1964 TR4 - Part 6 - Crank and Liners Issues

[@RigelStudiosLasVegas]

ELIN!!!! YOUR VIDEOS CAN NEVER BE TOO LONG!!!!! In fact, MAKE THEM LONGER! ...lol :)

[@christopherjohnson6056]

Cam followers Elgin is what we call them 👍👍👍

[@rrittberg]

Not to worry,Elin...keep on rambling because I'm listening to every word,as are most of your fans and viewers.May the New Year be great for you and Happy Holidays!

[@jackn4853]

Videos are never too long Elin. thet are always interesting. It's easy to pause then continue if the viewer needs a break. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you, your family and to everyone everywhere.

[@MisplacedAmerican]

I agree with Jack, no such thing as too long when it comes to Rusty Beauties - I can always pause it and come back. Thanks for the lessons Elin!

[@alexanderduncan4302]

VP is a Vandervell bearing, very high quality but unfortunately difficult to find nowadays. Regards, Sandy 🔧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@infledermaus]

This is fascinating! You really know what you're doing. It seems the engine has seen many better days. Lots of parts to replace. It would be interesting to know the cost of each. I'm hoping some day to own a TR-4. I've love TRs since my sister had one in 1963! I'm retired now, and I have no idea how I could afford one, but I'm not giving up on that dream! Your videos give me hope that I can fix one up. I've worked on my cars since I was 15 so I have some mech experience. Great videos! Not only do I see how to take the engine apart, but you explain what to look for with regards to damage. Thanks for posting! I've leaned a lot!

[@RustyBeauties]

Owning a classic car is expensive... Nope. That is a myth! If you do your own work it is not more expensive than owning a daily driver. What makes it expensive is when you decide to go for all the upgrades and you pay a mechanic to do all the work :) So if you are planning to work on it yourself, you can afford it, I am sure. You can see the cost of the parts on the main suppliers websites - depending on where you are, here are some examples. Moss Motors in California, The Roadster Factory in Pennsylvania, Rimmers Bros in the UK. Google their websites and you can get an idea of the parts cost.

[@keegs3154]

Thanks Elin... Wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and all the best for next year.

[@bobfrankish8883]

Another great video Elin, well done.

[@lordleonusa]

A very interesting video, I have learnt a few things here, mostly I've rebuilt the six cylinder GT6 engines and the smaller 4 cylinder engines, very similar, but slightly different.

[@ralph5338]

Wonderful analysis. You are very thorough and patient person. Thanks for lesson, enjoyed it.

[@tonymarinelli7345]

Thank you for the education. Great video. Thumbs up.

[@itsjustme9318]

Merry Christmas Elin and all the best in "23".......GORD

[@zoomee99]

What a wonderful xmas gift, I'm just tearing into a 66 4A motor, this is such a treasure of great info and experience, thanks so much for sharing. Now I want to get into my frozen garage and start measuring!

[@timpsensky5181]

Don't worry too much about the heater noise, we don't want you to freeze.

[@JohnCarey1963Jag]

I enjoy watching and listening to your procedure on these engine tear downs and rebuilds. Thanks for sharing them.

[@BruceBoschek]

Considering all that, I cannot imagine how that engine was running! It could not have been running on 4 cylinders, in any case. Good that it is now in your hands, Elin! Looking forward to seeing it come together.

[@philipavery8465]

Really enjoying all your videos. Thank you for the close up of the camshaft plus how to measure. Has you make lists of replacements parts needed, I'm making a list of measuring instruments I need to do the job correctly. I learn so much from watching all your videos both Metalwork and Mechanical. So much appreciated sometimes I revisit many times just to refresh the way to do or what is needed.

[@paulmcnair8106]

Always impressed with your patience and tenacity. Thank you and God Bless.

[@leewilliams4541]

Hi Elin. Listening to your comment about your heater have you heard of a diesel air heater? Might to cheaper and quieter to heat your workshop. Have a great Christmas.

[@iceman9678]

That spiral channel on the crack shaft and seal are essentially an Archimedes pump.

[@llmikeyj1]

Some good analysis there! Very informative, thanks.

[@alanvinegar5729]

A great lesson in engine analysis. Keep them coming!!!!

[@pda49184]

A masterclass in accurate measurements. I'm still struggling to figure how the engine was functioning 🤔😂

[@davidberlanny3308]

Great step by step strip down and analysis. I couldn't detect any problems with the sound, so don't freeze yourself on our behalf!! I've never seen liners replaced before, I'm guessing they will be a press fit, look forward to seeing you tackle this as the rebuild advances. Have a great Christmas Elin and family Feliz Navidad and good luck from Spain!!

[@johnmoruzzi7236]

I think the weak oil pump didn’t lubricate the cylinders, or anything else really… I’m not sure if a backfire could cause such a bent pushrod and shattered tappet but it doesn’t look like a valve or rocker jammed ?

[@garypeatling7927]

These three bearing crank engines if revved wore cranks because crank flexes , that why all modern engines are 5 bearing

[@johnmoruzzi7236]

@@garypeatling7927 Yes but parts of the engine were clearly rebuilt and are now prematurely worn... it doesn't look like a track car.

[@ralphcap2476]

Great job do you guys think that a machine shop goes through the process that Elin does to see what actually is going on with the motor.

[@markdaugherty6378]

Wow what a surprise, I agree how the heck was that thing running.

[@cheftush]

First…lots of issues found for sure!

[@carbidegrd1]

British parts Northwest has valve seats, 9 US a piece.

[@omphaloskeptic4989]

Another great video, Elin! Amazing that car drove in under its own power. This is a 'chicken or the egg' question - What do you think happened first; the broken tappet, or the bent push rod? Perhaps a better question is what caused the 'first' failure to begin with? Is the broken tappet's bore damaged/scored? Is it possible that a bit of silicone plugged the push rod oil passage? What do the end faces of the bent push rod look like; do they look like they were 'oil starved'? Since you found bits of silicone in the pan, should the block have the oil gallery plugs removed and reamed to clear any debris? "Inquiring minds want to know!" lol

[@christopheclement62]

super travail !

[@robertharrison9248]

Good video! Time for an upgrade? Moss has a set of performance 89mm pistons and liners and an nice road cam for not a lot more $$ investment?

[@Ryan67rs]

Great video! You explain and show what you are doing in very good detail. Where will you order the parts from? I have a TR3 engine to rebuild. This will be very helpful. Thanks, Ryan.

[@MisplacedAmerican]

Elin, I feel like you are my professor (and I'm nearly as old as the cars you are breathing new life into) one question based on this video (and totally ok if you can't answer) - when bidding for work, do you estimate based on what you expect (like a fixed price bid), what you find (pay by the drink) or the "Elin" quote :-)? Based on this, I would guess it is both - you "estimate" and then give a final when you order parts - if that is the case, what do you do when things get WAY out between estimate and actual? ***Knowing full fell this is a tough question but would appreciate how you think it should be done fairly.

[@daveandrews5861]

Hi Elin, given that No1 had been knocking, wouldn't it be a good idea to check the conrod for ovality.

[@alastairwatson3201]

Might Standard refer to the company that bought out Triumph in the mid 1940s? Here’s a link to Wikipedia’s entry on the Standard Motor Company: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Motor_Company.

[@johnmoruzzi7236]

Most components on the 60s and 70s cars were stamped ‘Stanpart’.

[@johnfalkenstine8377]

All of the combustion chambers are too dark

[@philtucker1224]

Those bore diameters are pretty big for a British car Elin, what capacity is the Tr4 engine?

[@johnmoruzzi7236]

2.0 litres or 2.2… this one will be 2.2

[@mikestrang6229]

it is bad practice to run new valve and lap worn seats . grind the seats and new valves that is the right way.

[@johnsharonwhitaker9242]

agree with Mike - but why not install hardened seats so you can run unleaded ?

[@jamcdona]

Do an Alfa engine next! I know a guy that has one right now... ;)

[@pbysome]

What does :three ten thousandths mean?

[@graemelliott3942]

0.0003” or a really small slice of one inch😂

[@pbysome]

@@graemelliott3942 so it's three thou then, not three ten thousandths.where does the ten thousandths come from? IV been measuring very small parts of one inch for the best part of 40years never heard it termed in that way.🤪

[@graemelliott3942]

@@pbysome 0.003” is three thousands. 0.0003” is three ten thousands. 0.003” could also be 30 ten thousands I never really heard of engine measurements going into the ten thousands only in the thousands. That is super tight tolerances

[@pbysome]

@@graemelliott3942 three tenths of a thousandth??

[@graemelliott3942]

@@pbysome yes!

[@pbysome]

A minimum of aluminium!

[@lordleonusa]

I don't like 4 ring pistons, they are much weaker than 3 ring pistons and suitable for low compression engines only.

[@rickdaniel8478]

Zoom zoom 😀

[@Welder-y5x]

silicone sucks.

[@gordonblank6845]

Elin, I still want to know how that engine brought the car to your shop 🥸🎅