1989 Tour de France Final Time Trial

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socalrider909

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@xsvdrummer
@xsvdrummer 16 жыл бұрын
One of the most important events in sports, not just because he prevails but also because Greg Lemond ushers in the modern era of cycling to the world!
@josemontano2285
@josemontano2285 11 жыл бұрын
The 80s was the best years in cycling.
@berniebee
@berniebee 14 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this live. RIP Laurent Fignon.
@CharlesRoels
@CharlesRoels 17 жыл бұрын
This is amazing stuff, I've wanted to see this again for a long time now. Still the most famous moment of TDF history. Cheers for this!
@BobNeubauer
@BobNeubauer 15 жыл бұрын
Wow! This was great. Thanks for posting this. All these years and I never saw this, only heard about it. Great to finally witness it.
@salomon75
@salomon75 14 жыл бұрын
Shortly after this race, Bicycling Magazine did a story on it, and they determined somehow that if Fignon had cut his ponytail he would have saved 12 seconds and won the Tour. Amazing. This will always be the most iconic showdown in the history of cycling.
@mustardjunkie
@mustardjunkie 15 жыл бұрын
LeMond actually went back to the wind tunnel in San Diego many years later out of curiosity. They actually determined the aero helmet that Greg had on SLOWED him down by 6 seconds because it was like a parachute when he looked down. But the aerobars gave him about 8 secons faster. He would have practically broke even with no helmet and no aero bars.
@mustardjunkie
@mustardjunkie 15 жыл бұрын
You right, it was a Laser. It was sent to Ten speed Drive Imports in Florida where it was re-rebadged it as a TVT Carbon LeMond for the WOrld Championships. LOL, its whatever Greg wanted it to be. This guy Bill Bove? Rode it around in the parking lot that year, 56 tooth chainring with the cracked disk wheel from LeMond's garage door. LOL. He said the bike was super-fast. Looks like ancient technology now but not really.... Thinks have not really changed.
@zuzupetals1999
@zuzupetals1999 17 жыл бұрын
People can speculate all they want. The bottom line is Lemond made up the time and won. He averaged over 34 mph for that time trail. A record that stood for many years. You can see that Fignon was struggling throughout the TT. He constantly stood up and never really had a good rhythm. It was one of the greatest moments in cycling.
@myrules1010
@myrules1010 14 жыл бұрын
That was such an awesome moment. Probably the best ever for American cycling. I remember I was working at a bike shop on this day and some turkey (co-worker) came in and told us all who won, and we were all planning on watching it later on. But either way it's still so amazing. I still got tense watching it even though I knew the outcome.
@BobbyL80123
@BobbyL80123 16 жыл бұрын
I was shooting to win the Tour De Tucson back in college. Cracked the top 20 and nowadays I can barely ride down the street.
@recon455
@recon455 15 жыл бұрын
Probably not. Helmets weren't required in all stages until the past few years, and the aerodynamic benefits were not fully understood.
@RK831
@RK831 14 жыл бұрын
I was there during that final time trial to Paris. I remember reading in a newspaper that the aero bars were allowed, but the aero helmet was not allowed because it was too long, hence the ADR team hacked off the tail end.
@BobbyL80123
@BobbyL80123 16 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe the average speed Lemond put out on this ride (around 34.5 mph). That's like a sprinting speed for me.
@pockquence
@pockquence 17 жыл бұрын
Amazing stage, i was there at the finish line after following the race on my bike that year. I felt so sorry for Fignon at the time as I thought Lemond was arrogant after he said he would have won the 1987 tour if he had not missed it due to the shooting accident I have since looked back on this and respect Lemond for what was an incredible time trial.
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not arrogance as much as confidence; something necessary at that level of sport.
@mustardjunkie
@mustardjunkie 15 жыл бұрын
Hmm.... I said LeMond was the last great champion of Cycling; I didnt say Everyone who is faster than me dopes.... There's a difference there. LeMond's carreer was ended by racing too often and overtraining; not under-conditioning. Thats a common misconception. Its subject to opinion, but when someone goes down thats usually not arguable.
@dan32113
@dan32113 13 жыл бұрын
RIP Fignon.
@mustardjunkie
@mustardjunkie 15 жыл бұрын
LeMond really was the last drug free champion of cycling, at the very least the other clean riders that have succeeded need to speak up.
@hm7hm7
@hm7hm7 14 жыл бұрын
R.I.P...
@babbsiscool
@babbsiscool 17 жыл бұрын
thats hard to say thats all to do with pedal power wich wasnt being measured. it also has to do with wieght and fignon is heavier the lemond but who knows how that would have gone.
@intrepidlr44
@intrepidlr44 11 жыл бұрын
I dont care about Armstrong he has nothing to do with this video. Yeah so is Indurain but people have there suspicions about him. I'm not arguing that LeMond wasn't a great cyclist because he was, and his physical attributes are impressive, I'm just saying, knowing all we know about the 90's and 00's with wide spread doping and improved technology/nutrition/training, that for this to still be the fastest ITT in my view makes him suspicious.
@Sionnach1601
@Sionnach1601 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I don't like thinking about it either, but you are right - it's a point, a *fact* that we can't ignore....hmmmmmm......
@LightningJanitorial
@LightningJanitorial 15 жыл бұрын
I can understand having that opinion. The thing I keep thinking about though is that Im watching a presumably clean (hes tested SO much) Lance Armstrong, at 37 years of age, with not even a years worth of training, still sitting 3rd in the overall to a guy that might be the most talented cyclist ever, whos in the prime of his career. I think theres a reasonable possibility that Lance just had more heart than anyone else in those 7 Tours.
@RK831
@RK831 15 жыл бұрын
I remember so vividly at a press conference before the final stage. Fignon: "Greg thinks he can win, but he can't. I am much stronger in the mind and in the legs." Really?
@tennsmoothie
@tennsmoothie 14 жыл бұрын
@cuddles76 - that was a prologue if i'm not mistaken David.
@cantor0305
@cantor0305 13 жыл бұрын
note that the french organizer never made a final Time trial on champs élysées again ... :)
@evb4mvp
@evb4mvp 14 жыл бұрын
@baroh2413 plus why should the bars be banned anyway? lemond set a precedent and now everyone uses aerobars because they have such a great advantage!
@Blaugrana92
@Blaugrana92 14 жыл бұрын
RIP Laurent
@yuosid
@yuosid 16 жыл бұрын
Pauvre Fignon, ces 8 secondes c'est l'aerodynamisme de ses cheuveux !
@warren09121971
@warren09121971 17 жыл бұрын
These were the good ol' days...Greg is the best.
@joavim
@joavim 14 жыл бұрын
Aero bars won Lemond the Tour. RIP Fignon.
@babbsiscool
@babbsiscool 17 жыл бұрын
i agree but its from the 80s guys remember that was the 80s and the 90s too not much we can do about some of our annoying past but just try to move forward.
@met66
@met66 17 жыл бұрын
Did you see it live in Europe? Because they didnt show it live in the US as far as I recall.
@Rallef1
@Rallef1 14 жыл бұрын
R.I.P
@vashna3799
@vashna3799 13 жыл бұрын
this year is when americans fell in love with the tour de france
@minaiacom
@minaiacom 12 жыл бұрын
Lemond Fignon the best of the best duel
@socalrider909
@socalrider909 10 жыл бұрын
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@BobbyL80123
@BobbyL80123 16 жыл бұрын
possibly... '85 and '86 were pretty good too.
@glywnniswells9480
@glywnniswells9480 5 жыл бұрын
Fignon was robbed in a sense it was a major advantage but still incredible riding with no TT bars
@LVPHOTOG
@LVPHOTOG 14 жыл бұрын
@whiskydog777 NOPE.... He was cleared to use them....
@zuzupetals1999
@zuzupetals1999 11 жыл бұрын
Since Pharmstrong finally confessed, I guess that takes care of that theory.
@dahgutone
@dahgutone 15 жыл бұрын
Fignon, Good rider, bad doper, and hope he fights cancer.
@BoxCarBoy12
@BoxCarBoy12 12 жыл бұрын
This is the most epic TDF TT ever... but what is with the over-dramatic music?
@drewp66
@drewp66 14 жыл бұрын
Greg should be asked to prove that he did not dope during his three tours.
@baroh2413
@baroh2413 12 жыл бұрын
Back then handlebars was the issue... if only they had known
@aldolentini
@aldolentini 13 жыл бұрын
@socalrider909 bars...ponytails...drugs....strategies..... Lemond was simply a better time trialist fullstop.
@TicToc06
@TicToc06 11 жыл бұрын
8 Secs. That's the closest "winning"margin in TDF history.
@yesroh
@yesroh 13 жыл бұрын
Would Lance have won? I don't know...would LeMond have beaten Lance in his from 1999 to 2005 if he'd been racing with a strong team? What's the point in speculating? What if Merckx had been there---he may have beaten both men. Who cares? Would Lance have won anything if he'd had to go to Europe with a foreign team and learn the ropes without an American team around him like LeMond had to do? there's not point in speculating.
@lingopresley
@lingopresley 14 жыл бұрын
TOO STRONG!!
@andyh753r
@andyh753r 14 жыл бұрын
Sam Posey
@eaglesglenstormboy1129
@eaglesglenstormboy1129 11 жыл бұрын
best tour ever ,not like junkie armstrong
@kpkafle
@kpkafle 14 жыл бұрын
Greg was the best...better than Lance, he did not blood dope. I don't blame Lance everybody was doing it.
@sourdough51
@sourdough51 14 жыл бұрын
I remember this well too, I was also an amateur competitive cyclist. Actually Greg averaged 34.6 mph which is amazing. I had heard that Laurent had congratulated Greg BEFORE the race on his SECOND place finish! Lesson here...don't count your chickens before the eggs are hatched.
@humanbraininrobotbod
@humanbraininrobotbod 10 жыл бұрын
Needs more xylophone.
@BobbyL80123
@BobbyL80123 4 жыл бұрын
or cowbell.
@21shergar
@21shergar 15 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this live in 1989: truly the most amazing Tour de France climax ever.
@BuffaloBuffalo-uc6zp
@BuffaloBuffalo-uc6zp 3 жыл бұрын
You can say that again. ! Greg at his most best coming back from an insane shooting accident which really put things into perspective considering the fight - back that he made on a physical and psychological level that shows his credible endeavour and fight back not seen before in the history of cycling...!
@paulfischer4992
@paulfischer4992 7 жыл бұрын
How about A xylophone player next to riders in support car, ? Surely better than aero bars
@earthquake69
@earthquake69 15 жыл бұрын
"daddy's trying to get home how fast as he can" how cheesy.
@CarbonTitanium
@CarbonTitanium 17 жыл бұрын
Wow, incredible. I just watched this for the first time after hearing about it for years. It's better than I imagined.
@valle3452
@valle3452 4 жыл бұрын
"6/10 of a Mile"... because someone would not get it if he says "1 Km" ?
@TimSchmidt_art
@TimSchmidt_art 10 жыл бұрын
One of the most memorable moments in sports history I've ever seen. The back and forth with the yellow jersey over the previous 2 weeks really set the stage for this moment.
@Sionnach1601
@Sionnach1601 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, true - "the back and forth of the yellow jersey" And you know, as a side note, I almost also have this sense of gratitude to ADR, for giving Le Mond the chance. And as we're at it, to the TDF organisers who also allowed the wild card entry. Well, I think it was a wild card entry for ADR as they hadn't enough FICP points at the time, didn't they? Anyway...it was great to see the amount of publicity they did because they gave Le Mond the chance. It was a nice jersey too, even when not in yellow!!
@mustardjunkie
@mustardjunkie 15 жыл бұрын
EPO makes a 20% increase in sustainable power output and a 50% increase in submaximal ride to exhaustion tests. I think LeMond not using r-EPO probably had a factor. LeMond started the 1991 Tour de France at 150 pounds, 2 pounds over his 148 lb race weight. I doubt he backpedaled to 7th that year after winning with a lower sustainable power output the year before. Certainly he could have ridden better in 1992-94'.
@mustardjunkie
@mustardjunkie 15 жыл бұрын
LeMond was a total saint when it came to drugs and he even left PDM when one of the riders was busted for testosterone. EPO gives a 20% power increase in almost everyone, so a clean super-freak like LeMond has no chance in hell against a marginally talented rider doped on EPO. It was the end of an era and a very sad end to a genetic freak's career.
@braddref
@braddref 13 жыл бұрын
Laurent was the "Bad Guy" back then to us Americans,, we held Greg leaving Guimard against him, Laurent was all Ego in '89 and on and on and on,,,,, BUT, what a wonderful rider. I hope to read his book. Cycling lost a good one in Mr. Fignon. Greg, Me hero forever from that day to this.
@baroh2413
@baroh2413 14 жыл бұрын
"The cyclist who doesn't know how to lose cannot become a champion... but to lose like that, on the last day, with such a small gap, and principally because of handlebars that were banned under the rules, no, that was too much for one man,"
@kakaisking
@kakaisking 15 жыл бұрын
He could have been but it's highly unlikely as he was one of the few riders who actually called for more testing and he had to end his career early because he refused to take anything for his injuries.
@BobbyL80123
@BobbyL80123 15 жыл бұрын
I believe aerobars were a new thing to professional cycling at the time.... but they had been used by triathletes for years.
@nyaswed1520
@nyaswed1520 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Fignon (RIP) was an arrogant prick throughout the race. And the French press were even more arrogant. And LeMond took him (and them) apart at the final run. I watched it in Italy. People there were going NUTS the whole final run. They really understand cycling. The best sports memory I have. No doping, no payoffs. Just skill and guts.
@TaintedSoup
@TaintedSoup 3 жыл бұрын
why no one talking about this epic comeback story
@jelmerm4ever
@jelmerm4ever 14 жыл бұрын
WOW i dint know they even had old movies from the tour du france, WOW this guy is really fast :D
@mobystwin
@mobystwin 17 жыл бұрын
ubelievable. I have this on DVD, have watched it a hundred times and still get goosebumps seeing it.
@gat1240
@gat1240 12 жыл бұрын
This was the best. Fignon ,now deceased, lost the race but lost nothing in the hearts of millions. Greg introduced America to the Tour de France. I was in Paris on the final day of the 1981 tour and had no idea what was going on. I haven't missed a moment of coverage since Greg and Bernard Hinault raced. The Tour is the greatest event in sports.
@decker1215
@decker1215 15 жыл бұрын
Lemond is the greatest of all time!!!
@aznsketcher
@aznsketcher 15 жыл бұрын
aerobars were a new thing at the time? why was it so controversial?
@yesroh
@yesroh 13 жыл бұрын
Don't forget--LeMond's team was so weak, they only got into the Tour because LeMond was a former winner. Fignon gained something like 50+ seconds in the team time trial. He had teammates with him through the whole race. I think Fignon lost one teammate and LeMond lost five. The bars had been used for months before this race. 7-Eleven had been using them. They were legal. To lose because of bad equipment choices is still fair and square.
@yesroh
@yesroh 13 жыл бұрын
Fignon did not lose because of the handlebars. Had he worn his aero helmet, it would have made the difference in time. He also used two disc wheels to LeMond's one, which gained him time. If aerodynamics were so important, he would've worn that helmet. He knew the windtunnel tests showed an advantage, but he decided against it. It's history--LeMond won, Fignon, a great champion, but on this day, was beaten. I have great respect for both men.
@skatefranz
@skatefranz 16 жыл бұрын
he was clean! very IMPORTANT thing! Amstrong would never ride so good!
@CWake1
@CWake1 13 жыл бұрын
Lemond changed the game forever. He got very scientific with physiology and equipment (certainly influenced by the US vs USSR olympic programs of the day) and those who didn't get on board got left behind. This race was example no. 1 and from then on any rider aspiring to win the TdF must base their whole season on that one race. Lance took LeMond's legacy and built on it. Wouldn't it be nice though, if there were another Merckx or Hinault who were competitive all season long...
@socalrider909
@socalrider909 14 жыл бұрын
@baroh2413 The bars were not banned, the officials had a choice to allow or not allow the bars, they chose to let lemond use them.. Laurent even tried a similar bar prior to the final TT and he chose not to use them..
@dahgutone
@dahgutone 15 жыл бұрын
Not only that, disc wheels are very hard to go through corners if the course is very technical. (That is why most riders now prefer a spoked deep carbon wheel in the front and a disc in the rear) Disc wheels are also known to be slightly heavier and chattery than spoked wheels.
@checka1963
@checka1963 13 жыл бұрын
@JTN358AT Handlebars or not Greg Lemond rode at 54 km/h average speed, still the fastest time ever in a Tour de France TT. I think the defining thing was his superhuman fitness which no rider has surpassed even with all the technology improvements since. But it was surpising that Fignon chose to ride without an aero helmet too, never mind the bars. I can accept he would not want to change his riding position suddenly as a risky move, but the helmet/hair was not wise.
@daddylovesfaith
@daddylovesfaith 15 жыл бұрын
I agree. I remember being on the edge of my seat. It was SUCH a good decision by the organisers to finish with a time trial into Paris.
@lebowski114
@lebowski114 14 жыл бұрын
Just found out the Fignon had died. Watching this live in 89 was a privilage and you understand without villians, you do't have heroes and Fignon was always cast as the villian. Lemond with Fignon was like apple pie without cream and although I was a big fan of Lemond, it's sad to see Fignon pass away at a young age..The dude abides.
@keravankauhu
@keravankauhu 16 жыл бұрын
"Aero-ponytail?!" hahahahahaaaaa...
@yesroh
@yesroh 16 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where one can get a decent copy of the 1989 race, and I don't mean the boring version put out by Famous Cyling videos. I purchased that as soon as it hit the market in 1990 and immediately went back to watching the faded, static-ridden tapes I'd had from the television broadcast.
@oldfrend
@oldfrend 5 ай бұрын
a pity the tour never ends in a TT anymore. i always thought the Champs-Élysées victory lap was stupid. let them fight to the end. the tour was never better than this.
@PhillipCreeper
@PhillipCreeper 15 жыл бұрын
I agree with pete. It is a shame one of them had to lose. This has to be the most exciting TDF ever. It wasn't decided until the last day of the tour. Well done by both bikers. So close.
@socalrider909
@socalrider909 16 жыл бұрын
we have full versions on dvd of most Tour de France, Paris Roubaix and World championships from the mid 80's to early 1990's. I have already edited out all commercials. You can PM me for more info..
@Jambalyer10
@Jambalyer10 14 жыл бұрын
socalrider909, thanks for this video. I still remember 21 years ago. A day before the race Fignon said to Greg "It was a good race Greg, good race, better luck next year. c'mon 50 seconds 25 km. c'mon. good race Greg, good race" smiling
@circle559
@circle559 14 жыл бұрын
trust me.. it was the aero bars... it makes so much difference... i top 35 to 37 mph on the saddle when i use the aero bars
@Squiffy444
@Squiffy444 15 жыл бұрын
Huh? The Tour has finished with laps on the Camps Élysées since 1975. 1989 was the only year in which it ended with a time trial there.
@c-record
@c-record 11 жыл бұрын
the last time the Tour was won on friction shifting.
@WanderleiSilva29
@WanderleiSilva29 16 жыл бұрын
that is true.... Greg was the best American ever. Armstrong was awsome, but he did not face the field class that Greg faced. Indurain, Rominger, Pantani, etc were on their way out when Armstrong started winning. He really didnt have many credible riders to race against compared to lemond.
@socalrider909
@socalrider909 15 жыл бұрын
It was windy that day and a front disc in wind makes the bike hard to control..
@Plenum33
@Plenum33 15 жыл бұрын
A great moment for sure, but why spoil it by making a stupid comparison to another great champion? One thing's for certain, YOU couldn't hold either of their helmets. Neither could I.
@89rgarcia
@89rgarcia 14 жыл бұрын
RIP Laurent. We all remember when you were the tour de france champion in 1983 and 1984. RIP
@kinered
@kinered 14 жыл бұрын
I was in Paris last month. Finely, I undestand that the last miles of this time trial is the same of the circuit of the last stages of the last 15 year's tour de france
@sprintbass
@sprintbass 12 жыл бұрын
@socalrider909 well back then they were so new and i can see why fignon would not have wanted to use them so close to the final tt and crash or something happend...when you look at alot of rider set ups in the early days of tt they were all wrong and thier postion on the bike was horrible..it took a few years..flor a long time riders had them facing up ward but eventually by 93 94 they were flat and alot of work had been done to be not only comfy but efficent too..
@Jambalyer10
@Jambalyer10 14 жыл бұрын
Greg is an athlete that comes around once in a lifetime. The kind that everybody wants to meet because he's down to earth. He reminds me of Muhamad Ali who once said "i'm the greatest of all time" (in boxing that is). Greg once said "if not for the 50 pellets or so in my body i could have beaten all these guys with just one leg". Hahaha, that's everybody's hero. He's the greatest of all time (in cycling). After '89 cycling was never the same again. It's now a sport for the $ greedy cheaters.
@Jambalyer10
@Jambalyer10 14 жыл бұрын
The greatest moment in cyclling history. The greatest cyclist of all time. Every honest people's hero Greg LeMond. He was more popular in France than the French cyclist Fignon. Greg can go full power all the way because it's only 25km & the terrain was flat & almost downhill. On the other hand, Lance the greedy cheater could go full power for 200 kms going uphill - what a cheater Lance is. Go Greg go.
@tennsmoothie
@tennsmoothie 14 жыл бұрын
Greg Lemond America's greatest - 3 Tours, 2 Worlds - but was cut down at the peak of his career by a hunting accident - we never saw greg's best. armstrong's cancer recovery came before his cycling peak. lemond had to beat superior competition champions hinault , fignon, delgado, rouche, indurain. who did armstrong ever beat - jan fucking ulrich. lemond still owns the fastest time trial in Tour history - the miracle ride to victory on the final day of the 1989 Tour.
@vodkaboris
@vodkaboris 16 жыл бұрын
Fignon had an excruciatingly painful saddle sore which made it hard for him even to sit - look at the way he keeps shifting in his saddle. But that, along with tri-bars, helmets and a million other things, is part of the Tour; you race fate, the course and yourself just as much as you do your competitors. 1989 was also the 200th anniversary of the French Revolution. The French would have loved to have had a French winner that year. At least they got one with a French surname....
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