1k Clear Coat, Compared With 2k The Meiji Finer Spot 1.2 & Upol 2085

My ramblings on the using Upol 2085 1k clearcoat with the Meiji Finer Spot 1.2,, a great gun at still relatively cheap money, low overspray and a good finish at relatively low pressure, hope you enjoy the video, cheers everyone, thanks for watching 👍
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[@JohnWD40TC02]

Hi Pete, very interesting video mate and I liked that you left it 10 weeks to show how it held up over time👍 The Upol 1k was the first clearcoat I used as I started out using black enamel paint through a £10 spray gun but that was horrible stuff to spray so I changed to cellulose which was better then I got some 1K clear to put over the celly which worked quite well but as you mentioned it's harder to spray than 2k clear. One thing that did surprise me was the gloss level from the 1k was amazing, even the next day it was still as good as the 2k then in the 10 weeks later part it was as you said slightly better than the 2k it's just a shame that the 1k isn't very durable🤔 thanks Pete👍

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi John, It was a surprised to me as well. It looked better than the 2k after the 10 weeks, I've used it before, so I know it holds up well for a 1k but never side by side like this. Hopefully, the video shows that if you're willing to put up with the shortfalls, then it is viable to use this stuff if people feel uncomfortable about the 2k stuff. Cheers, mate 👍

[@mikewalde143]

Informative video, thanks Pete I’ve been using U-POL 2085 1k clear for some time and I really like it. It does take a bit of getting used to, but as you’ve show it can produce great results. My projects are not automotive, so I don’t have to worry about fuel or oil spills and it’s good to be using something a bit less harmful

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Mike, and thank you. It's a good general purpose clear coat, but there was little on KZbin about it, so I thought it would be good to do a video, hopefully people can see the benefits and drawbacks, as you say, far safer for people to use, cheers 👍

[@stevejohn5624]

Just the job,will definately try the 1k,cheers again great job as always.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thanks Steve 👍

[@user-sw8sf3pe8g]

Thanks mate really informative. Ordered my upol 1k and will see how I get one. Thanks again ❤❤

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Rob, I'm sure you'll be fine, don't be afraid to put it on, but do try and do it in warmer weather or warm the work and clear up just before spraying. Compared to 2k, it's quite thin, so overdoing it when it cooler will cause runs, not the end of the world, but they can be avoided. I'd be interested to know how you get on, cheers 👍

[@satamanschmidt3428]

Pete, if you're trying to save a buck on a paint job it's common practice over here to spray the undersides of hoods and trunks (I think you call them boots) with 1K and do the outside of the car with 2K clear. Here in Arizona 1K hasn't got a chance on a hood, roof or trunk with our high UV. In the UK with your terrible weather it should last for decades.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Sataman, You've heard about our weather then 🤣😂, over here this upol 1k is effectively more expensive than there 2k taking into account you get 50% more from a 2k kit. You're right about the terminologies. Your hood's are our bonnets, and your trunks are our boots. Cheers, buddy, hope alls well 👍

[@Cavalier_Steve]

Hi Pete, I have been looking forward to watching this one! I have been intrigued by the 1K but never bought any due to the worry of the resilience of fuel and oil, I know now I no needed to worry about the oil aspect of the 1K. I’m really impressed that you done the experiment with the fuel and again I found it more resilient than I expected. Before you even said anything about you going slow I noticed that you went much slower than you normally would with the 2K I’m actually very impressed with the finish you got and I think I would like to have ago and 1K and see what finish I can achieve from it. I love that you do what I do before putting any material in the pot and that’s flushing the gun out with thinners, I do this every time before use and after I’ve finished cleaning the gun out which I know is a bit excessive but it makes me feel at ease that I have done a proper job and keeping them in the best condition possible. Thanks very much for this one Pete! Really enjoyed this video! Cheers.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Steve, to be perfectly, honest, it surprised me, I hadn't used it for a few years, I'm still on the 5lt tin I bought to do some alarm boxes 6 years ago so don't get much practise with it. It's very thin straight out the tin, so definitely no thinners are needed here 🙂, I knew to get a really glossy finish I would need to really put it on hence the speed, the Meiji is a firey little gun so I wasn't expecting to go that slow but you obviously react to what your see unfold. Again, being honest, it looked better than the 2080 tank in purple after the 10 weeks, which really surprised me, I've seen other comparisons on KZbin and the finish they get was definitely lacking on the 1k version but not in this case, certainly worth having a tin around as it keeps for years, obviously doesn't go off in the pot so no time constraints etc Cheers Steve, thanks for watching mate 👍

[@daveaustin69]

Thanks for the research. I use the 2085 clearcoat daily in our mobile wheel repair business in NC, USA. It’s all you say it is, and it has a UV resistant additive in it too. Unfortunately here in the USA this product is no longer available except in aerosol, which is difficult to use. Is it still available in your country? I’m looking for alternatives now as I am running low.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi mate, Yes, it's still available in the UK. The only difficulty you may find is shipping, as it is a flammable liquid, so CAA and FAA restrict its movement on aircraft

[@k_s.m]

Could be nice to see not only the look differences but also the scratch resistance of both paints..

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, they are very much the same. Both can be polished if scratched. The biggest drawback with 1k is normally lower resistance to UV and solvents. It's also often said the 1k loses it gloss quickly, which isn't necessarily true

[@k_s.m]

@@peteshobbies5383 thanks!

[@peteshobbies5383]

@k_s.m Your welcome, buddy 👍

[@jamesmarques7245]

Spray gun sprays really well, I like the fan pattern.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi James, they are great little gun and not that expensive compared to some 👍

[@deanbrown7643]

Hi pete1k was made for a purpose and it's perfectly fine for those purposes thanks mate I've found they both look the same when finished 😊😊

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Dean, It came out really well. It's not recommended for a fuel tank I must say, but it, as you say, has its uses, cheers mate 👍

[@Jbpipesandmufflers]

I would use a quality mask anyway. 1k or 2k. This stuff is bad. 1k clear. Yeah. There many uses. I did multiple bumpers and intereior parts with 1k. And even with normal rattle cans you can get a realy realy good finish. Yeah. 2k is stronger. More chemicle resistant. But there many cases where 1k is sufficiant. For example it can be used as intermediate layer between base collor and airbrush work.

[@peteshobbies5383]

@Jeffrey Bres Hi Jeffrey, I think I said in the video I originally got this 5lt tin to do some plastic alarm bell boxes, 6 years later, I'm told they are still looking good, as you say, there are uses for it, cheers 👍

[@bryankelley6687]

Pretty work Sir, I was surprised by how slow you were moving, guessing that was the gun, even though the 1k is thinner. Was watching the material lay down, took a bit, but layed down well. If you used a full size gun, with a 1.2, would you have had an issue with runs?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Bryan, This little gun actually puts out a fair amount of material for its size. Obviously, I was looking for the flattest finish possible, so slowing down allows more material to hit the work. This allows the clear to flow out more and give a smother surface. This is where you can go wrong as over application can cause runs, saging, and possible solvent pop, the latter being less of a concern as the temperatures gets higher. It's perfectly possible to use a 1.2, 1.3 or 1.4 full size gun and not get runs, still with the fluid on full you could and would move faster, so the finish would be the same but take 40% less time

[@ANDY-we7mr]

Cracking video and what a lovely finish pete is there any difference between the 2 clear coats

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Andrew, Do you mean the two in the video? , if so, yes, the purple tank was with Upol 2080, which is a 2k clear coat, and the orange one is Upol 2085, which is a 1k clear coat

[@cowboyjabs9538]

Another great video..I use 1k from time to time and yes watch for runs lol . They'll sneak up on you 😂

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thanks, buddy, much appreciated 👍

[@silver750iL]

Wonder how much extra protection you get with "ceramic coating" as in car detailing paint protectors.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Mate, good question, I'm not sure, I suspect it will offer so but not much

[@mreightytwenty8709]

Very good mate....Hope all is well

[@peteshobbies5383]

Cheers, buddy, alls good here, thanks. I hope you're keeping busy over there and the winter is not too bad 👍

[@tonymontana897]

I think if you are going to the trouble of prepping and painting anything, you should use the most robust and best quality paint there is. 2K, for me, is a no brainer, especially for motorcycle tanks. Interesting comparison nonetheless. Thanks !

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Tony, Yes, I agree, It's was often a question people would ask me, so I thought, what better way of demonstrating it than this. I was really surprised at the gloss retention on the 1k tank, it was better after 2 months than the 2k one, they were treated the same, put output in the sun, never polished or anything else, just left as they come off the gun, cheers mate, thanks for watching 👍

[@saifulamri1829]

Salah satu mini gun yang harganya masih terjangkau.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hai Sobat, Memang benar, semprotannya luar biasa dan seperti yang Anda katakan, tidak mahal di zaman sekarang ini 👍

[@vehiclesprayerssociety]

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[@peteshobbies5383]

Thank you, sir 🙏

[@vehiclesprayerssociety]

@peteshobbies5383 you're always most welcome Buddy 💖💪💖

[@Cy-34]

Hi Pete, what mini gun spraying 2k or 1k clear you would recommend for my SIP AIRMATE HURRICANE V215/25 6.5CFM 24LITRE 1.5HP AIR COMPRESSOR. Only for small car parts such a mirrow caps etc. Cheers!

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Andzejus, The Iwata LPH80 or LPH50 would be ideal. This gun as well although it uses a little more air

[@Cy-34]

@@peteshobbies5383 Thanks for recommendation. Also forgot to ask about R-150 with 0.5mm, will do the job?

[@peteshobbies5383]

The R160 uses more air. It's also not as good in the smaller tip sizes as it requires much more pressure , 0.5 is very small, so I would advise 0.6 ir 0.8, preferably, it will spray clear coats better

[@martinmorgan8475]

Hello Pete I think this is the video,. Is that base coat first

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Martin, no, that is actually a sanded base and clear coat, so I'm spraying clear over 2k clear that's been sanded, a flow coat as it's called. It would be the same if it was over a basecoat, though

[@martinmorgan8475]

@@peteshobbies5383 hello. How do you get it to spray so smooth with out even thinning it, do you think the gun you use makes a big difference. Tks

[@peteshobbies5383]

No, it is not just the gun. It's knowing the material you are spraying. It's knowing how much to apply to get a flat surface without sags or runs