(1898) Review: Dangerfield Training Lock

[@ambi8822]

Hey Bill, wish you all the best in your retirement from KZbin, and thank you for all the amazing lockpicking videos and tools you've showcased/built on this channel over the years!

[@JonnyDIY]

Enjoy Retirement Bill! 💕 to you and yours!

[@BuzzinsPetRock78]

Just hold the lock american style on one side, and Euro style on the other side....that means in both ways you get to see the pins. (For those that don't know what I mean: American style = bible up top, European style = bible below)

[@erichkitzmueller]

My thoughts exactly!

[@daveh7720]

I was just going to ask if it's useful to learn to pick an upside-down lock. Thanks!

[@twjohnson1203]

And Bible says, "...pick not thy neighbor's lock."

[@JohnSmith-gs4lw]

Just pick in front of a mirror.

[@iyeetsecurity922]

Why's it called the "bible"?

[@Liberty4Ever]

That is the nicest looking training lock I've ever seen. Machining the same side of both cores gives left and right handers a training side for learning and a final exam side to test with no peeking.

[@Chuycabra]

I think the solid side actually provides the opportunity to pick it using what you learned in a more real world scenario! Either way, that's a very nice training lock!

[@RealCyclops]

Agreed. one side you can see what you are doing and learn what you did... then flip it over to try it without being able to see.

[@sumduma55]

I agree I just posted something similar and I wish I had seen your post first.

[@paolafrege7766]

Mr Bill hope you and your family are well, we miss your videos !

[@neighborsgoat]

Thank you for the entire contribution! We will miss your developments & tools!

[@cshaiku]

Congratulations on your retirement! Family first! Many blessings and thanks for all the fish.

[@SunyJim]

Happy KZbin Retirement Bosnian Bill, thanks for the fantastic videos!

[@frankbiz]

Hope Bill is okay. Love ❤️ and prayers going out to you.

[@CTCTraining1]

Please see Bill’s reply to Joe’s comment earlier today.

[@Joe.Rogan.]

Listen Bill.. I'm kind of going through withdrawals over here. I haven't seen a lock gutting disaster in over a week. I need my fix Bill! All jokes aside I hope everything is good and you're just enjoying some well deserved time off.

[@bosnianbill]

Joe, I’m taking a break from posting videos for a while and, as you are a supporter, you deserve an explanation. As you may recall, a dear friend recently died from Covid-19, leaving her husband and two children. Unfortunately, her husband also contracted the virus and, at least initially, it looked like he had a mild case. My wife and I are legal guardians and moved the kids into our house in an effort to keep them from getting sick. As time went on, Rich’s illness got worse and he went into intensive care. Two days later he had to go on a ventilator. He remained on it for 6 days before recovering enough for the doctor to remove it. He has slowly (very slowly) been recovering and is out of intensive care. The doctor said he will recover, but the lungs are permanently damaged - the long-term effect is unknown but he IS breathing on his own, so that’s good news. The doctor expects the recovery and physical therapy to take several months. During his recovery we are continuing to keep the kids, ages 7 and 9. TBH, we had forgotten how much time it takes to care for young kids… It is like keeping wild monkeys in your house. You have to watch them every second because they have an uncanny ability to find, lose or break (or disassemble) your most valuable possessions. Nothing remains in its place. Dishes and utensils are used and cast aside, usually under a piece of furniture. Our house looks like a bomb went off in it. Organization is a distant memory. Keeping young children clean is also impossible because their hands and skin seem to exude this substance that they smear onto every surface. They require assistance for EVERYTHING from waking up, to getting dressed, bathed, fed, and shuttled to wherever you’ve managed to con into taking them - usually school. While they are gone, you sit around waiting for the phone call telling you that they set something on fire, and you find yourself wishing they’d come home so you can watch them. Communication? HA! Can YOU talk to a wild monkey? Commo has four modes: sleeping, crying, whining, and laughing - with the occasional grunt and squeal thrown in. Thank goodness I already have a high frequency hearing loss. Our peaceful lives have changed with the introduction of these two children, but we wouldn’t trade the experience for anything. Despite the challenges, they are truly a joy to have around. Still, if I win the lottery, I’m going to hire about 4 housekeepers full time to help Holly & I keep up with them. And therein lies the problem. Time. Something has to give and making 4 videos/week is something I simply can’t do while these kids are with us. I apologize for that but will still try to post the occasional video as I find time. bill

[@CTCTraining1]

@@bosnianbill ... thx so much for sharing your news and our hearts go out to you all. If monkeys permit I’d recommend pinning your post (or posting it again as a stand-alone) so more folk get to appreciate what you and the family are going through. Stay strong!

[@frankbiz]

@@bosnianbill Glad you are okay.

[@UTubeHandlesSuck]

@@bosnianbill Understood, and you do you brother- just had a bunch of us concerned is all. Best to you and Holly's sanity!

[@Joe.Rogan.]

@@bosnianbill Aw man Bill, I sure hope you know my comment was just a joke. You're a great man for stepping up to help someone out like that. Don't worry about us, we'll be here when you're life returns to normal. Hang in there.

[@nobodynone]

Bill are you out there, every thing oké?

[@EricBRowell]

Thank you for all the knowledge shared over the years. Enjoy the family focus.

[@Vanta_Blue]

Thanks for all you've done for us lowly viewers, Bill. Best of luck with the rest of your life. ♥

[@timmyshort1534]

Thank you for all the information and wisdom you've shared with the community and I hope you have a happy retirement!!

[@sixtydgree1]

Have a happy and fulfilling retirement Bosnian Bill! I'm grateful I found your videos 10 years ago, you introduced me to a a very challenging and satisfying hobby. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@russjkerr]

Thank you for all the videos over the years! I just saw LockPickingLawyer's video about your retirement and wanted to come over and say thank you for all the knowledge that you have shared. You and LockPickingLawyer really got me back into the sport of lock picking and have helped me get a lot better. I am sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. I am glad to hear that you have decided to take the time that you would otherwise be making videos to spend with family and friends because while we love your videos spending time with loved ones is more important. I just want to wish you a happy retirement and again thank you for the huge wealth of information you have shared with us all over the years.

[@fenral]

Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge us and enjoy your retirement

[@twjohnson1203]

Dangerfield Lock: "Left hand right hand, I tell ya I don't get no respect."

[@Rem694u2]

LMAO!

[@Foche_T._Schitt]

Different Dangerfield but he does do stand-up.

[@hxplrs]

The finishing of this is so on point!

[@ilaril]

I rather have it the way it is, since now I could learn picking the US and Euro locks on one.

[@h.Freeman]

I hope bill is ok

[@nosleep6829]

me too...i was thinking the same thing

[@EternalTina]

I'm a little worried. He usually give a heads up when he take a break. Hope it's nothing though...

[@LRC247]

Same here, I keep checking back. Hope all is well!

[@Rocketlockopener]

Anyone know what is going on with bill highly odd he hasn't posted anything,hope he is doing ok.

[@gezuppi]

@@Rocketlockopener Bill is taking care of children whose parent died from covid, there's a comment to which Bill replied, telling about his situation

[@TheSleepLes]

Nice learning lock. Nice to see that some people are still thinking before putting a product out.

[@VisualBasic6]

While it is sad to see you go, I'm glad it is for the right reasons. Enjoy your retirement, family and health. Meanwhile, I'll make sure to check in again here and there to keep your incredible 1900+ video knowledge base in the algorithm! Take care.

[@DennDeBill]

Thank you for all your videos and information!

[@brianpeyton6083]

Thank you for all the videos and information.

[@bradw0535]

Glad to hear you are ok Bill! And glad you are doing whats best for you and yours. We will all be here when you are ready to be back! Stay safe, stay legal.. and stay safe once more 🙏

[@NikolajChristensen]

Happy retirement. Thanks for the vids.

[@tonyfletcher2541]

As a left hander I could use one of those!!! Thanks for the info!

[@zaprowsdower3911]

Miss you bill hope everything is well

[@peterkelley6344]

Fun show and tell. Very valid observation for left and right handed persons.

[@AfroMyrdal]

Hey Bill, I would just like to say that if it wasn't for you I wouldn't have a hard addiction to picking locks. You thought me everything I know, what locks to look out for, what types of gremlins to hide from. Man. I hope life will treat you well, we all love you. May you pick well my dude. Cheers from Norway.

[@nicolesowers9224]

Bill glad to hear ya are well! My husband and I were beginning to worry. I hope your friend can recuperate and stay safe mate!! Nicole

[@bradw0535]

Nice setup from Dangerfield, and great review as always Bill!

[@SteveBrecht]

Hey Bill, in case you ever see this I wanted to wish you a happy retirement. You are singularly responsible for me entering the locksport hobby and I can't thank you enough for the hundreds, maybe thousands of hours of your videos I have learned from. Going to miss the voice and the jokes, hopefully you can pop up from time to time in a cameo elsewhere, or even here every 6 months or something. Will be like visiting an old friend. Wishing you the best and again a huge thank you.

[@billhenderson731]

As you say, a beautiful piece of work. A lot of work has gone into this, no complaints with any of the Dangerfield range. 👍

[@JonnyPBoyPP]

I like it a lot. Putting that on my wish list for sure

[@greg77hot]

Just bought one ... be here any day .

[@herbhunter5520]

I can't believe how much and how quickly I'm learning from your video's 🙂 bought the sparrows vorax set based on your recommendation. I like them

[@kareno8634]

I Really like to see Manufacture's Names on Products! Without them, all seem to Not be proud of their own work. Thanks!

[@lukejohnson2683]

Thank you for the wealth of knowledge you've given us, best wish in retirement!

[@novo1178]

Wow, very cool training lock. Great review and giveaway as always Bill!

[@sumduma55]

I kind of like the lock the way it is. Pin both sides the same or even reverse one side for added complexity and you can discover while seeing and practice what you just learned blind. This way you don't over rely on sight while learning. But you still have the option to peak if something isn't clicking just right. It is a practice lock so the goal should be practice more than a two for one special.

[@JRSofty]

Hey Bill! Just heard about your retirement from over at LPLs video and wanted to say I've enjoyed watching you and learning from you about lock picking. Probably the most important thing I've learned from watching your lock picking is to never give up, and to try different approaches if I can't get it open. Your decision to retire is completely understandable and well deserved. I hope you enjoy your time with your family. All the best for you and yours.

[@quintonbennett]

Great video and you can pick the LH side upside down RH and see the pins.

[@yossisalama7533]

Hey bill just wanted to tell you how u are the guy that got me into lock sporting. I know your gonna be doing other things and life always moves on and you need to as well, but ima miss your and all of your content. I hope your move finds you well and that good things happen to you on your new path. Stay safe stay legal. Much love brother

[@josephinedirt5926]

Amazing video man really informative, hope ya the best of lucks

[@kdawson020279]

That is impressive with the detail finish. Back in the day, everything was detail oriented if it mattered, and I have some tools here in my shop at work that have few modern equivalents that are affordable [anvil, vise, lathe, bending brake]. Machining has come a long way, but people forget about finishing, buffing, blasting, brushing, beading, peening, etc. Not only does it prevent blood loss, it makes things last longer since cracks form much easier in metal with sharp corners and where stress hasn't been relieved in more brittle metal. Plus, it just visually looks like you care. Not a skilled machinist, but my job largely exists to keep up with the failures of lowest bidder machinery.

[@Pickleriiiiiick]

Where's bill!?

[@BD90..]

Those are really pretty. I learnt to pick locks without training locks. But some people just can't get their head around what is happening so as a visual aid it helps. Personally I learnt by watching others and just try to pick. Starting with rakes. The learning to pick with a hook on cheap padlocks after taking them.

[@frankbiz]

Awesome machining, great for training. Thanks Bill! 👍🏻

[@thernganomoly4141]

So impressed with the dangerfeild lock and depreeply regret not getting it when I saw the chance (I thought over 50 bucks was a lot) thanks for video and ima get one and soon as I see one Thanks

[@overtlycriticaldork3524]

I bought one, its pretty amazing. 5 stars. Only thing Bill doesn't discuss is how picks tend to slip in the cutouts so you have to angle them just a bit differently. The key entryway cutout itself is very jagged, so I use Dangerfield TOK wrenches and Sparrows SSDeV .015 picks and getting into the normal spools pretty regularly.

[@markferguson3365]

I just got this lock delivered 2 days ago. I have attempted it 6 times, once I got an open. Not because I'm closing my eyes but it's not as smooth as it should be. I can get all the pins above the sheer line but th cylinder hangs up. Even with the key it does not turn as smoothly as it should. Ironically, it's only the right side, the side I can look at as I pick. The blind side moves smoothly!

[@1956willys4x4]

I really miss this guy's video's Hope you are doing well Bill.

[@timtaylor5883]

Great videos Bill thanks for making them.

[@curtishoffmann6956]

Right hand-left hand lock issue: Put a make-up mirror on the table, if you want to see the other side of the lock when it's flipped.

[@sarowie]

that is excellent - that way, the offside is harder to pick as you watch the pick by default, but you can still refocus your view to see what is holding you up.

[@mediaphile]

Came here to say this. The design is a great compromise.

[@garyanvil2354]

That really is a Beautiful training lock I'm an experienced picker an even I wouldn't mind having that lock to practice with....

[@brianfackrell4139]

I have one hook and four rakes, if that doesn't work then I'm stuck. Time to get this lock and some more hooks to play with.

[@gkeyman565]

Hope your surviving, kids and all. Take all the time in the world, Family and Friends first !!!! And yourself of coarse!!! Hope your all having a great day !!!

[@FusionDeveloper]

I wonder how the precision is on this brand. I've bought many cheap cutaways locks and they all suck. I often rake them open on accident. The cutaway on this video looks like a work of art. I hope its core is good enough to be worth the work put into them.

[@gozzendk]

Thanks for the video. Pretty lock 🔑🔒👍

[@jasonlepage7915]

Great looking lock , some of my clear plastic locks are getting easy for me to pick , , but i am still not very good on real locks .

[@lmars5933]

Best REVIEW Bill on ytube ..thanks for sharing buddy. I like shinny locks .😎

[@sjent]

But if it closed when you turn the lock, it makes that other side good for practicing blind, without "let me have just a little peek". Making it ambidextrous, as it works the same for lefties and righties.

[@honklerton732]

I also like how it won't cut your hands up - very nice. I would probably also just use one side of it mostly as well (since I too am right handed).

[@rationalbushcraft]

I hope everything is okay Bill. We haven’t heard from you in a week.

[@Phred_Phlintstoner]

@@eralehm I thought he was back from that already. He left that community post a while ago now...

[@rationalbushcraft]

I’m not going to speculate and it is none of my business. The only thing that has me concerned is normally he gives a brief reason why he is not going to be around and this time there was nothing.

[@Phred_Phlintstoner]

@@eralehm but he is ok? He didnt let the community at large know anything but the previous post from a month plus ago. We are all a little bit worried about him that's all...

[@roysammons2445]

It's a beautiful quality practice lock. Would have been nice to see some more pins chucked in a slightly larger pin box. In comparison to the one's (rim cylinders) Bill offers that has LOADS of pins. That's my only gripe with a very high quality practice lock.

[@kenforward53]

I have one of these; the heft and finish is every bit as beautiful as Bill says. One word of caution to new pickers though: this lock has a far more paracentric keyway than what you're likely used to. Don't get me wrong, it's an absolutely beautiful training lock that will benefit everyone at the right point in their journey. Just maybe the wrong first cutaway for those who've only recently raked open their first MasterLock 3 :)

[@XxShantilisxX]

That's a great training set-up.

[@busterboy7505]

Great video Buddy, 👍🇬🇧🇺🇸🔒.

[@pyratemage]

If I were to purchase one, and if I were the personality type to name my practice locks, I would be compelled to name mine Rodney. :-)

[@johnvaluk1401]

As John asked about impressioning a key. Do you think the lock would hold up to the pressures of the sideways twisting??

[@parapicktog7734]

Forget where I got it, but.... I have a brass training lock similar to that. Mine has the cutouts on opposite sides for the opposite ends. Unfortunately I didn't notice it was left handed (I'm right handed) until it arrived. But all the same, it was a great learning tool for me to LOOK and FEEL so I could teach myself what different pins or positions of them feels like. A right hander can use a left handed training lock by picking it upside down, but I don't recommend that while learning because it feels way different when you pick down instead of up.

[@Phred_Phlintstoner]

No videos for a week? I hope you are ok Bill!

[@rardasnow3012]

yea I was wondering the same thing

[@nobodynone]

Still no video? This is strange.

[@goptools]

Hi Bill, The link for the weekend give away seems to be going to last week's give away page. Thanks! -mike

[@bosnianbill]

Sorry about that. Fixed.

[@timtaylor5883]

Hey Bill, I look at least two or three times a day to see if you've posted recently and nothing yet. I hope all is well. In my mind you're on a nice sunny vacation somewhere. Stay safe! Stay legal!

[@WalterFrancis]

Same, almost always a video a day, nothing for weeks. :/ Hope he's okay.

[@John-jr4dj]

Sort comments by newest first and check Bill's reply to Joe Rogan.

[@Corn0nTheCobb]

@@John-jr4dj thank you for pointing that out!

[@DonzLockz]

Finally a good quality cutaway lock.👍😎

[@RoeLunatic4ever]

Wow, this one looks very nice!

[@benjaminfinlay829]

Right handed people can also use the left side to train picking a lock that's upside down.

[@ImGumbyDangit]

Fantastic video. This looks like a great training tool. $60 bucks American seems fair.

[@wombleway]

That lock is good for a left-hander - I'd just use the other end of the lock (the end you were holding onto). That way, my pick is in my left hand and my right hand holds the lock body with the open ended side facing me.

[@angst_]

You could try picking the lefty side upside down. not ideal, but might be practical practice for real-world locks in odd orientations.

[@coladict]

The fact that it comes with the tweezers makes it a better value offer than LearnLockPicking's Ultimate Practice locks. They come with a lot more spare pins, but you have to buy your tweezers separately if they're even in stock. Regular tweezers just can't keep the pins from rotating in random directions.

[@elivaughan1192]

That is a nice training lock.

[@PhotogNT]

I have that exact lock, different box marked as Multipick

[@thumperlockpicking9269]

GREAT Review Mr.Bill, ì would love to have the cut out on both sides. Maybe with our comments Dangerfield will change to both sides cut out.

[@Прохожий-ы8к]

Hi Bill. Very interesting and nice lock in your video. Something special )! I want one like that lock 🔐. I have very many brands made like your lock but not beautiful like your )))! Maybe every nice of that lock just nice i don't know. But i want to have it .

[@michaelrottenfusser3274]

Could having a side that's harder to see also be a useful training aid?

[@kantemirovskaya1lightninga30]

I DO hope that your just on vacation Bill! We miss you out here...

[@John-jr4dj]

Sort comments by newest first and check Bill's reply to Joe Rogan a little ways down.

[@kantemirovskaya1lightninga30]

Thanks!

[@jbombrobertson4765]

I'd love one.

[@kellenwright2388]

Hey 👋 I was thinking that if you pin the two keyways the same, one would be skeletonized so you can see inside the lock while picking learning how the pins give feedback, but turn it around and you have the same keyway but blind to practice on. It's skeletonized all on same side so you can do this left or right handed. Sounds good to me... What do you think?

[@CrankyPantsUK]

Looks nice, like the open training locks..wonder if it will sharpen knives too?

[@dokterzorro]

My first thought being a lefhander was exactly that. But then I thought it was perfect this way, you can have it all ways round, both left and righthanders are equally challenged with this one. You could pick it euro or american style, blind or looking at the pins, it's a universal trainer in that respect. Not sure about the finish though, too rounded for my cnc taste. I'd prefer a more straight and slightly 45 deg bevelled edge. When it's too rounded they're hidin' something is what my old boss would say.

[@umbralveritas]

I just thought that, looking on the bright side, the fact you can't see it when you use the other side, you could use that side to train without peeking?

[@FrankKastelijn]

Nice lock

[@ivanrybkin9384]

can you work upsidedown, or there are specific limitation with gravity on particular catch pins?

[@rahulgkhs]

Excellent

[@maus9777]

that looks way better then some acrylic training or cheap cutaway locks

[@AlbertLebel]

Bill, you have MUCH more experience picking locks than I do, so let me ask this. Would you agree that while these cutaway locks are a great visual tool for those that don't know how a lock works, don't they change the lock and how the pins would feel if the cylinder pin chambers were not cut away ? In my opinion, pins will not act the same in these.

[@SilktheAbsent1]

I agree. In my experience, cutaways pick easier, even with challenge pins.

[@AlbertLebel]

@@SilktheAbsent1 Yes, with much of the pin chamber missing it's almost silly. Other than a visual tool their just not good for practice