1992 Estoril Patrese accident

Originally posted by a member of TBK.

[@composimmonite3918]

It's incredible to think that Patrese and Schumacher were both racing together. Patrese's first season was 1977 and Schumacher's last was 2012!

[@Matijab.]

Hunt and Fittipaldi were racing with one, 3 drivers are still racing no matter they raced against another

[@matt_corbett]

Patrese - mobile chicane..

[@GrrMeister]

[@hippo4g93]

Hahahaha his last year Schumacher joined f1 😂 , neither both were in their primes what are you talking about

[@Prince_Vegeta_BMW]

Yes, and now we have Alesi 89' and Alonso 23'..

[@curryattack8985]

The 90’s. Grew up watching this. Such great racing. The voice of Murray Walker. A legend in his own right. I miss.

[@CarlosCostaX]

I was there, on the stand in front of the pit lane. Most of the spectators missed the flight, they were looking forward down the straight. I saw it, it looked like it was going to end terribly wrong. Incredible crash.

[@micman240]

In the 90's I lived right next door to the Donington circuit.... as an F1 fan in those days you could just wander in on non public test days with a nod from the team manager and stand by the car watching the team work.. and in some cases conversing with them... absolutely brilliant. One day I was up there and Ricardio was doing brake testing drives in the Williams. He went out early did two laps and came back in... all the mechanics looking at each other wondering why. I stood three feet away from Ricardo when he pulled the car into the pit and the mechanic asked him what was wrong... As a fan enthralled at the technical mastery of these highly paid drivers who knew how to undertake complex car set ups in order to win... I waited with baited breath for his wise techical feedback (the guy was on a million a season even in those days) .. He said to his mechanics.. and I quote ... 'It goes in the corner but it won't come out'.

[@lesshrubb203]

Those were the days, brilliant commentating from James and Murray and no adverts. AND it was FREE!

[@martingonzalez2850]

What's free about the BBC?

[@ulysse21]

Brillinat from James ?... 0:26 he sayed "a very agressive stuff from Patrese" while it was clearly an agressive defensive move from Berger. Hunt was full of hatred towards Patrese until his death. He never changed his mind about Monza 1978, because if he had done so like anyone else at the time, he would have had to live with a terrible weight of guilt for Peterson's death. On the other hand, his opinions on Latin drivers were always marked by a certain amount of contempt and even racism. Even here after the accident at Estoril he put all the responsability on Patrese while it was all Bergers fault. Incredible how he was blinded by his own stupid bias

[@404TVfr]

​@@ulysse21 god, what a word salad...

[@ulysse21]

@@404TVfr when you have no arguments on social media, you'd better turn into an english teacher

[@404TVfr]

@@ulysse21 What?

[@GuidossInnit]

Got to love Murray’s reaction

[@composimmonite3918]

Got to love Murray. Full stop.

[@nathanwilliams2152]

It was scary to see this. Patrese just missed the bridge and the attenuated barrier at the end of the pit lane whilst flying at 160mph. Very lucky. Thierry Boutsen - the next man behind this pair, saw the whole thing, and thought Patrese was at least seriously injured, and recalled that he nearly got out of his car.

[@jghjghjghish]

late 80s and early 90s cars were beautiful

[@anthonylarson7919]

best era....

[@zoranvules5923]

100%

[@simonecanepa8168]

This accident is similar to one occurred at Gills Villeneuve in 1982, but in this case Patrese was not ejected from the car and remained alive

[@josiewallace7968]

Shows how frightening this accident looked that even James Hunt was relieved he was ok

[@nathanwilliams2152]

@@josiewallace7968- he did criticise Patrese’s recollection later in the broadcast oddly enough. Patrese mistakenly said Berger chopped him (but there was no hand signal from Berger), and Hunt said “if that’s his best recollection…maybe his long and illustrious career is quite long enough, in the interest of his own safety”. Schumacher, Senna and Martini then had tyre or suspension problems as the marshals couldn’t clean the track up - was a horrible crash.

[@TheSmokingGunmen]

I remember watching this my heart stopped for a moment thinking that was going to be a fatal crash. Ricardo was a great driver and a good team mate for Mansel. Back in the days when Williams were awesome.

[@natazeze]

good slave you mean for Mansel?

[@Kibouo]

2:46 it’s a testament to the safety of F1 cars today that commentators generally no longer react like this to crashes as it’s unlikely it’ll be fatal, unlike Murray who would have seen many fatal crashes over the years

[@unclemick-synths]

Murray and James ... probably still fighting over the mic in heaven!

[@Mr.Wonder1ng]

Looks like Patrese just didn’t recognize Berger was going into the pits, too focused on slipstreaming to pass. How dramatic!

[@unclemick-synths]

I wondered at first why they didn't just cut to the crash but setting the scene reminded me what a battle that was. In hindsight it was obvious Berger would pit because he was catching those other cars. These days the voice in Patreze's ear would have been predicting Berger's move.

[@pgr3290]

The FW14B was easily the most sophisticated F1 car built in 1992 but by today's standards seem simple, tiny and flimsy. This is a 505kg machine. If your driver weighs 75kg in 2023 then your car is well over 700kg. I love how agile and darty they seem.

[@andysmart5586]

Today’s cars are look a like tanks

[@therrydicule]

It's still is one of the most sophisticated F1 ever with all the gizmos on this thing...

[@Ferdish3]

@@therrydicule Indeed. That car was ahead of its time. The undisputed proof is that the legendary Adrian Newey worked on it 😁Both Williams and McLaren made a considerable progress after Newey joined them in early and late 90s respectively. Which is quite a shame, considering where both teams are right now, at the beginning of 2023 season. Williams has been in one big struggle for last few years, but McLaren is a total catastrophe of wasted potential, especially when the trend started to look better for them during 2019-2021 period.

[@Nikelaos_Khristianos]

I was going to say, but someone beat me to it, FW14B actually remained the most sophisticated F1 car ever even into the 2010s. 😅 It was a genuine space-ship. Its suspension was completely programmable and it could learn the physical topography of the race-track and adapt the ride height accordingly, it was completely immune to porpoising... This technology has been banned since 1993!

[@timjohnun4297]

1992 was almost the peak of sophistication, all driver aids were banned in 1994 after Senna's crash. And people still think today's cars are "Driven by computers" lol

[@moreheff]

"Ricardo Patrese is looking very shaken" was the pit lane reporters comment. I should have thought he was in shock, let alone shaken!! Lucky to walk away. Also lucky he did not fly over the barrier. Lucky man. But listen to the sound of those engines screaming. Proper old school engine noise.

[@Phoenixspin]

I'm so happy it turned out OK. That was ugly.

[@rickyspanish6429]

Family bbqs were a bit awkward after this: "No Ricardo, YOU are supposed to flip the Berger...." 🤣

[@kevinprior3549]

Definitely remember this when it was on at the time.

[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

Nice to see Michael Schumacher at the start of his F1 career. Can you believe it, a rock when skiing, after all this? 😐 James Hunt and Murray Walker - the Ying and Yang of F1 commentary - sadly both gone now too, but of 'natural' causes - red wine and chain smoking and loose ladies in Hunt the Shunt's case.

[@kevinprior3549]

Them Ligiers in 1992 were really beautiful cars.

[@andrewbergman9315]

I miss actual fighting for positions not gifted DRS overtakes that cannot be defended. Anyway this accident is due to poor circuit design since the pit entry is off the main straight, Patrese had no idea Berger was going to enter the pits there.

[@unclemick-synths]

Yep, DRS has served its purpose - the aero changes are succeeding in letting the cars get in close. At best DRS should be reserved for making marginal opportunities into possible opportunities, not easy passes.

[@Huger_Games]

Weird to see Martini not in a Minardi…. Although he ended up in a usual minardi position, on the side of the track!!

[@gnubbolo]

lol

[@dbizzo]

He unfortunatelly get so close to react just when Berger slow a bit to enter for a box stop...

[@mikeb6385]

When ever I see that Williams I just have to watch, even if nothing happens..

[@chrisarkwright6876]

I remember this at the time, Berger didn't put his hand up as he went into the pits and Patrese didn't realise what was happening until heading skywards!

[@vanhelsing16]

Why should Berger put his hand up. It was evident, that he wanted to box. If Patrese would have stayed on the left side of the track as usual, nothing would have happened.

[@chrisarkwright6876]

@Heimo Manner He didn't have to but it was common (presumably not so much now with the raised cockpits) to signal that you were going in the pits by raising you hand as you pulled across/had mechanical issues etc. Even Berger said this and from then on made sure he made a point of doing it clearly. However in this instance with Patrese so close and determined to overtake he probably just thought Berger was defending by going off line and when he slowed for the pits was caught out. Still had good reaction as he nearly got clear.

[@terrystevens5261]

@@vanhelsing16 Drivers always put their hand up back then when slowing for whatever reason.

[@timjohnun4297]

@@vanhelsing16 Patrese was trying to slipstream him, obviously

[@soilentgreen7]

@@vanhelsing16 thats what they did back then

[@BuenoAndrade]

Época bonita hein!

[@2mmarcelorj]

Eh msm e ainda por cima ti chamo o Senna

[@gdogg3710]

Berger involved in at least three horrifying accidents in his career, two of which were in consecutive seasons at this circuit…

[@h.a.9880]

I really wonder if F1 could go back to a simple aero setup like in these days, which seemed to have allowed much better racing. Then again, the weight and size of modern F1 cars would mean that the cars would be significantly slower, especially through corners, so would that be worth it? If a 10% decrease in speed meant racing like this, in my eyes, it would.

[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

Murray Walker even mentioned Nigel Mansell when he was commentating rallycross at Lydden Hill. Get a room both!

[@andredeketeleastutecomplex]

lol

[@KrustyKlown]

When Cigerettes powered F1's budgets.

[@terrystevens5261]

I remember when Alan jones drove a Durex sponsored Surtees, the BBC wouldn't broadcast any footage of it on track.

[@ab348]

I could never understand how and why Labatt could afford to sponsor Williams. They were a large brewery by Canadian standards but tiny in comparison to other multinational ones.

[@terrystevens5261]

@@ab348 They were co-sponsors with Canon and others in this clip, so they didn't have to bare the brunt of sole sponsorship.

[@jrp312]

@@terrystevens5261 Canon were actually the title sponsor, but I’m sure about the difference in budget provided by them vs Camel

[@ptrichie71]

Patrese n Berger two of the best No2 drivers from my era watching F1

[@O-QUESTÃO1976]

Eu me lembro que nessa corrida a Williams estava testando o FW15 para a temporada de 93...Notei que o FW15 É muito superior ao da Mclaren de Berger muito rápido em reta...

[@MaxScooterfan]

What a stupid mistake Patrese made. In 1992, I didn’t know yet that I would root for him)))) p.s. The most beautiful cars and liveries in the early 90s!

[@stevecooksley]

You really had to earn a pass back then before DRS took all the skill out of overtaking. Now you can once again follow cars closely DRS should be binned.

[@DiegoRuiz1991]

At least they should lessen the effects, reduce how flat the wing goes

[@freedomisslavery6840]

Agree. DRS is absolutely awful and needs to go.

[@Nikelaos_Khristianos]

Berger's defence here really was quite good actually. The Williams in 92 was ALOT quicker than the McLaren, so Berger really did do his best to make life as hard for Patrese as possible.

[@verticalflyingb737]

Thank the gap of cars' performances between the teams nowadays for DRS!

[@mjaakkoful]

Achually Williams introduced push to pass feature in their active suspension cars as well. It supposedly lowered rear suspension to decrease drag and raised engine's rpm limit.

[@jasmijnariel]

2 guys that walked in the shadow of senna and mansell

[@kaiserlost5617]

Amazing crash and amazing subtitle, Gerhard Burger!! Crazy

[@PaulGBass]

You utter retard. Gerhard was world champion material, Patrese was at best a lowly no.2. Berger was as fast as Senna, just less motivated and cunning. Patrese was nowhere near mansell ability and Mansell was nowhere near senna ability

[@tedoydislake]

Patrese era un tipo realmente peligrosísimo.

[@graylouch8419]

Great eara for cars and drivers 👏👍

[@dougtaylor7724]

I was watching that live. Remember thinking “he’s dead” when the car went airborne.

[@neillp3827]

No he died in 1993 of a heart attack, prob from hitting the coke a bit too hard and rooting all those birds. (Not the budgies)

[@giovannigino3675]

If Patrese 's car falled inside the pit-lane instead of outside, it could be a slaughter. However, it was Berger's fault 100%.: he had to rise his arm if he wanted to go to the pits. I apologize for my shaky English.

[@carlosag4016]

@@neillp3827 Me too!!!

[@R9naldo]

That doesn't look like a deadly accident at all even by 90s standards

[@PopulationProblem]

one yellow flag out, no safety car, no moving the car out the way, no moving the debris off the track...old skool

[@terrystevens5261]

I remember when Roger Williamson was killed in Holland they just threw a tarpualin over the burned out wreck with him in it. they didn't even stop the race. Jackie Stewart went on to win the race.

[@AbouTaim-Lille]

That crash went terribly wrong and it punished the wrong driver. It was Berger who started the problem by being rude afew laps earlier , But it was partrese who payed the price of Berger rudeness.

[@cristianodummel316]

A ultrapassagem do Gerhard Berger no Riccardo Patrese foi sensacional!

[@jasmijnariel]

The last generation that could drive, drift and slide

[@paulmca8514]

This was back in the day when F1 was actually great to watch more often than not- I don`t think I have watched a full F1 race since 2000 or so. Oh dear, Oh dear says James Hunt, slight understatement. F1 cars are not meant to do wheelies, thankfully he was ok.

[@joaoleitao3320]

When F1 was great .

[@thecarpetman7687]

Terrible driving by patrese…he just got fixated on Berger and didn’t realise he was going into the pits

[@alanandrade6359]

Patrese com uma super máquina dessa na mão , ganhou apenas 1 corrida apenas, em 1992....

[@alessandrodorsi9800]

Rightly said Mr Murray Walker : thanks Heaven , because this is a miracle

[@Pantha242]

I had the VHS of this race for years because of that crash.. The old Estoril circuit was awesome before they ruined it with that double hairpin chicane.. 🤔

[@winwinogaming]

Looks like Patrese didn't realize Berger was heading into the pits and was surprised by Berger's sudden deceleration.

[@natazeze]

that's obvious

[@brunaosampa]

patrese sempre foi um belo braço !!!

[@Johnny_Thunder]

Huge crash on the front straight yet the race keeps going on. These days they would red flag it.

[@neilmartin3220]

They respected yellow flags in those days.

[@martinbielby334]

After this accident Gerhard started putting his hand up everytime he was entering the pit lane to let others know he was pitting!

[@vrohoulasg]

give us back those PUs, that SOUND!

[@terrystevens5261]

Yes i agree but prefer the term engine, pu infers something to do with electric.

[@MyNicolinho]

I watched the accident here in KZbin in October 2012 and I scared when Patrese's Williams did a horrific crash to Berger's McLaren! 😲😲😲😲😲😲

[@natazeze]

back in october 2012 i was at the beach

[@lphones6428]

When motor racing was great,

[@JakobusVdL]

These days, the radio comms to the driver would probably mean that Patrese would have been informed that Berger was about to pit. And the stewards would have been having a look at some of Bergers defensive moves!

[@heliumtrophy]

And they'd probably stop the race when the drivers complain about debris cutting up the tyres therefore making everything seem anticlimactic.

[@thecolourrose9022]

One of his many

[@thatmarkguy]

Hunt: Ooh dear Murray: OHHWHHHHH Murray was a totally different class of commentator, and I think responsible for modern commentary having the energy it does

[@MICHAELTUCKER-eg2ub]

I remember this incident well but always believed there was a similar incident when a car got big air. Either it was Japanese driver or Chinese and his name began with the letter T. Can anyone help?

[@MrJohnnyquark]

Ukyo katayama, also in the same straight in the same circuit, a few years later

[@MICHAELTUCKER-eg2ub]

@@MrJohnnyquark thank you for speedy response

[@Pierieliepiepielozzy]

I think you may be referring to the crash of Crhistian Fittipaldi a year later in Monza.

[@MICHAELTUCKER-eg2ub]

@@Pierieliepiepielozzy thank you. Yes it's that one. Just searched for it on YT. It was brutal

[@terrystevens5261]

@@Pierieliepiepielozzy Didn't he cross the finish line going backwards after landing.

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

Imagine being blocked by a burger.

[@mikej3129]

'Aaggghhh ahhha' from Murray

[@tomsawyer2112]

How stupid can they be to make it possible to hit a car slowing down to the pit lane, didnt the cars have a blinker or any rear lights ?

[@42much1]

The driver in front luckily was not Senna. If it was, he would be accused of dirt driving.

[@luisangelvalenti]

02:38 en épocas de efecto suelo Patrese hubiera tenido un final trágico como el de Villeneuve o Pironi.

[@protalukoriginal4560]

Exacto

[@arquitectoenlinea4187]

Que cadáver este Patrese...recién acabo de ver otro accidente de el en 1992

[@el_p1nko]

Good times, back then when they didn‘t screw every race with a safety car at any opportunity.

[@terrystevens5261]

Yeah, really good times. i remember Roger Williams's car burnt out with his body still in it at Zandvoort and they didn't stop the race at all with Stewart going on to win. really good times. fuckwit.

[@eladioduarte8327]

Como sonaba ese motor v12 de la honda

[@jasmijnariel]

Back in the days when drs didnt ruin it all😊

[@seanbonella]

Very scary

[@markburgess4528]

Back when F1 was worth watching and the drivers didn't act like whining kids.

[@MatzS56]

Great he got out unharmed! 🙏🏼

[@sam21462]

"Oh dear"

[@LukeVesty]

Was this Patrese's accident or Walker's? The guy sounded like he fell off a cliff.

[@terrystevens5261]

He always sounded like that, a true legend of British sporting commentary.

[@huwzebediahthomas9193]

F1 cars were very twitchy then, dangerously so. Is this the fella that lost his legs? Or was it worse, fatal?

[@terrystevens5261]

No, you are thinking of Alex Zanardi, he also drove for Williams and three other teams in F1, then went to Indy racing. after that he took up paralympics successfully.

[@aberamagold7509]

Pierre Luigi Martini. That's just a great name.

[@waltercrema4982]

Gli è andata di culo qui...se avesse capottato non so come sarebbe andata a finire....Un saluto al grande Patrese 😃👍

[@giovannigino3675]

Se fosse atterrato dentro alla corsia box anziché fuori, sarebbe stata una strage. Grande Patrese !!

[@robair67]

Most drivers put up a hand when they are going to pit. Especially when they know there's a challenger right behind them. Not impressed with Berger here.

[@lwalker8785]

Actually no most drivers don't have time to do that. Anyway Patrese had plenty of room to get past him. He was following too close considering his poor reflexes.

[@robair67]

@@lwalker8785 at every pre-race briefing from tin tops to formula one, the Clerk of the Course politely requests all drivers let following competitors know they are about to leave the track to pit, when racing. They don't ask drivers to do that for fun, every time a car passes the pit road entrance the potential exists for them to take that route instead of the main track, thus making it possible for an unexpected deceleration in front of a car on full commitment. As for Patrese's reflexes, the average reaction time for all humans is about 0.1 second. The very fastest 5 percentile of population is around 0.08 seconds, so not much difference in real terms. If a different driver was in Patrese's position at that moment, they would have also collected Berger's car, unless he'd put his hand up on the previous straight, like a gentleman should. I'm no fan of either driver, but even if I hated Patrese with a passion, I couldn't let that emotion blind me to the fact that my more personally favoured driver baulked him and caused a highly dangerous accident.

[@terrystevens5261]

@@lwalker8785 Most drivers did that back in the day, not so practical these days with high cockpits and the Hans device.

[@Ding_Bat]

That McLaren just brushed it off and got back to racing.

[@rowds]

I don't think Hunt was too concerned for Patrese. Didnt he blame him for Ronnie's death?

[@danielaengel3675]

The starter of the race was responsible for the accident. He released the race too early, when the rear vehicles had not yet come to a standstill. Ricardo Patrese took his chance and accelerated immediately when the light turned green too early. Any racing driver would have done that to get to the front. .

[@kg0173]

Luckily Berger didn't get damage and could finish 2nd.

[@Matrxmonky]

@2:44 for those who are looking.

[@wattyler4624]

Back in the day when Maclarn could get real sponsorship money and the racing was competitive and watchable not like now

[@brunao322011]

Berger reduce for box

[@gino3286]

How many races and how many wins?

[@4622201]

Patrese was a dangerous one !!!

[@robertwilloughby8050]

Patrese to the first person he recognised after the accident, who happened to be British - "As you British say, Bollocks!"😅

[@jparker1901]

Where is the McLaren after the contact?

[@mathieuschafer1360]

Backrooms

[@Z0RDR4CK]

he was heading for the pits, that is why it looked like he almost disappeared. for some reason his car didn't took any serious damage and he was able to finish the race in 2nd place behind Senna.

[@montyjohnson4741]

These are the most hilarious subtitles I have EVER read!

[@wilhelmvg9978]

“Thank goodness Fugazi is okay!” Lol

[@markafc_]

"Oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah well let us hope and pray that Ricardo for trainees is alright.." Brilliant.

[@wilhelmvg9978]

@@markafc_ LMAO

[@TransoceanicOutreach]

2:45 - Murray spills hot tea on his groin.

[@albeback5234]

only unholy ghost of holy halo ( hallowed be thy name) has saved them both + at least half hundred motherlovers on the stands

[@reconquistaahead1602]

Patrese, detto "il camionista" per il suo stile di guida raffinato ed esente da incidenti.

[@GrandPrixDecals]

Someone needs to do a comprehensive list of all the Italian nick names for F1 drivers - translated to English - because they are always accurate, often hilarious. UK / Italia share the passion!

[@reconquistaahead1602]

@@GrandPrixDecals well, that was a nickname that we used among friends watching F1 in our glorious youth time. I don't have the pretension to make it a nationwide nickname. Probably we gave the same nickname to the late Andrea de Cesaris, God bless his soul. He wrecked probably more cars alone than all the wolkswagen crash test engineers put together. Anyway with such drivers we were sure to watch always something funny. God bless. 😎✋

[@LeftIsBest001]

12 sec pit stop changed the tyres AND nose cone on Schumacher's Benetton.

[@andersonp8597]

Se essa barra de suspensão se rompe e acerta na cabeça do piloto teria sido fatal devido ao impacto.

[@pauloroberto6414]

Esse carro da Willians era lindo...

[@Irevoltnow]

Formula cars need blinkers. Would have been avoided if Berger had them, LOL

[@natazeze]

LOL

[@PaulGBass]

Patrese's fault, he was never any good. Like De Cesaris, Patrese spent many years in F1 being an incompetent no.2

[@nutsackmania]

i dont usually say something about video quality but

[@terrystevens5261]

It was 31 years ago, what sort of quality were you hoping for ? 1080 or UHD perhaps.

[@PabloGarcia-sj5pm]

Ninguno tuvo culpa. Patrese estaba obligado a meterse en la succión. Y Berger no tenía como avisarle que disminuirïa la velocidad para ir a pits🤷🤷

[@cerneuffington2656]

Berger finished in second place 🙂

[@JoseSuarez-wd8qz]

Verter levantó a propósito

[@andyracksthecams]

Proper F1. Like music, the best era has gone. It is all downhill now. Spoilt by greed.