1970's Stereogram - Part 2 - Garrard 2025T Record Player

[@kieronr1]

Mark you have the balls of a Bengali tiger. It takes a brave man to strip one of those down and get them to work like you do. Pure magic.

[@mikemorgan4774]

It's one thing to take it apart, but it's a whole other class of fellow with the patience and memory to reassemble it as it should be. You Sir are in a unique class of humans. Well done!

[@gdj6298]

One more good reason to video it ! :-)

[@adrinathegreat3095]

If you are filming it you just rewatch the footage and put everything back in order. Not like in the old days, these 25 minute or hour videos were done over a day, then edited

[@mamaschronicles3244]

I'd say he's done it a few times

[@benhumphrys1656]

Well, I have learned from that this is an exercise I could probably never do myself. I'm the type of guy who always ends up with a missing washer and two extra screws and a spring left over just after changing a battery. You have a remarkable memory of physical relationships between mechanical component parts, Mark.

[@TomLeg]

Blame Ikea

[@lelys1018]

Currently working on the exact same model the 2025 T and man I am so happy I have found this video. Thanks Man! 😅

[@dab9742]

14:30 Inscription 77 on the magnetic coil side 15:38 to reassembly on the opposite side ! 😁 Well done for this beautiful renovation ! 😉

[@johnallen8680]

Mark is a brave man ! All those scary levers and springs 😮 Makes you think "It will never work again !"

[@fillo1971]

C'è qualcosa che nel tuo laboratorio non hai? Praticamente hai tutto per qualsiasi riparazione. Sei un grande

[@nisiunavoce1264]

First period Garrard to not require an idler wheel replacement or conditioning. Those were notorious for drying out. Another very interesting video.

[@jennajobasiaz5559]

The Garrard's made to KLH's specifications were some of the best ever made. My uncle has over a dozen, excellent machines.

[@tgxperience]

Mark is the Bob Ross of electronics repair videos.

[@eolhcytoos]

Just stumbled across your channel. I love these informative programmes showing how to repair vintage electronics. I have enjoyed the fe that I have watched and have subscribed to it. Thanks😀

[@pedrobarrazacenteno1966]

Excelente maestro, saludos desde Chorrillos Lima Perú.

[@Super8Rescue]

Garrard are the best. I stripped a RC120 4Ha over one weekend. I had the best time doing that. I love your channel. Cheers

[@gargunza4141]

The 2025tc was featured on the front cover of the very first issue of Popular HiFi, back in April 1971. (What a memory!)

[@arnereiersen7383]

Will attempt to service my own 2025 after seeing your vid! Will use sewing machine oil, and white lithium grease. Can't wait to hear it play right again!

[@arnoldkinny2381]

Mark you are brave man how u. can do all types of electronic repair. I have,not seen defore .may god bless you

[@HowardKlein1958]

God i've done this so many times. SP25's 2025's etc Usually have to clean off old grease that's gone hard under autochange wheel and speed change mechanism. Lots of turntables won't come off spindle and need heat from soldering iron to free off. Enjoyable working on old Garrard's.

[@precbass]

Just found this channel.I like your presenting style.Subscribed.

[@piggybladder]

Very helpful Mark. I just bought 2 which were sold for parts/not working but actually have all the parts. I noticed @9.20 you've got a part missing. See the friction spring plate 'triangle'? There should be a brass washer/spacer under the bottom right corner of the triangle. It should sit around the little rivet(?) head on the plate underneath. This part is present on both of mine, one of which is Garrard badged. The other is Marconiphone badged.

[@TheoGeorge-y3y]

Thanks I was wondering why I had brass washer/spacer left over

[@jameskolar9655]

Very interesting. I enjoyed that. Thank you.

[@mikemark9245]

Thank you so much. It was So helpful!🙏🏻

[@esseker6320]

Love watching things like this as I used to do the same thing.

[@tomraulinavich8569]

I happen to have the same one never used in a box my Dad purchased in the 60’s.

[@EsotericArctos]

Good idea to find a new stylus as the 78RPM side is a thicker tip than the microgroove used for 45 and 33 records. Looking forward to seeing the rest of this one. Luckily, watching it a year late, I can binge on it :)

[@MrBill844]

Hi Mark, a very nice job, I"ll give you another name to call all those clips you took off and on, In the States we call them "C Clamps"......

[@Rudi-Mhz]

Nice Job on the Cabin. !!!!

[@stephenchecksfield632]

Brilliant informative video mark many years ago I had a Hacker Gondalia GP42 record player with the same Garrard 2025TC autochanger deck it was a brilliant record player with rich sound and good build quality when they are in good condition I think in my humble opinion that Garrard autochangers are superior to Bsr decks 👍

[@outfield1988]

Beautiful piece

[@hw4527]

Thank you for posting 👍👍

[@stephen579]

I would have thought that even 4 grams are still too heavy, but it is an unsophisticated piece of equipment from a time when we used to put a penny on the arm to stop it from skipping.

[@rastaman5105]

Good job to lubricate that recordplayer !!

[@wedthurfri]

the design is genius

[@giggling_boatswain]

It would be nice to lubricate both motor bearings and axis of the rubber roller. It is the top bearing that is under the most stress. I have to say that alcohol doesn't work as well with old thickened non-petroleum products like grease. A carburetor cleaner (spray), solvent, acetone or gasoline is better here. Alcohol is good for cleaning decorative panels, grease from fingers on buttons, but not for removing technical greases - it simply does not chemically dissolve them.

[@piggybladder]

Xylene is your friend.

[@4evaclapham]

16.48 the brown washer should go on the bottom of the Idler wheel post and the clear plastic washer should go on the top

[@piggybladder]

Absolutely right. The brown washer goes on the bottom to absorb and hold a tiny bit of oil.

[@geoffisaac3511]

I like your casual style

[@edsonteixeirafilho2965]

Fantastic! Very well!!

[@babysarma]

Thank you very much for the detailed Garrard turn table model 2025 T service video. I also have one with me but it failed to run. I hope I can get the same serviced with the help of the video.

[@jacqueliner7585]

Phenomenal ❤

[@Rondo2ooo]

What I found remarkable is that the inner cutting from that wooden platform has loose wood fibers on the edges. No sanding. I am wondering if that was the original quality.

[@wedthurfri]

i once took apart to service the same deck, its still a pile of parts in my bedroom 3 years on

[@TheFlyingBusman]

I do rather like working on the old Garrard and BSR decks. Complicated but simple if that makes sense. The grease is just par for the course. Always have a few rags to hand. I find on really gunky ones the cam plate pivot can work loose and once cleaned often needs peening back over. Last one I did was on an early 70’s GEC music centre and worked lovely once done. Always nice to get a good supple idler wheel as often they are concrete hard with horrid flat spots though I’ve found on rare idlers, a spin in the a lathe to take the diameter down a tad and gluing a square section O ring on works to good effect.

[@piggybladder]

Printer roller rubber reviving spray revives hard idler wheels really well. Spray up and pop in a zip lock bag for a couple of days. Comes out like new.

[@MaharashtraLp750]

Sir, you are jenius, and and your video your talent very very,,,,,,,,,

[@TomLeg]

Had a similar record player in the 60s. Curious how you keep track of which circlip came from where. And also about your grease and machine oil

[@olledahlquist3784]

What kind of lube/grease do you use? Will it work with lithium lube or standard sewing machine oil?

[@Pokaroo25]

Hi Mark! Great video! I purchased myself a Garrard 2025TC last summer and have a couple issues that need resolving. The tone arm stops about 3/4 of the way, I seemed to have found the issue but don’t know how to resolve it. Any chance you have a video or some insight for me?? Thanks in advance :)

[@larryshaver3568]

that changer is very similar to a model30 with came out in 1968

[@adriennevasquez6616]

At 1:50 there was a removal of a silvery plate. I have removed the C-clip as done up to this point, but the plate does not slide up-it’s stick tight. Any tips?

[@MendItMark]

It will be seized up with dried out grease. I would try adding Isopropyl Alcohol (IPA) to the spindle where the circlip came from. Also try warming it up with hot air. Does it rotate at all? It should. If not also try twisting back and forwards. A combination of all of the above, and some brute force will get it off. 😊

[@pcno2832]

23:25 Maybe someone was using it for dance parties and wanted to make sure no vibrations would dislodge the stylus. Or maybe someone just took it apart and wasn't quite sure how to put that spring back.

[@janinapalmer8368]

Of all the tools and gizmos you have there I'm very surprised you don't have ( or maybe lost..!) a pair of circlip removal pliers ... oh and by the way the Technics SL1210 you worked on doesn't have any form of platter retention clips and you MUST remove it before you turn the deck upside down ... you failed to point that out .... I say this because I've got an SL1214Mk2 and I tipped it upside down to change the audio output cables and the platter fell off and it smashed the ferrite motor magnet !!! Expensive repair job that !!!

[@piggybladder]

Circlip pliers don't work on most of these circlips. You can't get the nibs into the slots. I've tried.

[@janinapalmer8368]

@@piggybladder I had that problem too ... after looking around more I found a pair of cheapies with interchangeable arms with smaller nibs .. and they had 90° bends or straight...

[@alessandroperez3741]

you are fantastic

[@user-rs7yn5tu1o]

Any suggestions on where I can get a needle for a Garrard 2025tc?

[@tinabrosnahan7509]

Mark can you help I have a pye cambridge gramaphone and the needle on it is broke. It's a gerrard 2025 model where could I buy a needle for it please 😢🫶🙏

[@peterlajer5955]

Hi Mend It Mark is it a bad idea to lubricate with silicone grease I know it doesn't solidify like the Oily grease.!!! but you just have to make sure it doesn't get on the rubber wheel that drives the recod plate but or the rubber bushings that hold the motor is good and give silicone oil because then they won't clear, I'd like to hear your comment?? jeg har garrard sp25 med armen med kontravægt og magnet picup deamond neagel nice old turntablebut the one I have is the original pickup arm replaced but one from B&O sp arm so you can put the black beak sp 6-7 pickup on there is a former watch dealer who has owned it which was quite finger easy

[@christianrichardson5251]

I pulled the housing off the needle arm. How can I get it back in place?

[@jaymiller4006]

Great vid. I have one but the speed selector is stuck. I can get 33, 45 and 78 though not 16 as the lever system is hitting against the plastic top. somehow it is not calibrated correctly as it plays 33 but pointing on the 45 position, same is true for the other speeds. has anyone any help, i would really appreciate it. thank you

[@azmoz1321]

Great video , very educational :-) in an easy watch way I’m guessing semifluid grease is the recommended lube ( messy stuff ) How didn’t you loose any of those circlips or was the footage of you on your hands and knees with a magnet on the cutting room floor

[@lenco5994]

hi again, the music stereo system with the garrard 2025t on came without any speakers when i got it. its stated that required a pair with 15ohm or greater, however, i am not able to access any speakers with such high impedance around. what i can do? please advise.

[@lexijohnson2000]

Hi! I just purchased a Garard 2025T and it is missing the stylus. This is my first go at fixing up this sort of thing. Do you have a recommendation as to which stylus I should buy?

[@ossianhaufe4671]

Where I can find part 1? I wonder how you are able to fix everything 🤔

[@paul-lj2ot]

I enjoy your videos. how often are you online? I am a subscriber but am not receiving any messages

[@HansDelbruck53]

Love Mark's videos, but one thing I've noticed is that he calls a single scale a "scales" (plural).

[@ladronsiman1471]

I have another Garrard model ,Very similar .But i just noticed that ,The big timing wheel is metal ,bit in mine is plastic ,,And they become brittle l with time

[@wedthurfri]

only a god can make circlips fall by their feet

[@lenco5994]

one more question about the audio output, the original was with 2-2 pin din male for speakers on the stereo music system, how can i change it to something else like RCA?

[@MendItMark]

For speaker plugs, 1/4” Jack plugs might be better. They use them on guitar amps a lot. You can buy the plugs loose. Just cut the old speaker plugs off, and solder the Jack plugs on. Polarity isn’t too important, as long as you do the same for each speaker. (Although by convention, the sleeve part should be electrical ground).

[@lenco5994]

@@MendItMark thank you for your suggestion. however, i wanna see if possible to change the 2-2 pin din male on a music stereo system?

[@gabifairley1579]

Hi there, i recently bought a stunning unit with one of these in. but i was gutted to learn from a guy in the shop i went to buy the new stylus from, that this cant play your classic/modern vinyls. only the much harder 78's. do you know if this is definitely true? gutted if so thank you

[@MendItMark]

I say you can play everything on them, if they are set up correctly. If your stylus only says 78 on it, you shouldn’t really put a 45 or LP on there. However, if it has 33/45 marked on it, you’re good to go with newer vinyl. You can always change the cartridge for one that does have the 33rpm stylus available… I’ve had these tracking perfectly with low tone arm pressure (about 4 grams), which is fine. Probably a good idea to get one of those tone arm scales to see how far off it is. (they are cheap enough). I think the ‘harder 78’s’ are a requirement for gramophones. If you check out my Gilbert Gramophone video out, you’ll see what I mean! Have fun, and enjoy your records!

[@richardbudagowski6527]

Hi Mark I’m putting together a system of one amp, two tape decks, one tuner and a turntable. I’m hoping to pay a visit to your area and was wondering if you could take on the fixes and service on my systems. I love your contents and you’re expert opinion .

[@billwoods9302]

Garrard turntables from the vintage era are sought after to this day by audiophiles, especially the 301. They simply nailed the design of a high performance, analog audio component in the early years of the UK's classic audio golden age. I've seen old Garrard turntables with rebuilt plinths selling for tens of $thousands on high end audio sites.

[@Russ1007]

Great video mate, can I ask for your help, I've tried to take the large grey plate off for the auto and its not budging, in the video you just lift it straight off after removing the clip, I don't want to add to much force, any feedback would be much appreciated, its for my 80 Yr old dad.the player is playing fine on manual I just can't get it to self load with auto

[@piggybladder]

Apply a soldering iron with at least a 4mm tip. Should take about 5 mins. Even better (quicker) is a gas iron with a torch tip.

[@Russ1007]

@piggybladder thanks for the info, I got it sorted with a hair dryer, 😀 my 80yr old dad is over the moon he's got his 1973 radiogram working again with all his old vinyls,

[@hrothgar014]

Was it raining when you did this? Sounds like the patter of rain on the roof of your shop.

[@enricomifsud5675]

I found it hard to pull out the cam wheel. How can I take it out ?

[@MendItMark]

Heat the cam wheel at the centre to soften the old grease. Hot air is best, but if you need to use a gas torch, it should be okay. They’re made of good materials, No plastics on that mechanism!

[@enricomifsud5675]

@@MendItMark Is there any other solution instead of a gas torch ?

[@MendItMark]

@@enricomifsud5675 you could also hold a soldering iron against the centre. It doesn’t really matter how you heat it. You could also try to soften it with a solvent like isopropyl alcohol .. although do note that it is flammable.

[@mikebe2090]

@@enricomifsud5675use a hairdryer

[@lenco5994]

hi, got this garrard 2025T. however, the auto was not working at all. felt nothing was being done with the mechanism when pushing the switch to AUTO. should i need to dismantle every parts like what you did in the video?

[@MendItMark]

The faults are usually from dried out grease. I personally prefer to strip them down, as it doesn’t take too long. Recommend taking plenty of photos, if you haven’t done one before. However, somebody commented that they submerge the whole mechanism in a bath of alcohol. Can’t remember how they went about re-lubrication. Have a scroll through the comments.

[@karlreinke9653]

You didn’t clean the rubber drive idler wheel.

[@larryshaver3568]

have you ever worked on a Magnavox changer i am trying to put one back together but i need to watch someone who really knows how first

[@eduardodaracdjian3007]

👍👍👏👏👏👏👏

[@skryz1]

4.3g é demasiado,tem de ser no máximo 2 a 2,5g no tracking force!!

[@DenHarrowYoutube]

👍

[@janedoe6350]

Wow, you make a lot of work for yourself. I have serviced many of these over the years.. Safety first! You should be wearing gloves to avoid oil/skin contact. I usually just remove platter and bearings, the idler wheel, and the cam drive cog. Flood the mechanism with IPA top and bottom (working it in with with a paint brush and tooth brush), re grease and also use a little sewing machine oil for the hard to reach parts & you'r good to go. Even if some of the mechanism is frozen, it soon works it's way free once you cycle it a few times. Motor can be re lubed institute. 15min job. I see you are in it for the entertainment rather than servicing for a living. Anyway, have fun!

[@josehugobarrerasanchez8350]

Estas si son TORNAMESAS de las buenas PESADOTAS, que vale la pena arreglarlas, lo único que no me agrada son las poleas, la negra de transmision para el plato y la del motor " ESTAN MUUUY DELGADAS" eso proporciona poca fuerza de movimiento que con el tiempo disminuye y después ya no gira el plato 🤔🤔

[@richardlowery7517]

Mark I have Zenith Transoceanic and I had them serviced but they just don't pick up signals like they used to.What do you charge to make them new again?I live in the United States,in Akron Ohio

[@johnwakefield3141]

Hey Phil when's your next solo album out,oh no your in a wheelchair at the moment aren't you sorry.

[@shanenorman7262]

Bollocks! Hahahahaha exquisite English..

[@derekmillar318]

I would have that sad excuse for a record deck binned ...the quality sound? Oh no no....i would upgrade to a belt drive with a magnetic cartridge it would be so much better....and kinder to your vinyls...and yes make a small pre amp for the cartridge....the results would be far superior to those abysmal bsr/garrard decks ....

[@Stuff-i-Like]

Rough

[@MikeGervasi]

Not sure what you're calling the clips. SOUNDS like "circlet". We call them "Jesus" clips as in "JESUS, there it goes"

[@singhjobim9719]

Every time I've seen Garrard turntable consoles the cabinet was falling apart. Absolute garbage.

[@mamaschronicles3244]

Uhhhh Nah!

[@Stuff-i-Like]

too rough to watch

[@GaitaPonto]

these record player's mechanisms are probably the ugliest and cheapest looking, less elegant pieces of machinery ever designed by mankind. They look cheap with all those stamped metal, strangely shaped parts, badly finished pot metal gears and cams. Besides that, they are greasy, make awful springy and metallic noises and count on primitive sliding and pivoting connections with plenty of metal on metal friction, ridiculous springs and circlips that fly and disappear when you try to remove them and belts and rollers that will eventually disintegrate and make things even worse...I know, I know, they do the job and work most of the time but I can`t avoid hating them with all my forces. we could`ve done better! 🙄 I feel like this since I was a kid and dismantled my first Victrola (or some relative from Philips or whatever) and it feels good to remove this from my system.

[@automatedelectronics6062]

The Garrard 2025T is a "Record Changer" NOT a turntable or record player.

[@esseker6320]

Still a record player.

[@musicnerd72]

Record changers are record players that use a turntable to rotate the record. How hard is that to understand?

[@automatedelectronics6062]

@@musicnerd72 Sure, a record changer plays records, but a record changer automatically changes records, that it why it isn't called a turntable. How hard is that to understand?

[@luislm1000]

Hello from Spain, I need help with my garrard! I don’t know the order of the conexion of the 4 colors of the capsule :(

[@baboononskates]

Why isn’t mark working on spaceships to Mars 🚀