1920s Palestine: Corrections, Omissions, and Questions

[@SamAronow]

*UPDATE:* As of 13:00 EDT on 5 October, _one_ of you has guessed correctly.

[@JackGJack7]

Is the country Nigeria? Controversial in a more Crypto-Jew sense? Otherwise I have no clue if all the other guesses have been wrong. Unless it's something huge like the UK or Germany (in which case good luck covering such a huge topic). Shana tova in any sense, hope you've had/are having a good Rosh Hashanah.

[@Caniewaak]

@@SamAronow I think this post is cryptic enough to count as crypto-judaism

[@CharlieBurton-s5r]

Could it be Yemen or China/ Taiwan?

[@JohnnyJacobGO]

Heyyy, would you do a video on the Nakba?

[@Caniewaak]

@@JohnnyJacobGO dude we're still in the 1920s, don't skip ahead, this is timeghost rules

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

The Palestine Riots video was hard to watch. That depressing feeling of "things are not gonna get better any time soon, are they?"

[@Cheese-zt3ns]

Im honestly kinda glad he turned off comments cause I REALLY dont want to see the kind of arguments KZbin commenters would have

[@suspiciousaction4063]

@@Cheese-zt3ns Imagine the sheer amount of Pali bots/shills

[@SomasAcademy]

Waluigi laugh jumpscare

[@babooshcat4129]

I was startled lmao

[@izzystar5904]

lmao

[@user-sh3cf7kd6e]

@@SomasAcademy Soma is supporting a YT channel of a "Ziono-f@scists"?! I refuse to believe it.

[@delliott8749]

is that true

[@Caniewaak]

After the Waluigi laugh, you started "I'm Sam" and it being promptly followed by "Aronow" confused me for a moment because I was honestly expecting "O'Nella" Way to go me, getting two seconds into a history video before I forget what youtuber I'm watching.

[@DiamondKingStudios]

“Until next time, I’m Sam O’Nella, and justice for Waluigi”

[@DM5550Z]

Jewish Sam O’Nella

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

Regarding "maximalist Israel", people often miss the difference between the historical Israel and the promised land. I don't want to get into religion but historians argue that part of the promised land was never "delivered", and the Hebrew Bible itself makes claims from which we can conclude that.

[@Cheese-zt3ns]

its always very frustrating seeing people who dont know anything about Zionism assume its claim is on religious grounds. There's this phrase you hear a lot thats something like "most Zionists dont believe in God but believe God promised them Palestine" which, if you've been watching this series, youd know how infuriatingly oversimplified that is

[@zjzr08]

That being said you seem to argue that parts of Transjordan not being contolled by Jews which even by history it doesn't seem to be the case (hints of control by the Tetrarchy or accounts of Jewish settlement as late as New Testament text says that, although maybe you'd think that's too religious too).

[@cturner956]

Honestly respect for your resolve in making the videos about such a delicate topic during this moment in history rn, keep it up!

[@navetal]

Oh boy, a controversial country special? I have no idea what it could even be, all the obvious countries have already been covered. I'm very excited now.

[@benjaminklass5118]

Maybe it's South Africa.

[@iddomargalit-friedman3897]

The controversial makes me guess, egypt, morrocco, or Iraq

[@user-sh3cf7kd6e]

​@@benjaminklass5118 That's exactly what I thought.

[@omaraalabou4953]

@@iddomargalit-friedman3897 Morocco isn't much controversial, Iraq is full of controversies and has one of the richest jewish history that would be my guess but Yemen could be possible too

[@Alon_Jak]

I hope Sam will be responsible enough to not give the antisemites new fuel for Jew-hatred during this times in which we see an extreme rise in antisemitism.

[@Rev-bb9ej]

Man this series is so freakin' cool.

[@jimfromdiscord.8904]

Caught this in the first 10 minutes, just had to drop everything and come here! Also, I like how this is starting to line up with your old Elections Israel series, covered everything from 1920 up to 1931, and I assume we're not going to hear much about them until 1944 lol

[@christianreader777]

Jews of Madagascar special? I feel like that’s controversial enough.

[@user-sh3cf7kd6e]

That country is probably South Africa. But I do hope it's Algeria - it's much more interesting.

[@Cheese-zt3ns]

my bet is that its somewhere like Uganda or Nigeria where there is a community for whom its debated as to whether or not they're Jews

[@thedemongodvlogs7671]

Moving into the 20s in the diaspora for me will mark something quite significant. The point in which history will become tangible. My grandparents grew up in 1920s Germany, with all the Weimar upheaval it brought, and I am looking forward to seeing that period covered! Shana tova, Sam!

[@elibrahams5566]

My guesses for that video: 1.Iraq. 2.South Africa. 3.Yemen. 4.Argentina. 5.Algeria. All of them could be controversial for different reasons, and all of them would be interesting.

[@umidazimi3706]

Algeria or South Africa. Considering what the Jewish community was doing in those areas.

[@whydoi4088]

Shanah tova Sam

[@Cheese-zt3ns]

I like this new style of thumbnail since it has been a lil hard to tell recap videos apart

[@AWSMcube]

Iranian Jews is my guess. Persia has long had a Jewish community and I really can't think of a more controversial country (especially in the context of current circumstances in the Middle East). Looking forward to whatever it is though, ty for your videos Sam

[@yashakharrati8015]

He did Iran/Persia already, as well as Central Asia. My guess is a specific Arab country which is hostile to Israel today (Yemen, Lebanon, etc.)

[@milobem4458]

@@yashakharrati8015 Lebanon would be great. Although it doesn't make much sense to talk about Lebanon without Syria. So maybe Greater Syria episode?

[@zjzr08]

@@milobem4458A historic summary of Coele-Syria/Greater Syria/Bilad al-Sham could be interesting as it shows the distinctiveness of the Arabs of the region from other Arabs and yet the seeming struggle to either identify to be more nationalistic, regionalistic or pan-Arabist as a whole IMO.

[@raxit1337]

Thanks for the videos Sam! :)

[@tipshaun3630]

‏‪8:48‬‏ im calling it, it's going to be Poland

[@vampiregamingyt8754]

That would make more sense in the ww2 era videos

[@milobem4458]

He had several videos about Poland already. The topic is too massive to fit it in one video, even as a summary.

[@user-sh3cf7kd6e]

6:30 * cough cough * Syria * cough *

[@typiclyjohny5114]

And I believe Lebanon

[@user-sh3cf7kd6e]

@@typiclyjohny5114 He is referring to Syria. The main reason Israel attacked Syria in 67' is because they started to diverge the water from the rivers that feeds up the sea of Galilee. Without them, Israel wouldn't have enough water to even sustain itself.

[@dmman33]

Shanah Tovah

[@rakib_hoque]

Apart of the first 100 viewers

[@user-sh3cf7kd6e]

8:22 Hmm... very weird that in an episode with a closed comment section there were no questions...

[@bigbubble4282]

He gets his QA from Patreon, not KZbin.

[@user-sh3cf7kd6e]

@@bigbubble4282 I know, It was just a joke. Btw, in the first episodes he also accepted questions from the comment section.

[@vulpes7079]

Can you really blame him for not leaving the comments open

[@Canhistoryismylife]

My controversial county bingo card says Argentina

[@TheLastTocharian]

Argentina, of course.

[@rebeccahenely-weiss3271]

Gonna go wild card and throw in Yemen as a guess.

[@MichaelMiller-yp3qy]

I'm gonna guess Mexico for the special

[@jonyprepperisrael60]

controvertial country with a diaspora? I could assume it might be either a country in which Jews had a dark side or there is a heated debate on how Jews lived there. on the former, I could assume it might be South Africa, the caribbeans (Jewish Pirates), Nigeria (Israeli support for both sides of the civil war). on the latter I could assume it might be latin america (crypto jews), Islamic nations (debate on how good they were realy treated), spesificaly Yemen (due to the missing Yemenite Children scandal) or perhaps Japan (Judeo-Philia that was there for some times). But if I had to take a nice guess, ill go with South Africa, final awnser.

[@SamAronow]

Controversial _within_ the country, not internationally, and because of _current_ events, not historical ones.

[@rezajafari6395]

@@SamAronow definitely Yemen in that case

[@SamAronow]

@@rezajafari6395 Not even close!

[@leeratner8064]

I think one thing you forgot to mention was the Faisal-Weizmann Agreement where Chaim Weizmann and Emir Faisal made a deal for Jewish settlement in Palestine but that got scuttled by the plans of the British and the French. It probably would not have worked since I'm guessing both Chaim Weizmann and Emir Faisal were talking past each other on what they meant politically and even if it did work, somebody else would have said "um, no Emir Fairsal has no right to negotiate for us and we reject." Probably the Mufti himself.

[@glyons1843]

I hope we get a Jewish influence on the Jazz age video!

[@habibikebabtheiii2037]

Black Face😂

[@RandomYouTubeGuy-El-Hechizado]

I have a funny feeling its gonna either be Lithuania or Ukraine

[@zjzr08]

Is it about the Jews of Ukraine I wonder and some anti-semitism there (I read there are still controversial reverence for some Jew-hating figures there).

[@Pratchettgaiman]

Controversial country video eh? My guess is South Africa

[@HarvestStore]

Great video.

[@trunkage]

Was that a Wam Aranow laugh?

[@buttershy_]

shana TOVA 💜

[@ॐIo]

Why did you turn off comment in the Palestine riots video?

[@user-sh3cf7kd6e]

5:50 I must say Sam, virtually all military experts claim that a Palestinian state in the WB must be demilitarized in order for the Israeli civilians be safe. Especially regarding the Jordan Rift Valley.

[@mycaleb8]

What does "virtually all" mean?

[@user-sh3cf7kd6e]

@@mycaleb8 Virtually can mean "for all practical purposes" or "almost entirely".

[@zjzr08]

I also question that part too...I assume no ACTIVE personell says that because it will inflame a reaction within the unicorpoated territory but outside of that there are many agreeing in what you said.

[@boazjamesmiller6387]

Realistically, it must be understood that the Palestinian people want a fully independent sovereign state in the West Bank and Gaza, which by necessity must include control over their own military and foreign policy. Anything less than this has not and will not be accepted by the Palestinian people, which is the reason the 1993 Oslo Accords and the 2000 Camp David summit ultimately failed. If Israel had been willing to concede these things at the time, the entire reason for the conflict would have ended and the safety of Israeli civilians would have been achieved anyway.

[@zjzr08]

@@boazjamesmiller6387 Don't you think there's more of a likelihood the Palestinians of the West Bank will still wage war, seeing when Israel did leave Gaza, Hamas attacked Israel - look up interviews from Palestinians in the West Bank and they still assert areas that are officially recognized as Israel today, and weeding out Islamist elements while also allowing to have Jews be allowed as citizens of this Palestinian state should be part of that agreement.

[@israelilocal]

the history of Jews in Syria and Lebanon finally?

[@DM5550Z]

Common Sam Aronow W

[@George_Wong]

Is that country Poland or Ukraine?

[@Sanjovalentine]

The irony of an Asian with the name of “George” attempting to do a Gotcha is immense.

[@George_Wong]

@@Sanjovalentine You don't think I know that alleged antisemetism is used by both Israel and Russia to spread propaganda against Poland and Ukraine?

[@agesflow6815]

Vatican City?

[@everettduncan7543]

I say Italy

[@lomm__]

i wonder if the mystery country is ukraine and the crimean colonization plan?

[@suspiciousaction4063]

What crimean colonization plan?

[@Cheese-zt3ns]

@@suspiciousaction4063 there was a short lived Soviet proposal to make a Jewish autonomy in Crimea (akin to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast) its not hard to see why it never went anywhere, but its especially weird considering the fact that it had probably the least Jewish presence (albeit with more small communities like the Krymchaks and Karaites) in all of Ukraine

[@suspiciousaction4063]

@@Cheese-zt3ns At least it had some Jewish presence (when compared to Birobidzhan) and a hospitable climate.

[@emilsazanda]

Might I hazard a guess that the (hitherto) unnamed unnamed country is in fact the Ukraine, which had a large and prosperous Jewish population prior to WW2 and the horrors of the Holacaust?

[@zjzr08]

I think incorporating some parts of Transjordan does make the ethnic lines fit also for Levantine Arabs as their language continuum also expanded a bit of that side too (unless it apparently only recently happened) - that being said the Jordan River split was probably closest to a sustainable two-state solution than we got IMO as it will expound that Levantine (Muslim-majority) Arabs who don't want to live in a Jewish majority state can just vountarily leave to a society with a Levantine Muslim Arab majority state IMO and would have official land to expand east.

[@ubermensch1979]

It is claimed that the 1834 peasants revolt is the emergence of a distinct‘Palestinian’ identity. But this seems to be only a part of the larger Syrian Peasants Revolt. Secondly, there seems to be strong antisemitic elements to these revolt, particularly in Safed, but also in other places with a Jewish population. Even the sacking of Jerusalem seems very sectarian in that the peasants selectively targeted the Jewish & Christian quarters. I find the actual accounts of the revolt inconsistent with the notion that the revolt was motivated by or resulted in some sort of Palestinian proto-nationalism. I have a pet theory that this is all mid-20th century retconning. I suspect a lot of folk songs and oral history conveniently corrupted the term ‘Fellahin’ to ‘Filastine’. I’m so confident of this second theory that I expect to come across it in writing, but never have. Has anyone else come across the theory or have good reasons to dismiss it.

[@OrbitalAstronaut]

Wehehe😂

[@yoavba5706]

the name of the land in Jewish tradition is Eretz Israel, not Palestine...

[@Alon_Jak]

More controversy? I hope Sam will be responsible enough to not give the antisemites new fuel for Jew-hatred during this times in which we see an extreme rise in antisemitism.

[@iddomargalit-friedman3897]

שנה טובה! Also, please refrain from contemporary commentary. To your comment about military generals and the west bank: First, this this absolutely untrue, many supported and support this argument. But this argument from authority doesn't hold much weight considering the quality of Israeli high command and its predictions in the last 3 decades, which proved this approach utterly wrong.

[@silaside3798]

I only know of Gershon Hacohen, any others?

[@historysuit9418]

Do you support the current Israeli government?

[@ticketthedog3781]

I mean he has said many times he is a Labour party member. Take this as you wish

[@historysuit9418]

Oh my goshh are they still a party? Don't they have like 3 seats?

[@Cheese-zt3ns]

@@historysuit9418 they recently merged with Meretz to form "The Democrats" and though their far from their former glory, they've been increasing in popularity under their new leader Yair Golan

[@zjzr08]

I will say I am curious about his thoughts of the attacks against Hezbollah...wonder if it's gutsy or foolish for him.