1ST RACE (TERRIBLE!)

[@harrytiplady7024]

Sorry about the returns. If the birds aren’t ready, don’t feel like you have to send them because of us wanting a video! Do what’s right for you and them. You wouldn’t take a stroll around the park once in the week and then try and run a 10km at the weekend. That’s basically what you’ve asked them to do. I know hawk pressure is a nightmare for you and you’ve got the baby but give them and you time to get fit and try again for the comeback races. All the best mate

[@ManeyPigeons]

100% ive been working them hard now since this, finally getting some loft flying last few days but some epic falcon hits to come! we are racing tomorrow also. But in saying that out whole club didnt have great returns : (

[@harrytiplady7024]

@@ManeyPigeons nice one mate. Keep going and you’ll be rewarded. Reassuring to hear that others had bad returns too. Hopefully some work back. If you can now (kind of) loft fly you can cheat a bit by loft flying first, if all goes well get them in with a bit of v light seed, let them drink and get straight out for a toss. Good way of getting a bit of extra time on the wing without having to take them the distance. Fingers cross for you on the next race mate. All the best.

[@ShaunPluto]

I know you will sort everything out, I believe the birds are of good quality They've showed us in the onelofts so they can do it, fingers crossed for you Maney 💪

[@ShaunPluto]

Atleast you are not quitting

[@brendanpowell6670]

Sorry to hear about the bad race Kurt. I had a feeling this would happen see it happen to many flyers that don’t toss far enough then send to a race and expect them home. They need 2-3 x 50km tosses before the season starts if u want them switched on and in good condition to get a good result. Have a week off racing and get them out to 50 km a couple times then race them

[@robertporter7775]

Hi sorry for your loss can only hope they turn up soon Good luck and a safe return for your brids

[@Patelofts740]

Glad to see she made it back and them young birds are sneaky little snots when it comes to food lol but about to watch your next video now you uave helped me a lot with your videos i greatly appreciate them coming in from 🇺🇸 Ohio 🪽🪽🏆🧬😎

[@traolach9880]

How can you expect 83 and the mealy hen to perform? When you have been pumping youngsters out of them all year.Either they are stock birds or race team,you can't have it both ways.

[@pietswiet1134]

Hope the other birds still come, sometimes they need a dip to come back better. Don’t send em too quick on another one let them recover especially if they return a few days later

[@ShaunPluto]

Hi, Maney, i was checking for an update the entire day. Glad to see you uploaded something. Im following you from your old house already and i enjoy your video's. Last year was my first year racing, i started the season with 23 birds and ended with 16 of which i culled 11 and only kept the best 5 birds. Our first race is 200+km's Our longest race being just under 900km Ive noticed you only do small tosses which i personally think is unfair towards the birds..... You started with 3km tosses multiple times. I understand you cant loft fly, but dont u think it would be better to do longer tosses say 3times a week. Where the birds can have one hour on the wing atleast.. 3x5km is orite to get the birds use to the drillll. But try to get them out to 100km once atleast and then play around at 40km or 50km 2 or 3times a week. I toss my birds as far as our first racepoint which is 200+ kms It's useless to be soft on the birds during tossing just to have a big racing team that you can't even race the entire season with. I would rather race a small team knowing the will come home then to shoot in the dark like this... I'm not am expert but I proved it last year flying 18 races old birds and young birds with only 23 pigeons and flying sprints also every week... I raced 5yb and 5ob and 7sprint brids every week, yes I didn't always have a full team but I tried and I raced every race except one where my birds eyes wasn't nice, some weekends I raced 1 bird per race lol... I didn't toss alot, I jumped from 40km to 180km and lost 17 birds on that toss but I promise you, the 23 birds I had left I could race the entire season with, like I said I ended up with 16. After 18races of which I raced 17 so think about it. Thanx for the content sir

[@ShaunPluto]

The 180km toss I jumped to last year consist of 2mountains the birds have to cross😅it was hectic, but after that toss I was always confident that my birds would come home with every race if something didn't happen to them during the race

[@ShaunPluto]

Cross(fly over)

[@cylvanosmallpigeonloft7612]

I wish our distance was that short. Especially for the young ones 😅

[@Felintrepid]

Color birds are the best :)

[@Jmb905]

I will get better. Getting out further will help but we loft 2/3 of our young birds time last year

[@Mammel248]

Hope the missing ones will come back by tomorrow man!

[@nevilleberghofer6791]

well that is pigeon racing and your birds were definately not ready for the task

[@ManeyPigeons]

i would say that but all our club members had the same returns :(

[@g.satterfield9422]

The birds need more training at a longer distance in the direction they will be coming from it’s not you

[@ManeyPigeons]

i do toss in the direction of the race line just not long distances yet

[@SSHA9442]

I think the birds were on this route a couple of times before specifically 83 and mealy hen so hope they all return.

[@reginaldmolehurst459]

Research by The Raptor Working Group found that only around 7.5% of racing pigeon losses could be attributed to raptors and that straying, and collisions accounted for substantially more losses each year. The research also shows that falcons were implicated in the loss of about 0.7% of the racing pigeon population.

[@richardstocks2278]

That would have to be the worst survey ever conducted..i have been racing pigeons over 30 years .in tasmania.bred 70 bird's each year.to watch falcons.take 25 of those bird's every year.around my loft before I get to race them.not including.rossellas mountain parrot's.they the peregrine.over populated.in tasmania.not only racing pigeons but nature's bird's have demised thru falcons.every day I see . Falcon's and hear them when they have a kill .

[@5161estel]

Hello Mr Molehurst, thats interesting research, thanks for sharing. When they refer to 'losses' do you think they considered not just the few pigeons that are taken, but also the number of birds that are injured and die when a whole group of them are driven into the ground at high speed looking for cover, breaking necks, wings ect. Also there may be some occasions when a group of pigeons get so stirred up and frightened that they just scatter to the four corners of the Earth, never to be seen again. Any thoughts, Cheers.

[@reinhard5840]

I am a pigeon Flyer in Germany. I once Had one flight we're 3 of my pigeons returned from a Race with injuries caused by birds of Prey.

[@dissanayake13sd]

Hopefully you'll get more back ...🤞🤞🤞🤞 Let us know

[@petersymaeys6067]

Why do you select 11 birds and do not race all the birds from the raceteam?

[@kingkongkahn750]

👍🏽👍🏽

[@g.satterfield9422]

It’s only the first race they will be back

[@Rev792]

Hey Kirk or Kurt ? Which episode is the brain washing episode

[@ManeyPigeons]

Ive not made a video about it yet and ots kurt 👍

[@Rev792]

@@ManeyPigeons are you looking to make one? That would be super cool to watch

[@djung958]

Hope everyone will return next day. Come on 83 !

[@Felintrepid]

It seems to me like you wanted to clean the loft by sending all those birds, they do not have the bloodlines that you currently want.

[@nevilleberghofer6791]

sorry but it looks like race season is over

[@ManeyPigeons]

never say never!

[@faridmarounisi1445]

You could loft fly in small groups of 3 and you won't attract the big 🐦 😂❤

[@traolach9880]

Birds are not prepared probably. What's with all the 7 kilometer tosses. Can you not afford petrol to drive 50 kilometers? And stop banging on about falcons. If you can't let them out to fly ,you may as well give up.

[@Racingpigeon50]

To many brainwashing toses

[@ZahleLeb]

Hey man, I don’t think they appreciate you calling them birds, knowing the fact that you never took the time to ask them with they identify themselves as