1979 Grand Mosque Massacre - Forgotten History

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FORGOTTEN HISTORY

FORGOTTEN HISTORY

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@geneballay9590
@geneballay9590 17 күн бұрын
Very interesting, well researched and well presented. I lived / worked in Saudi Arabia 1992 - 2002 and had just assumed the prevailing strict religious code of conduct had always been in place, not realizing it was tied to the Grand Mosque massacre (which I knew about but just had not connected). Your channel is outstanding, I have learned so much, about so many things.
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 17 күн бұрын
Thank you kindly
@borninvincible
@borninvincible 11 күн бұрын
Watch out because the facts start getting twisted and his biases begin to creep in. Example: the Trump, Biden, and Palestine videos.
@vahaneloyan
@vahaneloyan 11 күн бұрын
Saudi Arabia was modernizing before this massacre happened and i think the Iranian revolution also played a role in shaping Saudi Arabia religious rule.
@garlickebagg
@garlickebagg 11 күн бұрын
​@@borninvincible Consider the source, consider your motivation.
@PrideofIpplepen
@PrideofIpplepen 10 күн бұрын
The strict religious code of conduct WAS in place before the assault on the Mosque in Mecca - I lived in Saudi Arabia before the Mosque attack and the rules were already in place and being enforced prior to the attack in Mecca.
@KevinDoyle-r1w
@KevinDoyle-r1w 11 күн бұрын
Very good docu, No loud crappy music, no sound effects that belong in children's cartoons, just good wholesome info
@evanpetelle5669
@evanpetelle5669 9 күн бұрын
He produces solid content. Check his video on the attack on USS Liberty
@iconiclust
@iconiclust 10 күн бұрын
So the dude imitated Muhammad’s example and the other Muhammadans gave into his demands cause they knew he had an Islamic point and then swept it all under the rug as Islam teaches? Shocker.
@SawsanYasen-nu5vo
@SawsanYasen-nu5vo 6 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 U r 🤡🤡 ignorant
@Krafanio
@Krafanio 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, pretty much.
@zekemedia1310
@zekemedia1310 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for covering this subject. It brings back many memories. I lived and worked in Suq al Jum'aa, Libya in the late 1960's and early 1970's. I travelled and worked in many places in the Middle East and North Africa . I do appreciate your videos.
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for your insight
@user-ev8lv2rk8i
@user-ev8lv2rk8i 6 күн бұрын
Cool. Suq Al juma is still the same as then
@corriehordyk3342
@corriehordyk3342 5 күн бұрын
We forget so quickly. We are unable to think critically and are no longer taught history and therefore repeat it over and over.
@ShmirchikArt
@ShmirchikArt 8 күн бұрын
They've been fighting forever, islam breeds that behavior. Nothing to see here
@goetzdushlan1392
@goetzdushlan1392 3 күн бұрын
You never heard of Catholic V Protestants?
@hamodalbatal464
@hamodalbatal464 3 күн бұрын
@@goetzdushlan1392 Catholic and Protestants for for like 300 years and the now in peace, not 1400 years like Islam against the world and against itself till this very moment.
@Issacandjacob
@Issacandjacob 2 күн бұрын
@@goetzdushlan1392bruh we weren’t having civil wars. And even now Catholics, Protestants and orthodoxs all can somewhat get along, Shias and Sunnis are still murdering each other in droves today.
@Ghjkoplokkp
@Ghjkoplokkp 2 күн бұрын
Maybe the problem is you with your hate
@sherlockgnomes8971
@sherlockgnomes8971 2 күн бұрын
@@goetzdushlan1392show me a single war zone where Catholics are killing Protestants? Whereas Syria and Iraq has had millions of Sunni v Shiah killing each other…
@FOX007-um1wr
@FOX007-um1wr 13 күн бұрын
My favorite channel. I learn so much about history I never knew or had forgotten. Thank you.
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@jackryder-sw9rk
@jackryder-sw9rk 6 күн бұрын
Ah the religion of peace in full display.
@PrideofIpplepen
@PrideofIpplepen 10 күн бұрын
An important point to make is that the Saudis are Sunni Muslims - the Iranians are Shia Muslims and the Mosque attackers were from the Saudi Eastern Province and were also Shia Muslims. No coincidence there and not mentioned in the video but a very important issue then and now in the region.
@chrissmith3509
@chrissmith3509 8 күн бұрын
It's also important to note they're all the same wherever they go.
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx 6 күн бұрын
@@chrissmith3509 Religious adherents, true. Whenever anyone takes faith seriously, bad things happen - whether that's to children or to followers of other faiths or none.
@billisaac326
@billisaac326 6 күн бұрын
@@PrideofIpplepen When you consider the two branches are killing each other at every oppotunity and its not even mentioned is puzzling.
@mrmr446
@mrmr446 6 күн бұрын
The attackers weren't Shia they were convinced the ruling house wasn't promoting Salafism enough and widespread corruption.
@vahaneloyan
@vahaneloyan 5 күн бұрын
@@PrideofIpplepen that’s why they were talking about the Mahdi. I don’t remember that detail.
@johncloptop1585
@johncloptop1585 11 күн бұрын
The SAUDI solution to radical Islam, was more Islam. 😳
@theseeingeye454
@theseeingeye454 11 күн бұрын
And to export the radical Whahhabism sect of Islam to masques in Europe thus relieving the fundamentalist pressure at home.
@generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895
@generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895 11 күн бұрын
@@theseeingeye454theyre definitely in league with the left, letting em in and promotion of the “peace”. They do the same where the solution to gov/socialism is more gov and socialism
@vahaneloyan
@vahaneloyan 9 күн бұрын
@@johncloptop1585 the biggest mistake they made.
@allengordon6929
@allengordon6929 8 күн бұрын
The worst thing the Saudis ever did was convince the west that they were the one true islam
@ShubhamMishrabro
@ShubhamMishrabro 8 күн бұрын
They exported it to Afghanistan and all of south asia which led to it becoming hotspot of terrorism ​@@theseeingeye454
@ChetManley_SuperSpy
@ChetManley_SuperSpy 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing this piece of history with us! Keep up the great work!
@randybounds2244
@randybounds2244 11 күн бұрын
This truly was Forgotten History for me Colin , I had Forgotten all about this. Thanks
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 11 күн бұрын
You're very welcome
@zachs.murray6003
@zachs.murray6003 10 күн бұрын
I have no love for Islam. However what happened to these poor people just wanting to practice their faith IS and WAS horrible!
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx 6 күн бұрын
Bear in mind that those who 'just want to practise their faith' also insist on forcing their children to do so.
@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472
@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472 4 күн бұрын
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx interesting comment when paired with your pfp
@zachs.murray6003
@zachs.murray6003 3 күн бұрын
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx as do all religions and faiths. That's how you pass it on, so to speak.
@zachs.murray6003
@zachs.murray6003 3 күн бұрын
@@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472 well, it's not an Islamic reference. And I love history, regardless.
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx 3 күн бұрын
@@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472 Supporting liberation for the Palestinian people from Zionist oppression does not have to mean wanting another Muslim state.
@shaneflannigan7919
@shaneflannigan7919 9 күн бұрын
What about the Christians slaughtered right now in Africa by Muslims. Why is this not talked about?
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
Maybe because we have not done a video on it
@colincampbell4261
@colincampbell4261 4 күн бұрын
Maybe because they are black chriistians, sad.
@JJDelft
@JJDelft 3 күн бұрын
"Forgotten HISTORY" and "right now" don't really go together, you understand that right?
@shaneflannigan7919
@shaneflannigan7919 3 күн бұрын
@@JJDelft This is a HISTORICAL issue. You do get that right?
@JJDelft
@JJDelft 3 күн бұрын
​@@shaneflannigan7919You're talking about a current event, so although it can be seen as a historical event, it's not history. Otherwise every current event could be talked about on history channels which kinda dilutes the concept of a history channel. Next to that it's just weird behaviour to complain about it. Imagine a video about 9/11 and you comment "why aren't you talking about the 2004 attack in Spain?". A video about Palestina and Israel and you respond "why aren't you talking about Kosovo?". Well, because that's not the topic of the video.
@SpaceCowboy-u7j
@SpaceCowboy-u7j 12 күн бұрын
5st! The 70s were a wild time for massacres. Cambodia, Jonestown, München… _THIS._
@contact594
@contact594 8 күн бұрын
every decade...
@hamodalbatal464
@hamodalbatal464 9 күн бұрын
This is not only a forgotten history actually it’s deliberately being covered up and forbidden to be taught in schools or discussed publicly in Arabia
@VisibletoAllUsersonYoutu-zq3mw
@VisibletoAllUsersonYoutu-zq3mw 4 күн бұрын
It is literally on tv channels in arabia
@hamodalbatal464
@hamodalbatal464 3 күн бұрын
@@VisibletoAllUsersonYoutu-zq3mw first I was born here and had my full life and education exactly where it happened. No2. We didn’t even knew it happened till I was almost in university and only through a rebellion teacher. No3. When Jihiman story happened in KSA if someone even whispered his name that they got a severe sentences. No4. The only reason they started talking about it right now is because the crown prince MBS want to put an end to Wahhabism and to political Islam influence in the Saudi Arabia.
@thetamimi
@thetamimi 2 күн бұрын
انت كذاب، أنا مولود ب١٩٩٤ وداري عن الحادثة و أنا عمري ٨ سنوات. هذا غير الكتب و الوثائقيات و المقالات المنشورة و المقابلات. سالفة انك انت دالغة غافل ما دريت عن السالفة إلا في الجامعة فهذا مب مقياس و لا دليل. نظام اللي استعطف العلج الأبيض عشان يرحمني ترا ما درا عنك و لا بينفعك و لا راح يسوي لك شيء آخر حده انه يقول "أنا آسف لك" هذا غير تكوين صورة سيئة عن البلد و عن الشعب اللي بيقابلهم يعني لا ال سعود متضررين و لا البلد بيضعف اقتصادها فيرحم امك خلك حصيف و إلا تلايط.
@RussellJamesStevens
@RussellJamesStevens 6 күн бұрын
Religion and politics...2 man made curses on mankind
@lifeontheX
@lifeontheX 11 күн бұрын
I was going to make a relevant comment, but the evil robot algorithm threatened me with KZbin jail, so this is all I can do.
@walcoman
@walcoman 11 күн бұрын
Know what you mean, but if your comment is relevant and not defamatory? Don't feel threatened by being sentenced to a day or two from KZbins comment section. Been there multiple times. 😊
@davidmiller4078
@davidmiller4078 7 күн бұрын
Keep expressing your thoughts and observations dude as long as you are polite and use documented data to support what you may say they cant touch you like all fascists far left communists or alledged far tight nazis they relay on fear to do the job of silencing people who point out the obvious facts which the large manority of us are already knowing
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
They try and get us also.
@Justiceinmypictures
@Justiceinmypictures 12 күн бұрын
Love your videos brother, I was reading about this story, and you made a visual for it, I love it. Thank you, you cover a lot of interesting topics.
@SusScrofaVulgaris
@SusScrofaVulgaris 10 күн бұрын
Religions arn't all the same. Christianity is the truth and leads to a better future.
@agnelomascarenhas8990
@agnelomascarenhas8990 9 күн бұрын
1648 Peace of Westphalia, by the time this set of treaties were signed ⅓ of Germans were killed in strife between Protestants and Catholics. Catholics couldn't aspire to American leadership until 50 years ago or so. Slavery, Women's rights, 3rd Crusade attacking Byzantine, Baltic crusades by Teutonic knights ....
@Geoffzilla
@Geoffzilla 3 күн бұрын
Then, don't use the devil's technology. Get off the internet, and take your filthy lies with you.
@samgyeopsal569
@samgyeopsal569 3 күн бұрын
How can your prove that?
@neddyseagoon9601
@neddyseagoon9601 2 күн бұрын
​@@samgyeopsal569in amongst the crappy wars that involved Christians, (not all were religious wars, especially in the last 200 years), it cannot be disputed that the majority of modern life exists solely from the efforts of inventions and discoveries made by those, often agnostic, within Christian nations that had long permitted discussion and dispute, often in contradiction of the various Church styles... The areas that Islam invaded began to decline as a innovators when the book became much more important than advancing into the future... Christians claimed that scientists and theoreticians were heretics in the 1300s and for a while afterwards until protestantism pushed back against the Catholic and Orthodox Churches... Worship became less centralised and less controlling. Advances in sciences and tech began pretty quickly after that... The evidence you seek is all around you...
@AwesomeAngryBiker
@AwesomeAngryBiker 2 күн бұрын
What are you basing that on
@underzog
@underzog 11 күн бұрын
The present king of Saudia Arabia may be trying to modernize that country; however,m October 7th was in part an effort to derail that. Iran had a major part in the Oct 7th massacre.
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 6 күн бұрын
His version of "modernization" is no different from those of Tsar Alexander III: modernized "just enough" to silence critics but still maintain the same base system...
@underzog
@underzog 6 күн бұрын
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 I was hoping for Tsar Alexander II or his archetype It sucks that Alexander the II was assassinated. Maybe the October revolution wouldn't have happened.
@TheKuttaapi
@TheKuttaapi 2 күн бұрын
Inside every muslim there is a radical MBS is not different. He act to please and hide real intentions from west
@imawake9369
@imawake9369 11 күн бұрын
I love learning History, and your channel has taught me things I never knew about. Thank you for your service and your channel 🙏🏼
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 11 күн бұрын
Much appreciated
@flashwashington2735
@flashwashington2735 11 күн бұрын
Thank you Collin Heaton and FORGOTTEN HISTORY.
@GeorgeSemel
@GeorgeSemel 11 күн бұрын
Well, Charles "Chinese" Gordon of Khartoum had to deal with the same nonsense. It's funny how a guy who could barely read gets people to go along with it. Then again, there is Jim Jones. It's nothing new. It shows Saudi Arabia's inherent weakness in that they can't do anything themselves. What I didn't know was how the French GIGN sorted that mess out. Those guys don't screw around. Back in 1979, I was working a lot and not paying any attention to things other than work. For a change, it Forgotten History for me. Khartoum is one of Charlton Heston's best movies.
@InglouriousBradsterd
@InglouriousBradsterd 11 күн бұрын
Hello Mr. Heaton. Thank you for your content and for your service. Have a very nice day.
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 11 күн бұрын
Thank you kindly
@VaxtorT
@VaxtorT 11 күн бұрын
Sadly, violence is the only language these people know.
@ibroplatin4915
@ibroplatin4915 9 күн бұрын
You are crazy
@HENOC.S
@HENOC.S 8 күн бұрын
He's right, ​@@ibroplatin4915
@TexasHoosier3118
@TexasHoosier3118 8 күн бұрын
The Quran, hadiths, and history seem to support your conclusion.
@hollywoodhh5646
@hollywoodhh5646 7 күн бұрын
Usa is way worse
@redmengoals3295
@redmengoals3295 6 күн бұрын
@@TexasHoosier3118to the contrary
@Magikarp-4ever
@Magikarp-4ever 11 күн бұрын
Kinda hilarious that their prophet was also accused of all those terrorist charges too, attacking innocent's, attacking in the month when you're not supposed to, jeez what comes around goes around 😂😂😂
@marktrain9498
@marktrain9498 11 күн бұрын
Not a coincidence.
@johnryan2193
@johnryan2193 5 күн бұрын
These people mistake the bus for the destination. Religious pride is the greatest arrogance of islam.
@johnwx25
@johnwx25 12 күн бұрын
Great work as usual Colin
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 12 күн бұрын
Thanks again!
@castironskilletgranny
@castironskilletgranny 8 күн бұрын
Thank you. I have been blessed with 7 decades of wonderful history teachers. I count you a blessing in that long parade. It is never too late to learn, grow and pray over these lessons from our past.
@charlesf.5414
@charlesf.5414 12 күн бұрын
I learned about this while watching French Cops lol I googled France national police and the wormhole lead me to this incident. Thank you for this video and all the work you do
@anthonycheaford1962
@anthonycheaford1962 11 күн бұрын
Important context: Many of Juhayman's relatives participated in the 1929 Battle of Sabilla during the Ikhwan uprising against King Abdulaziz, including his father and grandfather (wikipedia), & according to author Steve Coll, one or two of the bin Laden brothers were arrested (then released) over the attempted takeover of the Grand Mosque. Coll said one of the bin Laden brothers was Mahrous & the other was “probably Osama.” Other members of the bin Laden family helped the Saudi government to retake the Grand Mosque.
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching
@-.Steven
@-.Steven 11 күн бұрын
Very interesting indeed! Thanks for posting!
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching
@thomasgumersell9607
@thomasgumersell9607 2 күн бұрын
Throughroughly enjoyed your video. Such a tragic loss of life in 1979 at the Mosque. Thoughts and prayers to all those who lost their lives. As well as the families left behind. 💪👃✨
@spazzypengin
@spazzypengin 9 күн бұрын
The religion of peace.
@geetee7154
@geetee7154 2 күн бұрын
I have never heard of this tragedy, well presented, thank you, a new subscriber here 👍
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 2 күн бұрын
Thank you kindly
@mikepotter6426
@mikepotter6426 11 күн бұрын
Wonder what would have happened if the French used laughing gas instead of
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 11 күн бұрын
LOL
@crocodiledundee8685
@crocodiledundee8685 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for posting my suggestion Colin. This is a criminally forgotten part of history that deserves this video. My only complaint is from my own research it said that the Mahdi was killed by grenades?
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
There are conflicting reports, probably shrapnel and bullets
@crocodiledundee8685
@crocodiledundee8685 7 күн бұрын
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL thanks for the clarification 🙂
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000 9 күн бұрын
Not pagan but worship a stone...
@Nova_playzx
@Nova_playzx 5 күн бұрын
Haha, you should learn a bit instead for worshiping a statue
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000 5 күн бұрын
@@Nova_playzx I suspect I know much more than you. Which is why I don't worship a pdf.
@Nova_playzx
@Nova_playzx 5 күн бұрын
@@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000 We dont worship a man atleast
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000 5 күн бұрын
@@Nova_playzx and yet when a cartoon is drawn...
@Nova_playzx
@Nova_playzx 4 күн бұрын
@@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000 oh yea when a cartoon is drawn, its clearly a man or a statue
@scottmccrea1873
@scottmccrea1873 2 күн бұрын
The French soldiers were quickly "converted" to Islam to avoid the scandal of "infidels" inside Mecca.
@kosjeyr
@kosjeyr 11 күн бұрын
As always, thank you for the history lesson.
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 11 күн бұрын
You bet
@wubaru
@wubaru 11 күн бұрын
Excellent channel. Thanks!
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@SDsc0rch
@SDsc0rch 12 күн бұрын
two deployments to the middle east I hate it
@MustAfaalik
@MustAfaalik 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for protecting the Free World. May not be the best world but it's better for non Muslims to live in for sure.🙏
@IbnRushd-mv3fp
@IbnRushd-mv3fp 11 күн бұрын
You old folk need to get off your high horse, nothing was "protected".
@MustAfaalik
@MustAfaalik 11 күн бұрын
@@IbnRushd-mv3fp Did stop Isis when your whole army ran away tails between legs, son.😜
@MustAfaalik
@MustAfaalik 11 күн бұрын
@@IbnRushd-mv3fp Your coward army ran tails between the legs and your ass was saved, son. That's what!
@MustAfaalik
@MustAfaalik 11 күн бұрын
@@IbnRushd-mv3fp protected your cowardly army & the free the locals. Have some gratitude, son!
@pauldrexel1501
@pauldrexel1501 11 күн бұрын
I never heard of this. Thank you!
@Orpilorp
@Orpilorp 11 күн бұрын
Hello! I got married in 1979, and I don't remember much of this, as we didn't have a TV until later. As a woman, having rhe young lady become the second wife of someone she didn't even know was crushing. And then the numbers who died in the stand off; so violent.
@c.w.johnsonjr6374
@c.w.johnsonjr6374 9 күн бұрын
An interesting subject. Have you considered covering the Black Panther and National of Islam violence in the US during the 1970s that resulted in attacks and hostage situations in Washington, D. C.?
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
Possibly, we have a few videos that touch on them.
@Mavis-u3k
@Mavis-u3k 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for this well researched piece, not widely enough known.
@schweinhund7966
@schweinhund7966 6 күн бұрын
Approximately 2013 I read an excellent book about this major event in the Arab world which was largely ignored in the USA in 79-80. It went into excellent detail, even explaining how the French SF men were “temporarily converted to Muslims” and more. I believe the author was Yaroslav Trofimov, but I could be wrong. Thank you for another in a long list of short but important and relevant episodes in history.
@Universal-Logic1900
@Universal-Logic1900 4 күн бұрын
They converted the french soldiers because non muslims are not allowed in the mosque?
@schweinhund7966
@schweinhund7966 4 күн бұрын
@@Universal-Logic1900 precisely.
@tylerwilkins2096
@tylerwilkins2096 12 күн бұрын
Please do a video on why the Shaw of Iran fell and how the USA let it happen
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 12 күн бұрын
We will consider. Thanks for the suggestion.
@tylerwilkins2096
@tylerwilkins2096 12 күн бұрын
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL thank you for everything you guys do! I’d love to hear what you think about our future in the USA. Will China attack us ?
@alihenderson5910
@alihenderson5910 11 күн бұрын
​@@tylerwilkins2096No, your government will.
@AlanToon-fy4hg
@AlanToon-fy4hg 11 күн бұрын
Because the former Governor of my state, Jimmy Carter "Peanuts" was President and thought the Shah was a bad man and did not support our then strategic ally, Iran. Or as another author put it "he (Carter) had a Bible belt understanding of the Middle East". Carter was hapless and incompetent and his appeasement of Islamists have led directly to the current situation in the Middle East.
@Ammo08
@Ammo08 11 күн бұрын
The Muslim version of Jim Jones...I was in my last semester of college when this happened. I graduated in December. One of my professors, a Turkish Muslim, was beside himself with this news. He had always been critical of the Arabs and Saudis in particular, but this put him over the top. He was furious.
@rajarsi6438
@rajarsi6438 11 күн бұрын
So he wasn't aware of the fact that God is always and everywhere Almighty in the material world.
@avisting
@avisting 11 күн бұрын
Great video,thank you
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 11 күн бұрын
Thank you too!
@josephpiskac2781
@josephpiskac2781 8 күн бұрын
Always great presentations.
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
Glad you like them!
@user-oi9iz9jr8y
@user-oi9iz9jr8y 11 күн бұрын
Well done video. I don’t remember hearing about this event in the news at the time. Could the Iranian hostage crisis been at the same time?
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
Yes, same year
@anonymous-lt3yd
@anonymous-lt3yd 11 күн бұрын
Group thinking Allah will help them attacks group that thinks Allah will help them that calls on a country that doesn’t believe in Allah to help them.. and that fixes it.
@sisuriffs
@sisuriffs 3 күн бұрын
The religion of peace missed the Age of Enlightenment.
@robertbasten2311
@robertbasten2311 12 күн бұрын
Interesting, thank you
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 12 күн бұрын
You bet!
@John3.36
@John3.36 11 күн бұрын
Oh Muhammad... Police be upon him!!
@FieldMarshalFeels
@FieldMarshalFeels 11 күн бұрын
I only vaguely knew of thos event. This seems to be one of the most overlooked structural events in the middle east of modern history.
@sjb3460
@sjb3460 6 күн бұрын
One reason that nobody (USA and Europe citizens) don't know about it, is because the Iranians had taken US citizens hostage. And there were also riots in Pakistan which caused lots of death and destructiion.
@felixcat9318
@felixcat9318 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for this interesting and informative video. This is a highly relevant incident which had a great impact beyond the borders of the country it occurred in.
@Jonathan-l4s
@Jonathan-l4s 10 күн бұрын
The problem statement with Islam is it is not able to reform itself . It is only able to become more extreme, more narrow, hence more violent. This has been the general historical thrust since those Muslims , influenced by Aristotle , wanted to apply Aristotelian thought to the Muslim Religion, were intellectually defeated. There was a massive internal struggle over this and the Aristotelian ones lost and, in general , ended up in then, Andalucía ( Muslim controlled Spain). While there , through contacts with Christian monk types Europe became aware of Aristotle, which is a fascinating story in and of itself. However, I digress. Since the defeat of the Aristotelian Muslim Scholars the general intellectual movement in the religion has been one of narrowing, that is a kind of integration of: religion, politics, & law into an increasingly narrow ergo violence prone ideology. The great irony here is that the only places wherein the Muslim religion can truly reform itself and achieve some , if not all and then more of its former magnificence is in the West, in open type societies. At one time the Muslim religion was indeed magnificent. Just look at what it crested in its Golden Age: the Arabesque, Algebra, beautiful mosques, philosophical thought , navigational skills, etc. etc. etc.. Let us hope that they find their way, for the world would truly benefit as it did from Islam’s Golden Age. I worked with many Muslims during my deployment to Iraq. The regular type Muslim is really not that different from most people. Many were very good, pretty much wanting what everyone wants, a nice family , good work and a peaceful life. I am not unaware that there are issues , some very bad, but the ones with whom I worked I got along with okay. This was a great presentation. Thank you very much!!!!
@mongolike513
@mongolike513 6 күн бұрын
😊😊😊
@Kardas1
@Kardas1 6 күн бұрын
“During my deployment “ mf all the distraction caused was from you so called “Christian’s” these extremists are more wide spread now because you wanted to bomb and destroy multiple countries . Islam is perfect and it will never be changed there has been many that had tried and failed .
@williamthompson2941
@williamthompson2941 9 күн бұрын
Thank you, as usual
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
My pleasure!
@williamcarey8529
@williamcarey8529 10 күн бұрын
WOW!! I never knew about this. Maybe I have forgotten about it but in reference to what was said about religious hatred George Washington quoted this, "Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause" I am a believer in Separation of Church and State and I believe that our Founding Fathers knew about this because of what happened around the world with religion and what religion has caused. As usual Mr. Heaton, thank you for the great video and keep up the great work!!
@TexasHoosier3118
@TexasHoosier3118 8 күн бұрын
The Founding Fathers were not Atheists.
@williamcarey8529
@williamcarey8529 8 күн бұрын
@@TexasHoosier3118 Do you know what an atheist is? Do you know the definition?
@TheNancypoo
@TheNancypoo 3 күн бұрын
@@TexasHoosier3118what does that have anything to do with the comment??
@debbieellett9093
@debbieellett9093 8 күн бұрын
I hadn't heard of this before. Like you said, religious wars have gone on throughout history. Unfortunately, they still are, in one way or another.
@caledoniawarrior
@caledoniawarrior 11 күн бұрын
Has there ever been a religion that wasn't something that drove men mad?
@TexasHoosier3118
@TexasHoosier3118 8 күн бұрын
Atheism starts with mad people and does not change. So technically....
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
Perhaps Buddhism and Confucianism, but they are more philosophies than religions
@redmengoals3295
@redmengoals3295 6 күн бұрын
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNELMyanmar says hello
@reuvenpolonskiy2544
@reuvenpolonskiy2544 Күн бұрын
Is there any worldview that wasn't something the drove men mad?
@ronalddesiderio7625
@ronalddesiderio7625 8 күн бұрын
The real world 🌎 is a dangerous place. Americans have no idea how good we have it. It’s slowly slipping away
@itsa-itsagames
@itsa-itsagames 11 күн бұрын
Some history i didnt know! Thank you 🙏
@blazingstar9638
@blazingstar9638 7 күн бұрын
I was just thinking about this yesterday
@MatthewOBrien-ds1xv
@MatthewOBrien-ds1xv 6 күн бұрын
WOW! I don't remember hearing anything about this.
@hollywoodhh5646
@hollywoodhh5646 7 күн бұрын
These videos are fascinating
@romandacil3984
@romandacil3984 9 күн бұрын
I remember reading about this years back and I wondered if they kissed the 6 black stones and one white stone. If it ever occurred to them that they were idolators for worshipping stones.
@Nova_playzx
@Nova_playzx 5 күн бұрын
Kissing = worshipping?
@es7821
@es7821 7 күн бұрын
The event that sent the Saudi monarchy into religious lunacy…
@KriegZombie
@KriegZombie 11 күн бұрын
Wow. I had absolutely never heard of this. Thanks for the intel.
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 11 күн бұрын
You bet!
@TheBelagaana
@TheBelagaana 8 күн бұрын
Thank you for presenting. It is sad that that terrorists change societies. This individual changed the course of Saudi modernization. Basically they listened and made changes even after murdering so many.
@mickeymcafee7615
@mickeymcafee7615 11 күн бұрын
This shows you how a few dedicated people in a group can affect society and government forever. No real change ever came unless it was from the tip of a spear, edge of a blade, barrel of a gun or heel of a boot. Let that be a lesson for America. You'll never vote or protest your way out of our current situation
@jtotheb-ip2hh
@jtotheb-ip2hh 11 күн бұрын
I beg to differ. Amazing changes have come about from peaceful actions. Consider the Bloodless Revolution in England, for example. Or the end of the cold war in 1989 with the fall of the Berlin Wall.
@ironwoodnf
@ironwoodnf 11 күн бұрын
​@@jtotheb-ip2hhThe fall of the Soviet Union was far from bloodless.
@ShubhamMishrabro
@ShubhamMishrabro 8 күн бұрын
Fall of warsaw pact and berlin wall don't agree. Most British colonies gained freedom without violence
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
But the fall of communism in the USSR was bloodless
@somefatbugger
@somefatbugger 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for teaching us. Cheers from Australia
@posticusmaximus1739
@posticusmaximus1739 8 күн бұрын
Not so holy after all huh?
@gen-xboomer9489
@gen-xboomer9489 6 күн бұрын
Likely saved their society otherwise by now they'd have abortion and trans 6 year olds🤔
@ScreamingEagle-xl3tw
@ScreamingEagle-xl3tw 10 күн бұрын
I can't believe I've never heard of this before
@walcoman
@walcoman 11 күн бұрын
Knowing very little about Mohammeds religious doctrines, I honestly don't think slaughtering innocent humans could be possibly one of the beliefs.
@TexasHoosier3118
@TexasHoosier3118 8 күн бұрын
Infidels are not innocent. Islam calls for subjugation of non Muslims, forcing them to pay a special high tax for protection against the Muslims for the purpose of making them feel subjugated. Muslim armies are permitted to sleep with women they have conquered even if their husbands are still alive. A Muslim man can have up to 4 wives and as many sex slaves as he can own. Islam also allows for marrying and divorcing of prepubescent girls. Surah 65:4 Google is your friend.
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
Islam was spread by the sword, as doctrine
@Nova_playzx
@Nova_playzx 5 күн бұрын
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL Woah, wasent expecting a biase
@WhocaresWhy44
@WhocaresWhy44 7 күн бұрын
This channel is the tonic for Amnesia. Vidal warned us of that.
@jonahbrown7540
@jonahbrown7540 9 күн бұрын
Make one about the Children's Crusade.
@nedee1111
@nedee1111 3 күн бұрын
It was the french and Pakistan special forces that cleared up the siege .
@370530e
@370530e 9 күн бұрын
“The Siege of Mecca” - Yaroslav Trofimov.
@SDsc0rch
@SDsc0rch 12 күн бұрын
"religion of peace"
@Magikarp-4ever
@Magikarp-4ever 11 күн бұрын
@SDsc0rch same people that'll say that haven't yet read a word of their prophet lol
@nancyM1313-Boo
@nancyM1313-Boo 11 күн бұрын
Ty💜
@jagdishramanathan2091
@jagdishramanathan2091 5 күн бұрын
1979 was theyear of islamic revin iran by ayatollah khomeini at govt level .this massacre was not given any importance in media after few days .
@archlich4489
@archlich4489 9 күн бұрын
Army AND Marine Corps veteran? Thank you for your service!
@woodfromthehood
@woodfromthehood 11 күн бұрын
Anybody here with extensive knowledge of the Quran that can point me to the surah that states that no violence can be committed in this space?
@garlickebagg
@garlickebagg 11 күн бұрын
To be a musszlum, one does not need brains, only immature emoting.
@shahmatsimplex4144
@shahmatsimplex4144 10 күн бұрын
Saracenology has become an extremely complex subject, especially since the spread and increasing popularity of Wahhabism. How many Mahdis have there been in the last 200 years ?
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL 7 күн бұрын
Who counts? LOL
@love.kindness.respect39
@love.kindness.respect39 5 күн бұрын
Jihadism is the reason for all the problens in the middle east
@CoreyMack5000
@CoreyMack5000 11 күн бұрын
I gotta be careful watching your videos, they make me less stupid. And thats dangerous for a dumb person like me.
@garlickebagg
@garlickebagg 11 күн бұрын
or the masters who must control you, because they cant admit that the person who really needs to be controlled, is his own immature self. Now you are safe. 👍.
@johnkowalski5756
@johnkowalski5756 11 күн бұрын
"Westernization" as defined by the West generally never works in traditional non-Western cultures. These countries want modernization and progress but but not they see as Western hedonism and materialism. The current world situation reflects a major anti-West philosophy. The BRICS alliance against the G7 is a major example.
@rajarsi6438
@rajarsi6438 11 күн бұрын
Non-Western cultures like islamic cultures are most materialistic and hedonistic.
@redmengoals3295
@redmengoals3295 6 күн бұрын
@@rajarsi6438😂😂😂 says the weed smoking alcohol drinking club going society
@redmengoals3295
@redmengoals3295 6 күн бұрын
@@rajarsi6438Islam is the furthest thing from hedonistic 😂
@rajarsi6438
@rajarsi6438 6 күн бұрын
@@redmengoals3295 You worship 💃💃💃, money, cars, cell phones, jewelry, etc. etc. etc. every other day. Indeed, you're a total hypocrite.
@rajarsi6438
@rajarsi6438 6 күн бұрын
@@redmengoals3295 According to you, a total hypocrite. You worship female bodies, money, cars, cell phones, jewelry, carcasses, sex etc. etc. etc. every other day. Civilized people can only laugh about the hypocrisy you folks display.
@garlickebagg
@garlickebagg 11 күн бұрын
In amurica, were waging war against cigarettes.
@DrMatey215
@DrMatey215 11 күн бұрын
$12 a pack! Australia puts a tax of .85 cents on each cigarette! That's $170 a carton just in taxes!
@Sargodha007-m7t
@Sargodha007-m7t 4 күн бұрын
Truth is the primary principle of research. The Army who got rid of rebels was Pakistan Army Commandos. The Troup was headed by Major Pervaiz Musharraf later General and President of Pakistan. Please put the record right.
@orboakin8074
@orboakin8074 8 күн бұрын
So basically, Saudi Arabia created wahhabi islam and it later cane back to bite them?🤔
@WhocaresWhy44
@WhocaresWhy44 7 күн бұрын
At 4:07 he looks kinda sorta like John Walker Lindh.
@WhocaresWhy44
@WhocaresWhy44 7 күн бұрын
HK at 11:24. Situational Awareness goes out the window on full auto. Yet they already have gas masks on.
@theMOCmaster
@theMOCmaster 12 күн бұрын
Is it or is it not true that the French special forces “temporarily converted” to Islam to enter Mecca?
@Read-My-Post-Idiot
@Read-My-Post-Idiot 12 күн бұрын
You should look up the word research and apply it instead of asking someone else online.
@crocodiledundee8685
@crocodiledundee8685 11 күн бұрын
I can answer. Nope. The French merely advised, they never entered Mecca. The claim came afterwards when the lead adviser after leaving the special forces wrote a book about his experiences and said he did it.
@theMOCmaster
@theMOCmaster 11 күн бұрын
@@crocodiledundee8685 what incentive does a French ‘advisor’ have to claim he temporarily converted to Islam vs what incentive does the Saudi royal family dealing with an Islamist anti-western rebellion have to cover it up?
@iamtehgame
@iamtehgame 11 күн бұрын
Mecca is prohibited from non-muslims entering it, even the highway leading there has a lane dedicated for non-muslims to use it.
@crocodiledundee8685
@crocodiledundee8685 11 күн бұрын
@@theMOCmaster for the former fame and glory. Look no further than Chris Ryan & Andy McNab, veterans of the disastrous Bravo Two Zero who falsely blamed their commanding officer for the mission’s failure in order to prop themselves up. For the latter it’s multi-layered. One, the Saudi Royal family’s claim to the throne is their sole claim to protect & defend Mecca for all of Islam. If they admit to using foreign non-Muslims it undermines their claim to the wider Islamic world (especially when at the time there were plenty of other Arab countries looking to seize Mecca from the Saudis which is why they hired the French as they didn’t care about Mecca). Second, it was the largest uprising in the kingdom’s history and it shook Saudi Arabia to her core.
@DT-wp4hk
@DT-wp4hk 12 күн бұрын
Interesting👍
@kevinfox1780
@kevinfox1780 3 күн бұрын
I read "The Siege of Mecca" I had never heard of this story because it more or less coincided with the US embassy takeover in Tehran. I was 13 when this happened.
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