1984 by George Orwell: Bibliotheca Webinar

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[@moondog9717]

I love the immediate transformation of his physical appearance from a young professor in the 80's to just blatantly looking like a Socratic bust

[@sofitocyn100]

dude, that made me actually laugh. Not sure I have ever laughed at a comment before. lmao

[@colonelspicymustard]

his voice has become more glorious as well

[@MarcosElMalo2]

@@colonelspicymustard Not to mention his vocabulary has become more colorful in his later years. His recent podcasts have a lot of “effin and jeffin”. 😆

[@topaz4541]

@@sofitocyn100 Hahah! Agreed. Laughed out loud. Well done @moondog.

[@jgharding2]

hahahahahha incredible comment

[@luismiramontes4278]

I can’t express how happy I was when I found out the dr is doing lectures again, and posting them on KZbin no less

[@vintagekory]

I’ve found all of Dr. Sugrue’s lectures double plus good… I mean informative and life enriching.

[@AnthonyL0401]

Well played

[@JamesCKuo]

“Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into this world, let it even triumph. But not through me” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 1984 always reminds me of this quote. You are a national treasure Dr. Sugrue. I deeply appreciate your lectures 🙏🏼

[@virkelie2]

The first video of Professor Sugrue I saw was his lecture on Marcus Aurelius. Absolutely amazing!!!

[@sarthchandrakar5187]

same for me

[@ImpressionismFTW]

Wow, this is gonna be a good one (just began). If Dr. Sugrue is reading these, please let it be known that your teaching has informed me with an efficiency and clarity I never experienced before. Thank you so much.

[@greggoat6570]

What did you possibly even mean by this?

[@greggoat6570]

@Daniel Klaffmo I want to try whatever you are smoking man, I asked you a simple and straightforward question because you original comment was manic and incomprehensible and your response was to insult me and spout off some even more manic and even more incomprehensible shit. Don’t bother replying I won’t be looking. Maybe sober up and come look at his later.

[@danielklaffmo4506]

Yepp sorry for being an asshole.

[@carlswenson5403]

Dr. Sugrue, you sir are one of my all time favorite orators. Your lecture on stoicism was particularly exceptional and I share it with everyone I possibly can. Thank you very much for posting. Your knowledge, wisdom and understanding are truly priceless.

[@I3loom]

He's so well-spoken; I can't get enough.

[@shiangjeoushyu8586]

One of the most delightful things in my retirement years was to listen to your lectures. The fact that I am still learning and expanding from my cohort is wonderful. Thnak you.

[@ok-kk3ic]

So happy to see more content!

[@synapsiddigital6251]

Thank you for this. Haunting to say the least.

[@SimonJHeath]

Great work Dr Michael,

[@whyt201]

Your explanation of the metaphor of “weaponization” is the most brilliant thing ive heard in a long time.

[@tribalwarscrazy]

Salutations from Finland prof Sugrue!

[@fakeaccount5888]

Our greatest honour and privilege to be able to listen from professor Surge. I hope he continues lecturing and enlightening us. ♥

[@mdaliaamir]

I am dying to hear again Prof. Sugrue’s lectures on Plato’s dialogues. It introduced me to Socrates’s method and gave me a new enlightened frame of mind to doing science as a scientist. Looking forward to seeing the whole 20 lecture set on Plato’s dialogues from this channel.

[@ajj1204]

Great as always 🙏🌹

[@DonTheMoron716]

"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind except that you happen to be insane." George Orwell, 1984

[@dirtynoahsquickreviews6828]

I'd love to hear you dissect Chuck Palannock and Fight Club. Thank you for you videos.

[@CharlesAustin]

At least we have this novel available. I’ve seen the film. Terrorizing for sure. Truth and politics have become further and further apart. China: very scary !! Thank prof Sugrue ..!! So insightful and elegant, and informative.

[@thoughtheglass]

big fan! great t osee you still active!

[@Xanadu2025]

I’m listening to your course on Plato right now.

[@user-ec3ex1ru9y]

Hell yeah ! finally new content

[@ryans3001]

Thank You!

[@fightingwords8955]

Keep up the good work. 👍

[@alexandernay5631]

I always thought, that 1984, was a classic in world literature. And, have always wanted to read it. I think that his commentary on authority, as a part of society, is great.

[@ericfry181]

Been waiting for this one.. you’re channel truly has been a treat -look forward to what you upload next (you will be my introduction to substack as I seek out more material outside of this censor 😜)

[@ericfry181]

I wonder if the professor is aware of the original omitted introduction that was discovered sometime in the seventies (Chomsky likes to reference it)? Then any of you self styled intellects want to delve deeper in the idea that the title is actually a nod to the hundredth year anniversary for the Fabian’s? 🤯😂

[@user-sb4fd3sz3q]

Just right now reading this book.

[@gudolph]

Thank you, as usual Doctor, for sharing these insights. There's a lot of investigating to be done in the exogenous evolution of language as well. Orwell sets up IngSoc with a lot of thought in the reasoning for the interplay of vocabulary with epistemology. If the Party controls the meaning of words, they control the breadth of conversation. However, the degree of absolutism on information required to yield such tightly-defined terminology must have some material basis on the trajectory of the culture. It's frustrated me that as a story told by Winston's perspective, a very fleeting vision of the society of 1984 and the history leading up to the party is nonexistent. Indeed, the thrust of his occupation correcting facts to fit the state narrative, implicitly means that the motors in play to create such a fantastical society (fantasy such as it was when the book was written) are obscured to the reader. Thus, 1984 demonstrates the ability of language and meaning to amplify a part of the existent zeitgeist to a finite goal in that framework without being able to touch on the temporal consequences and effects following its construction. If only Orwell had been able to sell his sequel: '1985 - "The American Dream Is Still Alive"' /s

[@johnnysprocketz]

had to watch this one twice!

[@jonkraghshow]

Thank you for publishing new content, Dr. Sugrue. When was this series recorded?

[@christinemartin63]

"To think that two and two are four and neither five nor three, the heart of man hath long been sore ... and long tis like to be" (A.E. Housman). Another take on the neverending war between reason and emotion.

[@bigm9300]

Pros of aged professor Sugrue: Extreme bass in his voice which is very soothing Cons of aged professor Sugrue: Uhh. Uhhm. (a lot) Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

[@jhonviel7381]

46:05 what a great reply ha, damn man i think you make it sound so reasonable and common.

[@josephasghar]

Sounds like an extract from a visitors’ guide to the UK.

[@BenDover-eh5zw]

I read 1984 over a year ago and I had a new idea about one of the themes yesterday. It has been a while, so my memory of things may be a bit fussy and I don’t have the book on me now. This may not be a major theme of 1984 but it is still written in the pages; that theme being “love”. Now I don not mean love in the way we know culturally but the type of love you can apply to all biological creatures (procreation one could call it). To stay within the realm of the book, the younger generation, with respect to Winston, is introduced by his neighbours two children and in his dreams he has about when he was a child his baby sibling. It may not be for procreation purposes, but Winston and Julia have many sexual encounters, in the book too, and this is not the only person Winston has had intercourse with {the naughty boy}. It sounds reasonable that in the face of real-world calamity, to a species, they would procreate, in a last-ditch effort to increase the probability of the species survival, over time. To “loosely” link this idea to us humans, in recent times,…Baby Boomers (the massive spike of births after WW2). The most important RESOURCE to our species is us (our mechanical-biological flesh moulding in space and time, to transform matter on Earth plus all the other reasons; whaterver they may be). I could write a paragraph or two, but this is already too long for a KZbin comment. I would of like to relate the latter ideas more to 1984 (possible reasoning for the public executions and the enemy/self-inflicted bombings). I feel that for the proles/herd/working class/majority of society are living in a utopia, in 1984. A perpetual of victory contrasted with death. I imagine that Nazi society was similar; constant victory and winning contrasted with death. Hopeful you get a gist of this idea what I have not really fully developed {even for myself}. I’ll finish with this question: does War (the forceful act of mortality) increase human libido? When birth rates are dropping, in my state, do I just inflict it with calamity (within in the state)? Maybe I want birth rates to increase so I can populate a foreign state with citizens of my state (at the borders of states)? This idea doesn’t have to be human inflicted, if we were to think that nature inflicts war. War is Peace

[@Tanx913]

Would be great to see you do some lectures independently. Wouldn't need to be fancy just you and a camera. Watched almost all your old lectures would love to hear you revisit those subjects

[@0zzzzz]

Thats not what i imagined he'd look like today. Hope hes still somewhat healthy

[@ammarahmad9976]

I would absolutely love to have him recommend 100 books to me

[@LethalBubbles]

this lecture really hits at the heart of everything wrong with contemporary politics (post-truth "existential realism" and the control of language. or as the politicians say; "plausible deniability) imo what should be done isn't to look for "The Truth" that can put into a logical doctrine, but to establish an honest orthodoxy (honest that it is True Opinion, not Knowlege) and an epistemological doctrine that's based on something like the Negative Theology of Dionysius the Aeropagite. I believe we love our ability to reason, which is a beautiful thing, but we put our current, temporal understandings of the world up as false idols in our quest for immortal knowlege, that we collectively do not live up the Socratic maxim of "I only know that I know nothing". which allows post-truth sophistry of today to take literally the same position that Gorgias did in Plato's day.

[@SaroshJafri5]

How can we join into Professor Sugrue’s lectures?

[@dominicgamboa2554]

What and when's the next Bibliotheca Webinar? :D

[@edwardb7811]

Anything posted on KZbin should have full identifying data, to include when it was first aired.,

[@rahmigenis9092]

Thank you old Brando

[@m1g0t0]

Have you read 1985 by Burgess?

[@edubmf]

Great example of the restriction of language: the govt define inflation and that definition excludes the full cost of buying a house, instead simply using the monthly cost based on estimates by existing owners. This then understates inflation in official figures, and all conversations use that figure as the "benchmark" when discussing essentially everything in the capitalist economy. All wage negotiations, all reviews of spending power etc. All from that deliberately flawed definition, that allows banks to then overissue currency against housing via mortgages.

[@littlebigheroman]

I feel that Orwell's pessimism is less a reflection of his worldview and more of a didactic technique. Showing folks the worst case scenario is more effective as a motivator than meticulously replicating reality, and though the path of destiny is constrained by material and political circumstances, it is ultimately determined by individual inspiration.

[@daithiocinnsealach3173]

One individual. Sometimes by accident.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

That’s your take away? Individual inspiration and spirit is totally crushed by violence by the end of the novel. The individual, if you can call him that, has been merged into a political totality.

[@littlebigheroman]

@@MarcosElMalo2 That's the worst case scenario, if that civic spirit of freedom and of opposition to totalitarianism is crushed. He's not necessarily saying that is the inevitable outcome.

[@stephenadams2397]

The catastrophe of Russia started with Lenin. R.a. malsagov details this in "An island hell". The book is about the horrors of the first gulag in the solvetski Islands set up under Lenin.

[@willardgrey7328]

Gracefully navigated out of the woods on that Political correct censorship question

[@kurtaikido2889]

1984 has given us a vocabulary to voice concerns about totalitarian behavior and simultaneously provided the ruling class with a mission statement…

[@xyzllii]

I'm confused. Is this man Sugrue?

[@EliteBuildingCompany]

Yes, but the earlier videos he is much younger.

[@stephenadams2397]

Both words and silence are now considered violence.

[@daithiocinnsealach3173]

Who dat is?

[@theemptyatom]

Mao Trudeau just did that to the Freedom Convoy

[@EliteBuildingCompany]

Although i did enjoy this lecture very much. i would suggest that it wasn't about Stalin's Soviet Union, it was actually about Britain, and the managerial revolution, described by Burnham.

[@victorthai250]

Dr. Sugrue, I am curious when is your birthday?

[@dr.michaelsugrue]

Are you going to cast my horoscope? 2/1/57. Most of my life has happened so there is not much to predict.

[@victorthai250]

@@dr.michaelsugrue had a feeling you were one of the intellectual Air Signs like a Libra or Aquarius :) thanks for indulging me professor.

[@ryans3001]

@@dr.michaelsugrue “To see a world in a grain of sand And a heaven in a wild flower, Hold infinity in the palm of your hand And eternity in an hour."

[@MichaelS-qs2rl]

What has happened to Michael Sugrue. He doesn't look like the same person.

[@AnthonyL0401]

It's been 35 years

[@pearz420]

@@AnthonyL0401 that's no excuse!

[@xxcoopcoopxx]

Lenny Bruce quote!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Dirtysensor42]

It’s crazy to me that we even have to argue about what’s real.

[@casudemous5105]

Oh yeah?? What do you mean by real.

[@lucasvarela9632]

@@casudemous5105 what is a 👩?

[@gspurlock1118]

Yay, a book I've read! If you want to know what 1984 actually looks like, please check out the following youtube interview of Yeonmi Park by Valuetaiment: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJKWZXtjmblrf5I The most poignant moment for me was when she said that freedom is hard. If she were sure she would have enough to eat, she would have returned to North Korea.

[@theczar8435]

Hate to break it to you, but she is a fraud.

[@Charmagh110]

40:12

[@sangwaraumo]

You lost some youth, but you gained a boss voice. Win.

[@A0Refrigerator]

From my experience half the time you shout fire in a theatre people tell you to shut up and the other times people ignore you. I don't think it's as great of an example as people believe it to be.

[@SpiritualAtheist]

Better than sex. 👍

[@not_emerald]

Terrible description of libertarianism (which I do not consider myself to be), but great, amazing book discussion.

[@scottstruif3939]

Talk about a dirty toilet without reference to a dirty toilet is meaningless.

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

Why does Sugrue sound so different?

[@Henchgirl7342]

I think that's just because he's old and has put on a little bit of girth

[@divinegon4671]

More dominating.

[@AnthonyL0401]

35 years later

[@Henchgirl7342]

@@AnthonyL0401 I got whiplash seeing him that old and fat. I was going on the assumption that all his previous video lectures were just the university shafting the philosophy department by recording them on VHS-era equipment

[@AnthonyL0401]

@@Henchgirl7342 kinda rude, lady

[@historicusjoe121]

"Control the past and you Control the future." Gee, who are the one's tearing down our statues???

[@dressedtosmellgood]

On the other hand, saving everything is the mentality of the hoarder

[@adrianpc1369]

Russia 2022

[@elmersbalm5219]

I have started questioning the dogma that Orwell’s Animal Farm and 1984 were critiques of communism. He was born to serve the British Empire as an apparatchik to the noble class. There was no way he could write about his personal experience without transferring it on the monster du jour. The critique is a perfect map of english establishment. The focus on communism in this video is an insidious example of rewriting history.

[@scparker6893]

I see we are trying to practice some newspeak here. 1984's connections with communism and totalitarian viewpoints in general are well documented. Ironically you are the one attempting to re-write history by classifying a very obvious interpretation as dogma, in an attempt to give it a negative connotation. In short you would fit very well into the world of 1984 and are quite insidious yourself.

[@scparker6893]

Not to mention the fact that Communism is NOT the focus of this video and is rarely even mentioned, it shows a deep insecurity in your own beliefs if that is what you have picked out. Embarrassing and painfully anti-intellectual comment.

[@andyayala9119]

Woke is rewriting history

[@dr.michaelsugrue]

Not on my watch. I have about 180k words of a 500k history of the world written. I won't live to finish it, but the Kraken has been released.

[@andyayala9119]

Bless you and thank you Dr. for what you’re doing. You are a beacon of truth.

[@Boysermusic]

​@@dr.michaelsugrueGod rest his soul

[@jamesg199t]

@@dr.michaelsugruedid this ever come out before he passed away? Dr. Michael RIP Buddy!