

P07 is my EDC.. CZ quality is second to none and I’ll die on that hill

[@DTWCT]

I have a p07 and love it. I think I'd have to shoot the Beretta to see what all the hypes about. It's ugly as hell

[@steveh7108]

I was not familiar with the PX4 but just from looking at it I could see it being very comfortable and a very good choice for everyday carry. However I would not pay that price. I highly doubt that I would like it better than my CZ PCR.

[@vent51177]

You made the right choice to start. I think the PCR is the best DA/SA carry option out there. The P07 has a better stock out of the. Box trigger. But once you break in or cajunize a non omega CZ trigger it doesn't get any better.

[@steveh7108]

@@vent51177 I agree. My PCR went to Cajon custom and they gave it the works. Pro package trigger job. Competition Hammer Barrel bushing. If the single-action trigger was any lighter it would be dangerous. In double action it is much lighter and very smooth and consistent.

[@danielhardwick2926]

I have both, my personal preference is my Beretta PX Compact Carry! Absolutely a phenomenal gun, 2nd choice would be any of my CZ’s, ‘nuff said!

[@BT2SS]

I might pick up the P07 eventually, but the Beretta is the superior gun in my opinion. I have the PX4 CC2

[@rotadymaify]

The action is completely different. I believe the PX4 has a rotating barrel.

[@ckim6400]

You said the PX4 is a little front heavy? Was that with a loaded magazine or unloaded magazine? No one carries it with an unloaded magazine and that will change the balance.

[@1776orbust]

Unloaded but that's a valid point.

[@curtisbarrow7650]

I own neither, and would not hesitate to carry either! I do lean towards the Compact Cary, but then again my dream is to someday own and shoot a 92X Compact fully Langdonized...with a spare slide with optic so I can train on my 92D Centurion that already has the LTT hammer spring!

[@carolannesparkman6938]

Find out which one you Shoot Better, then you can answer your own question! 😊👍

[@1776orbust]

I shoot both equally well which is why I ask for community input

[@carolannesparkman6938]

@@1776orbust 😊

[@stinsonrd]

I've had 3 p07s, and have a px4 cc on my hip now. So... but still love the p07.

[@-RM-]

I would pick the Beretta for 3 reasons: 1) Its overall size is slightly smaller than the P07 (at least in length)...2) The Beretta slide is much easier to manipulate (this has always been my beef with the "inside rail" CZ 75 platform)...and 3) I prefer the fully decocked system of the Beretta to the "half cock" decocking system of the CZ. Being of Czech heritage, I really WANT to love the CZ's, but they just don't work for me, ergonomically or operationally.

[@1776orbust]

Why do you dislike the half cocked system ..just curious

[@-RM-]

​@@1776orbust If I'm not mistaken (and I often am), I believe the "half decocking" process on CZs actually reduces the trigger pull length by a small amount. If that's the case, I don't like that. I want my decocking action to put the pistol all the way back to its original position, with its long, heavy DA trigger pull. It's just a safety thing for me.

[@1776orbust]

@R M gotcha although while the trigger pull length might be longer the poundage is still lighter on the compact carry trigger

[@brucesmith5501]

I just happened to look up the price for a stock px4 compact ($567) and a px4 compact carry ($800) a couple days ago for my grandson

[@DarkPhoenixTSi]

I've owned both, and out of the box, the P07 feels better. After getting an LTT TJIAB, and changing to the stealth Type G decocker, the PX4 was miles ahead. I Cajunized the P07, and then they were back to being pretty even. The PX4 was a little flatter on the recoil.

[@metalfate0]

Stock p07, but I everyday carry the cz p09, so I'm biased a bit cz spoiled me.

[@peterfusco8461]

I see this video is 2 years old. But even two years ago I don't think the PX4 Compact was $900+. I could be wrong, but you can buy one now for around $600.

[@1776orbust]

I assure the compact carry was at one time

[@tahertz8544]

I Dig both company's. I think if that P07 goes to Cajun gun works and get carry packages it Smokes the Storm at equal value.

[@andrewmoran563]

🤔Great video I’ve got PX4 Langdon compact for me A1 my best Pistola 👌

[@biguy525]

Just like comparing a Mercedes to a Subaru.Both get you from point A to point B, but that trigger really separates them. 400 bucks over the life of the gun isn't that much. And you know a good smooth trigger on that first double action shot could make a world of difference hitting your target.

[@chrisragone8785]

Why are you testing the Double Action trigger pull weight with the P07 hammer completely down? When the hammer is dropped with the decocker after loading a round in the chamber, the hammer is at the 1/4 cock notch and is LIGHTER than what you measured!

[@1776orbust]

It is if you have a decocker, but if you have the safety then that's what it reads 👍🏽

[@wessullivan2758]

It’s presumptuous to say one of these guns will not out shoot the other…without at least shooting a few hundred rounds. How do you come to that conclusion?

[@1776orbust]

While I have not shot the compact carry I have shot many hundreds of rounds through the p07 and my other px4 storm compact

[@Mossy590a1]

I carry a p07 duty gen 1.

[@7prs965]

It's all about the looks. Unfortunately, I think they both look badass lol.

[@app1mxh]

Regular Px4 compact is going for $550 on Gunbroker

[@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG]

I know this is an old video, but I am facing this very neck/neck battle over which of these I am going to buy, and unfortunately it can't be both right now because the 2nd gun I have bookmarked is a Steyr M9-A2 MF. So I have to ask that if now that you've actually shot the PX4 which gun do you recommend? I was a little shocked that you didn't mention the rotating barrel feature as far as recoil would be affected.

[@elijahbrooks8589]

The upgrades on the PX4 is the difference in price. You won’t really upgrade to a G model with night sights and Langdon trigger for less money

[@geoffwhite769]

My Mcarbo 07 pulls at 7.5 and 2.5

[@andersonlee6190]

In my opinion the PO7 has better sights, trigger and ergonomics than the Beretta and based on the PX4 torture test failure the PO7 is definitely more reliable and it's cheaper. I've seen PX4 brand new for about 600 dollars and you can get a PO7 for under 500

[@xsicxskillzx2134]

Considering your first shot will mostly likely be double action give me the lighter double action regardless of the firearm. Slightly bias because I own the PX4 CC MOD 5 straight from LT and carry it daily.

[@danoneill2846]

One issue that must be covered , as proof , all you need to do is look at some of the last videos Gun Sam has done . Sam is not a newb , at the end of his vids he will do some shooting at steel as part of his ammo test . In just the last few , he failed to take the pistol off safe & had a brain fart way too many times . In a fight that could be 2nt place , a very bad place to be when they may already have a head start .

[@SectionChief]

Neither of these pistols has a safety (both decocker), so what are you referring to?

[@danoneill2846]

@@SectionChief I missed that , I thought it was a safe / decocker

[@THATMOFODIRT]

Good stuff.

[@1776orbust]

Thanks

[@lakeozarkguy5232]

yes the PX4 is better!

[@KnowYourRights-USA]

Do not understanding how you can give a review with firing it. Weird.

[@keyantwilliams]

CZ P07

[@leoguy1609]

Tell me where in a defensive situation, the trigger pull made the difference? In 45 years of owning firearms, can't remember s single case. Trigger pull and reset are one of a few overrated feature of a firearm and are applicable to target practice . Learn to shoot and adapt to different firearms.

[@1776orbust]

Trigger may not make a difference up close. However, in my non expert opinion , a lighter trigger would make a difference at a longer distance.

[@Shadx27]

PX4 $900? What work did you have done it?

[@babbm1983]

CZ all the way.

[@danoneill2846]

@10:30 I would get the PX4 & get a rifle to go with it . I had a 40 cal Rifle & traded out of all my 40s , the rifle was 100% , too many good things to list . As a Glock owner , I just ordered an FM-9 to go with them . Paul Harrel likes his PX4 Storm .. same mags & more power >> kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6enk6KPqcahl8U

[@danoneill2846]

If you have light weight / new / part time shooters ... this may be the best rifle , short of a 10/22 . Very user friendly & a Cream puff to shoot .

[@anthonyditore3390]

I do t know where you live I got my px4 compact for 583 out the door

[@nebraskagunfreak8023]

Cz all the way. I could get that trigger even better

[@khalfareed]

CZ more reliable, PX4 LTT very ammo sensitive, many malfunctions: failure to feed

[@IdahoSnek]

Hope you get well soon! Please share your reasons for getting the vaccine. I feel all the let's fight for our rights and shall not be infringed crowd sure fold like a wet blanket.

[@1776orbust]

Personal choice. It's a 2 way street, if you want it, get it, if you don't, then don't.

[@jameshall3339]

CZ

[@ginormousbones]

Cz all the way

[@johndeere1951a]

For 900.oo the Sig Sauer P229 is a smarter choice. The Short Reset Trigger crushes that Baretta .

[@00-Dima]

Iv always hated the tiny cz slide

[@danielrodriguez5463]

Unless you have large hands, that Po7 is not going to work.

[@jn3750]

MP 2.0 beats them both

[@aslanbosnakoglu8240]

cz is low quality gun. the only one i would ever buy is 75 or 85. the rest is garbage.

[@jim-ce5kt]

Why do you like to display your ignorance to the public??

[@djlu3011]

Hell no its not worth it. For 900 + dollar, you can get a p07 and possibly a Glock. And Glocks aren't cheap. On top of that the px4 storm has some Springfield "gripzone" type branding on it's grip. And it's just overall ugly. For 900 dollars that shit should look like a 1911. Idk why it's a difficult question to answer for you. That was the easiest question ever.

[@1776orbust]

So I guess you don't like the px4