1917 Centennial Series: War, Revolution, Socialism, War. Stephen Kotkin

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Mary and Peter R. Dallman 1951 Great Issues Lecture
War, Revolution, Socialism, War: How do the events of 1917 and thereafter help us understand the world of today, and perhaps of tomorrow?
1917 Centennial Series: Stephen Kotkin, Princeton University
Revolution in the Russian empire took place 100 years ago, during the First World War. It brought widespread hopes for a new world. During the course of that year, the revolutionary process in Russia radicalized toward socialism, in part because the horrific war did not end. Socialism was supposed to bring an end to such wars. Socialism in power and the perceived threats of its spread reinforced a trend toward a radicalization of the right, the advent of fascism. Within a generation, another titanic war broke out, even worse than the first one. How do these events of 1917 and thereafter help us understand the world of today, and perhaps of tomorrow?
Sponsors: The John Sloan Dickey Center for International Understanding, The Leslie Center for the Humanities, The Political Economy Project, The Department of Government, The Department of Russian, The Department of History, and The Department of Film and Media Studies.
Recorded September 18, 2017

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@Ronbo710
@Ronbo710 4 жыл бұрын
7:34 for Prof. Kotkin
@christopherrobbins9985
@christopherrobbins9985 Жыл бұрын
I can listen to Stephen Kotkin, Victor Davis Hansen and John Mearsheimer talk endlessly about WW2. Kotkin shines here especially in the Q&A.
@Doodloper
@Doodloper 6 ай бұрын
How about Margaret Thatcher?
@paulrevere2379
@paulrevere2379 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant how he sets up the bookends of pre-1917 and post WWII before presenting the heart of his lecture.
@TheDavidlloydjones
@TheDavidlloydjones Жыл бұрын
Tiresome introduction peters out by 7:30. The excellent Kotkin starts at 7:35. Props to the cameraman, who keeps wandering Kotkin in focus all the way through, and to the sound man, who has managed to mike the speaker correctly to avoid the echoes of those hard walls and boards.
@ariyelschoemaker1564
@ariyelschoemaker1564 11 ай бұрын
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@ariyelschoemaker1564 11 ай бұрын
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@josephanderson7237
@josephanderson7237 4 жыл бұрын
“You think I’m funny. I make you laugh. Do you think I’m a clown” haha
@john1425
@john1425 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is Joe Pesci's smarter brother.
@ericstapleton9577
@ericstapleton9577 3 жыл бұрын
@@ernstthalmann4306 even on 70 mg of vyvanse Joe pesci wouldn't give a fuck about geopolitics
@randallpmcmurphy7501
@randallpmcmurphy7501 2 жыл бұрын
Now go home and get your ****ing shine box.
@brightonduder
@brightonduder 4 жыл бұрын
Just watched this for the 1st (buy defo not the last) time Kotkin is a master communicator - so on top of his facts and evidence. Brilliant
@Littlemanloki
@Littlemanloki 2 жыл бұрын
His conversations on Uncommon Knowledge at the Hoover Institute are quite enlightening as well, I highly recommend them! Cheers, and have a good day :)
@nancylana5306
@nancylana5306 Жыл бұрын
I feel so fortunate to have stumbled upon Dr, Kotkins lectures.I find his subjects and presentations fascinating. Thank you so much for sharing Your life’s work with us.Brilliant.
@briteness
@briteness 4 жыл бұрын
Kotkin is first-rate. He has deep knowledge of his subjects, coupled with a fine ability to communicate to the general public. Thanks to him and to all who sponsored this talk, and to Dartmouth for sharing it here.
@SleekMinister
@SleekMinister 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, right
@sandozpop6017
@sandozpop6017 3 жыл бұрын
1917 Centennial Series: War, Revolution, Socialism, Jews, Anarhism, Communism, Civil Wars
@MrSp0iler
@MrSp0iler 3 жыл бұрын
what this prick says is that wars are good we get rid of useless people this way and we are on it
@kennethberg3625
@kennethberg3625 3 жыл бұрын
H w we’re in fe we
@jakebarnes28
@jakebarnes28 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSp0iler no, it isn't. Thanks for playing.
@jjforcebreaker
@jjforcebreaker 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic lecture, like all of his work. Thanks for uploading!
@evardsone
@evardsone 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely astonishing! Love his lectures.
@Doodloper
@Doodloper 6 ай бұрын
Why?
@josefadams647
@josefadams647 Жыл бұрын
I could listen to Stephen all day. He’s a national treasure
@Doodloper
@Doodloper 6 ай бұрын
Why?
@CarliMichelle
@CarliMichelle Ай бұрын
Currently am^^
@piushalg8175
@piushalg8175 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting lecture, very comprehensive as well. A little note: Just before WWI more than half of the published scientific papers in the world were first published in german. That means that Germany was a scientific superpower at that time.
@roc7880
@roc7880 3 жыл бұрын
after the war the same papers were written by same scientists in English although
@clifffff7630
@clifffff7630 3 жыл бұрын
Since when language of scientific output determines the extent of scientific development in a given nation state??? On the basis of your logic, right now the UK woukd be the absolute scientific superpower just because currently, the overwhelming majority of research papers are published in English... We all now that this is not the case...
@piushalg8175
@piushalg8175 3 жыл бұрын
@@clifffff7630 At the time I was referring to scientists produced their papers in their native language. This isn't the case any more. Nowadays English is the common scientific language, at least in natural sciencies.
@jakebarnes28
@jakebarnes28 3 жыл бұрын
No one is questioning the scientific prowess of Germany.
@kreek22
@kreek22 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but there was some contribution from Swiss and Austrian scientists. You occasionally had cases like von Neumann, a Hungarian Jew who published some papers in German. Like America today, some German universities were good enough to attract the best foreign talent as students and professors.
@rogerwilliams4466
@rogerwilliams4466 3 жыл бұрын
I loved him in Good Fellas
@JohnBedson
@JohnBedson 4 жыл бұрын
Start at 7:30 to avoid the tedious introductions. Otherwise brilliant.
@tikimurtaugh4919
@tikimurtaugh4919 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@abhishekmhatre1554
@abhishekmhatre1554 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@nemsimicho4
@nemsimicho4 3 жыл бұрын
You the real mvp
@Johnconno
@Johnconno 3 жыл бұрын
@@abhishekmhatre1554 Thanks a lot. Take care, you've been great.
@tylerchristensen1484
@tylerchristensen1484 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DwRockett
@DwRockett 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great speaker and such a great lecture
@Doodloper
@Doodloper 6 ай бұрын
Genius lecture by the legendary Prof Dr. Stephen "I go all-in" Kotkin
@Mr196710
@Mr196710 3 жыл бұрын
At 18:19 he almost says elites but says leaders are the ones who saw that their were gains to be made from war. He knows more than he reveals.
@Sk8ordiE151
@Sk8ordiE151 3 жыл бұрын
Good catch
@mizroba.3238
@mizroba.3238 2 жыл бұрын
dude demolished the sleepwalking thesis and the schlieffen plan in under 5 mins.
@richardturner9317
@richardturner9317 3 жыл бұрын
Kotkin is correct in that the 'Schlieffen Plan' was a name given after the Great War to the 'generic' German war plans which promoted a holding action against a Russian front while the main German Armies defeated France through invasions of the neutral 'low countries' of Belgium / Holland. After which there full attention could be given to the defeat of Russia. The aggressive German military leadership under the Prussians also saw the need to have a war with the Russians before 1917 when their military redevelopment and improved railway infrastructure would have the situation difficult to implement any form of warfare not involving fighting simultaneous equally committed forces on battlefronts against France & Russia.
@alicemccain585
@alicemccain585 3 жыл бұрын
I graduated from University of Maryland with a Master's in Public Policy/ Public Affairs.....Oh how I wish I could have studied under you!!! Love your talk today!!!
@frederickratel4231
@frederickratel4231 2 жыл бұрын
This is an outstanding lecture.
@sacredsoma
@sacredsoma 6 жыл бұрын
Kotkin is brilliant, such warmth in his style of lecturing, really holds your attention, thank you
@Chazer45
@Chazer45 5 жыл бұрын
He really is, it's fantastic that this is offered as free content.
@Dubinski2382
@Dubinski2382 5 жыл бұрын
I love the way he is able to clearly set forth what happened and then weave in his educated guess at the causation, thinking, motivations behind what transpired. He somehow gives us the most interesting thing about the past - - the decisions, options and potential outcomes that existed at the time. Just fantastic and so easy to relate and apply to present and future decisions.
@craigjones2050
@craigjones2050 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@paulk.dicostanzo2279
@paulk.dicostanzo2279 4 жыл бұрын
Kotkin is as good as it gets. Original, thought provoking, and he remains very New York. Nothing like thumbing through Vol. 2 for the first time, and seeing part III titled “Three-Card Monte.”
@mikhailalexandrovichrimsky5501
@mikhailalexandrovichrimsky5501 3 жыл бұрын
Privet my Western Partners. I agree, Professor Kotkin is brilliant as usual and obviously dissected mosr aspects of the 20th Century Structures that were created to lead to inevitable... 55 million deaths! He made you understand how all key players fits like puzzle unable to prevent such number of deaths. But, as KGB (FSB) Agent, nations don't just decide to start International War because one Royalty is assassinated! There are those people that our good Professor never mentioned... those who owns Earth, whose citizenship has no borders. These people knows World Cycles {for ages already, go research) so they understand when world reach War Cycle, Finacial Crisis Cycle, and... When there are too many mouths to feed for current global economy to sustain, the planet needs to be Purged of many people back to sustainable level. WHO chooses that Earth has goo many people? God? Maybe, there are massive apocalyptic events that take many lives (think of Tsunami, Massive Earthquake or Volcanoes). But, then I also think of those Top People! God did not erect "Georgia Guide Stones" stating that Earth needs to be reduced by Billions of People! Could it be that Russian Empire wat first in line because we published a book and distributed it Worldwide to warm all nations of certain group who wish to take over the world, only to be discredited as "Conspiracy Theory" by Oxford... and now (last decade) we see it was true and that US is actually Subverted and controlled by other nation(s) and Corporations that can even dictate POTUS orders! Is Covid-19 perhaps Global Mass Graves and blamed on Virus instead of some enemy (that would already have started War), but pay hospitals money to lie on death certificates as Covid death. Now, without active World War, nations can purge hundreds of thousands of people stealthy, bring Global Population down (perhaps even with other "weapon" - Vaccines!), and the Virus did it. My Father made this claim... "If I died, I want to come back as Killer Virus!" Да! Sick are their minds who start wars and even self-righteously ends it. Two A-Bombs on already defeated Japan was message to ua (USSR) and we answered with Tsar Bomba! THAT cept THOSE Top People at bay... until 2020! The US is Stampede, ready to once more have Civil War... by WHO? The Dems... REALLY? TRUE! Those wars happened, but ask yourself WHY? WHO benefit from it? WW2 created Top Elites One World Order without Russia, thanks to our Bear's persistence that we believe in Multi-Polar World. С уважением Commander Mikhail Rimsky-Korsakov (FSB [KGB] : Research, Information & Internet - Social Media)
@dechaariyaratana2340
@dechaariyaratana2340 2 жыл бұрын
Learn a lot more from this lecture, thanks
@travisfitzwater8093
@travisfitzwater8093 3 жыл бұрын
Great lecture. I'd rename it "The Past is Prologue.'
@soy_tippi
@soy_tippi 3 жыл бұрын
What does "to garrison china" mean?? at 1:12:03
@lieshtmeiser5542
@lieshtmeiser5542 2 жыл бұрын
"What does "to garrison china" mean??" It was simply a comment about Manchuria being such a large land area, with a large population, and that then required Japan to garrison large numbers of troops there, with all the associated logistics.
@CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY
@CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing he can rattle on without notes at a podium. My memory would fail.
@SmartWentCrazy.
@SmartWentCrazy. 4 жыл бұрын
That introduction was wonderfully concise and far more impactful than the typical googlography that was alluded to. Nicely said!
@bartroberts3634
@bartroberts3634 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Teacher!If I get the chance would like to Read any books he's put out!
@AutoSanchezMusic
@AutoSanchezMusic 2 жыл бұрын
He has a series about stalin
@4455matthew
@4455matthew 6 жыл бұрын
Such a brilliant man, and I love his use of, chiliastic.
@dimitriosfromgreece4227
@dimitriosfromgreece4227 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video LOVE FROM SWEDEN ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@maryspencer4274
@maryspencer4274 2 ай бұрын
Today in early 2024 is this talk prescient to now? I can substitute names and not many countries replacing today's settings. Could we really learn from this gem, Prof Kotkin, this time.
@An-Islander
@An-Islander 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the best Kotkin lecture I've heard to date with plenty new facts. But the one fact that shocked me most is this: in his 30 plus years in power, there was not one genuine assassination attempt on Stalin.
@roc7880
@roc7880 3 жыл бұрын
hmmmm maybe they failed.
@clifffff7630
@clifffff7630 3 жыл бұрын
There is some evidence that there was in fact one assassination attempt, and a very successful one too. According to Radzinski and a few other Soviet historians, Beria successfully poisoned Stalin and even took credit for it during a politiebureau meeting soon after Stalin's death. This claim on Beria's role in the death is Stalin is plausible given that Beria was for years in charge of running Soviet chemical weapons & poison R&D efforts, ran the KGB and was considered by many in Soviet Union and even in the west as heir to Stalin.
@bleacherz7503
@bleacherz7503 3 жыл бұрын
You would have to trust your colleagues to carry out an assassination.
@bleacherz7503
@bleacherz7503 3 жыл бұрын
The quest is sincere, the injustices are real but the solutions are considerably worse - sounds more and more like the US.
@An-Islander
@An-Islander 3 жыл бұрын
@Min Tin true that, sort of like preemptive self-defense.
@CandidDate
@CandidDate 3 жыл бұрын
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." --- George Santayana . Oh, like thinking you'll raise a better family than the one you grew up in?
@JD-qf8ul
@JD-qf8ul 3 жыл бұрын
It’s all so complicated and dynamic it doesn’t even really matter if you knew everything about history lol
@sinjimsmythe9577
@sinjimsmythe9577 3 жыл бұрын
Edmund Burke mate. Santayana sort of ironically repeated it, so to speak, a couple hundred years later or so
@CandidDate
@CandidDate 3 жыл бұрын
@@sinjimsmythe9577 Oh, that's right. I forgot.
@AmersOnlyGiglinFMRWHCh
@AmersOnlyGiglinFMRWHCh 2 жыл бұрын
Please see description area too please. For Gary Smollett Case | I don't have to say anything about Jodi Foster - KZbin
@chaosdwarf406
@chaosdwarf406 4 жыл бұрын
Where can we learn more about the British plan to destroy the German economy during the First World War? The one which was replaced by the blockade following American resistance? Any name to search by? Any books or articles to share?
@andreaspinsker
@andreaspinsker 4 жыл бұрын
Lambert, N (2012), Planning Armageddon: British economic warfare and the First World War, Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press.
@rostikskobkariov5136
@rostikskobkariov5136 3 жыл бұрын
7:31 Start
@ethanedwards420
@ethanedwards420 4 жыл бұрын
16:35 on the 'Sleepwalker Thesis'
@jackiwannapaint3042
@jackiwannapaint3042 Жыл бұрын
I am reminded of Cormac McCarthy who said: Dont ask why war? Might as well ask: why stone? War was always here. Before man was war--the ultimate practice awaiting the ultimate practitioner.
@jengleheimerschmitt7941
@jengleheimerschmitt7941 2 жыл бұрын
7:50 is when the other guy stops blathering and Kotkin begins.
@RhysWilliamsX
@RhysWilliamsX 4 жыл бұрын
Start: 7:30
@blakemcneal7408
@blakemcneal7408 3 жыл бұрын
Who would have thought Joe Pesci knew so much about Geo Political Economic History
@RollandGarros02
@RollandGarros02 Жыл бұрын
Ha....the slimmer version of Pesci...😅
@treymak
@treymak 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome lecture. Also, omg the constant coughing in the crowd😖😖 I have covid ptsd.
@1969cmp
@1969cmp 3 жыл бұрын
.....19th and 20th century history is immensely interesting.
@bleacherz7503
@bleacherz7503 3 жыл бұрын
What a scholar !
@1969cmp
@1969cmp 3 жыл бұрын
11:50 ....a correction. The northern states of The Union of the US were more wealthy than the 11 southern states that were to make up the CSA upon the outbreak of the US Civil War.....a minor detail in the context of this lecture.
@deeh6457
@deeh6457 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!! Thanks for this lecture!
@john1425
@john1425 4 жыл бұрын
Might want to have the video image as Stephen instead of whoever the guy is that is on there now. I almost skipped past this b/c I didn't think it was Kotkin speaking.
@davidtrindle6473
@davidtrindle6473 3 жыл бұрын
They always do this. One administrative type guy introduces a second administrative type guy who introduces Stephen Kotkin to finally get a chance to talk.It’s a joke. If those administrative types had any level of self-awareness they’d be embarrassed,
@carlyellison8498
@carlyellison8498 3 жыл бұрын
Pfff, all old white males look alike.
@chickenfishhybrid44
@chickenfishhybrid44 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlyellison8498 do old black males?
@be12
@be12 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlyellison8498 This is getting old
@MrTylerStricker
@MrTylerStricker Жыл бұрын
Dr. Kotkin needs to either run for president or finish volume three of his Stalin trilogy!
@travisfitzwater8093
@travisfitzwater8093 3 жыл бұрын
Professor Compton of Princeton is my favorite prof.
@henkschmitz6768
@henkschmitz6768 Жыл бұрын
Truly educational! I am learning a lot here...
@samson136
@samson136 4 жыл бұрын
Could someone send me the link on the british sanctions on germany pre ww1
@jeffersonwright9275
@jeffersonwright9275 2 жыл бұрын
I like how he finishes up using the analogy of a house of cards to talk about China. He’s not saying they are, he asks if they are, ie if Chinese institutions are not as flexible and reliable as the West’s, what should we do about it?
@DeuteriumLicious
@DeuteriumLicious 3 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating lecture, I wish there was more like this!
@petereiso5415
@petereiso5415 3 жыл бұрын
what does 1o1 mean?
@nicks3350
@nicks3350 3 жыл бұрын
It means basic/beginners lessons. I.e driving 101 could be “don’t crash.”
@Cronoviajero
@Cronoviajero 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant man.
@bleacherz7503
@bleacherz7503 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Kotkin would answer the last question differently today ?
@ulovil
@ulovil 3 жыл бұрын
1:24:50 I live in Russia and can you imagine that I've had cableTV there since 1988. I believe it is not the last reason of USSR falling....
@lucaschneider1613
@lucaschneider1613 3 жыл бұрын
? What do you mean. I think he was more talking about the 24 hour news cycle.
@ulovil
@ulovil 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucaschneider1613 oh yeah, now I see. My Soviet cable TV experience is completely the opposite, it's about everything that is NOT official news and politics: only movies, music, and adult content :) But still: I believe it could directly affect to the USSR life :)
@1969cmp
@1969cmp 3 жыл бұрын
@@ulovil ....that, and the Soviet system was terrible.
@sorsocksfake
@sorsocksfake 5 жыл бұрын
Great lecture. I do have to question the "Hitler was insane" view. As far as I understand it, while he definitely gambled and had high ambitions, the gambles do seem reasonable. As far as I can tell, Hitler's main plan was reuniting Germany (undoing versailles) and then taking over the USSR; then to establish autarky and ethnic purity. In 1939, he demands Danzig. If Poland accepts: good chance it implodes and we repeat Czechoslovakia, thus completing the first stage. If it doesn't implode now, Stalin may push that button anyway, again completing stage 1. If Poland refuses, the allies may allow forced annexation. Especially since Poland itself had done so against Lithaunia and Czechoslovakia. This wouldn't last long, again, completing stage 1. It is possible France does go to war, but Britain doesn't. Manageable; Germany can beat France, and Alsace-Lorraine could be a fine prize. Britain also declaring war, is a worst case scenario. We believe it normal because we have hindsight. I don't think that's the fair calculation of odds. Even after that not all is lost: it's the WW1 '17 matchup, and this time Germany is vastly better prepared. Plus, Italy may open a second front. This isn't ideal, but Hitler has cards to play and can fairly believe he can win this (as he does). What messes it all up is that after France is knocked out, somehow Britain insists on continuing the war. Britain forces France into 5 years of occupation, massive destruction, and sacrifices its entire future (plus the direct costs of war), to continue a war for the sake of it. Again we take this for granted, but this seems anomalous. Had Britain signed peace, Hitler could have properly built up against the USSR, invaded early '42, and likely won that war. ===== Yes, he believed ultimately there'd be war against Britain. But that's long term.
@PotentialHistory
@PotentialHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Britain was not going to take any peace deal because Hitler kept going back on his promises. He said the Rhineland was enough, then he said Czechoslovakia, on and on to invading Poland (which I really doubt their ever peacefully giving up their autonomy for how hard they fought for it) and by that point when Hitler says that's all he wants and asks for peace the British, rightly so, don't accept it because he has lied so many times and then proves them right with the invasion of France. The Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe could not support a successful Invasion of Great Britain (See Operation Sea lion) and that's how we get our situation. Hitler went into the USSR in 41 because due to being at war with all trade partners and years of a closed economy beforehand, Germany was not going to have the raw materials it needed to support a Barbarossa sized invasion if he waited mostly due to oil shortages. Even with the oil received in trade with the USSR, If he waited a year Germany would be short just from normal consumption (see Toprani in his book The First War For Oil) so there was no waiting for a "Better invasion". Even if you had more time, Germany in one year could not in any meaningful way close the gap with the USSR in industrial capability and population. An invasion in 42 in a less successful Barbarossa where the tanks run out of fuel sooner. Britain was not going to allow a Militaristic Germany after sacrificing so much to stop it in WW1 and letting it be so would be letting it all be a waste and this first shows itself as appeasement, trying to avoid another war, but as soon as it is clear Hitler cannot be appeased and he will always go back on his word as to how much territory is enough, they prepare for war knowing Hitler will not stop short of starting it, he crosses the red line while invading Poland and I see no scenario where Britain just sits it out, takes a back seat on the world stage by choice after hundreds of years of guiding it. Hitler decided he wanted to start a war that within 2 years would involve him fighting the 3 largest economies on earth with his, in comparison, small country of Germany with just a handful of allies he did not work closely or coordinate with. To give Germany a victory you have to have him make all the right choices and the Allies make all the wrong ones in a storybook esque theory with one assertion built on another and another and so on to where it just becomes fan-fiction. In the realms of actual reality, it is not possible for Hitler to win WW2.
@dougstevens1877
@dougstevens1877 3 жыл бұрын
@@PotentialHistory You are parroting Hollywood derived history. Britain had a defense pact with Poland (quickly fixed) and then German nationals in Danzig were terrorised and exterminated in masses.. figures of 58 000 killed and tortured. Hitler made speeches about these atrocities beseeching the international community to act against this terrorism. This turned eventually into the actual reason why Germany "invaded Poland". Germany was deliberately forced to rush to the aid of their own people who were left exposed by the spitefully malicious Versailles gang rape of Germany. Prof Plotkin is truly misrepresenting Hitler's mind set and ambitions ...unfortunately! If Hitler did have ambitions to over power Britain he would definitely not have personally given orders to let such a large contingent of British military be evacuated from Dunkirk. David Irving remains one of the most honest and authentic historians in regard to Adolf Hitler.
@zekleinhammer
@zekleinhammer 3 жыл бұрын
“Establish...ethnic purity” this is the insane part imo. And his desire to do this eliminated any chance of winning the war
@jakebarnes28
@jakebarnes28 3 жыл бұрын
Soros lives in your head rent-free.
@lieshtmeiser5542
@lieshtmeiser5542 2 жыл бұрын
@@dougstevens1877 "German nationals in Danzig were terrorised and exterminated in masses.. figures of 58 000 killed and tortured. " Complete wank. Presumably youre referring to 'bloody sunday', and the Poles definitely came out of it worse than the ethnic germans and nazis.
@hakayma7560
@hakayma7560 3 жыл бұрын
1:16:00 'a lot of people were prepared for war,...because of strategic calculus that war could deliver gains' - -what gains from war we got?
@PresidentialWinner
@PresidentialWinner 3 жыл бұрын
What gains could winning a war get you? Territory, resources, prestige, power etc. A larger nation, a more powerful, more abundant empire with better technology and a larger share of the world.
@jmwSeattle
@jmwSeattle 3 жыл бұрын
It’s too bad there wasn’t a Roman like Luke there to document the glorious beginning: “Inasmuch as many have taken in hand to set in order a narrative of those things which have been fulfilled among us, just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, that you may know the certainty of those things in which you were instructed.”
@shaunlanighan813
@shaunlanighan813 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of WWII Stalin said 'There's nothing like War for the proletarianisation of a population '
@jakebarnes28
@jakebarnes28 3 жыл бұрын
Citation?
@ianfleischhacker6154
@ianfleischhacker6154 3 жыл бұрын
Sleep-walking into war -this, at least to me, seems more of a reference to how a collective society just kind of goes along with things due to habitual apathy. It's not like young mothers and steel factory workers were issuing orders to prepare for war.
@DerDop
@DerDop 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you need war, see Nagorno-Karabakh. If you are Armenia will you let your own people to be massacred?
@ericstapleton9577
@ericstapleton9577 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerDop poor Armenia fought a war on 2 fronts
@ericstapleton9577
@ericstapleton9577 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerDop SOAD is still my favorite band
@ShahjahanMasood
@ShahjahanMasood 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericstapleton9577 they got their ass handed to them
@rovertdluag6648
@rovertdluag6648 4 жыл бұрын
What was worse Germany or Russia ? Which country was responsible for the most civilian death ?
@inbuckswetrust7357
@inbuckswetrust7357 3 жыл бұрын
USA & GB
@FreeTurtleboy
@FreeTurtleboy 4 жыл бұрын
I know you don't believe me...... Then he challenged them. A true teacher Enjoyed the honesty. 101 yrs ago today the War Ended? For who ?
@thetaqjr
@thetaqjr Жыл бұрын
I suggest there are other men and women of similar talents whom we would love to hear but will never know about. It is such a thin slice. I’d like an introduction to some of them.
@brownlettuce1810
@brownlettuce1810 3 жыл бұрын
Fix the volume. Half of what he says is inaudible. Otherwise interesting.
@acommon1
@acommon1 2 ай бұрын
S Kotkin is a FAV!!!
@tannerhagen774
@tannerhagen774 Жыл бұрын
Just read the The Schlieffen Plan, it’s fairly straightforward that Germans went ahead with the plan it was just edited, such as not going into Netherlands expecting a possible British blockade.
@monikagrosch9632
@monikagrosch9632 Жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget: the Russian word for peace ‘mir’ can also be translated as ‘ the world’ !
@jakebarnes28
@jakebarnes28 3 жыл бұрын
Every war plants the seeds for the next. War requires taxation. James Madison.
@nathanmoore101
@nathanmoore101 3 жыл бұрын
Such in depth analysis yet the balfour declaration is not mentioned as a contributing factor in geopolitical motivations. I wonder why? It's not like he's not aware of it.
@efanshel
@efanshel 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if anyone in our government consults with him...or even has people keeping abreast of his scholarship...
@danscalia7427
@danscalia7427 3 жыл бұрын
I love Kotkin- but I am not sure it’s accurate for him to state at roughly 53 minutes that Hitler sought to end/destroy the British Empire.
@roc7880
@roc7880 3 жыл бұрын
yes he did in order to take over it. His mistake was attacking Soviet Union before finishing Britain off. He had a window of invading England between 40 and 41 but he did not have guts to do it. I think that attacking Soviet Union was a terrible mistake still
@clifffff7630
@clifffff7630 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Kotkin and the main stream historical view point which he espouses are wrong and you are right. Hitler neither intended nor acted to destroy the British empire and absorb its dominion. He was merely lashing out because his toothbtush moustache did not really catch on amongst the gentlemen in the Isles...
@ishmaelforester9825
@ishmaelforester9825 3 жыл бұрын
Ostensibly Hitler had no designs on the Empire but do you think he approved of its liberal trajectory?
@ishmaelforester9825
@ishmaelforester9825 3 жыл бұрын
Britain is a liberal society and was always going to dissolve it's colonial empire. Hitler was ready to deal with the arch imperialists but not the general current of British society which was always moving toward liberating the Empire.
@ishmaelforester9825
@ishmaelforester9825 3 жыл бұрын
Churchill saido, 'an appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' The British misjudged and underestimated Hitler and the nazis and there traditional policy toward Europe basically went up in smoke.
@butchfriday
@butchfriday 5 ай бұрын
That was excellent!
@TheWhitehiker
@TheWhitehiker 2 жыл бұрын
starts at 7:35.
@jackbov123
@jackbov123 5 ай бұрын
What Prof. Kotkin misses is the importance of the inability of the Japanese governments to adjust the size of voting districts so that all voting districts have similar voting numbers.
@paulrevere2379
@paulrevere2379 3 жыл бұрын
Vincent Gambini's intellectually giant cousin. I think Fred Gwynn would even approve, even without a necktie.
@shanemeyer7989
@shanemeyer7989 4 жыл бұрын
Here for the Joe Pesci comments!
@alcoholfree6381
@alcoholfree6381 Жыл бұрын
I was born 1953 and grew up in an idyllic time in a small Oregon town. My dad brought home a black and white TV when I was 13, we had three channels to watch. Professor Kotkin states near the end of his talk that cable TV has changed the World and I agree 100%! He also said the some people willingly watched CNN, the worst news service in the World!
@RollandGarros02
@RollandGarros02 Жыл бұрын
CNN = Communist News Network ......Indeed
@DiviAugusti
@DiviAugusti 3 жыл бұрын
This guy always uses the first two minutes to work on his standup routine.
@llywelynyllevyn1176
@llywelynyllevyn1176 5 ай бұрын
Another fine lecture from the Dickey center at Dartmouth. Well that's an interesting combination of words from the highly educated scholars. Kotkit like what, tiktok, I think tiktok has some dartmouths. These series are addictive, like a kottik. What better place to discuss war and March madness than Dartmouth. The March to madness with Marx and basket balls and baskets of artillery shells during the great War. In Flanders fields the poppies grow, the Enfields pop with sunset glow in flanderers fields the ball is thrown the game is known the scorn is shown. Row on row the scorn does grow, the scorn rows in flanderers fields. We the dead, short days ago felt sunset glow and now we lie in flanderers field, March madness marched us row by row, where poppies grow in Flanders fields we shall not rest though we lie in flander fields. Why did all those men die in Flanders field, from agriculture corn to multiculture scorn in flanderers field. Scholar and scholarship, scholarship has sank and floundered, scholarship has lost it's founder, where'd you founder in flanderers fields we founder where poppies grow corn rows on row. We the brave say Enfields more scholarship has blown the door, the dart has flown from mouth to scorn and torn the scholar from his ship in Flanders fields the enfields pop row on row. LLXIIX77
@420Kyle1620
@420Kyle1620 3 жыл бұрын
And here we are...
@antitiktokunion3894
@antitiktokunion3894 3 жыл бұрын
Kotkin is an amazing historian I also like Ian Kershaw and Piers Brendon. Whenever I see people make fun of Kotkin I feel bad for him because he works really hard on these books and getting his information on them. But we all have our haters.
@jamesgornall5731
@jamesgornall5731 2 жыл бұрын
Who makes fun of him? His books are incredible
@antitiktokunion3894
@antitiktokunion3894 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgornall5731 ugh I seen a few Kotkin haters some Stalin supporters others just plain haters but we all have our haters.
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting
@fwily2580
@fwily2580 3 жыл бұрын
Skip the first 7:30
@jakebarnes28
@jakebarnes28 3 жыл бұрын
At 1 hour 25 mins., he asks the question "are we safer today?" regarding the mulit-polar world vs. the bi-polar superpower world of the Cold War. I believe the answer implied is a possible "no" and that THIS is the question/issue Putin was addressing in his "the collapse of the USSR was the single greatest geo-political catastrophe of the 20th century" quip. Putin wasn't so much lamenting the collapse but its ramifications for both superpowers (Russia is still a superpower, and should be treated as such).
@lieshtmeiser5542
@lieshtmeiser5542 2 жыл бұрын
"and that THIS is the question/issue Putin was addressing in his "the collapse of the USSR was the single greatest geo-political catastrophe of the 20th century" quip" I think Putin was being silly and inflammatory making a 'quip' like that. The USSR did nothing but damage to Russians (and non russian soviets eg ukrainians and kazakhz etc). Its probably just a sop to those patriotic type russians that can be forgiven for looking back fondly on life back in the heyday of the USSR. The time after Stalin, but before the economic decline, when they believed they had purpose, socialism kinda worked well enough to be tolerated, and they werent queuing for hours for a loaf of bread, or begging friends in western europe for some toilet paper or sanitary pads. Im sure Putin loves his country, he enjoys popularity at home. However, its unhealthy for a man to rule as long as he has with no genuine opposition, and no domestic journalist able to seriously criticize him (or expose him) without having thugs come over to their house and beat them to a pulp. As to the question, the world is perfectly safe from nuclear armageddon, which is the proper framing of that question. At least as safe it has been since before the end of the Cold War. However, when it comes to problems like mass migration, or muslim jihadism, we are less safe; moreso in the west than in Russia.
@philippajoy4300
@philippajoy4300 Ай бұрын
Those who complain about revisionism should listen to Kotkin. One day we may have the Chinese documents, and history will have to be revised again.
@richardzellers
@richardzellers 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who doesn't get the comment about "no one sleepwalks into war", it's a crticism about the arrogant Cambridge Hist. Prof Chris Clark's book The Sleepwalkers: How Europe went to war in 1914. LOL I love it!!!
@jakebarnes28
@jakebarnes28 3 жыл бұрын
"Arrogant"? Name calling. You've outed yourself.
@roberttg3767
@roberttg3767 Жыл бұрын
His book is better than anything Kotkin wrote
@Th0ughtf0rce
@Th0ughtf0rce 3 жыл бұрын
Came for the Joe Pesci comments, stayed for the whole lecture.
@1969cmp
@1969cmp 3 жыл бұрын
😁😂🤣😎
@johnbanwell6391
@johnbanwell6391 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Pesci is a great scholar
@RKarmaKill
@RKarmaKill 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@MrKT410
@MrKT410 3 жыл бұрын
He sounds more like Artie Pie from the Simpsons.
@andreasmartin9430
@andreasmartin9430 3 жыл бұрын
Totally - it’s what’s made me watch like 5 hours of this guy ☺️
@alexandrem2109
@alexandrem2109 3 жыл бұрын
35:47 thats joe pesci 100%
@thomasjamison2050
@thomasjamison2050 3 жыл бұрын
Never interrupt him. It's too dangerous. And don't say anything at all about shining shoes.
@seandouglas5429
@seandouglas5429 11 ай бұрын
He fails to share the Septemberprogram from Kaiser Wilhelm II about german expansion well before 1914
@stevenkennedy
@stevenkennedy 5 жыл бұрын
You rock!
@MrKT410
@MrKT410 3 жыл бұрын
He sounds exactly like Artie Pie from the Simpsons
@clearyourthirdeye
@clearyourthirdeye 8 ай бұрын
33:01
@Alexander-qd7nj
@Alexander-qd7nj 3 жыл бұрын
Its not just modern history, they did the same in ancient history
@roc7880
@roc7880 3 жыл бұрын
indeed
@Ynotnow9900
@Ynotnow9900 3 жыл бұрын
7:31 to skip to kotkin
@kenduffy5397
@kenduffy5397 Жыл бұрын
If you think 2017 is bad? Shoosh, wait until 2022 comes around!
@milominderbinder8655
@milominderbinder8655 Жыл бұрын
Presenter states that the CSA was more wealthy than the union at the time of the US civil war? Thats contrary to everything ive ever heard or read. Im Not an expert on the subject, but i wonder where he is getting that idea from
@martinan22
@martinan22 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic quality, as always from Stephen Kotkin. However, Hitler hardly wanted to destroy the British Empire? I think this is just Kotkin strategic speak, things he says in order to be able to say other things. Hitler was facing a war of attrition against the Empire. Without access to oil. That was a war he would lose, eventually. Hitler wanted alliance with the Empire. But with German domination of the continent. And German licence to forever expand eastwards. Which was unacceptable to the Empire since eventually Germany would become too strong.
@lieshtmeiser5542
@lieshtmeiser5542 2 жыл бұрын
"However, Hitler hardly wanted to destroy the British Empire?" He wanted to conquer Britain (or at least enough of it to neutralize it). However, he went to full blown war before his navy and air force were ready. Thats what makes the madness of the invasion of the USSR so unfathomable to any sane and rational person. Hence why Kotkin says Hitler was crazy, and a gambler.
@martinan22
@martinan22 2 жыл бұрын
@@lieshtmeiser5542 Hitler was a gambler and a failed leader. However, the British Empire declared war on Hitler. Not the other way around. The conflict with Poland was written into Versaillie. It had nothing to do with Nazi ideology. It was just a fact that a third of Poland's terriroty was formerly German territory, taken from it by France and British Empire and USA. This was not tenable. Because Germany was much much stronger than Poland and would try to get its territory back sooner or later, nazis or no nazis.
@lieshtmeiser5542
@lieshtmeiser5542 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinan22 Yes technically Britain declared war on Hitlers Germany; I personally think that was a good example of Hitler gambling that Britain would back down; thankfully they didnt, because it was only ever going to get worse and worse with Hitler.
@martinan22
@martinan22 2 жыл бұрын
@@lieshtmeiser5542 WW2 was the worst possible outcome. And that was created just as much by British Empire manipulation and clever politics as by stupid nazis. British Empire was dead set on the destruction of Germany ever since German unification. Just as British Empire was dead set at the destruction of Napoleon's Empire. Just as Britain was dead set on stopping Russian Empire creating a dependent Greek state out of Turkey. I do not know why, but the global sea trading empire hate's a united Europe and big powerful eurasian powers. Just as US hatered of Russia today. I dont know why this is but I am sure they know what they are doing.
@lieshtmeiser5542
@lieshtmeiser5542 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinan22 "Just as US hatered of Russia today." I think you have it the other way round with this. For me I see current day Russia deeply suspicious of the USA, and some russian trolls on youtube make it very clear that they hate America, and the West more broadly. It is undeserved. Any look back in history shows the competition and conflict between the two powers, but ultimately they became stewards of the global order after the defeat of 'the Axis Powers' and they slowly (and dangerously) made sense of the situation over time (ie didnt blow eachother up). "British Empire was dead set on the destruction of Germany ever since German unification." I think this is a hangover from the inadequate and unsatisfactory conclusion of WW1. The Second Reich lost the war, but wasnt completely defeated. Hitler rose to power in conditions where Germans were vulnerable to 'make germany great again' rhetoric, and as Kotkin said was essentially handed power without having to win an election. As Hitler annexed territories and flouted the versailles treaty, I think britain could see the writing on the wall. To be honest, I think Britain didnt want destruction of a reunified Germany at that particular moment, and may have been conflicted about it even at the end of WW2, but there was absolutely no way British sensibilities on the matter would stop (1) soviet revenge and smashing, and (2) American total victory.
@bekrijasam
@bekrijasam 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of History is? Just scratching the surface. Go deep ,follow the trail of money.
@nathanmoore101
@nathanmoore101 3 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly
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