Stevie Ray Vaughan Reaction: Classical Guitarist REACTS to Texas Flood Live at the El Mocambo

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[@philshorten3221]

For audience joy check out Audience Sings Queens Bohemian Rhapsody at Green Day Concert😉 Or For huge audience getting "into it" AC/DC Thunderstruck Live at River Plate

[@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523]

srv was able to reconnect with his angel spirit in his flesh ... he is under full "possession"/connection too (you gotta ask for "holy spirit " connection too our creator (master) Jehovah' "holy spirit"... its willed connection/"possession" ... its amazing ... well srv is under holy spirit connection and is "in tune" with nature like a tuning fork so hes become a maestro of harmonics/"music" ...

[@christopherwelsh7008]

I really appreciated your humility as I watched you get your first taste of the 9th Wonder of The World! You are not the first to struggle to find the words to describe SRV- The G.O.A.T

[@LyonsDenRez]

8:14 When he puts the guitar behind his back. He unhooks his guitar strap as he’s turning and re-hooks it behind his back without missing a beat!! You’re in for a treat with SRV!!!

[@rocky8758]

You really need to listen to some Hendrix .

[@RichardGriffis]

You went from never having heard of Stevie Ray to never being able to forget him

[@gloriaweeks6206]

Awesome way to say it !

[@kidwave1]

He TOOK THE RIDE!

[@markwillingham5343]

Happens to us all

[@briwatson5932]

Happened to me 30 years ago and I'm still here...

[@harlenburke8535]

40 years ago and yeah you never forget seein Stevie live !!!

[@JohnWarner-lu8rq]

It still brings tears to my eyes knowing that we lost Stevie way too soon. He was blessed with a gift that most will never attain. RIP, Stevie.

[@NunYaO]

Check out Ren Gill, from Wales via Brighton, UK.

[@JohnWarner-lu8rq]

@@NunYaO There are many good guitarists who have come, are still around, or have gone.... Gary Moore, Kenny Wayne Sheppard, etc. They all had their own styles. Ren isn't doing anything that hasn't been done before, and better. He's actually somewhat boring and mediocre.

[@rottenrobbie66]

Yes having lived in Austin during his heyday, I got to see him play live many times . I also got to see all the greats that came through town . And I can say that no one ever came close to doing what Stevie Ray did on guitar. He was simply the best bar none.

[@masapell]

Amen!

[@TonySop]

No one has or will be able to fill his shoes. Truly one of a kind. SRV are Hendrix are the two that can’t be topped.

[@gmb858]

Eric Clapton said "Stevie was a channel... he never ran out of ideas, never lost his place... it just flowed through him."

[@toddmueller]

And that Stevie never got stuck, like Clapton explained how he would get stuck as others often did. I found that quote telling.

[@HS-hr5wp]

Well he got stuck on Eric's heli...

[@toddmueller]

@@HS-hr5wp 😥

[@HS-hr5wp]

@@toddmueller aCertain3LetterAgency

[@rchuso]

Eric Clapton once said that when he first heard SRV (on the radio, when he was driving), he had to pull over to the side of the road and listen.

[@midnitesunblues]

This is my first time to your channel. I stayed to watch you get baptized with an SRV Texas Flood. So much more to this man. He was a kind and humble soul who said that his talent was a gift from God that he worked hard to pay back. Paid in full, Stevie. Paid In Full.

[@kierstenridgway4634]

Same here

[@BarbButler]

💙💙💙💙💙

[@standbarrett755]

Well said.

[@95percentair]

Same! Watching SRV reactions, 40 yrs after i fell in love, is a true joy, right in the heart. A montage of reactions to this one performance would be a blast.

[@webbtrekker534]

Same here, first time. Thanks!

[@212x3]

Stevie is the GOAT. Everything from that "El Mocambo" concert is incredible. As well as his stuff from "Austin City limits" and his playing with Jonny Copeland.

[@jdbroders64]

Totally agree. The live at El Mocambo is one of the best live performances ever recorded bar none. He was on fire as was the band and it captured an amazing musical moment in time. Man, I wish I could've been there in person. Brilliant.

[@roberthewitt9054]

​@@jdbroders64I was there, and the whole show was phenomenal. RIP SRV

[@markbernier8434]

I was. Epic.@@jdbroders64

[@DavidSS131]

No matter how many times I have heard both performances, still give me goosebumps every single time.

[@AhcahkKamihkosihtMahihkan]

El Mocambo man....fricken amazing. Spadina. My brother was a guitarist (he's passed now) but he LOVED Stevie and cried all day playing his guit when Stevie went home.

[@615GuitarSlinger]

That man isnt playin that guitar. That guitar is playin him. The most gifted most badass guitar player earth has ever known

[@bigmike2464]

They were one; the Guitar was an extension of himself

[@billsingletary4516]

Yes.

[@IH8thortay]

No doubt.

[@santosmadrigal3702]

The Blues is about a good man feeling bad .

[@tonydelapa1911]

Raise your hand if you were saying “just wait!” First time on your channel sir. This was terrific. Thank you.

[@helenwilliams7065]

It's not just blues, my man, it's Texas Blues served up by the G.O.A.T

[@Markstun]

Stevie’s sense of rhythm was just unbelievable, Every riff comes out perfectly

[@Blue-ff2qv]

Every note, he makes you hear every note, and when he really likes the note he drags it out for 30 seconds while your spine tingles.

[@malcolmcooke2024]

Rhythm and swing and the beautiful variation in the loudness and bending of notes e\he also loved jazz guitar and was a pretty mean at that in his later works you can also hear a lot of jazz influences

[@KB-ke3fi]

@@malcolmcooke2024 Texas Swing

[@JohnWarner-lu8rq]

Stevie Ray Vaughan is the GOAT of Blues guitarists. He could channel most every Blues guitarists, including Hendrix, BB King, and others.

[@Gort-Marvin0Martian]

He is the G.O.A.T.. Even before playing behind his back he very rarely even looks at where his fingers are on the fret board. He knows every inch of that land. Your reaction was spot on. He was born in Dallas Texas and started playing night clubs when he was 14. His brother Jimmy Vaughn is also a great guitarist. As we say in Texas; y'all be safe.

[@jt9947]

I saw Stevie and Jimmie at KC in 87-88 area at Memorial Auditorium. Not looking at fingers is a lesson for every profession. Don't look... feel and do. Sight is a crutch

[@mattattack4765]

That smile on your face stayed there for the entire video. Guitarists know

[@josetrejo1801]

U JUST WITNESSED THE GREATEST MUSICAL PERFORMANCE IN THE HISTORY OF MUSIC. SRV IS THE ONLY HUMAN BEING TO MAKE A GUITAR SMOKE A CIGARETTE AFTER HE FINISHES PLAYING IT.

[@jm12green31]

Haha yeah exactly

[@sirgaryo]

🤣😂👌👌👌👌

[@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523]

this internet troll prolly stole the genius line "his guitar smoke a cigarette" from another troll that stole it from a troll doing amateur video maker "reaction videos" to other peoples amateur videos ...

[@thunderheads4103]

SRV is the greatest Guitarist of all time. Hands down. Music flowed out of him. It was unrehearsed, straight from the hip. He was music, his hands and fingers. Man, Stevie was the Music.

[@snappertrx]

Saw someone here on KZbin say: After being played by Stevie Ray, the guitar needed a cigarette.

[@cortinaman1671]

Thats also why he played an old guitar, what he did to it would otherwise have been illegal.

[@JonathanBranmham]

Most definitely the poor old guitar needed a break and a cigarette my friend

[@dj-um7el]

Lmao fr

[@lizwagstaff6494]

I’ve said that before, but I’m sure I’m not the only one ❤️🎸🎩🎸❤️

[@stevesheroan4131]

I always said that his guitar needed to put out a restraining order on him.

[@jazzmaan707]

Stevie is considered the Greatest Blues Guitar Player of all time. He also plays classical guitar, on a few of his recordings.

[@NunYaO]

You're one of the few who knows that...

[@stevenmeyer9674]

Playing an acoustic guitar is not the same as playing classical. What classical composers did he play?

[@jazzmaan707]

@@stevenmeyer9674 Stevie played Roll Over With Beethoven. See? That's classical music. Right? HA, HA, HA.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/fH_IpIuIltRgd7M

[@nancybrewer8494]

Classical guitar has nothing to do with what you might think are classical composers.

[@stevenmeyer9674]

@@nancybrewer8494 And playing acoustic with metal stings. is not the same as playing a classical guitar with nylon strings, would you agree?

[@Prone2Thrill]

SRV didn't plug into an amp - he plugged into his soul. Check out his duet with Johnny Copeland on "Tin Pan Alley" it's the meanest blues duet I've ever seen/heard. R.I.P. Goat

[@Lee-u1f]

This is widely considered to be the greatest live guitar performance ever caught on film.

[@flyingardilla143]

I saw one of his last concerts a few days before the crash. So grateful for that experience.

[@markvanderstelt8999]

i thought that was you at that show.

[@kenthomas4668]

I was at Alpine Valley the show before his last. I found the cd recorded from the soundboard

[@friendsmakingmusic1751]

It is so much fun watching someone losing their Vaughanginity! Welcome to the family!

[@jorgejaramillo1968]

Stevie Ray was more than capable of playing an acoustic guitar, he did a performance on MTV unplugged on six and 12 string guitar .

[@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523]

he used acoustic strings on his electric guitars ...

[@douglascampbell9809]

If you search KZbin you can find a recording of him playing a beat up acoustic guitar for an interview in Europe. Stevie makes it sound like a dream.

[@JohnWarner-lu8rq]

Imagine how strong Stevie's fingers were to warp the strings the way he did, because he used the 2nd heaviest strings available.

[@ericmills9839]

It’s nuts, even tuned to E flat.

[@btv7206]

I think that’s what makes what Stevie did even more impressive…. Like for the life of me I can’t understand how he’s able to do his massive bends, his runs, his whole playing as fast and precise as he does…… He had biceps in his fingers…

[@anthonyscott4547]

his fingers were so strong he had to use .12 gauge strings and put bass frets on that neck to keep from breaking them. nobody else could even play that guitar. that includes bb king and clapton. they just handed it back to him and shook their heads while stevie laughed at them... greatest blues guitarist of all time

[@toddlynch867]

I managed a music hall in the early 80s and had Stevie Ray twice. I’ve seen them all and he was the best ever. I took him some George Dickle and he said sit down here with me and have a drink. So I proceeded to pour us shots and he played that guitar unplugged for about 20 minutes. Man what a blessing. Humble nice guy and so talented that the music just flowed out of him. Tremendous concert!

[@drobichaud1000]

Right. Then you woke up.

[@RalphDavis-qk2xy]

I'm 79 years old, and I got chills from that.

[@jdbroders64]

SRV was an amazing gift for the short time we had his genius and virtuosity. He was channeling something beautiful and single-handedly revitalized blues/rock during a time when I can remember it was said that the genre was dead. RIP brother Stevie. You are missed.

[@lathedauphinot6820]

It was almost dead, except in Austin and a couple other places where the old blues masters were welcomed, and younger white kids tried to keep it going. It was considered old folks’ music, like big band swing and early rock & roll.

[@nickshaw6085]

Well said, man!

[@margaretroebuck2938]

He wasn't possessed by the guitar gods he WAS a guitar god.

[@dropbarracuda]

The second I saw this video in my feed, I stopped everything I was doing to come watch. You got it exactly right, its like he's possessed by the guitar gods; I feel the same. Thank you for this one, and thanks to whomever recommended it! 🙏🏻 🔥

[@jackieannsims2871]

I did the same thing

[@ryanr5319]

Amen.

[@jackscott5593]

SRV ~ 🎸🐐 The goatiest goat in all of goatness **Life Without You at Capitol Theater** **Voodoo Child at Austin City Limits 1989**

[@Venomroos]

He's the reason I started listening to blues... He's version of Little Wing in beautiful!

[@robertdenson3375]

The best blues and rock player of his generation for sure. I saw him live twice right around this time in his career . Absolutely unreal.

[@Mr.Ekshin]

What's perhaps most impressive is that most guitarists would break their fingers trying to play that guitar. Stevie got that "thick" sound by using VERY thick strings. Watching him bend those notes, just mashing those strings across the neck with ease... is kind of amazing.

[@daveman_50]

Yep. The high E string was .013, low E .060. Very difficult to play ANYTHING on such a heavy string set, let alone what Stevie is doing.

[@DamagedButManaging]

He spent his spare time piching gravel into dust with those damn fingers. My tips bleed just thinking about it

[@ryanr5319]

That was sort of callous. 😊 SRV is a phenomenon.

[@missionrd100]

​@@ryanr5319Callous? It was blistering 😂

[@KevyNova]

@@daveman_50he used a custom set with a G string that was much lighter. I use 11-54 but just recently learned that his G was much lighter than mine, even though the E strings were bigger.

[@berndtherrenvolk1951]

I've never seen someone whose guitar, mind, body and soul all seemed one living thing.

[@hy.avamarie]

I’ve seen this video more than 200 times and it’s still amazing to see people reacting to SRV for the first time. Clearly his tragically short life lends itself to thousands of new listeners constantly. What a legend he is for the world to continue to discover his brilliance. RIP SRV❤❤❤❤❤

[@irmacavazos8186]

I visited his statue in Austin, Texas recently and felt his spirit nearby. My twin boys took me. I am 82 and a big fan. 💯❤️🌹🙏

[@WillemdaGuide]

It's a term used way too often these days but Stevie truly is the GOAT!

[@McMillanScottish]

I feel like a cat with 10 lives for having seen him in all his glory in about 1988. His brother's band opened up. Truly unforgettable night.

[@kerrypickens8594]

I saw him beginning in high school and he was just a kid himself playing in night clubs. He played at the Rome Inn in Austin all the time with his brother and Lou Ann Barton.

[@danapierson7207]

My absolute favorite guitarist!!! Number one!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤

[@aa-qx1cg]

This guy can make the guitar scream so intensely you are holding onto your chair, then in the next moment he's playing so softly you can hear the amp humming in the background.

[@pommie5093]

Simply said, he is the GOAT. SRV and his guitars were one.

[@mrmiscast]

I love people's reactions to Stevie. Especially those in the music world who can play. I heard a quote from Jimmy Vaughan years ago about Stevie. "Ya know he couldn't read music at all, and for him it was just another chance to play on stage". This is just how good the man was. It was just another gig for him and this is what Everyone got, Everywhere he went.

[@sgholt]

A Texas Hero and Legend....may he rest in peace...

[@Wallofdenial50]

He didn’t play guitar, he lived guitar.

[@NotStanleyTucci]

No separation between Stevie and the guitar. They are one.

[@patrickwhite4151]

A beast of a guitarist. No one can play like Stevie.

[@billc.5861]

Stevie Ray was the real deal, He came onto the music seem with a thunderous slap of bluesy rock that was so needed. He was and still is considered one of the best. Heaven has a hell of a band up there with Stevie Ray

[@Greg-i9g]

Glad you go to witness his music. His talent was off the charts. There was and is no one like him.

[@785boats]

As an old rocker now, I still feel privileged to have seen them 'live' back in the day. A sensational show.

[@kathyyoung9539]

STEVIE STILL IS THE BEST GUITAR PLAYER ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET❤❤❤❤ AND ALWAY'S WILL BE. ❤❤

[@christopherhuot2826]

I saw him twice in the 80's and I was speechless 😅

[@markvanderstelt8999]

i thought that was you at both shows

[@douglasg.9271]

He is at one with his guitar, like nobody I have ever seen or heard.

[@EricSavoie-dm9sw]

SRV wasn't a guitarist, he was a channel in which music flowed freely, he just transposed the vibes he was receiving. What an amazing artist, after the show, it's his guitar that needed a cigarette!

[@stevedahlberg8680]

Thank you brother. And this was a really fun reaction. I'm a lifetime musician myself, but I really enjoyed the dynamic of you being a classical guitar player and just glimpsing what this guy was all about. I was lucky enough to see him three times before he died in the helicopter crash. Down to earth, mind-blowing, self-effacing, humble, but a total badass. I'm so glad you shouted out the rest of the trio because his Double Trouble Man was not only fantastic at holding down the beat while he did all this crazy stuff, they were friends and they were super tight and you can hear it. I really loved the reaction.

[@jonathanberlinsky9952]

Stevie was an open conduit. Music flowed from his hands like water

[@starrroberts-n9h]

There are Many awesome guitar players, But Stevie Ray is the GOAT in my book anyway, I enjoyed your reaction to this, God Bless

[@fukkar4545]

I always struggle with Stevie and Hendrix as the goat...SRV mastered Jimmy's style but Jimmy was a pioneer,SRV had almost 10yrs more life to perfect his playing,what would we have seen of Jimmy with more years under his belt perfecting his craft??😒 BUT Stevie Ray's unrelenting flow pushes him over the top imo 🤙

[@starrroberts-n9h]

@@fukkar4545 Jimmy would be 81 years old today if he had lived, today is his Birthday from what I understand, He was Awesome, I had his music among the music I listen to since my youth, when it was all coming out back in the day, and still listen too today. God Bless.

[@leonplynn]

Possessed by the guitar gods. Amen. First time in Toronto I walked up to the El Mocambo and just pressed myself against it, in case any of that energy was still bouncing around in there. I'll always regret never seeing him in person.

[@kathleenkarsten156]

I love watching you watching Stevie Ray! Your face was priceless! ❤❤❤

[@nancy9891]

I used to think there was another guitarist playing in addition to the drums and base. It was only him! Unbelievable but when one watches him it is undeniable! He is fun to watch in every video he does! He loved Hendrix and does justice to him.

[@TheBlaster54]

The Man. The Legend.

[@RussellSpivey-b8n]

You should hear him play pride and joy

[@PacificSword]

I want to thank whoever captured this incredible performance.

[@haroldbrown6630]

I have watched half a dozen of these reaction videos of SRV. This is the best one.

[@Madmaxx0829]

Yeah…let there be no doubt…SRV was…and still is…the baddest MF’er to EVER play a guitar…. Simply unbelievable….

[@silgen]

SRV is the GOAT.

[@robertorozco2951]

he is possessed by the heart and soul of southern rock passion frozen in time for all eternity.

[@ryanr5319]

So true, a conduit for music. Just comes out. Tasty as all get out. Ty for reaction! He was one of a kind. I mean, my god, his phrasing is unbelievable. Similar to Knopfler in the phrasing respect. Never lost on where to go, he can make it do whatever he wants. 😂

[@bobwallace1880]

77 year old man from Austin. Lucky enough to see Stevie and Jimmy many times. Look for the youtube where Jimmy bends over behind Stevie and they play together on two necks. Its impossible but they do it. After watching them I wanted to throw my guitars away. His sound check alone would be worth the price of admission. Taken to soon. Whenever we have guests come see us they want to see the State Capitol, The University of Austin and Stevie's statue on Town Lake. Good post Keep it up !!

[@michaelfox1432]

IMHO this is the greatest guitar performance all time.

[@roy_8693]

It always seemed to me like he never really "played" the guitar but he just let the music inside him flow from his soul through his fingers to the strings and out the amps. RIP SRV

[@susanstein6604]

Texas Flood was written in 1958. It was around three minutes long. The rest is Stevie Ray’s improvisation. There is a whole concert on KZbin of Stevie Ray playing various acoustic guitars called MTv Unplugged -Stevie Ray Vaughan.

[@bluesrock1]

Stevie has excellent smooth jazz chops on guitar too. Check out 'Riviera Paradise' from the Austin City Limits show.

[@LaserRanger15]

Mentioned that too

[@2Alpha2Go]

Thank you for your raw reaction! You've just been exposed to the G.O.A.T playing that rockin southern music.... SRV IS Power! Thank you!

[@JayLandon64]

Finest use of a guitar I have heard in my 59 years.

[@zaphods2ndhead193]

Stevie was, in my opinion, the greatest blues guitarist ever. He became friends with and learned from those he admired. He developed his own style and took it to a higher level than anyone before or since. He did one thing but did it better than anyone. His passing was a loss.

[@blockhousebay2]

Crazy Stevie fact, the guy used .013 gauge guitar strings! Playing like he did with that gauge is mindblowing...........makes my fingers hurt just thinking about it.

[@donaldwillis2267]

Only he could make a guitar run it's mouth like that.

[@rhodasimmons1644]

I got to see him in person twice. Once as a surprise walk in at a bar in Austin, TX and once in concert in Dallas. All I can say is I feel special and lucky to have received a little part of his soul. That is how he played. As if he were allowing every ounce of his soul to pour from him through his music for those in his presence to take into themselves. It was almost spiritual gift he offered up. RIP my fellow Texan. We miss you so much. Sending love to you.

[@iandobbs7823]

So glad I stumbled upon your first SRV experience. We lost a piece of humanity when we lost him, the goat.

[@i_y_q_2]

This El Mocambo show in Toronto was amazing. Ive had the dvd for years!

[@georgestevens1502]

I found my copy of the El Macombo DVD over a decade ago outside the garbage room on my floor in my apartment building. Somebody was moving out and apparently didn't want to keep it. It is in perfect condition. I'm never deserting Stevie Ray.

[@jamietfranklin]

I love your reaction. We are feel the same way. #SRVForever

[@jamietfranklin]

try an upbeat Stevie Ray like Scuttle Buttin' or Wham!

[@garystover7129]

I'm from the Dallas as was Stevie Ray. I had the pleasure of seeing him in Dallas as well as Austin. I lived in Austin from the late '60s' to mid/late '70's. And saw him a number of times. Those concerts could get rowdy. I loved it all. When I saw Stevie when he was a nobody I knew he was going to he a smash some day. And he was. I was stunned to hear of his death. I actually cried when I heard of his death and was in a funk for quite a while. I was almost as heartbroken for his death as I was of Jimi's Great musician who always worked his ass off. And he used 13 gauge strings on his Stratocaster. There're usually used on an acoustic Dreadnaught for flat picking. I put 13 gauge strings on my Les Paul just to try it out. After a few minutes my fingers were killing me. And it was off with the 13's and back to the 9's. That he could make those amazing bends with those heavy strings was awesome. Well, guess that's it for me. RIP, Stevie Ray and Jimi. I'd like to think they're together and playing things we've never heard of and thought were impossible.

[@hpb5495]

Was at the Rome Inn the night Stevie got married between sets. Rowdy, yeah, lol.

[@garystover7129]

I wasn't there but thanks for that story.@@hpb5495

[@orlandoprouty7962]

Greatest live performance of All Time!!!!!!!

[@elliemay-y4l]

It's his heart that you're hearing. Stevie was a good man.

[@tombrown5924]

I was a 17 year old teenager from Buffalo NY at that show in Toronto. A life long fan ever since.

[@matthewsmith-k1z]

Man could bend them like nobody else! The best ever in my opinion.

[@leisastalnaker3790]

Awwwwww Stevie…..miss you

[@fishad09]

It never gets old watching yall exsperiance srv for the first time ..I relive it through yall..I love seeing yall love stevie r.i.p stevie

[@heartwork8318]

Nice reaction! I hate I never got to see him live! RIP Stevie🙏🏼

[@mtbrewfalling9442]

It’s one of his top performances. Powerful is the word for sure. He played like his life depended on it.

[@trickedouttech321]

The goat without question. There are many greats even the best of the greats but only one GOAT that is SRV

[@jomojojo6603]

God created blues guitar because he knew Stevie Ray would be coming along one day.

[@legendtwo]

You just watched and listened to the GOAT.

[@yoyartube]

In hte 80s and 90s SRV led a blues music revolution all over the world.

[@mattlaw1350]

First time I had seen Stevie was Austin City Limits TV show. I was blown away and went out and got myself a guitar even knowing that I would never be that good.

[@stevebiddell2839]

Glad you sensed/heard how double trouble jacked up the bass/drums, following Stevie's first verse, theyre amazing!

[@shutemdwn]

I appreciate that you didn't stop the music every min like other people and saved your comments till the end.

[@MuddyPoppins]

Ive watched nearly a thousand reactions to this performance. Sometimes I just sit and cry as I watch the new viewers experience go from amazed to when he goes behind his back blown away. It’s maybe one of the most beautiful things to ever share! Thank you ❤

[@piperofsimms]

Mind blowing recordings at the El Mocambo. I'm wiping away tears. Thx Jone. Tucson, Arizona

[@nospam3001]

That performance never gets old.

[@gaylestorm24]

I met Stevie Ray Vaughan (pronounced vawn) in Jacksonville, Florida 1983/84 at Playground South setting up for the concert. Such an amazing person & terrible loss