180 Miles for $55k: Is the NEW VinFast VF8 electric SUV worth buying?

180 Miles for $55k: Is the NEW VinFast VF8 electric SUV worth buying?
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[@richh650]

High cost, limited range, and stupid battery subscription monthly added costs. I don't see any way Vinfast can be successful with their current business model.

[@ongmat4439]

Unlike other car makers, They have high cost because they totally rely on the suppliers..so no cost control over a large part of total cost. If a supplier jacks up their price for whatever reason, Vinfast will follow. In terms of quality, you will need to pray that all the parts and components work well together.

[@thanhtungnguyen1100]

As a Vietnamese, I will never buy a Vinfast. This car is totally sucks. Some people in VN bought Vinfast car, when the cars had problems, they complained. And the next day, vinfast brought police to their house to threaten them. That is the way vinfast doing business. It is totally sucks. I dont know if American so stupid to buy vinfast car or even buy stock when vinfast IPO.

[@curtng0226]

I doubt about Vinfast now. I'm going to wait for a few more years to see how they do.

[@thomasback7600]

Don’t bother to wait because they will not be around soon I say top 8 months from now.

[@ongmat4439]

@@thomasback7600 , I give it 2 - 3 years so that the arrogant billionaire can have enough time to squander his ill-gotten fortune.

[@johnbrookhaven7134]

They came to california today..dont you know that ..buy it..

[@eagletrump2542]

@@johnbrookhaven7134 : Buying that piece of shittttttttt. Nahhhhh, not in my life 😂

[@alBngnnuyn8070]

@johnbrookhaven7134 I buy it if you pay my car insurance, life insurance, utility bills, and pay me $500,000 USD monthly. Otherwise, not even over my dead body, I would get near that car, hahahah.

[@timecone57]

Subscription for battery hahaha…..this is WEF business model and people with money to buy cars see right through that BS. In New Jersey they are making a law to ban that type of subscription model for amenities in cars…bmw was going to charge for heated seats

[@vancity2349]

I hate subscriptions for anything

[@louisalong7019]

Nah, it's the VF8 battery pack, which can be easily replaced to increase the EV ranges. However, VinFast EVs have been considered to be incredibly safe with high quality, according to reports. In fact, VinFast has manufactured over 1 million electric vehicles from fully electric motorbikes and SUVs to public buses, and its first electric motorbike Klara was made Vietnam in 2018. It's been more than 4 years; none of the VinFast EVs exploding or catching fire has been recorded. However, according to an 8-year report in March 2022, on average 8 Tesla cars explode or catch fire every year, and 7 Chinese made EVs including electric motorbikes explode or catch fire every week! Vietnam Plus-a web based news from Hanoi reported on September 14, 2022, since its debut in December 2021 to promote its environment awareness, a fleet of over 200 units of fully electric public VinBus has safely "carried over 122 million passengers" in Vietnam, which are 4 times more than Australia's entire population or about 1/3 of the US population! Surprisingly, not even a single case of VinBus exploding or catching fire has been reported so far. By contrast, cases of electric public buses exploding or catching have been reported in France, America and China. Also, there was an accident about 3 weeks ago involving a VF8 and a semi-trailer truck full of building materials on a Hanoi freeway in Vietnam. The truck crashed into the right side of the VF8. The T-collision just caused the VF8 to have a mild dent on its side doors and the VF8 driver walked away unharmed after the crash, but the truck was totaled. Go figure! www.flyingpenguin.com/?p=42313 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqCthHqneJ2gnas kzbin.info5KHs6jyCsEI

[@johnliberty9565]

@@louisalong7019 you sounded like the Chinese, COVID wasn’t originated from Wuhan. Who verified VF success story? The Red Party or VF tech team?

[@louisalong7019]

@@johnliberty9565 On January 10, 2020 WHO announces that the outbreak in Wuhan, China is caused by the 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV). Even the name Wuhan tells everybody where it is. Just type "when did covid-19 start in the world" in the Google search box. The Chinese claimed they invented everything in the world, except Wuhan virus! Go figure. I have never believed people saying the core of Chinese culture is lying and stealing until now!

[@yggdrasil9039]

Everyone in the EV game is having a go at fleecing the public at the moment. There's going to be some tears before bedtime.

[@cothatsusongtruockhichet5617]

Its totally a lemon. Previous vinfast cars (lux A and Lux SA) have been reported by many customers for appalling build quality and shocking after-sale customer service. They even sued a customer for reporting all the faults of his vinfast car. Rather pay 55k for a Lexus hybrid. Wouldn’t even stay near any vin-slow cars.

[@duerf5826]

Their previous cars were literally retrofitted BMW and Chevy lol. In terms of technology they have nothing. My guess why the VF EV costs so much is because they have to import most of the components and they probably use spared low-end batteries from Gotion which explains the pathetic range.

[@1stwind]

lol 99% Lux Owners are satisfied with those cars. Stop spreading bullshit.

[@RN-yo4qm]

Never trust Vinfast, look up what happened to VSmart (another company owned by the same Vingroup)

[@MPTran-pz1gm]

Vinfast business model is a joke. They will call the FBI on you if you say bad things about their brand, lol.

[@vietcongbuondanbannuocphan1791]

Not FBI. In Vietnam they send thug after KZbinr for bad review.

[@thachdungpham8142]

FBI isn't bad. They know what they do.

[@mail4tung]

You shouldn't say bad things about VF, and you should know where you came from. Stop being bad about Vietnamese. Any business in this world they starting out with something and later they will fix the problems on the way, like KIA and Hyundai in the 1980s.

[@MPTran-pz1gm]

@@mail4tung Are you going to report me to the secret police for stating a fact?

[@mail4tung]

@@MPTran-pz1gm You don't own Vf , and you don't test drive it, and you tell me you stated the facts...bs.

[@VNCH-SOUTH-VN]

No way.....I am sticking with my 1980 Toyota Corolla. I don't see any good reason to buy this China quality. Tesla will be my next car....Thanks Vinfast.

[@philiptran0862]

VinFast ( VinGroup) is real Oligarch from Northern Vietnam.

[@xkr510]

No on many levels to Vinfast. I’m in North America, Can’t stand Musk but Tesla is what I want. I cannot bring myself to pull the pin though.

[@enoughofthis]

DOA

[@Lost_Johnny]

It is interesting that Viet Nam is producing modern cars, but it looks like Vinfast need to improve their EVs.

[@EastLakeWatch]

100% made in communist ChiNazi but assembled by the vịtcộng, people in Vietnam called VinFét.

[@quangvinh1153]

@@EastLakeWatch And you 're the second generation of political Immigrants from 1975, aren't you?

[@vietforce2]

Who ,in their right mind, would buy an unproven vf8 for 58,400 with only 180 miles? PS: they raised the price.

[@Shockers_ClassOf1990]

Vinfast is the new version of Yugo. Once proven, it may overtake the crown of the worst import cars in the US history.

[@johnbrookhaven7134]

No..vinfast is the new version of tesla..

[@johnbrookhaven7134]

You must buy vinfast..

[@This_tub]

Don't leave negative review, Communist thugs will arrest you

[@Shockers_ClassOf1990]

You're so hilarious. They can't handle the truth?

[@giaitri5118]

@@johnbrookhaven7134 have you buy your yet? Please make a video.

[@AnhBui-zp1ee]

Went to the store did my research the outside car built is not bad the inside is garbage you can tell sales reps are not confident in selling there car this was at Irvine spectrum California…………. Bad experience as well they could not build value sharing any information they need sales rep more than ever not customer service reps

[@nbstreet0631]

You should take another look at the Vinfast model now based on their new pricing, software upgrades etc. I find a lot of the negative reviews had ulterior motives and has been debunked.

[@vinnydoan9434]

Vinfast is China EV with EU body design. Make sure the VinFast EV buyer own #10 wrench because the first suggestion to fix any problem for this car is disconnect the battery wait for 5 minutes then reconnect battery and hope it will fix the problem

[@User-dn526]

You are so funny 😂😂😂👍👍👍kkkk

[@teofilol2666]

I thought vinfast is basically German tech with Vietnamese design.

[@SEATTLE4KWalking]

Vinfast made in China but label it in Vietnam, so far 8 billions lost and 4 billions debt. Many Vinfast Cars broke down and malfunction in Vietnam but no once know how to fix?

[@saigonaisnhatrang762]

Loại xe thô sơ này khó bán ở Mỹ lắm dấy.

[@thanhuy68]

I really like its appearance, its luxury feel and build quality. I actually reserved a vf8 but after the announcement of city edition and pricing, I was so disappointed. I dont see how in the world anyone would want to pay $55,000-$59,000 for a EV car with just 179 miles range nowaday. The standard Tesla model 3 with 260 miles range is still way better than vf8 city edition and the price is just $48,000 much cheaper than vf8 city edition. The actual range probably is no more than 100 miles if you keep the battery between 20%-80% charge. This is way too short. The problem with Vinfast is that they dont own any technology. Thus, when problems/errors occur, they cannot resolve it more quickly because they didnt develope the technology, therfore, they either rely on whoever sold them the technology or it will take them sometime to figure out how to fix it. Some owners already complained about the 12v battery and infotainment.

[@isthisme-ct9fe]

They can’t even keep up with combustion-engine cars,

[@coprung]

Nếu lần này nó thất bại bởi xe điện thì nó trở về sx bao cao su tên VinCondom hay băng vệ sinh VinTampon

[@jsanders100]

All right Sam it’s -6 here, uk

[@TheZevvy]

Why would anyone pay top dollar for a Vietnamese-brand car and not something more proven still baffles me.

[@taison03251970]

180-mile range EV for $55K? Where did they get confidence? After all, it is a Vietnamese car without any proved track record. Yeah, people will flock to get one, NOT!

[@nguyennghialan]

Their real estate business in Vietnam is sinking as their sponsorship from the Communist Party is fading. They do have some good and overpriced realestate products but the recent ones are not that great. They have tried making smart phones, TV, retail minimarket... and all failed. Vinfast is now relocated to Singapore and does not have much link to the Vingroup. So, if you guys loose money with Vinfast, I dont think Vingroup will sell their real estate to pay you back. The Party already gave them some warnings and tighten the l;oans/credits, Vingroup and Vinfast are in big trouble.

[@johndoe3092]

i thought Vinfast is too big to fail in Vietnam?

[@EastLakeWatch]

@@johndoe3092 everything communist touch gonna to fail.

[@thanhtran-hq9dk]

Good luck people. Go to Las Vegas better.

[@brandon-fjb2235]

DON'T BOTHER WITH THIS TRASH CAR !!!!

[@LL-ls8es]

😂😂😂new Yugo

[@berthogendoorn2133]

When VinFast start their USA plant to produce these cars, the story may change, lets see how it all unfolds!

[@quangsontran766]

180 miles is for City version only Friend, ECO and Plus version is around 280 miles. Regarding price, ECO version without battery 40.700 and now more than 42,000 USD when you said price 55,000 USD is included battery Friend.

[@timvu9313]

With this toy version for the introductory its brand to the US, Vinfast will be another Yugo, at its best.

[@quangsontran766]

@@timvu9313 let see how Friend, you can say any thing you want and Vinfast still goes ahead and do their job. Please takes care of you first then think about anything else

[@MsHantran]

@@quangsontran766

[@ongmat4439]

@Bert Hogendoorn, It's highly unlike that it will happen. So far, after a lot of talk sand time spent, they've only signed a memo with the state of NC and you know a memo means next to nothing. No official contract, no commitment..Nothing concrete...

[@phantrangcd]

Wait. time will answer. Your oppinion just 1 of hundreds positive oppinion.

[@kyliefan7]

This EV roll out seems to be based on the XBOX One roll out…….Do everything wrong to surprise everyone???

[@snowwhite857]

VINFAST is just a laughing stock, look cheap. Even the name sound cheap period.

[@r.l.8170]

At that price, I'll just buy myself a Tesla...

[@jackwai8930]

Dated car design, over confident promotion and over rated marketing. Maybe Vietnamese love its concept but not the rest of the world does. Just another over priced Daewoo

[@Mateito_PR]

You’re missing a lot of key information in this review. This edition that’s being released is the “city” edition and is meant for customers who don’t need a lot of range and are interested in getting their hands on the early edition model. You speak of the American market and don’t have any experience here. You constantly mention their decision to leave Australia which is valid but don’t mention how it make sense to work out of the American market where there is a much larger market to sell to. They’ve also invested in building a factory stateside to obtain the tax credit for customers. While there are growing pains I find it wildly irresponsible to say they won’t be successful at all based off your personal bias. The delayed power response is a good idea because it helps makes the transition easier from ICE vehicles. There is no need to have a full size suv doing 0-60 in less than 4 seconds. It’s unsafe and most drivers are not experienced enough to deal with that type of performance. It also helps with mileage. You have some good info but the constant fire and brimstone for every manufacturer and their products seems lazy.

[@vanphan9318]

Vietnamese electric car is great

[@chris27gea58]

Vinfast looks like it wants to follow Tesla's lead and base vehicle manufacturing on localised supply chain partnerships or on its own strategically located in-house production as far as possible. It is impossible to make the Viking happy. Unless the company is Tesla or BYD then they must be doing everything wrong! Vinfast comes to EV auto manufacturing without any ICE era ballast. And, it has deep pockets and a clear plan. Importantly, Vinfast is not a fly by night operation. It is investing heavily in new manufacturing facilities. It will be very interesting to see how Vinfast fares. Is there room for another cleanskin/21st century manufacturer of mainstream EVs besides Tesla and BYD (and other emerging EV automakers in China) to strut the world stage? One way or another, I'm glad to see Vinfast in this for the long haul.

[@johnmalcom9159]

Not sure what you are smoking.

[@chris27gea58]

@@johnmalcom9159 Did you want to take issue with anything I said? If so, maybe you should have addressed that directly. Otherwise, I'm not interested in your reaction to my comment.

[@tren133]

@@chris27gea58 I get the argument you are trying to make, but still Vinfast is not going to succeed. Yes Tesla and BYD are very successful, even compared to other EV makers, because they are highly vertically oriented carmakers focused only on EVs, and BYD is growing even faster than Tesla because BYD is also the second largest lithium cell manufacturer in the world, so they have an endless supply of batteries to put into their cars. Vinfast is trying to copy that blueprint of success, and trying to do it so quickly that they're already putting cars on a boat to send to the US to sell. But there is just no way they can succeed. Having deep pockets, a fancy factory, and a plan, doesn't mean they can make a good car that can be sold for a profit. I don't care how many companies VinGroup (VinUni, VinPhone, VinThis, VinThat) owns, the Saudis have more money, and the EV maker they are bankrolling, Lucid, is still in production hell and having trouble staying afloat, and Lucid has been working on their ONE model for over 10 years. Vinfast is gonna come in, and develop 3 to 4 different EV models, AND setup a US factory in NC, AND do all that in like 3 years? Not a chance in hell. The Chinese can do it because they have a MASSIVE automotive sector that's been building 20 million cars per year for decades, with joint ventures with every major carmaker in the world that have transferred technology and other knowhow, as well as an army of engineers and other technicians knowledgeable about every aspect of the automotive supply chain. You couple that with the Chinese government that has spent at least 10 years building up China as the unquestioned global leader in lithium battery production. BYD, chinese EV startups, and state owned automakers pivoting into EVs can all draw on this to accelerate their transition into making plug in vehicles, and that's what they are doing. But Vietnam has NONE of that, which is why the early test of the VF8 has shown it is an extremely half baked and highly inefficient vehicle, not ready for American consumers. Vinfast can have all the money in the world (not that they do, since BYD, CATL, and all the Chinese majors have more money), but they simply do not have access to the technical knowhow, human resources, as well as lithium and just general carmaking supply chain which would allow them to develop a competitive EV. And it will take them years, if not decades, to catch up.

[@chris27gea58]

@@tren133 Look, I don't object to anything you have said because I don't know what the future holds (just as you don't). I dwelt on two matters. First, Vinfast is a company to watch owing to its deep pockets and the seriousness of its efforts so far. Second, it is absurd to expect Vinfast or any new player in the EV game to have everything down pat today. Tesla in 2019 wasn't the company that it is today - it was a company starting to look like that it could become the company that it is today. Now, if you are discounting Vinfast's chances right off the bat then I think that shows a lack of familiarity with what Vinfast is up to and, frankly, your conclusion is premature. Amongst the new players, viz. not including legacy auto companies (either based in the USA, Europe, China or Japan), Vinfast is notable for the lengths it has gone to in order to start making itself into the vertically integrated company that it will need to be if it is to have any chance of success as an EV auto company. Just for the record, Vinfast has contracts with South Korean, Chinese, Israeli and Taiwanese battery manufacturers and it will be making it own batteries in Vietnam at least. It wouldn't shock me if we see a JV battery factory in the USA, either. Vinfast understood what it was getting itself into when it started building the North Carolina vehicle manufacturing plant. Associated investments will likely follow. Unlike a lot of vehicle manufacturers Vinfast isn't complaining about rules governing subsidies in the USA. On the contrary, its USA operation is key to Vinfast's global plan - vehicle sales in Vietnam, in the near term, will be insufficient to sustain a successful foray in auto manufacturing on a global scale. Vinfast, on the contrary, looks like it is following the Tesla 'localisation' play book with the US operation right at the centre of things. The difference of opinion we have on this matter comes down to this. I think Vinfast's moves so far have shown that the company understands what it has to do to be successful. Whether the company can follow through on what it has started is an open question.

[@ongmat4439]

@@chris27gea58 , Vinfast / Vingroup survives due to the ill-gotten gain through land grabs. However, they're not making any money now as the real estate market in socialist Vietnam is in deep freeze after its values have been inflated for decades. They are running out of cash, drowning in debt and huge loss, please read the reports they lodged with SEC for more details. That's why they are wanting this hasty IPO and expect uninformed investors to pay for their worthless stocks.

[@victoryvinfast-ql2wm]

VinFast cars feature superior modern technologies that completely surpass Tesla, and the value that VinFast brings is better in many aspects such as speed, experience, safety, and a range of other conveniences. It can be said that the VF8 is a car bestowed upon humanity by the gods. A pastor who uses the VF8 said that VinFast is the car of God and is the lord of all cars.

[@nguuyentienquang6711]

I come from vietnam country, and i don’t know why the price in vietnam expensive than US, 😂 lol. Vinfast sold car for vietnamese before get certificate @@

[@donnguyen8832]

Rid off Chinese dummy cars

[@tonylee141]

Don’t buy this car. It the worst car ever. It not worth it.

[@medannylee1]

The US market will give them a rude welcome.

[@pacovu8075]

It's original name is VinFuck

[@kha9867]

If you understand Vietnamese, search youtube so you can see folks posting pictures of dead vinfast cars on the roads in VN. Some Vids show the issue with charging ...

[@mikel4879]

180 miles range for $55K?🥴🤣😂🤣😂 I can do that with an indian Tata Tiago EV which is $10k.😂

[@quangsontran766]

180 miles is for City version only Friend, ECO and Plus version is around 280 miles. Regarding price, ECO version without battery 40.700 and now more than 42,000 USD when you said price 55,000 USD is included battery Friend.

[@tocu9808]

@@quangsontran766 How much would the 280miles/charge version cost, including the battery pack ?

[@theusa395]

@@quangsontran766 Right now, Vinfast does not a single dealership to service their EVs after sales in California. They do house calls if the cars have problems? How about charging stations?

[@joshlouissr.5847]

@@theusa395 Vinfast now has 10 stores in California and includes mobile services. They have also linked up with ElectrifyAmerica to provide charging station

[@theusa395]

@@joshlouissr.5847 10 stores or 20 show rooms? I, myself, don’t believe a bit what they said from years living under their rules. One more thing all the media are controlled by the communist party.

[@Thiennguyen-qo2lr]

This piece s... We call vinFART don't buy this trouble for your life

[@DungNguyen-hz5tb]

vinfast- junk

[@dutrieu6937]

Ba que- rác

[@KHANHNGUYEN-ig4cj]

People must be very stupid to buy car 55 k for 180 miles range .

[@19454]

Don’t buy car from ViinFast. This cars come from VN, but basically these cars from China.

[@Daitrn2002]

Probably China behind all this and used Vietnam to sell their cars. Since the U.S didn’t let them to import their EV, so this could be their alternative way to get in the U.S market.

[@maicaster8985]

Vinfast will be DOA in the USA

[@soothingrelaxingmeditation3129]

It's a stock scam sham

[@Cai-Luong-Chi-Bao]

This money laundering vehicle can get you a Vietnamese gf

[@johndoe3092]

Entering US stock market is Vinfast's ultimate goal. Selling cars is not their top priority for now. They jack up the price to make their balance sheets look good for the coming IPO.

[@KL-og8gg]

IPO will pump and dump. Dont fall for it.

[@pacificislander8503]

I don't think it's a good buy, subscription will be the downfall of it

[@b4804514]

I visited the showroom in Berkeley CA and the battery lease was a deal killer.

[@User-nr3gh]

Vinfast is advertising different. Selling is different thing. Untrusted company.

[@thuan6262]

What difference?

[@nlpnt]

The elephant in the room is the Chevy Bolt; 259 miles for $25k and a massive dealer network.

[@TramNguyen-ou4rq]

Agree.

[@DrBrainrape]

Didn’t they recall and stop selling the bolt for poor quality and fire hazard?

[@andrerodriguez7603]

Fires included at no extra charge.

[@michaelthanh7997]

Purchase Vinfast Car and Get Free Coffin.

[@dudu5616]

A car from Vietnam.... Nah...

[@ctuna2011]

Concept is bad range is awful

[@cryptoico2647]

Need at least 300 miles range to satisfy US demands 😂

[@sorbo951]

Adding to what you already knew, Vingroup (making Vinfast) bussiness style is "instant noodle" style. Before the EV Vinfast, they made smart phone, smart TV then petrol cars..., all have short lives. EV making bussiness could has short life as well. The Vinfast EVs are simply assembled in VN from predominantly oversea technologies and components. In my opinion, the Vinfast people are dwarfs but wanting to act like giants.

[@minhdang390]

And you forgot Vinmart, kind of a chain of retail stores. Then they are all purchased by Masan (M&A) - another communist enterprise - and renamed as " Winmart " til now 😂😂😂😂😂

[@mikeho7713]

They can’t even make they own screw basically everything is oversee and put together in Vietnam and called it made in Vietnam 😂☠️

[@ongmat4439]

@@渡海-q2w , Can you comment on Vinfast cars all you want but please do not make a generalization of Vietnamese people. Obviously you don't know much about them except watching a few youtube videos. I am a Vietnamese and disapprove of them and I vote by my choice.

[@MPTran-pz1gm]

Couldn't agree more.

[@mikeho7713]

@@ongmat4439we were talking about Vinfast and you in the comment trying to stirred sh_t up about Vietnamese u r an idiot I’m viet myself why would I talk bad about my own people @Ong 🧠🐮

[@tydang3582]

It’s junk.

[@ahchx861]

People in USA WILL pay more for an inferior car if is NOT a tesla, belive me, some people in usa is asylum grade crazy.

[@vietnam-conghoa]

Vin phét 😅😅😅🦆🦆🦆➕➕➕

[@xemhangdoc]

these cars like vinfast over promoted from their team everywhere. Actually, it not worth as they said. 90% parts from china, 10% remain from somewhere on the earth. Vinfast just an assembly company.

[@phantrangcd]

Are you vietnamese, dog. Tell me a company not using parts from China.

[@lucasdelargy]

a full mouth of shit 😅

[@task5147]

Apparently, they have more German and Austrian parts than you think... such as BMW, ZF, AVL, Magna Steyr, etc.

[@subprime2006]

Following the trend of EV so they slap parts together and want to be value at $60 billion. Please pass the crack pipe?

[@victoryvinfast-ql2wm]

Vinfast car is the god of the race. Possessing the world's number 1 safety and durability, superior technology. It is the quintessence of humanity. You will be completely conquered when experiencing vinfast cars.

[@afs5609]

when were they in Australia? where was the factory site, I suspect Victoria, & why did they pack up and leave, is this another example of the previous Liberal government negative approach to car manufacture & electric cars?

[@johnbrown4568]

This is hilarious ---> VinFast is now the newest automotive oxymoron.

[@theusa395]

In the Vinfast brochure. It’s said “assembled in Việt Nam”, not manufactured nor produced in Việt Nam. I guess they use almost all Chinese parts (components) then assemble in a factory in Việt Nam.

[@AndyTN64]

Heck Mustang MachE is way better, you can get services at Ford Dealer. With VinSlow where you get your services from?

[@devonbikefilms]

As we say in parts of the UK, they’re having a tin bath.

[@kingngo]

180 mile range for 55k, 🤣🤣🤣what a joke

[@doit_HI]

if the battery range is 650 miles for 50k$ ,two hours charge for 100%, will buy it

[@nickmcconnell1291]

Ludicrous mode…..as to cost. US customers have Tesla as the standard to compare all other EVs too. The Vinfast falls way short on range….nor will most US drivers want to rent a battery. Vinfast will need to revamp their entire car and business model or they will soon be gone. Note: Battery swap type vehicles such as VinFast or NIO are somewhat trapped as to their design of the skateboard. All the cars have to use the same shape battery pack or swap stations would have to carry different shape packs for each model….cost prohibitive. So the manufacturers are handicapped as to the wheelbase and overall size of the vehicles to account for the fixed battery pack shape.

[@timvu9313]

Vinfast first run with the gasoline cars was eliminated in less than 3 years. With this laughing price/range EV, the second run will be much shorter.

[@ktpeters4827]

I went to Vietnam in July I saw only 2 vinFast on the street wondering why . Maybe too expensive or maybe they are not good

[@TheWhitegorilla808]

Most in Vietnam can’t afford it - avg person only makes a few hundred USD a month…

[@ktpeters4827]

@@TheWhitegorilla808 there are a lot of Honda and Toyota on the streets in Vietnam

[@Giang_as_artist]

@@ktpeters4827 I guess they still need time to approve the new product. The tax makes car price in Vietnam twice as much, hence you cannot just easily buy a car with less consideration like in the US or Europe

[@mikeho7713]

They can’t even make they own screw basically everything is oversee and put together in Vietnam and called it made in Vietnam 😂☠️

[@EastLakeWatch]

Made in communist China, assembled by communist vịtcộng.

[@theusa395]

In the Vinfast brochure, it’s said “assembled in Việt Nam”, not manufactured nor produced in Việt Nam. How about post sales services? Vinfast does not have a single dealership in California, not talking the entire US. If the Vinfast EVs have issues? House service calls?

[@dicky-duck6632]

through dealership agreement, many small companies using dealer's network of service

[@vietcongbuondanbannuocphan1791]

Dont buy Vinfake. They will send the Vietcong for complaint about their car.

[@MsHantran]

@@theusa395

[@alBngnnuyn8070]

You can teleport the president of Vingroup, and he will send the Vinfast Service spaceship to rescue you. I think it would take at least 1 hour, hahahaha 😆

[@jennifertran5861]

Vinfast ceo or whoever wants to go to ipo in west market, that’s they are needed to do a lot of research and studying the west market, and everything is needed to be upfront and honest not shady business, and u will learn the lessons, and u will burn a lots of $$$$c to be in the market

[@johnmalcom9159]

No value proposition here. Higher than average price lower than average range. People with money to buy this can get more for their dollar elsewhere. The vehicle is focused on the most competitive market segment with no positive differentiator

[@l.nguyen9176]

We call them 🇨🇳 CHINFAST 🇻🇳

[@charlieTL2023]

Hoho ho.. Santa Claus is on the way I hope car buyer get ready for a spaner just incase have to reset the power by remove the battery Technical issue while awaiting for a tow away truck 😞 TOM PENG

[@johndoe3092]

a no-name brand from a country with a track record of systematic fraudulent from the top. If it's half the price of other brand names and same quality, I might consider it.

[@charliez7130]

That's not a winning combo for VinFast, they'll need to make it much more appealing to succeed in the US market...

[@AndyTN64]

VinFast quickly turned into Vin$hit or VinSlow.

[@hutchplay]

Vinfart

[@uctrung5441]

Lmao

[@passby8070]

The front styling looks like a complete mess the back is ok.

[@jandebond5509]

Chevy Bolt EV 2023 ,,26.595 usd, 417 km full charge...Chevy Bolt EUV 2023,,28.195 usd, full charge 397 km....ha ha, Vin Fast can sell in Zimbabwe, price 500.000.000.000.000 Zimbabwe dollars 🇿🇼🇿🇼🇿🇼

[@alcubz2622]

I don't think its their intentions to thrive in the US market, its just a marketing ploy. They will soon start telling Vietnamese people that their car is an international brand and Americans bought and trust it. This will give the company a boost in prestige and Vietnamese will start buying it

[@tomho7308]

I don't want to take my life to gamble with this electric car. No thank's

[@vancity2349]

If true that, thats a fail....

[@retromoogle]

In real life 180 miles translates to 150 miles at best which is terrible. This car should come at $40-45k plus some incentives to attract buyers. Why would anyone throw away $55k for no name brand?

[@florante4991]

In real-world driving, this is maybe about 120 to 140 mile range per charge. Vinfast's strategy looks bad.

[@kimlong1356]

If you follow the 80 - 20% battery rule recommend by most manufacturers it’s come down to 108 miles

[@retromoogle]

@@kimlong1356 Wow! In that case, they need to change it to Grocery Edition 😄😆

[@eagletrump2542]

@@retromoogle 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍

[@thuan6262]

No not like that just some one want to pull them drown

[@shrekistlieben]

Vinfail

[@LarryHatch]

You got the numbers wrong!!!!! Its $42K and 180 miles for the City Edition but the $55K Eco gets 292 miles. The City Edition is urban city use and not intended for long haul trips.

[@philipnguyen3107]

Really? How about 13 billion dollars in the hole. Can it survive until it sells one million cars.

[@tren133]

No, it is 42k USD for the "City Version" with a small battery that you have to LEASE. To buy the car and the battery it will cost 57k USD, with a Vinfast "estimated range" of 180 miles. Except one of the few VF8 owners in Vietnam has done initial range testing, and he (Tom Peng) has the Plus version with the large battery (88 kWh usable), and even that version can barely get 180 miles, even though it is being driven in mild weather conditions and at 20 mph average speed because he is driving it in city traffic. That small battery version coming to the US is going to get laughable range when driven at US highway speeds in winter time. Completely unfit for the US market.

[@theusa395]

You live in the US. You know how big it is. Việt Nam is smaller than the state of California. People don’t drive that far on daily basis. In the US, people commute to work in the winter, very cold or in the summer, very hot, stuck in traffic…,how can the Vinfast EVs handle? One example: driving from LA to Las Vegas on a very hot summer day with 4, 5 persons in the car!

[@LarryHatch]

Vinfast has $4 billion they're about the spend on their North Carolina plant (first US sales early 2024) near the Research Triangle, which is basically the Silicon Valley of the Southeast. Ground is already clear/level and building to begin soon. That plant is an hour from Toyota's new $2.5 billion battery plant. And if Sam is right that Toyota hates EVs no doubt that plant will feed Vinfast. VF is getting $1.2 B in incentives from various NC governmental units so that really helps their bottom line.

[@theusa395]

@@LarryHatch You read too much news from Việt Nam. Did you know 100% of the Vietnamese media that are controlled by the Communist Party. You can’t believe what they said in the news. In Việt Nam there is a slogan “Don’t believe what the Communist said but look carefully what they had done”. Look at the VinGroup CEO, he was an international student in Ukraine. You know to be an international student to study abroad at that time, you don’t need to be an intelligent student but a son/daughter of the high ranking communist officers.

[@giaitri5118]

The only problem is they introduce Eco and Plus version only. Then they ship the city version for customers. With same price as Eco version but range only 180 miles. Are they tricking their customers?

[@jcnopenny4725]

Welcome to VC styles

[@yenchinh5386]

Hey dude that’s the way V C ( Vietnamese communist. ) doing business they showed U the orange, then they give U the Lemon,when U complain they’ll give U a million reasons.

[@dr.luanduynguyen6921]

Is VF8 a lemon product? A customer said that he can only drive a brand new one for 20km then his VF8 car stopped running... his VF8 ended up in the shop for a long time and he does not know when he can pick it up again (he seems to scare to come back to the shop right away)....Can VinFast can still successfully doing IPO on NASDAQ with this VF8 product? kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3eZmXeuib2Fj6s

[@NG.T.M]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmSolZiOiKlobbc

[@outkast40]

They are DOA in the states ! The economy is about to tank and customers want longer range at the cheapest price. They had better buy batteries from BYD or they are done.

[@timvu9313]

The first shipment to the YS is 999 vehicles. This probably is the first and only shipment because they will not able to clear out the inventory.

[@haidoan252]

No thanks for vinfast, with that kind of money for EV but must renting batteries.

[@Cai-Luong-Chi-Bao]

I would charge Vinfast $2 per hour per kilogram for carrying their batteries around. At speed, at idling and even during shut down.

[@nguyenpham7965]

VF was running its mouth about a battery range of 280, 290 until EPA tested and said its actually 179-mile range. In VF is a small company of VinGroup which funded and protected by the Communist Vietnamese government. VG is not an automobile company nor any tech company at all besides real estate. VG came out with VinPhone and bankrupted, then VF was born and came out with gasoline car roughly 3 years ago then they bankrupted also. In Vietnam, if customers complain about Vinfast cars, then the law enforcement will be called and harassed the customers.

[@alfrednguan9832]

Just wondering what will happen to Vietnam if Vingroup tumbles?

[@johndoe3092]

the government will come to the rescue?! Vinfast is too big to fail.

[@vanrozay8871]

On lack of instant acceleration: I doubt even old (set in their ways) drivers need the traditional brief delay for driving comfort. Who won't quickly adjust to, and prefer, the quicker response?

[@outkast40]

Transit buses have drive by wire and its really easy to adjust acceleration .

[@gdlonborg]

Unless and until the rest of the cars are compatible with the Tesla charging network, the infrastructure just kind of sucks. Once the standardization of that occurs, other makes will be unattractive relative to Tesla offerings.