Thanks for that. I think I missed this one back then, probably working. I am reminded of how puzzled I used to be at the time, about which cars were fast. I can understand that many cars of that time, were not homolegated to run in this class. But I'd have to ask if the Commodores were not allowed to run a limited slip dif and the Starions were. And perhaps there was some rule about what brake pads you could use or something... Because I had a reasonable idea what cars were fast out in the real world, and it wasn't damn Starions... LOL. An RX7 of that vintage should have just WASTED the Starions, but it stopped. Overheating? A turbo VL C'dore should have blitzed them, but it would need pretty hard pads and either a spool or a fairly tight LSD. I saw one in here smoking an inside rear, but no evidence of wheelspin from the Starions... It would have been fun to get out there in a Brock Blue Meanie, or a Walkiedoor, but those don't seem to have been eligible. I know it was called 'production car' but they did rather seem to have their own very specific idea of what that meant. A 911-930 Turbo was a production car at that time, but you never saw one of them in the field...