1961 Seeburg AY100U Jukebox Restoration (Part 13 of 87).

[@cparso2391]

John, I have enjoyed your daily videos! Everything is looking good! -Cody

[@joernone]

Cody, Thank you, my friend. I'm very happy to have you here with me. Regards, John

[@ianbutler1983]

John, Really enjoying this series. Please ignore anyone who tells you we'll burn out on your videos. Nonsense! I just wanted to let you know that because of you and your channel, I bought 5 antique tube radios this weekend and I am setting up a workbench this week. I will try to remember your lesson of patience, patience, patience...... Thanks, Ian

[@rciancia]

Ian - just remember.. these things can kill you. Always exercise caution... never do something unless you know how to, and if not, ask.. everyone loves to help. :) Be careful

[@ianbutler1983]

Ron, Thanks. I know the basics of safety from years ago when I was into electronics as a kid. I bought an isolation transformer and I will exercise the appropriate caution. I do appreciate your concern, I feel the same emotion myself when I hear of people who are just beginning a new hobby more hazardous than stamp collecting. The youtube videos involving table saws almost always make me cringe. Thanks again, Ian

[@joernone]

Ian, This is a very fun hobby, my friend. Just never forget that it is a hobby...to enjoyed, like all hobbies. Never let it become overwhelming. I might have to comment on this subject in a future video. Regards, John

[@MsBadders]

Hello John I see this all the time on KZbin. And think how an earth did they dream up this. What ever it is.. Thanks cheers

[@joernone]

I agree, Richard. I wouldn't know where to start. LOL Regards, John

[@gordoncole6989]

Hi John, Looking good! I guess the water won't harm anything! Best to get that mud cleaned off, but you gonna have some real rewiring to do. I hope you got lots of spare wire my friend. Looking forward to the next vid.

[@joernone]

Dawn, Actually, once the wiring was cleaned up it didn't look all that bad. I was happy to see that. But a little dismantling here and there to remove rust will be the biggest headache. Regards, John

[@tommybewick]

Never tried it but I have heard of putting radios in washing machines, only precaution that was given was take off any cardboard coil forms, painted dial glass or other paper type labels etc... looks great John.

[@joernone]

Exactly, right, my friend. A power transformer should also be removed. Regards, John

[@rciancia]

John, another excellent update. That unit looks brand new... very good... and I never doubted your cleaning process... the first time I saw you put a Tuning Capacitor in the sink and clean it I knew I could trust you... LOL Way to go.... so.... whose turn it is for the teeth tonight ? LOL Enjoy your dinner with Wifey..... - regards, Ron

[@joernone]

Ron, I figured folks would freak out over seeing me wash this juke mechanism. Strangely, it didn't happen. On the contrary, many already knew of it. Live and learn, my friend,. Regards, John

[@dynamic881964]

Hi John, Very good progress my friend and yes, that mechanism looks much better cleaned up and I am confident the cleaner and water has not hurt anything. I've seen Drake equipment stripped and run through a dishwasher with no problems once properly dried. In my experience any thing runs better clean than gunked up with 50 plus years of goo. All the best my friend, waiting for the next one ! Dave in Mi. aka KC8YOX ps.... I enjoyed the tale about the older couple in Mc'D's !

[@joernone]

Dave, It's interesting how many folks in our hobby are afraid to wash a chassis for fear it'll blow up. Most have no idea that the procedure goes way back. Thanks, my friend. Regards, John

[@carlpistocco1926]

I enjoy your videos, I look forward to your new videos evernight, you are a great teacher

[@joernone]

Thank you, Carl. I greatly appreciate that, my friend. See you next time. Regards, John

[@RCALivingStereo]

Big difference there John, looking good

[@joernone]

It'll soon be getting a second washing as it still has some crap here and there. Regards, John

[@MsBadders]

Hello John I just learned some thing right there you talked about the transformers, that a smaller version of my isolation. It's the designer that dream up all this. Very clever how this works thanks m8

[@joernone]

Richard, To my notion, designers of old were absolute geniuses. They started with nothing but ideas and made them happen. Regards, John

[@1952banjo]

Enjoyed watching !!

[@joernone]

Thank you, Virginia. Regards, John

[@TheOpenAirGarage]

A lot of thought and engineering went into making this juke box. A lot of moving parts to get into concert with each other. I am sure it will work just fine after the cleaning.

[@joernone]

It amazes me how much though went into it's design. American brain power at its finest. Regards, John

[@THOMMGB]

Hi John, You should keep your eyes open for a small air compressor for your shop. It can make all the difference in the world. I've read accounts of how the military successfully cleaned electronic equipment using soap and water. It apparently works very well, but I'm still kind of shy about doing it myself. Regards, Tom

[@joernone]

Tom, I do have a small compressor, but opted not to use it to dry off the mechanism. Canned air is much gentler,. Gentle is best when one doesn't know what's down in there that could be damaged or disconnected by too much air pressure. Regards, John

[@mspysu79]

It is not only the Military that used such cleaning methods. I have a friends that worked for IBM in Florida in the keyboard repair department. They where repairing the Model F and M keyboards form PC's as well as the similar ones form Mainframe and mid range systems. They had a row of Maytag dishwashers, and the first order of business was to disassemble each keyboard and run it through 2-3 cycles of the dishwasher without the heated dry cycle. They would dry the keyboards out for 48 hours in a low temperature electric oven built to hold the parts, and he said after that 85-90% of the keyboards worked with no further issues.

[@joernone]

That's very good info for folks to know. The key to it all is making sure everything gets completely dried out. Haste will certainly make waste if it isn't done. Regards, John

[@amberola1b]

Well I guess I just learned something new John. I know it sounds like a stupid question but you mean you could theoretically stick a non rusty radio chassis in a dishwasher minus the tubes and it would help clean it right up? I remember seeing bugs put a radio chassis with evap O rust in a bucket and soak it overnight for a few days-and it came out on harmed, but I've never heard of sticking a radio chassis or something like that in a dishwasher. And God I as well haven't heard of top job in years. Didn't know they still made it. That joke you told was just too precious.

[@joernone]

I'll be sure to cover this washing with water subject again in Part 15. Regards, John

[@Darryl603]

Can it determine the order in which the buttons were pushed? Thanks John Thumbs up!

[@joernone]

Darryl, Yes, but the machine selects which record comes first in the rack rather than the order in which the buttons were pressed. Regards, John

[@BretFrohwein]

I know you mentioned this in your video but man that used to annoy the crap out of me when people after me would have their selections play before mine. sometimes I'd have to wait an hour!

[@joernone]

Bret, It still annoys me. LOL Regards, John

[@Darryl603]

Modern jukeboxes have a feature that allows your selection to jump to the top... If you pay more. How annoying is that?

[@BretFrohwein]

BAh.. CD jukeboxes! ;-)

[@BretFrohwein]

Look at that shine! I have friends who put the radio and tv chassis and boards in the dishwasher before they restore and they all work after. would be just my luck something would dissolve.. ;-)

[@joernone]

Bret, I've put more than one radio chassis in wifey's dishwasher. She likes me doing that. LOL Regards, John

[@kenantwine]

Yes John I worked as a technician for a communications company. They used a washer and dryer much like I used, when washing dishes on campus. I have also seen a video when they use to test televisions (while powered on!!! while watching a picture - weirdest thing you ever saw) , by setting them in huge vats of what looked like water. Knowing about electricity, shorts, etc., it would normally scare you to death.

[@joernone]

Ken, Never saw a TV that played while submerged in water. That would be a sight to see. It had to have been something other than H2O, but what? Regards, John

[@kenantwine]

I have no idea what was used. When the color television was being first engineered and designed, they dumped them in big tanks and watched the bubbles, in order to see how the components where being affected by heat an thermal problems. Watching the documentary, I don't remember which company was performing this task. But like you said, it was really something to see. Keep up your good work. Have learned a lot from your channel.

[@tommybewick]

So in my suggested videos from KZbin on the side column of this one there is, "Autopsy 1-Confessions of a medical examiner" I guess that does kind of fit with the autopsy of a seeburg....or was it the dentures?

[@joernone]

Before it's over it'll probably be "Burial of a Seeburg". LOL Regards, John

[@jp040759]

After working on greasy stuff and getting my hands all covered with grease and oil I use Dawn dish washing liquid and that cleans that gunk off almost every time on the first try. I have used baby shampoo also and that stuff works too.

[@joernone]

Dawn has always been a great product, but it suds up too much for this use. A second cleaning using Simple Green should finish the job. Regards, John

[@jp040759]

Good point about Dawn. Simple Green is great stuff too. It works great on stains on clothes too. I always have some on hand.

[@joshsmith210]

i kinda lost it for a minute on the " mcdonalds" ending..im happy im single and wont have to share my fries lol

[@skycarl]

Top Job,,,, that's a cleaner from the old days,,,, You know John, if those toroids are wrapped with different turns, they would charge at different frequencies. Maybe those buttons are a way of selecting different freqs so the record selector can sense the magnetic force and know when to stop. How's that for a theory? lol.

[@joernone]

Carl, Don't know about the frequencies, but the toroids do become magnetized. All I know is that it works...or at least is supposed to work. Time will tell, my friend. LOL Regards, John

[@old64goat]

HEY John, there is no longer a "dollar menu" at McDonald's...LOL I heard that joke last week while sitting with the old guys...LOL I would be Leary about getting water inside the motor, as for washing radios...what about the IF cans?,,,,Hmmmm I will admit John it is looking good.

[@joernone]

Bill, Folks wash radio chassis all the time in their home dishwasher. I've done it many times my self, but the power transformer should first be removed. No problem with AA5s. It hasn't screwed up the IF cans yet. You just have to make sure it's completely dry before reapplying power. Putting it for an hour or so in wifey's kitchen stove oven set at a low temp takes care of that issue. LOL Regards, John

[@Buzz1151]

John..Just drive to the local Conway, Arkansas Car wash and pull it through on your cart...don't forget the wax!!

[@joernone]

Buzz, Better to have a local detail crew do it for me. LOL Regards, John

[@miracledeliverancerevivals]

John. I have a question. kind of off topic but If you test a 4.7 uf capacitor with the one button tester. does it show a really strange looking number on screen ? I'm trying to restore an 80's Mitsubishi turntable. Even the new 4.7's tested funky. The board has like 10 lytics. I'm just going to do them all.

[@joernone]

The tester often has a problem with e-caps. If the cap still has even a tiny residual charge in it you'll get a funky reading. It's probably better to remove the ecaps and use a different tester. Regards, John

[@bones007able]

I have picked up old tube TV's off the curb in pouring rain , brought them home and took the back off and let them dry for about a week, plug em in and they would work , water on the surface won't hurt anything , but sitting in standing water is a different story...only real concern was transformers and speakers...

[@joernone]

I agree completely. But you know...I've never see an old TV sitting at the curb. I must be the world's most unlucky person. Regards, John

[@ladr1550]

Didn't you say that you have a color tv console? If so, I WANT TO SEE IT!

[@joernone]

Yes, I do, but it won't be coming out for quite a while. BTW...why do you not speak in any of your vids? You shouldn't do that. Regards, John

[@ladr1550]

joernone i let the radio do the talking.

[@jime386]

Jane Russel had a record rack

[@joernone]

Jim, Howard Hughes thought so. LOL Regards, John

[@Radiowild]

It's cleaning up nice. BTW.... It's so much less to eat at home! You'd be amazed how many restaurants are around here. I think my cooking tastes better anyway......

[@joernone]

RW, I agree with you. m We don't eat out too often, as I didn't buy a Blackstone Griddle just to look at it. Regards, John

[@Highpoint211]

Some of the people that are worried about you getting that wet should watch some of Shango066's resurrection videos where he's taken old radios and televisions that have been setting out in the weather for 2 or 3 decades and made them work again .

[@joernone]

I saw that one Shango vid where he scarfed up that desert radio and got it playing. No better way to prove a point, eh? LOL regards, John

[@MrBrendog67rat]

washing off all the Cigarette smoke...lol

[@joernone]

Trust me, there was tons of it. The whole juke smelled of cigarettes. The cabinet still does. Regards, John

[@mikedevita7184]

Put ketchup on your buck burger.

[@joernone]

Mike, I like ketchup on many things. It's really good on scrambled eggs. Regards, John

[@umajunkcollector]

just as long as it isn't HEINZ, YUK!

[@AMStationEngineer]

water??????? Virtually "everything electronic", requiring any type of soldering, (displays are an exception), which goes into the most advanced avionics systems on earth, is thoroughly washed in deionized water, to remove even the most minuscule amounts of flux, and/or other corrosive materials used in the assembly process. The "ionic purity" is measured with each deionized water discharge, and the assemblies are accepted only after that rinse water meets a certain purity level. As long as the water used in the cleansing process is not heavily mineralized, and the assembly is thoroughly dried, your efforts will be rewarded with success more often than not.

[@joernone]

Tim, Where have you been, old son? I've been missing you. I figured you were one of the first to bail on my boring drivel. Anyway, it's good to see you here again. Regards, John

[@AMStationEngineer]

Nah, I'm a sucker for "boring drivel"..... Last seven weekends have been spent assisting a friend who was finishing his basement. I've been living in the land of "0 to 10 V LED driver dimming", and "if you think GFCI outlets are expensive, wait until you have to install 6 Arc Fault Circuit Interrupter type breakers". I have now developed a closet addiction to Subway foot-long Italian subs, Weis Market's fried chicken, and dining on a deck overlooking Blue Mountain. For once, I have nothing about which to complain.