Hornady Critical Duty vs Critical Defense! Whats The Difference?

[@somerandombaldguy5296]

As long as they do Critical Damage, I'm okay.

[@imskyhigh4449]

Safe to say...

[@brandonarostegui4057]

🤣

[@josephburlison5067]

Pistols rounds aren't ment to do critical damage, not to say good shot placement will do critical damage. Pistols and Pistol rounds in almost all cases just plug holes because of the difference in energy compared to a rifle round which are ment to do critical damage. Again im not saying a well placed dome or vital organ shot from a Pistol round won't stop someone, but there has been many cases of people getting shot with a Pistol round in the head and even heart and they still fought and lived. I haven't found any decent case of someone getting shot in the head or heart with a rifle round and survived.

[@harleybutler389]

yeah of course. and the other ones they make should defend too. critically.

[@throatpunch4789]

@@josephburlison5067 i dont think you know what critical means...

[@williamfelt6199]

The folks at Hornady came out and did a shoot with us using both types of ammo. The difference between the two, I was told, was the Critical Defense ammo was designed for use out of shorter barrel lengths, (i.e. snub-nose revolvers and the shorter barreled semi-auto pistols). The performance demonstrated in the ballistic gel here was nearly identical to what Hornady put on for us. Nicely done.

[@DickRileyTheConquistador]

So why not print on the box FOR SMALL PISTOLS, so people with mid sized dont waste their money?

[@SaneNoMore]

Brian has it right. Critical Defense was designed for personal defense while Critical Duty was designed to meet FBI standards which included being able to penetrate light cover and still be effective on the target.

[@jaylenfaulks5693]

The critical defense works perfect in my Glock 36. I was having a hard time with the regular flat top hollow points racking but the round profile of the critical defense is better

[@joshmajor8662]

@@tyronejennings7703 NO!!! Lol read the comments and watch the video haha 😂

[@davidpavlich8939]

⁠@brianmouton196Exactly. The Defence round is what you want for your night stand firearm. Less concern about collateral damage from over penetration.

[@peelreg]

Could not find Defense at the store, so bought the Duty. Having watched this test, I am pleased with what I have.

[@chairboi2936]

Weirdly enough, the store I got my Defense from was ONLY selling that specific round in 9MM and no other round. I think I got lucky.

[@Kross8761]

Please be aware the critical duty is designed for a barrel longer than 4 inches! You may get acceptable performance out of a shorter barrel, but it is not designed for or recommended out of a short barrel like many micro carry pistols.

[@directorbeau]

@@Kross8761 a Glock 19 is barely over 4 inches, so you're saying the Duty would be better in that instance?

[@Kross8761]

@@directorbeau slightly better, it gets progressively better as the barrel length (and therefore velocity) increases. The jacket on critical duty is thicker than the critical defense, which helps it deform less when punching through barriers like auto glass, sheet metal, plywood, or drywall, but due to the thicker jacket it need more velocity to expand reliably so a longer barrel is vital. Theoretically it's possible for the rounds to expand perfectly even when fired from a short 3-inch barrel, but I'm not willing to risk my life on maybes and theory.

[@MrSaintfan09]

I get my Hornady ammo from a place call Rogers sporting goods, online shipping and it's fast shipping and a great price, gonna pay less with them than going to a sporting store

[@RimfireAddicted70]

You sure hold a good group! I think this was a very good demonstration of performance as intended of each round in the proper gun. This was easy to follow without any annoying music or excess talk. I wish more testing would follow the simplicity of his video. He was clear with information, great video work and leaves the viewer with all the relevant information needed to form a decision. Well done sir! Subscribed!!!

[@tennessee4003]

Jory Humphreys you should also check out Paul Harrell!

[@Jace8637]

It was a Glock 17, and close up so…

[@Nothingtoya]

Good review, I personally like the critical defense myself.

[@Fudmottin]

I've noticed with a lot of HP ammunition, you get less penetration when you have more velocity. So the G43 with the Critical Defense is right in line with that. The duty round is a tougher bullet, so it doesn't expand as well which is why it is good for barriers.

[@TB-im1ci]

The reason the Critical Defense penetrated farther put of the 43 than the 17 is because it was specifically designed for short barreled guns where the bullet has less velocity and power than out of say a 5 inch barrel. So it is designed to open easier for the lower speed and power. When you shoot it out of a full size the bullet is traveling slightly faster and therefore has more force so it expands just a split second earlier. But you see what happens with the lighter, thinner non bonded jacket thru barriers. Those 2 shots show exactly how much science and time went into developing each of them for their specific task.

[@cctrans29]

I carry the HST 45ACP 230 +P+ death ray. Best defensive 45 ammo I have ever shot. I use it in my USP45 compact and my Colt 1911. A little hesitant on the Colt because of the frame on my 50 year old pistol. This is a hot round. That's my experience.

[@nortizz]

Phenomenal man, you seriously do such an incredible job with these videos. Outstanding shot placement, perfect different examples of real world use. Us viewers honestly appreciate you. I make to sure to let every ad on your videos run through completely lol great stuff 😎👍🏼

[@quiksilvr90]

Thank you for doing this video. I didn't really know the difference between the two, but I carry critical duty in my Walther P99. I certainly worry about over-penetration, so I'll be reevaluating my EDC ammo

[@timscoviac]

I agree with you. I like the critical defense more because it expands more than the duty. Slightly bigger wound channel and less penetration

[@tonij9089]

​@@timscoviacDuty expands more?

[@captainbuck5969]

Either way, you’re going to the emergency room.

[@reese810h]

Facts💯💁‍♂️😂

[@HarryANuis-vc1hv]

Dude, once again, couldn’t ask for a better video testing these two types of ammo! You did exactly what I wanted to see the Duty through a full size and micro & the Defense through a full size and a micro. I also really wanted to see what they did through barriers just out of curiosity. Awesome awesome test…just like the Speer Gold Dot & G2! Please keep these test coming!

[@zacotis2550]

Hard to find 2nd gen eclipse door with the manual crank windows and you’re shooting it 😂 I love it

[@nelsonjackson5718]

That's why they're hard to find lmao everyone keeps shooting them

[@machinis]

I really miss my GS-T. Wish I could get my hands on a GSX, but they were impossible to find.

[@lilkamabeast]

machinis come to California or Nevada. But be ready to pay 15k-20k

[@MartyB618]

Fantastic demonstration of the difference between these two rounds. I carry both between my g17 and my g26 so this video is perfect for such a comparison. Keep up the great content!

[@enigmathegrayman2953]

The critical defense did exactly what I hoped it would do with a Glock 43, thanks for this video 👍🏾

[@ambitousresolve1179]

Love he Glock 43, the best glock

[@KaykayStraps]

@@ambitousresolve1179 no the Glock 19x is 💯

[@scottdegregoris7987]

They were out of the Critical Defense today--which I usually carry--so I bought a couple of boxes of Critical Duty...much obliged for the straight forward and insightful video friend.

[@wde1978]

Great comparison. Thank you for taking the time to put together these videos, as I am sure that it's alot more work than what we actually see.

[@pedrowhack-a-mole6786]

Nice comparison. It gives you an idea of what they can do. I carry 135 grain +P Critical Duty in my full size pistols and 124 grain +P Gold Dot Short Barrel in my compacts.

[@chrisgunsandguitars1403]

Hornady reps have summarized the difference quite simply. Critical Defense for indoor/home use (less likely to over penetrate), and Critical Duty for outside/concealed carry use.

[@sanjuaneropr]

I prefer to carry either of those two rounds depending on the circumstance. Excellent demonstration and thank you for the great review.

[@leonardpiskacsr.7111]

Got these in my Hi Point JHP 45ACP for home defense after seeing this ....I made the right choice...I will be sleeping Better at night knowing this ammo is awsome ...I went to my LGS looking for Critical defense Ammo and this is all they had...much better then the FMJ ball I had to use during shortage...thanks for a great Video!😀❤

[@lifeinperspective5327]

Great test. Thank you! Personally, I prefer the CDef. The over penetration of the Duty is too dangerous for bystanders and neighbors.

[@OutdoorShellback]

I'd assume for my intended application that the Critical Defense would be a better fit for home defense as I'd rather not be sending rounds through the walls terribly far and hit unintended targets. I figure even with less penetration in the blocks that it's more than adequate for use on a human torso. Thanks for the info!

[@MichaelT3737]

Great review, I use the critical defense, always has performed well. Interesting seeing the distance after exiting the door, didn't expect it to travel as far as it did... since someone was mowing tell them to help you out. Keep up the good work & still waiting on the CZ & Mossberg Shockwave lol..

[@brandonb8543]

First video i have watched of yours great job. Good video and sound quality.

[@louishuelsman666]

Yes glad to c you did this can’t wait for the info you give us!!

[@frankcostello9523]

When I used to carry my ruger 1911, I always kept it loaded with .45 critical defense. Great self defense round. Penetration of an fmj with the expansion of a hollow point. Can’t beat it in my opinion. Now I carry a ruger security 9 with the 9mm critical defense.

[@abcdaw22]

All ruger products are TRASH

[@boomerisadog3899]

@@abcdaw22 I'm not a Ruger fan but they make some decent guns at their price point. The American Predator bolt action is pretty good, as is the 10-22, and the Security 9 isn't bad, for it's price point. The Mini-30 is junk and I don't care for the Mini-14 either but it does function decent enough. I don't own anything by Ruger but I've shot plenty of them,and the only one I'd call junk is the Mini-30.

[@TheyCallMeMrPerfecto]

That’s also what I keep in my Security 9. Great minds think alike

[@matterbob5x]

Ruger makes fabulous revolvers.

[@seancssu]

230gr hardball only 💀 without it a 1911 doesn’t cycle correctly, premature wear and FTF

[@fernandorodrigues6594]

The comparison between ammunition was objectively demonstrated and the result, as seen, excellent! congratulations! Rodrigues Police - Brazil

[@biggamertelevision4054]

Man.. His aim is amazing! 👍🏾

[@PatCasey-c7e]

I wanted to compliment you on your presentation of the material and assessment of the various types of ammo that you test. You are quite thorough in providing excellent details and commentary on the testing that you do. My compliments to you, sir. Thank you again for the truly professional manner in which you present the test results. Patrick (Pat) Casey

[@michaelrobertson5207]

Good brief, informative, video. More of a difference between the two ammo types than expected. I carry the G26 Critical Defense every day. Understand more about what these rounds can do with this info. Hopefully we never need to send these downrange .

[@markgoostree6334]

I always hope to only shoot this ammo for the "once -a-year" change of my carry ammo. It was good to see how these rounds perform.

[@JimyP9]

CDuty had outstanding performance through the car door in the G17.

[@vladorlovsky6623]

Started looking into both rounds. Great video. Very informative. Thank you.

[@СеменВолков-э7и]

Hello from Russia, we love your channel!

[@PointWithin]

Just came back from the range after testing out critical defense in my p365. This is my new carry ammo. I had no issues putting shits right on target 🎯 and follow ups were right on the mark

[@mikep8986]

Thank you. I was able to score some critical defense online at 3am lol. Glad I watched and confirmed the right choice for my FN503. Accurate at the range but saving it for that rainy day I hope never comes.

[@rexoliver7780]

Oh yes-excellent video with no distractions!

[@hopsyn]

Hornady puts out a great video on these and will also explain more I depth into the design of these bullets

[@FeyPaz]

This is a great video. Thanks, as you said we need to be extremely aware of our backstop and over-penetration.

[@NawfDallas03]

Thank you so much. Been looking for a video that showed hollow 9mm through a car door into ballistic gel. Especially with a comparison between the ammo I have and what I was thinking of going to

[@supermodes]

Critical defense is meant to easily expand after going through clothing or hitting something soft before hitting tissue. Critical duty is meant to expand after first going through something hard such as a window or drywall... Things law enforcement may find themselves shooting through. For home defense or most situations any of us might find ourselves in, critical defense is going to be the better choice. Neither is a wrong choice. But for those of us who like to know the difference between similar products, that's it. Defense for shooting at a target with nothing between you and it. Duty for shooting at a target that may or may not be behind something.

[@KennyP.Gemstone]

Like a windshield?

[@imskyhigh4449]

Perfect video bro....showed me which bullet I want and exactly why I would want it... without all the unnecessary talking and jokes...no shade thrown to other video makers.

[@BraxSol]

Absolutely perfect line up of shots

[@Papaw58]

Wow, Great Shot Placement !!!!!!! No Wonder You're Called 1Shot. Lol....Great video as always. Thank you.

[@cobweb930]

THANKS A BUNCH FOR THE VIDEO IVE ALWAYS WONDERED!!!

[@MattyDemello]

wow that's really impressive seeing the Critical Duty go through the car door AND almost out of the gel block. wow. Nice round.

[@buckdown1658]

Thanks for making that video man, that was interesting and educational. Not to mention I own both those guns, so it personally helped me

[@eddiearchuleta615]

Awesome I’m looking forward to part 2 lol 135+p critical duty 124+p hst 124+p gold dot!!!!!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I love hst and gold Dot

[@bostcustommusicwriting]

@Emmanuel Goldstein it's 9mm... not enough difference in recoil to make a difference.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

@Emmanuel Goldstein that doesn't even make sense. If you're going to be a troll, at least show some intelligence

[@eddiearchuleta615]

What new tech rip rounds

[@eddiearchuleta615]

It’s ok guys he uses RIP rounds I bet

[@quintoncarter1320]

Love the critical duty! Carry it in .40 S&W!

[@briangirard4777]

This is a great video. Im definatly a new fan

[@1ShotTV]

Brian Girard Thank you

[@robison87]

I am really into this stuff but in the grand scheme of things they will all do the job with good shot placement. I carry, but the likelihood that I will ever have to use it is slim to none. It comes down to splitting hairs in reality, but i enjoy these videos!!!

[@PatCasey-c7e]

I’m more of a fan of the Critical Duty 135 grain +P 9mm. Keep up the excellent work on your presentations!

[@jw-sigp2258]

As usual hornaday critical defense 9mm performed awesome from carry size 9 as it was designed to do. I actually like that 124 grain critical duty better than the 135 grain. The results I’ve seen in the past with 135 grain critical duty through car doors into gel aren’t much more damage than just using a hard cast or fmj round nose flat point 9mm. Great job job this video.

[@justinv3080]

I won't knock anyone for carrying either but critical defense doesn't penetrate enough for me and critical duty trades off too much wound potential from expansion in favor of the high antimony lead core that does do well against barriers. 124 HST in my micros and 124+p gold dots in my full size.

[@bigsean2473]

@@nelsonr1467 i use fenix ammo the load with gold dots mostly and there loads are rather warm. pratice ammo is 11 for 9mm 115 1150 for 124gr and 14 for 180gr 40s/w

[@MrMarrok657]

the critical defense beat the fbi testing minimum by about 2 inches, thats more than enough. but at the same time we don’t defend ourselves from gel.

[@MrMarrok657]

and as he said the gel isnt fbi specs so that kind of kills the testing

[@panzos285]

I wish you had a chronograph I'm curious to see what it does out of the Glock 17 the critical duty 124 + P that's the 1 I'm taking about great video again

[@jakeizlove]

Thank you for the content!

[@travisk5589]

This is by far the best gun channel on KZbin. I wish you would make more videos.

[@MPGunther1]

Enjoyed the show-n-tell

[@mychaelpierce8049]

Great job with this. Thanks for sharing!

[@sararet5]

Thank u for sharing. I learned so much already. I just bout a sig P365 XL and I love it.

[@ms.mystique4388]

Bought a couple boxes of 135gr critical duty & im very pleased with my purchase

[@markthrower224]

Really nice demonstration... Excellent production quality

[@MarcMoore]

I never really cared what self defence ammo I used until I went to NRA19 Indy and talked to the Hornady guys and they sold me on their ammo now I only use Hornady Critical Duty 135 grain ammo in my EDC.

[@ctomlevy]

Good video man, very informative and helpful

[@ayandadlamini7838]

Great video once again I like the critical defense due to its good mushroom effect

[@PETERRAY1515]

How ironic of KZbin algorithms to suggest this video to current firearm enthusiast and to all the new firearm purchasers of the recent weeks due to this pandemic the US is in. I sell firearms and am constantly suggesting these two defense rounds. I knew the Duty was a hot round, now it just reinforces it more. Thanks for the great referencing tool! #WashYoHands

[@matterbob5x]

Hornady is my favorite brand. They make fabulous hunting rounds.

[@jaywinters2483]

Good job. I think the Critical Dity is a good choice for black bear protection if you have to go with a 9mm.

[@Thepewpewbrothers]

Shot myself in leg with critical defense out of a G19 after passing out from a heat stroke while unloading weapons and it shattered my fibula ( the little leg bone not big one ) did bunch of nerve and muscle damage hit a small artery. After 10 years owning pew pews. 6 weeks recovery and short term disability said we don’t cover self inflicted wounds. Soooo be careful everyone please mistakes can happen. Take care of your self mentally physically and spiritually

[@BSmith135-js1ui]

Excellent video, thank you

[@michaelpage4199]

Great review. I carry the critical duty in my Mossberg MC1sc. Good to see how it does. Thanks

[@thecodenamekendrick]

How are you liking the mc1?

[@gwarrichmond6232]

Ya best hope the gun don't blow up in your face even dry firing it HA ha ha ha ha 😆

[@michaelpage4199]

@@thecodenamekendrick I really love it. This goes with me everywhere I go. They have made its bigger brother the MC2C

[@FindersKeepers88]

Good, Thx. Always wanted to see this

[@luketilley9137]

Sorry, you lost me at block 17 and block 43. Glad you was able to hit the gel from that far!!! I use the 124gr +p American gunners in my CZ Rami and the 124gr +p critical duty in my CZ 75. Thanks man, Awesome video 👍 🙏🇺🇸

[@WettDoggTV]

From my experience Critical Duty is going to penetrate more and expand less.. If a perp breaks in your home and u shoot them with Critical Duty, the bullet may be more likely to go through the perps body, through a wall and hit someone u don't intend.. However if u are trying to shoot someone through a wall or a door, Critical Duty is probably the better choice.. Also barrel length is a factor with all this.. Critical Defense is probably a better choice for a civilian, Critical Duty is probably a better choice for law enforcement.. Im no expert However, this is just information I gathered through testing and speaking with people who would know better than me

[@ASSET0302]

Great video, great knowledge. Also nice to know what I'm carrying.

[@tombaxter2879]

Well organized presentation. Thanks very much.

[@christopherhall5361]

in every test you talk about the wound cavity, expansion and penetration, but there's 1 factor that very few ever mention and that is cavitation. watch the bullets hitting the gel in slow motion, stop the video when you see them impact and pay attention to how much the gel stretches. That's the temporary cavitation and it's the factor that causes the majority of stopping power. in fact you don't want as much penetration as the critical duty is giving you, yes it indicates a more powerful round, but if the bullet exits its target, that's energy that's going to waste and potentially endangering others. bullets that stop inside the target dumps all it's energy into said target and creates that massive cavitation wave, tearing flesh and more important, stopping the target

[@MALICEM12]

Cavitation is important, but as it is called, it's a Temporary wound cavity. The elasticity of the flesh will close it back up with pistol rounds. Sure it's nice, but really that physics stuff doesn't start being really important until you start getting into rifle speeds. Rounds like the 5.56 work almost entirely off of cavitation. Whereas with 9mm, .40, and .45 they work mainly off of just putting big holes into targets. Thus why hollow points are way more important in pistol rounds than in rifles. A simple 5.56 fmj round will be devastating at optimal velocities and swapping it for a soft point doesn't increase its effect a crazy amount because it was never really about the diameter.

[@vahngeo2260]

​@@MALICEM12You are absolutely correct.

[@TheWADodd]

Great comparison, thanks!

[@jacobryburn7861]

I just found your channel, your videos are super informative. Definitely subbing

[@XngGen]

Both of them works for me so it doesnt matter as long placement shot counts and all golden.

[@LastCaress7]

New subscriber. Your channel is cool man. Simple, straight forward and great info. Right on bro. Excited to watch this channel grow. Im sure it will.

[@jackbl64]

Thanks you for these tests .

[@ericshurtz4901]

I swear to God my neighbor was mowing his lawn at 9:30 at night when he said that comment about someone mowing in the background

[@tomasgonzalez2319]

I use the critical defense in my full size canik tp9sfx. Not looking to have any over penetration.

[@jeremyhill4078]

Awesome video! I chuckled when I seen the wound cavities in the table! I like American Eagle 124GR

[@ericwright6319]

I carry Critical Duty in winter time when I need the extra penetration due too thicker clothing. During the warmer months I'll carry the critical defense which is better for less barriers, clothing...

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Great comparison brother awesome video.

[@1ShotTV]

Alaskan Ballistics Thanks man!

[@biga6972]

Bullet placement is crazy on point lol🔥🔥🔥

[@CyberKatt]

many thanks for the vid, great intell

[@HighRoad317]

Excellent content!!! Appreciate the demo.

[@RogersGirl88]

For those of you who didnt know, this guy played Martouf on stargate sg1.

[@Huggybear101]

This was a very informative video.....thank you.

[@SpykeZ0129]

"Critical duty actually went further in the gel through teh door". Ya well, you're also quite a bit closer to the door/gel than you were just the gel. Would be interesting to see the results at the same distance.

[@KendrasEdge757]

SpykeZ0129 and it looks like he didn’t read the tape measure correctly, nor was it set up tight against the block on the first shot. Hard to tell from the angle though, but I think his measurements were incorrect.

[@StillMansa]

After going through a car door. I’m impressed it keeps the jacket.

[@dieselmutt8865]

Would have been interesting to have thrown the XTP in here as well.

[@SushilRam77]

Thank for the video I have both types and I didn’t know there was difference.

[@TravisBon615]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate the grouping on these literary lines up 3 next to each other and one to the top

[@randyarcher1206]

Guaranteed that critical defense hit more Layers within that door like the window regulator were as the duty did a complete pass through with out obstruction!! From a lifelong Automotive tech.......Good review !😎👍🏼

[@squidy4082]

That duty is crazy impressive

[@jaxson1948]

For personal defense, most "experts" prefer Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr.! I personally prefer Federal Premium HST 124 gr. or the 147/150 gr. The Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr is a great choice and I use as well!

[@peelreg]

Thank you. I have some Critical Duty ammo. I tried to buy Crit. Def, but they were sold out. Now I feel like I have the better choice.

[@steveo7767]

WOW thru the car door and almost all the way thru the gel! Nice, I use the Critical Defense.