1949 U.S. NAVY TRAINING FILM BENDING OAK TECHNIQUES WOODWORKING NORFOLK NAVAL SHIPYARD 95474

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This black & white educational/training film is about bending oak billets to make bent wood for proper boat construction. Its copyright is September 1949 and was made by the US Navy.
Opening titles: Nonclassified, US Navy Training Film - Bending Oak Techniques
(:08-:55). Wood is lined up. Mountains with wood, Lebanon Cedar wood. Other trees. Roots of the wood afford maximum strength. More tall trees in the woods. White Oak wood is very durable and can be bent for a boat frame. Many boatyards have this wood. A white oak tree (:56-3:17). Tree and then a pile of lumber. Huge slabs of lumber piled. Navy Department inspector requirement paperwork. Thick lumber pieces. A faulty bending technique can cause splits and breaks. Norfolk Naval Shipyard sign. Boat shop. A boat emerges from the boat shop (3:18-5:11). Bending oak is stockpiled in the yard. Lumber pieces close up. Pieces of straight lumber. Specifications of what is good lumber to be bent is explained (5:12-6:41). A moisture machine. A steamboat. Billets are steamed here. A close on the face of a clock. A bending table all set up: its a slab of cast iron checkered with square holes. Bent wood on the table. Different sides of the table. How to bend wood is shown and explained (6:42-10:02). Billet is properly steamed and removed. Face of a clock. Sheet iron is placed onto a side of the billet. Billet is put into the bending machine. More bending is explained (10:03-12:07). The wood is snug against the machine. The curve is pronounced and shown in detail. The wood is being molded to be bent. The finished billets are cured for 30-45 days in open air (12:08-12:12). Bent billet. Slight buckling piece is sawed off. All of the cured, bent wood is placed in the shape of a boat. Long pieces of lumber. How to do this process is explained in detail from phase 1. Panning shot on long pieces of lumber. Steambox. Face of a clock. Wood in the steambox. Pressure applied by a hand while bending. The wood is bent. Bent, cured wood. A finished boat. Another shown from underneath (13:13-16:35). End credits (16:36-16:46).
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@inflintity
@inflintity 3 жыл бұрын
I love watching stuff like this. I’m an 80s kid and this is my Saturday morning cartoons 💪 🎃 🤙
@kevinlee6672
@kevinlee6672 3 жыл бұрын
There's just something special about narrative films in the 40's and 50's. The narration is so soothing and relaxing to listen too.
@donf3877
@donf3877 4 жыл бұрын
Man did this bring back memories. Actually bent some small white oak ribs back in the early 70's when I was in my late teens. Bought an old 1956 16 foot Lyman that had four bad ribs just aft of the center (that's where on a plane it takes the worst pounding). Anyone that grew up around Lake Erie will remember those boats. Dad was a paperhanger by trade and had a big old white gas fired steamer for removing old wallpaper prior to reapplying new. Used an old 2" metal pipe with just a rag on one end and the steamer hose in the other. It took four of us. Had to get the rib out of the pipe, ram in down one side and around the bottom and back up the other side as quick as possible. Then screw it in place with brass screws from the outside pulling it against the hull before it cooled.. Gave the boat to my dad when I went in the Air Force. He sold it five years later in 1981, and it was still running the waters. Damn I miss you dad.
@mrchairman08
@mrchairman08 3 жыл бұрын
Same here 1956 16ft. Lyman Lapstrake with a bad rib and transom took a year of weekends to rebuild.
@donf3877
@donf3877 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrchairman08 Mine had a nice big front deck, but no windshield, and a wonderful front seat. Full width and quite deep, with a tall seat back angled slightly rearward, and plenty of room for your feet. Very comfortable. But... you didn't sit in it. The wheel was mounted on the back of it... and you sat on what was basically a narrow mahogany plank with no room for your feet so you had to sit cross-legged like you were Japanese! Marvelous design. Equally marvelous was the hull. It had a straight stem bow, with no reverse flare at all. It would cut a good sized wave and, in almost slow motion... the water would go up in the air, curl over... and dump right in your lap! Painted it dad's favorite Pettit color... Lemonade yellow with a copper bottom and teak stained bright work (dad hated the red-stained mahogany). Mine had a 35 HP Evinrude Lark engine, and a TeeNee trailer. She'd do 28 MPH according to the Airguide speedometer. Beat the hell outta the old girl water skiing and fishing and just cruising around. After having to do all the repairs to her, when I went looking at a boat, I borrowed another one of my dad"s "tools". A hypodermic needle and syringe. He used it to force glue into a wallpaper bubble and get it to flatten out and stick. I used the needle to check if there was any dry rot on a boat. Guys tend to get just a little 'unhappy' with you digging around their boat poking at it with a screwdriver. But a tiny needle... not so much. Saved me a lot of grief. Some wood boats would look great but, with a little checking, would be a mess under all the pretty paint.
@mrchairman08
@mrchairman08 3 жыл бұрын
@@donf3877 My boat must have been the same as yours. Front bow covered with a small stowage underneath. Straight bow design. Wooden front bench full width. Steering and controls starboard behind the front bench seating for one separately there and also on port side. Inside transom mahogany. The bad rib was caused by a small of water seeping though the side hull from behind. The wood was there but very porous so I injected it with a wood hardener and never had a problem with that area again.
@donf3877
@donf3877 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrchairman08 WOW... small world... same boat. And, let me guess, you used Git-Rot. For those that don't know, it's like thin fiberglass resin, with a antifungal in it to kill the rot). Had a soft spot on the bottom right at the transom, and two more at the bad ribs. Used 60 grit sandpaper to get the paint off and rough up the wood so it was porous. The Git-Rot seeped right into the wood, and it was hard as a rock. The four bad ribs was from the guy that owned it before me. He let the paint wear off on the ribs, and left standing water from the rain sit in the bottom. That's all it took. If you take care of a wood boat, it will last forever. Forget about it for even a little while... and to the burn pile it goes.
@mrchairman08
@mrchairman08 3 жыл бұрын
@@donf3877 Exactly! I took the paint of the outside where the wood felt spongy and injected that product that hardened it solid.
@creepingjesus5106
@creepingjesus5106 4 жыл бұрын
71 years on, it's still sound advice!
@crazybarryfam
@crazybarryfam 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here wondering who the lucky tiger is that got all the ruined wood. I'd be leaving with a full truck everyday.
@creepingjesus5106
@creepingjesus5106 3 жыл бұрын
@@wokedisease4277 boats are still built from wood, even yet. Never mind repair and restoration. And all the other things you can do with bent wood. But apart from that...
@karsaorlong666
@karsaorlong666 3 жыл бұрын
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
@creepingjesus5106
@creepingjesus5106 3 жыл бұрын
@@karsaorlong666 If it ain't broke, it ain't mine...😂
@kourtneylilly2280
@kourtneylilly2280 3 жыл бұрын
@@wokedisease4277 5
@goognamgoognw6637
@goognamgoognw6637 4 жыл бұрын
This is a stellar and extremely well done video, what is done today in term of conveying skills efficiently is a far cry. Without a doubt we paradoxically live in an era of weak technology, despite all the innovations and miniaturisation technology is no longer used soundly. Imagine how satisfying would have been to work in that shipyard even for a qualified manual labor, compared to the work done today where humans are simply used as robots.
@DoctorShocktor
@DoctorShocktor 4 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous. Technology now produces huge computing power, massively strong and economic materials, manipulates genetics for better food and medicines, is creating a whole new era of space and other exploration, on and on. Your premise is vastly incorrect. And as far as the “joy of manual labor” humans can be better used and have more satisfying lives than spending day after day on repetitive tasks in a factory. If one wants to build their own boat or other craft, they should have the time, finances, and freedom to do so without a mind and body numbing job. Until we demand this of our society, corporations, economies and governments, we will still have millions of people toiling away as slaves.
@universed4
@universed4 4 жыл бұрын
DoctorShocktor some people actually like to do manual labor… It is very rewarding to do something physical other than typing on a keyboard or pushing an ink pen…
@qwerty13380
@qwerty13380 4 жыл бұрын
@@universed4 If you get so much joy digging ditches you should be very happy.
@davidmc1489
@davidmc1489 4 жыл бұрын
I think my local lumber yard secretly does this with all the wood they try n sell me...nuttin ever seems straight when i go in to get any..sumbeeches
@its1110
@its1110 4 жыл бұрын
Oh. Not all of the beech wood? So all of the pine or none?
@luke_skywanker7643
@luke_skywanker7643 3 жыл бұрын
Home Depot and Lowes. Crookedest 2X4s you can find! And then the employees "eyeball" you when you're trying to select something straight enough to use. I'm lucky where I live. There's still a family-owned hardware store and lumber yard and they seem to get wood that's substantially better than the Big Box guys. And it doesn't cost much more, either.
@thelaughingman79
@thelaughingman79 3 жыл бұрын
my dad used to make them go through the whole damn stack with him to get the decent boards haha
@yanikkunitsin1466
@yanikkunitsin1466 3 жыл бұрын
Sum birches
@Misha-dr9rh
@Misha-dr9rh 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, you all can afford wood?
@texasgonzo67
@texasgonzo67 3 жыл бұрын
Getting totally addicted to these things! Always something to learn which transcends the given subject. Here for example, are tips for bow builders. Love em, thanks for posting!
@somedaysoon3784
@somedaysoon3784 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Periscope is an honest to goodness treasure trove.
@joeshmoe8847
@joeshmoe8847 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@v35james78
@v35james78 2 жыл бұрын
If people want to MAGA, forget all that politics crap on tv and start showing these movies in elementary and Jr High.
@geirmyklebust
@geirmyklebust 3 жыл бұрын
Thank God its unclassified.
@irinabonney1721
@irinabonney1721 4 жыл бұрын
I always check for moisture before I place wood in the steambox.
@randydewees7338
@randydewees7338 4 жыл бұрын
Well, he did say why.
@_GOD_HAND_
@_GOD_HAND_ 4 жыл бұрын
Placing your wood in a dry steambox can be a very unpleasant experience
@shanek6582
@shanek6582 4 жыл бұрын
Irina Bonney took me a minute lol
@crazybarryfam
@crazybarryfam 4 жыл бұрын
And remember boys, don't spit! Longer lasting most is ideal for the wood going in the steambox!
@keyweststeve3509
@keyweststeve3509 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man! That was right there waiting to be plucked and you got it! :-))
@theheirofgrace8095
@theheirofgrace8095 3 жыл бұрын
This was the exact time and location where my father was in the Navy. Thank you, I've been trying to find out for years but, he was too traumatized to speak of his experiences beginning at 18 yrs of age. He left as a petty officer 3rd class. I'm not sure of where he'd learned so much about woodworking but, our home was his work of art.
@tylaquiljones
@tylaquiljones 3 жыл бұрын
Reading your comment makes me so happy for you that you found this video :) A relative of mine recently found a video some random channel uploaded that showed a great uncle of mine on a navy ship, smiling and waving to the camera! None of us had seen it before and she found it completely by accident...it was really cool.
@KingSlimjeezy
@KingSlimjeezy 4 жыл бұрын
woah you could make some awesome ceilings/ roofs with this
@edgmp
@edgmp 4 жыл бұрын
If you found this interesting I highly recommend watching Leo at Sampsons Boat Company. Start with the introduction, ep 1. Tons of stuff for anyone interested in old wooden boats, woodworking tools, history, and best practices. Leo is very knowledgable, skilled and likable. As a bonus you'll love his morels/parrot/dog/girlfriend/organizational skills/persistence/and knack for surrounding himself with great people.
@spacetexan1667
@spacetexan1667 3 жыл бұрын
Well aren’t you a wholesome internet people ❤️
@jimf1007
@jimf1007 3 жыл бұрын
I watch that guy. I love his stuff
@alk3g
@alk3g 3 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this today while I wait for his episode to release...
@williamschmidt1900
@williamschmidt1900 4 жыл бұрын
This film was made two years after I was born. Saw a wooden luxury boat builder in Washington state some thirty years ago who used the same equipment that he bought from the Navy.
@ryangentry8796
@ryangentry8796 3 жыл бұрын
That should. Be illigal...
@jaygreider4753
@jaygreider4753 2 жыл бұрын
I wake up every day and say, as I said to my students, "If I don't learn something new today, no matter how trivial it is, it's a wasted day." I'm a Vietnam Navy Vet and rode on the "liberty launches" for 4 years, serving on a carrier, and knew they were all made of wood but never imagined what it was like to make one. Weird, but interesting video. Thanks for the upload.
@jamesfrost7465
@jamesfrost7465 3 жыл бұрын
I soak my wood, (smaller pieces) in Ammonia. I can bend curves into flat pieces of wood without it buckeling. I cant have a steam box where I work. Now I've never done large beams such as this but. Seriously, soak your wood overnight then work it into place and clamp it. When it dries, you have a nice bent piece of wood. I do this all the time.
@geraldfahey2681
@geraldfahey2681 3 жыл бұрын
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago!
@postal_the_clown
@postal_the_clown 3 жыл бұрын
But how come it takes 20 years to find that out?
@jonrabat5561
@jonrabat5561 3 жыл бұрын
2nd best time?
@MrJamright
@MrJamright 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonrabat5561 right now
@geraldfahey2681
@geraldfahey2681 3 жыл бұрын
@@postal_the_clown what has a mouth,but doesnt talk?runs,but never walks?has a bed,but doesnt sleep?
@postal_the_clown
@postal_the_clown 3 жыл бұрын
@@geraldfahey2681 a river...or my dog.
@norman102745
@norman102745 4 жыл бұрын
I am proud of our white oak. It is essential for wine and whiskey barrels.
@ronaldfazekas6492
@ronaldfazekas6492 4 жыл бұрын
wow--lots of work--lots of skill--thank god for fiberglass!--plus it does not rot
@gullreefclub
@gullreefclub 4 жыл бұрын
Hate to tell you fiberglass does rot and you need a great deal of skill to properly work with fiberglass additional most fiberglass boats have some form of support ribbing in them and they are commonly made of wood.
@markburch6253
@markburch6253 4 жыл бұрын
Fiberglass rots....where have you been?
@jacksons1010
@jacksons1010 4 жыл бұрын
Fiberglass delaminates and blisters; not "rot" per se, but fiberglass doesn't last forever.
@NordboDK
@NordboDK 4 жыл бұрын
@Mike Cruickshanks Any idiot can cut wood, too.
@CIorox_BIeach
@CIorox_BIeach 3 жыл бұрын
Fiberglass sucks. I've worked with both and I'll take wood any day.
@markreeter6227
@markreeter6227 4 жыл бұрын
I refuse to get bent out of shape over this.
@bubblehead78
@bubblehead78 4 жыл бұрын
Primo comment! Well done.
@chrisbanbury
@chrisbanbury 3 жыл бұрын
It helps if you get a bit steamed.
@jeffreycoulter4095
@jeffreycoulter4095 4 жыл бұрын
Valuable information for restoration and construction processes. But, for every oak cut down, we should be planting another 100. Oak tree growth is slow. White oak is also used in making staves for oak wine, whiskey and other fermented alcohols. Good for casks and buckets. They last a long time if protected from fire and rot. Could be a good job for all of America's unemployed. Put the U.S. back on an agricultural production footing.
@stevenbiars4817
@stevenbiars4817 3 жыл бұрын
Should be planting around 220-250 for every one we take down. In 100 years, you'll see many of those die from various factors, and out of the ones that don't, many will have internal rot, which is common to many species of oak that appear healthy otherwise if they aren't carefully monitored.
@DurzoBlunts
@DurzoBlunts 3 жыл бұрын
We used to have the Civilian Conservation corps. It needs to come back
@mikejohnson5491
@mikejohnson5491 2 жыл бұрын
Was in the logging industry and 90 percent of the clear cuts where replanted with pine. The select cuts where most of the oaks came from mostly were most left a lone letting the hardwoods to come back naturally
@raffriff42
@raffriff42 4 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the whole video? Good. You are now a semi-qualified Oak Bender. Go forth and bend some oak! But for Pete's sake, be careful!
@phendlin
@phendlin 3 жыл бұрын
isn't that one of the commandments? go forth and bend...
@edwardsisson3580
@edwardsisson3580 3 жыл бұрын
Who's Pete ?
@raffriff42
@raffriff42 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardsisson3580 >Who's Pete ? _Saint_ Pete, of Pearly Gates fame!
@jasonsummit1885
@jasonsummit1885 3 жыл бұрын
That order form at 3:58 for the wood was out of Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, I live about ten miles from there. My dad retired from there after 32 years, don't think he ever worked with wood though. Ships were all made of steel by the time he got there.😁
@davidmc1489
@davidmc1489 4 жыл бұрын
Man i wish i would have known this about white oak 5 days ago...chopped two of em down that were super straight and about 15 inches thru...i cut em to 10-12 ft long and to a local mill at least..rest will heat my shop this winter
@deepbludude4697
@deepbludude4697 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an old Navy 26" launch back in the late 80s lived on it after decking it over never did bend any oak though laid a lot of FG on that old girl chugged up n down the Florida ICW took it across lake Okechobee into the 10000 islands Just me my dog a kayak and a bike good times!
@minirock000
@minirock000 8 ай бұрын
26 inches you say. Lived on it you say. The foot symbol is "'".
@its1110
@its1110 4 жыл бұрын
That is one time- and labour-intensive process!
@davemould4638
@davemould4638 3 жыл бұрын
Long ago the British navy used to have wood grown in the curves they wanted by bending saplings to the desired shape, and making adjustments as the trees grew. These days shipyards are too impatient, and would not tolerate lumberyards that gave delivery times of 60+ years from date of order.
@eagleeye761
@eagleeye761 2 жыл бұрын
a lost art... great video
@wisconsinwoodsman1987
@wisconsinwoodsman1987 2 жыл бұрын
Bending Oak…good alternative band name.
@reversefulfillment9189
@reversefulfillment9189 3 жыл бұрын
The is gold!
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing that this was still standard practice in 1949. I would have thought steel ships totally dominated the navy and shipping by then. When did we stop building ships out of wood like this? Amazing process.
@jeffp3415
@jeffp3415 3 жыл бұрын
At this point they were still building ship's boats (Captains Barge, gigs, whaleboats, etc) out of wood.
@soupsandwich8940
@soupsandwich8940 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffp3415 Minesweepers were built from wood too.
@alwaysbearded1
@alwaysbearded1 3 жыл бұрын
Small boats started to be replaced by fiberglass 1950's and then overtook wood in the 1960's. Steel likely overtook wood about the same time for larger boats. Big ships started to be built in iron mid 1800's moving to steel by the 1880s or so but large wooden vessels were built right a long side of them but you can only build so big in wood. Laminated wood is easier in some ways and uses less rare wood and can be used for frames and planking, knees, almost anything. I hope that gives you some context. I could go on for many pages but I need to go to bed. Gotta work ya know.
@FredPilcher
@FredPilcher 4 жыл бұрын
Love the jaunty music.
@ryangentry8796
@ryangentry8796 3 жыл бұрын
Listen to slayer...
@karsaorlong666
@karsaorlong666 3 жыл бұрын
I think I can build a boat now tho. Many beers and being a veteran this is absolutely fascinating but I was Army. My grandpa was Navy and my cousin too. Even my grandma was a WWII nurse.
@johnspurrier0001
@johnspurrier0001 3 жыл бұрын
I just wish there were still forest with trees that look like that.
@FornoDan
@FornoDan 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@joshschneider9766
@joshschneider9766 4 жыл бұрын
I love how they used the term billet like steel.
@PeterLawton
@PeterLawton 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I recall reading a Sherlock Holmes book that mentioned a van, before automotive vans even existed. It was another horse-drawn box on wheels, and the automotive vehicle we now call a van got its name from that.
@2strokejunkie686
@2strokejunkie686 3 жыл бұрын
Aluminum was the first to come to mind, the term billet, I may be wrong but i believe it means a semi cut or machined piece of said material, rather than a forged piece or casting.
@tacticaldachshund2734
@tacticaldachshund2734 3 жыл бұрын
Of course the Navy has a video on how to work wood.
@williamcharles9480
@williamcharles9480 3 жыл бұрын
What an interesting instructional. A major problem that creates waste of precious wood is being in a damned hurry. This is an art, not a mass production oriented process. In the end, damned it's nice to have fiberglass enter the scene!
@dschaub9535
@dschaub9535 3 жыл бұрын
If only the Egyptians had made documentaries like this when the pyramids were built.
@keithfulkerson
@keithfulkerson 3 жыл бұрын
Set the speed to 1.25x and it sounds fairly normal.
@Jeffery_Saulter
@Jeffery_Saulter 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you always comment this garbage idiot?
@hlcorick
@hlcorick 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith!
@Jeffery_Saulter
@Jeffery_Saulter 3 жыл бұрын
@@hlcorick my name Jeff
@abobbybaby4
@abobbybaby4 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn’t talking to you Jeff.
@Jeffery_Saulter
@Jeffery_Saulter 3 жыл бұрын
@@abobbybaby4 stop commenting
@RyllenKriel
@RyllenKriel 3 жыл бұрын
This is my wood. My wood is my responsibility, there are many like it but this is mine to bend. God bless the Navy. Haha!
@jonnydanger7181
@jonnydanger7181 3 жыл бұрын
I have more respect for our military than anything that exists. 🇺🇸
@texasgonzo67
@texasgonzo67 3 жыл бұрын
Atleast those who actually serve with boots on... the top top of the heap though, I take em with a cattle salt lick block. 😊
@tjmmcd1
@tjmmcd1 3 жыл бұрын
The Lebanon cedar is the best wood to create ships of war. Now there are only 300 such trees left in existence. Say no more.
@PhilJonesIII
@PhilJonesIII 3 жыл бұрын
There are currently around 6000 acres of them now and they are plentiful in Turkey.
@MD-scorpion
@MD-scorpion 3 жыл бұрын
The Bible references the cedar trees of Lebanon
@michaeloneil2379
@michaeloneil2379 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhilJonesIII just enough material for next Ford class carrier and a couple of pt boat escorts.😎
@teufelshunde8865
@teufelshunde8865 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Love it. Semper Fi! Brother.
@celticman1909
@celticman1909 3 жыл бұрын
Who watched all this and then 👎disliked it?
@danielash1704
@danielash1704 3 жыл бұрын
Thank God for fiber glass and composite fibers that can be stronger than steel .
@mqbitsko25
@mqbitsko25 4 жыл бұрын
We must conserve our national oak supply.
@jonnydanger7181
@jonnydanger7181 3 жыл бұрын
They have tree farms.
@mmcalifornia8600
@mmcalifornia8600 3 жыл бұрын
So interesting how craftsmanship was vital to manufacturing. Such a shame to see these trades disappear and the knowledge lost
@tnwhiskey68
@tnwhiskey68 3 жыл бұрын
It really is sad, the farther we "advance" the dumber we get. Technology can make profits for CEOs but you just cant replace that old school craftsmanship!
@ravenexi
@ravenexi 4 жыл бұрын
Before inserting the wood into the steam box, check it for moisture lol
@mccosmicdj5066
@mccosmicdj5066 3 жыл бұрын
"Steam Box"? So that's what they were calling women's junk in the 40s. You learn something new everyday...🤔🤨😆
@luke_skywanker7643
@luke_skywanker7643 3 жыл бұрын
@@mccosmicdj5066 I heard some of them were pretty steamy back then.
@Automedon2
@Automedon2 3 жыл бұрын
@@luke_skywanker7643 why perfume was such a big thing then
@edgmp
@edgmp 4 жыл бұрын
When I was very young ( 1960-? ) my dad and I built a dingy. If I remember correctly we used beach ribs that were bent using some sort process using Ammonia. Does this make sense or ring a bell with anyone? As a teenager, I moved on to foam core and fiberglass composite as it yielded much faster results. :)
@bobhazzard7747
@bobhazzard7747 4 жыл бұрын
Check Engelscoachshop UT channel. He has a whole series on bending wagon and carriage parts. He adds ammonia to the steam water to increase penetration. Perhaps that's what you remember.
@georgeloyie7456
@georgeloyie7456 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobhazzard7747 soaking the wood overnight or a bit longer in the ammonia & water mix makes the wood surprisingly easy to form, clamp and then sun cure/dry the piece. But it takes time, the soaking and sun drying that is. So today's dollar chasing impatient "craftsman" uses heat to steam the wood and electric ovens to cure/dry it at fairly great cost and of course that cost is put to the man buying the formed boards or whole boats. Definately a lost art because most of those boys just don't care to wait, got to have their results NOW sort of... people. There is a sweet satisfaction found in doing things 'the old way' and even though you might think it slower, well doing it the old way gives you time to work on other projects, food for thought. I had to edit: When I say 'sun drying/curing' I mean that the shaped wood needs to have some of the heat from the sun for drying, not direct sunlight. Under a roof with good ventilation.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
Press F in the chat for the Lebanon cedar.
@illuminated2438
@illuminated2438 4 жыл бұрын
You see things like this and realize we are now living in an actual dark age.
@Mike-gz4xn
@Mike-gz4xn 3 жыл бұрын
You can identify as a woodworker and your good.
@123darkfang
@123darkfang 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-gz4xn 😂
@blownonfuel
@blownonfuel 3 жыл бұрын
Is this the same guy that did narration for the "turbo encabulator"?
@Hermangoldstein
@Hermangoldstein 3 жыл бұрын
757 whoop whoop 🙌
@bigimskiweisenheimer8325
@bigimskiweisenheimer8325 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever see a finer steam box? nice
@pal98111
@pal98111 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea the navy made wood ships in 1950. I thought they were steel.
@PeriscopeFilm
@PeriscopeFilm 2 жыл бұрын
Minesweepers and PT Boats -- have wood hulls. As did many auxiliaries / small vessels.
@alexciocca4451
@alexciocca4451 3 жыл бұрын
I believe this is the wood to build King Solomon’s temple
@ThatOpalGuy
@ThatOpalGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Suddenly: fiberglass!
@Getoverhere666
@Getoverhere666 3 жыл бұрын
1949?! Looks more like the Viking Age film, (and even the quality of the film is also consistent with that era.) Anyways. Amazing film! Thank you!
@PeriscopeFilm
@PeriscopeFilm 3 жыл бұрын
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@AutoHoax
@AutoHoax 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of real knowledge that's being lost to our civilization is astonishing. We only need so many technologists. The skilled worker has been highly overlooked and taken for granted. As the insanity of the NWO comes into our society our children and grandchildren who take notice now and make themselves cognizant of the deterioration could stand to make a fortune being the skilled tradesman who knows how to embrace these timeless physical talents and abilities. The farmer, carpenter mason (not just freemason) and all manner of other tradesman will be the more highly values individuals in the coming apocalypse that's just over the horizon.
@tomcline5631
@tomcline5631 4 жыл бұрын
Cedar's good and all,but you couldn't build a really big boat much less an actual ship of any size with cedar. The structural strength just ain't there. Great for small craft though. Anyone causing 60% losses wouldn't be Workin in my shop anymore,that's just piss poor technique. Norfolk was at 6%,I mean come on.
@marzsit9833
@marzsit9833 3 жыл бұрын
you are thinking north american red cedar, the cedar from the mediterranean is quite different.
@boringsoaring
@boringsoaring 3 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not the navy boats were built on a much larger scale and speed and had way better quality standards than a small shop
@Ohnyet
@Ohnyet 3 жыл бұрын
And then came fiberglass!
@maunster3414
@maunster3414 4 жыл бұрын
You get a like, you get a like, you ALL get a like! Hurray!
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 3 жыл бұрын
...that REALLY goes against my GRAIN-(!)
@vvvci
@vvvci 3 жыл бұрын
As much as they loved those majestic Lebanon cedars.... you might think someone would plant some groves and keep them protected... but I guess it's hard to stop hungry or cold ppl from cutting down trees for sale or for firewood...
@CIorox_BIeach
@CIorox_BIeach 3 жыл бұрын
Many of the trees you see are planted. There are obvious man made forests like the ones in the Florida panhandle with their even rows and heights, and ones you'd never suspect like much of Missouri. People have been planting trees for both commercial use, ecosystem stability and the sake of having them all over the country from Oregon, to Michigan, to Arkansas and beyond.
@CIorox_BIeach
@CIorox_BIeach 3 жыл бұрын
Also you don't cut live trees for firewood. Green wood doesn't burn very well, smokes like crazy and is very difficult to split. Firewood cutting is no threat to timber whatsoever. I've seen people try to burn live wood a few times, but it's very rare and only done out of sheer stupidity.
@steveperry1344
@steveperry1344 3 жыл бұрын
i have a 70' white oak in my front yard that's a great looking tree but it's too close to the house. i'd like to take it down, maybe i could sell it to some boat builder.
@tnwhiskey68
@tnwhiskey68 3 жыл бұрын
A Governmemt employee allowed for 60% loss? I bet he got promoted!
@bonitalang9975
@bonitalang9975 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if bending it to the left or to the right makes a difference? Seems to me that one way would be better for the grains in the wood. Also, can the person bending the wood be able to notice a difference, during the bending process.
@AutoHoax
@AutoHoax 2 жыл бұрын
Always beware of a steambox with any foul odors or steamboxes that seem unnaturally fragrant from the use of items meant to cover up foul or overly fishy 🐟 odors.
@unicorntelecoms4387
@unicorntelecoms4387 3 жыл бұрын
I like how this gentleman speaks, i could not identify him as American if you paid me.
@jeffburns778
@jeffburns778 3 жыл бұрын
The narrator sounds like the dad from Leave it to Beaver.
@DouglasUrantia
@DouglasUrantia 4 жыл бұрын
I can see why we now build'em in fiberglass.....long lasting and strong.
@jacksons1010
@jacksons1010 4 жыл бұрын
If both are properly maintained, does fiberglass actually last longer than wood? I'm not so sure about that.
@jeffdriscoll6096
@jeffdriscoll6096 3 жыл бұрын
But the stink!
@colemanadamson5943
@colemanadamson5943 4 жыл бұрын
Wow.....didn't know the greenie weenies were around back then.....must be a virus.
@RedfishInc
@RedfishInc 3 жыл бұрын
These are skills common to the day that are quickly becoming a lost art. Materials that conquered the world have no place in the conquering of the universe. Even quality hardwood furniture is getting to be an expensive rarity as pressboards, laminates and plastics are used more and more frequently.
@troyelliott390
@troyelliott390 2 жыл бұрын
👊
@bobbyrice
@bobbyrice 3 жыл бұрын
Now we have bending robots for these things. 🤖
@bobbyrice
@bobbyrice 3 жыл бұрын
@Grim FPV Of course. What other kind of robot would you use for bending?!
@barrysims9906
@barrysims9906 3 жыл бұрын
Bender! Powered by Booze
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 3 жыл бұрын
Naturally, the Navy would know a thing or two about wood.
@scottfirman
@scottfirman 4 жыл бұрын
Now days we use fiberglass and carbon fiber. Funny how technology has saved trees. Too bad it couldn't have come sooner for many types of trees never to be seen again.
@ryangentry8796
@ryangentry8796 3 жыл бұрын
Who asked you...
@jacksonledford6874
@jacksonledford6874 3 жыл бұрын
Trees are the most renewable resource we have if we manage it correctly, in the past we obviously have not though
@barrysims9906
@barrysims9906 3 жыл бұрын
Cut one plant two? Like kniting.
@texasblueboy1508
@texasblueboy1508 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if any of those types of Trees exist in Lebanon?
@judclark7376
@judclark7376 4 жыл бұрын
oak is nice
@MrTuggins
@MrTuggins 4 жыл бұрын
I came to the tubes for movie trailers, how'd I end up here?
@christianitis
@christianitis 4 жыл бұрын
It happens
@ALex-yv8xw
@ALex-yv8xw 3 жыл бұрын
And Grown Birthing people today that don't have Id's that are College educated can't even Read a tape measure or tell you What the Times table is ..... I SURE DO LOVE DEVELOPMENT HOUSES ..... Don't you ! Not a Round detail anywhere ..... you think We Forgot how to ?
@stilltlrforlife
@stilltlrforlife 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm wood, how does one make this "wood"??
@G58
@G58 4 жыл бұрын
The amazing of waste is immense. From tree to boat it’s prion the order of 90%! Modern techniques allow for far less waste at all stages.
@jarroddraper5140
@jarroddraper5140 4 жыл бұрын
Should watch the new build of acorn to arabela
@unknownfilmmaker777
@unknownfilmmaker777 4 жыл бұрын
What happens to rejected stock? Sold for paper?
@moremoneyfordreadnoughts1100
@moremoneyfordreadnoughts1100 4 жыл бұрын
I would think if rejected for bending can still be used for straight pieces.
@dazaspc
@dazaspc 4 жыл бұрын
Crates, pallets, construction, flooring even stoking the fires to make the steam to bend the good stuff. Wood for bending is about the highest grade you can get. It is also a premium price 5X the normal piece
@jgeur
@jgeur 4 жыл бұрын
keeps you warm on a cold, winter's morning
@fhuber7507
@fhuber7507 4 жыл бұрын
Damage control braces and many other purposes. If nothing else... book shelves.
@kenmore01
@kenmore01 4 жыл бұрын
They get turned by lathe into single toothpicks.
@bloodywellright2870
@bloodywellright2870 3 жыл бұрын
Should grow fiberglass trees,they last 4 ever.
@eddiekulp1241
@eddiekulp1241 2 жыл бұрын
This film says 1949 , why does the Navy heed to bend oak . Thought ships they used were steel then
@PeriscopeFilm
@PeriscopeFilm 2 жыл бұрын
Probably for jolly boats, whalers, and possibly mine layers or other small craft.
@minirock000
@minirock000 8 ай бұрын
Liberty Ships and vessels of that class were wood. Some planes were still wood at that time. Until recently a car company produced a car that was wood they, still may do.
@yanikkunitsin1466
@yanikkunitsin1466 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, so how to bend birch now?
@yuvanbaldwinew9282
@yuvanbaldwinew9282 3 жыл бұрын
Basically if your wood isn't wet don't bend it. That's what she said.
@thomascampbell4730
@thomascampbell4730 4 жыл бұрын
So how did the ancients do it without a fancy steambox? Craftsmanship, a way of thinking and a reflection of a work ethic, nearly lost today.
@jmowreader9555
@jmowreader9555 4 жыл бұрын
The ancients did it by placing the wood in water until it had softened. The only thing the steambox does for you is lets you bend the wood in four hours, not four months.
@DoctorShocktor
@DoctorShocktor 4 жыл бұрын
Utter nonsense. Today we have extreme craftsmanship in composite materials, exotic metals, versatile plastics, genetic material, silicon, chemistry, computing, robotics, artificial intelligence and autonomy and more. We have the “work ethic” that extends lifespans, allows private companies to fly spacecraft and for people to own handheld powerful computers and communication devices. There are other problems, but a lack of industrious efforts is not one of them, although society and economics could be set up much better to utilize humankind much better.
@mabamabam
@mabamabam 4 жыл бұрын
They explained how "the ancients" did it at the start of the video. They didnt bend wood they chose wood that was already the right shape.
@markburch6253
@markburch6253 4 жыл бұрын
Did you notice the first part of the video? They literally showed the ancients used the part of the tree where it sloped out at the roots. They didn't bend it. They just shaped it.
@davidschwartz5127
@davidschwartz5127 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoctorShocktor Your right but we do have a lack of pride in craftsmanship also that hurts our manufactured products.
@coloradostrong
@coloradostrong 3 жыл бұрын
Looks straighter than the garbage sold at Lowe's and Home Depot. Better known as your local "True-Warp-N-Tapered Ends Stores" LLC.
@myfavoritemartian1
@myfavoritemartian1 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't say if it needed to be quarter saw'n or not.
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 3 жыл бұрын
The supply of White Oak is now being exhausted... The Navy has strict standards for the White Oak it uses. These are in conflict with each other. Just saying.
@mr.noneyabidness
@mr.noneyabidness 3 жыл бұрын
Today the wine industry is killing all the white oak for their barrels.
@bovineknievel410
@bovineknievel410 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.noneyabidness Subdivisions and urban sprawl kill off most of the white oak and that stuff ain't never coming back
@timothyrepp4259
@timothyrepp4259 3 жыл бұрын
@@bovineknievel410 I really don’t know how these myths get perpetuated.You do realize that wood is a renewable resource.In a tiny state like Maryland alone there is enough white oak to build an armada of ships like the world has never seen.I’m not suggesting that we should be irresponsible with our forests and the western world hasn’t been for generations.Even when we didn’t understand how fragile our forests were we still didn’t permanently destroy them.To the contrary it’s been fungi and insects that have been devastating to our forests and humans are finding ways to save more and more species.Just look at the American elm and how we are making progress against the Dutch elm disease.Unfortunately all sorts of species of plants and animals suffer and even become extinct for a variety of reasons.I find it amazing that humans always get the blame when in reality we have created so many habitats and saved so many species.
@DurzoBlunts
@DurzoBlunts 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothyrepp4259 Maine has a population density of 43 per SQ mile... That's why you have more trees than people, besides the fact that it is cold as Santa's balls sometimes. In Florida we have developments ruining old growth centennial live oaks. Development comes in (Florida: ~340 people/ SQ mile) they flatten a lot and cut any and all trees they're allowed too. Developing neighborhoods are a big source of loss of forest/wood land.
@itsmannertime
@itsmannertime 3 жыл бұрын
Navy knows a thing or two about bending some wood
@tykellerman6384
@tykellerman6384 3 жыл бұрын
So that’s what happened to all the white oak
@haroldmcclellan3448
@haroldmcclellan3448 3 жыл бұрын
David you've ben to homedepote
@theedge5584
@theedge5584 3 жыл бұрын
Heck now fiberglass boats are hard to come by
@georgeloyie7456
@georgeloyie7456 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe try looking on the west coast of BC. Lots of glass boats sitting ashore and doing nothing. There's some nice 35ish to 45ish foot Gillnetters with nice hulls. They can be made into very good looking tough and reliable 'live aboards' or convert them to be a pay type fishing boat where you take folks out onto the ocean for salmon fishing. A nice living. With the canadian dollar being weak and people cash hurtin, make up an ad that says, "I've saved up $3000 cash and I am looking for a powered fiberglass boat."
@theonlybuzz1969
@theonlybuzz1969 3 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice if the sellers of the the forests of where the wood was from did sustainable management and replacing 2 for every one cut down, we might be in a better place than we all are now….
@A-FrameWedge
@A-FrameWedge 3 жыл бұрын
Government more efficient than private businesses, I got to call BS on that one.
@bruceobama8588
@bruceobama8588 3 жыл бұрын
Popeye was the Instructor for this course.
@ryangentry8796
@ryangentry8796 3 жыл бұрын
Really...
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