17wpc Topping A70 Pro + Both Matching Dacs 【Z Reviews】

[@ZReviews]

🟥Topping A70pro ------------------ apos.audio/products/topping-a70pro-headphone-amplifier/?sca_ref=36221.ouwJgZltO5 🟥Topping D70 SABRE ----------- apos.audio/products/topping-d70-pro-dac/?sca_ref=36221.ouwJgZltO5 🟥Topping D70 OCTO ------------- apos.audio/products/topping-d70pro-octo-dac/?sca_ref=36221.ouwJgZltO5 ⚔www.SubscribeStar.com/Zeos -- Support the Channel on SubscribeStar 🥇www.Patreon.com/Zeos -- Support the Channel on Patreon

[@kingdip91]

I spontaneously bought the a70 pro and d70 pro octo over Amazon sales and they arrive next week, I've been very impatiently awaiting this review. thankyou very much for relieving my anxiety over my purchase

[@jimst3r1]

How’s the amp?

[@kingdip91]

@jimst3r1 I honestly adore it, at first I felt it was a little power shy but once I figured out how to direct the power to just one headphone outlet it powered my hard to drive planar magnetics beautifully. as a pre amp for 2 channel listening it's also great, it's well connected and fits my use case perfectly.

[@jimst3r1]

@@kingdip91 oh shit I just got mine today and felt the same. How do you drive it to one output?

[@kingdip91]

@jimst3r1 you have to go into the amp menu and change it so pressing the volume knob changes between outputs, put it in HPO and just cycle through and voila

[@jimst3r1]

@@kingdip91 bro thank you so much. I just found those settings I just missed them! I got my LCDX headphones today too. With this amp and the SMSL D400 sounds mint! I just did that change and now it sounds even better. Extra oomph. And it’s in low gain mode too now to save my ears by default when I changed over. I was just referencing tracks and had it in high gain and now low gain sounds more like high lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rrrqwe2958]

I've been waiting so long for your A70 pro review,you made my day.

[@user-mh6ie9wm6m]

This amp is unbelievable. I was running a fiio K7 alongside my LCD-2c's and it was pretty good. But once I plugged them into THIS. It's like the LCD's could finally stretch its legs for the first time. #1. Much better soundstage. #2. Notably better separation. Before getting the A70pro, I could tell that the LCD's were struggling with the organ at 2:42 on "Tick-Tock" by Hans Zimmer. Just slightly under resolving. With the A70 pro, my LCD's no longer give a shit. Maybe the K7 was just underpowered, or maybe it just wasn't playing nice with the THX 788 chips, idk. But it was the same deal with my SRH1540's, it nearly took them into a different performance class. I was a serious believer that amps in general have gotten good enough that going any higher couldn't make that much of a difference, but I was instantly humbled by the A70 pro. Won't need an upgrade for years to come and I no longer even have to check out the impedance or sensitivity of headphones. This amp couldn't care less, it will drive it.

[@TechnoGuy11]

I don't need a headphone amp to have a bunch of features as long as it has power and sounds good that's all I need. I'm very happy with my Schiit Jotunheim 2 and little Xduoo tube hybrid, plus I've found the so-called "cleaner" and better measuring these amps get the more cold and lifeless they start to sound imo.

[@harrybaque5502]

Same

[@bifff8433]

Agreed. I could care less about feature sets. I want my stuff to be built to last and sound good. All the Schiit products I have do both of those things.

[@ZReviews]

The Lifelessness is getting better. But Schiit needs Something more than what they have.

[@bifff8433]

They add incredible new products all the time (Five in the last few months). You should reach out to them and get some test units.

[@ixoye56]

Schiit need to improve their build quality, they look like cheap crap from Walmart.

[@sandroreis5593]

I see the Schitts as "it sounds good as it is", and "we just have one product that is linear clean, for 199, that was easy to make, not sure why you'd get scammed over this, so go get that" Otherwise just listen to this X, Y, Z (tube, class A, Nexus, Continuity, take your pick or just gtfo. Very American, and I love it.

[@Djimbe]

@zreviews the Topping L70 does all of the separate channel memory and routing stuff... Its basically the A70 without the full out display I think the power is the same as well or almost identical, and @ $350 its a the bang4buck GOAT as it powers Tungstens apparently according to Leftist Owl.

[@endorphinADMIN]

love your reviews (just recently ran across your 15" sub review - osd trevoce, and 16" svs pb16 ultra) - great stuff. can't wait for the a70 / d70 combo - my xmas gift to mysef. ALMOST pulled the trigger on the aun, but hesitated - i jizzed for its sound, but quality of life is subpar (heat, vol knob, features). didn't hesitate with the topping combo.

[@shobhitmathur5686]

Love that Screen. Wish some of the Non Chi-Fi companies can pick on this. Zeos, when are we going to see reviews on Chord, Schiil, CA, Gashelli, etc?

[@ZReviews]

Geshelli doesn't have much in the way of NEW.. I am waiting for their Zoofa amp.

[@shobhitmathur5686]

@@ZReviews Gashelli's akm 4499 version dac is reviewed? A number of new dacs have come up using this chip.

[@eobet]

RME ADI-2 has had a similar screen for years at least…

[@RokkitAudioKit]

22:11 He is referring to the PC game Counter Strike: Source, the startup logo music. Incase anyone was wondering. 👍

[@X9G6]

Would be interesting if you had a look at the Schiit MJOLNIR 3 pure class a headamp. Quite pricey though.

[@marckant3611]

Hi Zeos, I love the review. You made me very curious for the upcoming review of both D70 PRO dacs. I recently bought the Octo. I like it very much but I want to know if I made the right decision 😅

[@lord_haven1114]

If you like it then you made the right decision.

[@johnlemak4680]

How did the tungsten do on this? Just placed my order for my single sided tungsten this morning, can’t wait!

[@dazzlerweb]

I find if I need to mess with eq/filters it's recording dependant, not my system, I'm sure glad they exist.

[@ryanchristopher2810]

Firmware update suggestion. Give the option to change the vu meters to specifically left OR right. If ya got the stack, bam.

[@anthixious]

Zeos I just noticed, do you have two Aune S17 amps on your desk? Damn dude. Nice video, topping is one company I'm considering for my next DAC and amp. Highly considering the Denafrips Ares 12th-1.

[@Revan83]

I belive it's 17 pro and s9c pro.

[@unravelpeng9565]

Great review Zeos I want this 😂😂 But I want new 90 series more when I see new 70 series already this great .

[@G3rain1]

"Valve" mode is probably adding 2nd order harmonics. So if you play a 1k sine wave you also get a 2k sine wave at like 10db lower or something.

[@Vantavimeow]

Love my A70 Pro/D70 Pro stack, I'm kinda scared of the amp blowing up the day I put it under a proper load (see horror stories on forums) because the Meze 109 is the most comically inappropriate headphone I could power with it. It's genuinely scary knowing how much power is behind this amp 😂I'm running around -45 db on low gain 💀

[@sheep7255]

Do you still have the Senn HD560s'? You had mixed opinions on them, saying they were too good and shit. Random, I know, but it popped in my brain randomly

[@nhennessy6434]

I bought the A70 Pro three months ago to replace my Drop THX AAA 789. I wanted something that could drive anything, and based on the review in ASR, it looked like this was slightly better than the A90 D at $100 less, so a true no brainer for me. I'm trying to think of an excuse to get one of the D70's, but I already have an Octo DAC 8 Pro which is eight channels and I use six those channels for home theater while using the remaining two channels for the headphone based system. So no need to ever buy another DAC for me.

[@datdudeinred]

How do you use those 6 channels? Do you do fully custom dolby atmos? Like how dms did?

[@nhennessy6434]

I do Dolby Atmos with headphones (24 virtualized channels) over my Smyth A16 Realizer with which I captured Dutch & Dutch 8Cs in a recording studio, and my home system (5 Kef LS 50 Metas+ dual SVS SB 2000 subs), I use two channels on the Octo to render the feed from the A16. The other 6 channels are a 5.1 channel PCM Dolby Digital Plus feed from my Mele Quieter 3 rendering of streaming channels like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, Shudder, Qobuz, Tidal, and AMC+. No ATMOS on my 5.1 channel speaker based system.@@datdudeinred

[@ottawamountainman]

Ignoring the additional feature set... given that most users are not reviewers and have just one set of cans connected to just one input source... How would you compare the sound quality from the A90/D90D stack vs this new A70Pro/D70Pro stack .... ? thanks for the great presentation. cheers

[@ZReviews]

Power limitations would be the event that causes you to NEED an upgrade. Depending on the Cans you are using you are driving it may or may not show the sound change enough to care.

[@michaelmacvittie6977]

If you’re looking at something like this, I doubt you have one set of cans

[@ottawamountainman]

I was simply asking from sound quality perspective (not as an upgrade; and not based on functionality) whether this latest Topping 70 Pro DAC sits at the top of their lineup or that still goes to the 90 series; or the difference is imperceptible ?

[@ZReviews]

@@ottawamountainman I think the DAC is probably a little better in the 70 Series now. But honestly is it worth spending and selling and doing the swap? probably not.

[@maikij082]

​@@ZReviewsI'm currently running Arya stealth + thieaudio mmk3 off l30+e30 combo that I purchased when I started my audio journey Given that Would upgrading to either the a70/d70 pro or a90d/d90 combo be beneficial for me for the gear I'm currently running? (Will probably get something more fancy in the future but this is for now) And if so i'm leaning more towards the a70/d70 pro for the looks/functionality of the screen, if money is no concern Is it the right choice compared to a90d/d90? Your feedback will be most appreciated

[@bountyhuntersgamingBHxG]

I just grabbed the S.M.S.L. AO300, with a Wiim Pro Plus to stream. Setup sounded suberb on my Klipsch RP600M's but I need those for my living room setup. Now I need a pair of good bookshelves under 600$, that surpasses my Klipsch. Any recommendations? I could use some help. Looking at KefQ150, Emotiva B2+, Wharfdale Diamonds 12.2, PolK Audio Reserve 100's, or 200. 🤔

[@ZReviews]

Interesting. How about the Q Acoustic 3030i?

[@bountyhuntersgamingBHxG]

@@ZReviews Thank you Z!!! I appreciate it. I will look into the Q Acoustic 3030i.

[@OblivionIce]

Love the "Down In It" NIN 4 lyf. Have to trust you if you like NIN.

[@masterxyr]

they do make for a splendid stack

[@bobbyllantin3817]

@zreviews do you think the a70 will drive my dan clark stealths nicely?

[@gramblor1]

Would these DACs be a good match to go with iLoud MTMs? Would the knob on the DAC control volume for the iLoud’s?

[@christopherviers8302]

Hot Damn...!!! What with the unbelievable speed that stereo equipment is evolving at these days, along with the equally lower and lower prices involved with the aforesaid, it kind of makes a person somewhat paranoid when buying something today, when you know that 6-9 mos. down the road, you'll be able to buy something much better at a more affordable price...!!! What a wonderful problem to have, eh...!!!

[@mastaboog749]

Really considering this, i use a jotunehim 2 on my tv and a lyr 3 on my laptop

[@Cooki3_1337]

hey, i've got a schiit magnius, which has a delay relais to not mess up the headphones at start when you let them plugged in, does this a70pro has something like that, cause i see you turning it off and on while all headphones are plugged in, if yes i will definetly get one this year! thanks for the reply in advance!:D

[@skreeog]

Ohi Zeus. I lvoe your content, but i was wondering... when will you do the review for the Arya Organic? You loved the Stealth, and i'd love to hear your take on the Organic. Great content as always, anyway.

[@ZReviews]

I don't have them here. So I am waiting.

[@artdeerhansungcho7163]

Is the volume controller on the a70 Pro made of plastic? Is it metal? What is the quality of the volume compared to the a90d?

[@RocketLauncherwithInfiniteAmmo]

Zeos mate, is there any way to completely defeat the display?

[@lev_anni]

No EQ, bass, treble tone control in that combination?

[@RadToucan]

I love American shit too dude, but you’re absolutely right. Topping is just killing it with the features wow

[@Rider4683]

Hi. I have a dx7 pro that I use with my Clear mg and in rca on the denon in stereo. I am very hesitant between the A70 Pro and the a90d. What are the differences? Which one would you recommend?

[@ZReviews]

Comparing DAC is much harder. If both have the features you want. Choose the unit that fits better with your stack and connections. I also vote the one that is cheaper. Especially with the same brand.

[@Rider4683]

@@ZReviews so a90d is better??

[@Rider4683]

@@ZReviews Good morning. I hope you are well. I got A70 pro for my dx7 pro. I wanted to ask you about something. From dac to preamp, does it change much in quality and power if you switch from ricable hifi rca connection to balanced xlr to xlr connection? And xlr to 6.3 jack? If so, which xlr to put in if it's worth it? Thank you very much.

[@adewolf]

How is this stack with the Susvara, my fave non-electrostatics

[@maku4302]

Can u also run iems with it or is that a bad idear

[@defu8592]

asking for a friend, where did you get the two stickers on those bad boys? asking for a friend ofc.

[@ZReviews]

Search Sexy Anime Sticker on Amazon. You will find so many

[@piwypd0]

hey guys, in the office they got some sennheise hd 300, but the ear cups hurt my ears after a couple of hours.... any suggestion on cusps replacement?

[@jeremycole2869]

What speker amp do you recommend getting for jbl 580

[@SC-it8gs]

TOPPING D70 Pro Sabre vs. SMSL DO300 for a DAC ?

[@KamenMinkov]

How do you make the two DACs play at the same time?

[@meangoooo]

There have been reports of A70 Pro's malfunctioning, a la L30s and A90s. I'd be wary of this product, let alone Topping amps in general.

[@ps3guy22]

I've read some of the reports of some of topping digitally volume controlled dacs being reset to 0.0 dB when in pre-amp mode. I thought they were fringe cases.. untill it happened to me last night lmao . Nearly blew my eardrums off

[@ZReviews]

I wonder if that is Infrared related. Other remotes doing shit in the room. @@ps3guy22

[@ps3guy22]

@@ZReviews I have an E70 and there are no remotes in the room. The volume when straight to 0 db and ,after muting the source, couldn't be changed until a full power restet. Funnily enough, the first time this glitched on me was last week when the volume when to -99dB and a similar lock up happened. I didn't think too much of it since it essentially muted the volume instead of going full throttle. Both times however occurred when I was using the volume knob.

[@Revan83]

Very powerful amp, but it dies with an error on the screen becouse of this)) Just like new 90-series amp. Many comments at the audiosciencereview with this problem. So I wouldn't take any chances with Topping amps.

[@derreckr6494]

Yeah, these are definitely my next upgrades, how far away is Christmas? 😂

[@vitalysamonov3399]

Do I want to use this as preamp for my tube amp or use the tube as preamp into a70 amp . Thanks.

[@ZReviews]

Why not both? Wait..

[@RitzyBusiness]

I want that d70 sabre so damn much, but its not in my budget.

[@52092634]

How’s sound if compare to geshelli labs achel 3 pro😂

[@silvercarbin-q8666]

well i notice a difference if i replaced my asgard 3 with the 100 dollar dac with this setup a70 and d70

[@alessandrodifrancesco8110]

how can you listen at -11db?? It is damn high volume on that amp. You will lose your hearing in a few years time mate

[@Letechno]

Topping releases new amplifiers quickly and this is reflected in the quality of the units. It kept cutting out when I turned the volume up a little too high. I had to return this unit !

[@Matiazletsplay]

Hey Zeos what happend if i feed this with the ifi zen Dac?

[@ZReviews]

Nothing negative.. You just add 17wpc of headroom

[@alicedunstan1441]

test also the octo?

[@nothingelse1520]

I'm surprised you didn't use some ridiculously powerful headphone to test them. I think the AKG K1000 is the most notoriously hard to drive headphone that required a speaker amp. Very rare 20 years ago. I imagine even rarer now.

[@Stormcrownn]

Kinda want to see how tungstens run on this stack. the recommended amps so far are well above the price of tungstens already

[@MyFatherLoves]

The Tungstens are harder to drive than Susvara.

[@michaelmacvittie6977]

I have no use or room for something of this size, but it delights me that I have the ability to get something that fucks this much for (relatively) cheap.

[@denis4072]

@ 9:20 LMFAO

[@trbwhocares8127]

i just bought a topping a90d like a couple days ago :(

[@Rp707]

Hahaha rip your music enjoyment.

[@trbwhocares8127]

@@Rp707 I gonna try to sell because it might be pretty close in price I hope I'm lucky

[@ZReviews]

You did nothing wrong.

[@trbwhocares8127]

@@ZReviews yeah but having the multiple headphones out is really useful to me

[@trbwhocares8127]

Sold my a90d and bought a a70 pro and didn't even waste much money doing that

[@MyFatherLoves]

mOdHOusE tUngSTen!! (Fairy god parents)

[@matthewhilty4209]

That much power and it doesn't get warm ? Eh ? I have a hard time believing those specs. It might be possible but I find it hard to believe.

[@innie721]

i have these and the amp definitely gets warm

[@matthewhilty4209]

@@innie721 Ok. Thank You that makes sense. Power has to be dissipated to heat somewhere in the chain.

[@GilReynard]

I have these and the A70 Pro clips in driving my Hifiman HE-6 on certain songs. I really wanted to hear Zeos explain how well it did at driving that Tungsten …

[@ZReviews]

@@GilReynard Tungsten is very dependent on Voltage gain bias of an amp. That is why cheap, small amps can sometimes run it fine. The HE-6 need just F___ loads of amps to drive them.

[@stuka78]

I’d buy it only for the VU meter!!!

[@thefiredman0]

so pretty

[@subroutine8492]

i really should stop watching your videos... just ordered the a70/d70 combo 😑

[@brianfirlie3693]

Panda stack v2.0

[@lowrider007007]

This is not the most powerful headphone amp you've reviewed, and you may be surprised which was actually more powerful once you dig into the specs, the Violectric V222, which is more powerful at higher Ohms which is arguably more important, the problem with conventional amplification is that it looks impressive initially, 17 watts!!!!!! (OMG), but that is into 16 Ohms and tanks at higher Ohm loads (although still high), the Topping a70 is rated as a 17w amp, but 1.26w @ 300 Oms, and 670mW @ 600 Ohms, compared to the Violectric V222 which is 'only' rated as a 3.5w amp, but it manages to pump 1.8w @ 300 Ohms, and 900mW @ 600 Ohms!, so not all is as it seems on the surface, if you're running for example the HD600/650/6XX the Violectric would probably be the better amp to go for if you are hungry for real power.

[@boubakane]

These amps r for speakers or headphones for Giants 😂

[@alstonmaccow9386]

Why?

[@alstonmaccow9386]

Why what’s the point of all this twat features on a headphone amp There was a time where you would criticise this type of headphone amps Times have change and I know we all got to eat

[@psysword]

As long as mojo 2 has more soul, the Chinese DACs must struggle

[@stuka78]

Topping = Moondrop

[@kurt120032002]

no I would not get this. This is not interesting, in fact is the total opposite of interesting. We got a lot of amp that sound good, now it also need to be interesting. digital eye candy is not interesting, we got that everywhere we go. Do this in analog ... Phonitor. That is an interesting unit. Also why get this at all, it is a boring unit that will be outdated in 8 months. Violectric V281 out of production for literally years and still has it's place for those who love that sound. Between this and a schiit, I would be more interested in testing the Schiit amp then this, in fact I would not be interested in this at all because as I said it is just a drop in their bucket.

[@x3LightNinG]

chi-fi not again

[@ZReviews]

It is a thing with the most development at the lowest costs.

[@x3LightNinG]

@@ZReviews true and also at the cost of stealing intellectual property. big no for myself

[@unravelpeng9565]

​@@x3LightNinGI think Johnyang the head engineer of Topping doesn't steal any IP.

[@x3LightNinG]

@@unravelpeng9565 probably, maybe, but i simply couldnt wrap myself around that statement

[@masterazlan6999]

Yea we r 'topping up'.. Do u realised wutz doez it means butt... Peace!

[@dilbyjones]

LOL TOO BAD....lol omg terribly hilarious. By thw way one of the comments on this " comment " section is missing the thumbs up down thing... lol joke

[@ZReviews]

Wat?

[@lefan1959]

Topping product absolute garbage, sounding like a waste money

[@charlesurias]

What's wrong with the A70 Pro?

[@nwr99nwr99]

Untrue.

[@MrPINKFL0YD]

I can't stand this guy. Not trolling.

[@ZReviews]

I can't stand this comment. Kinda trolling.

[@psysword]

@@ZReviewsha ha